Who looks closer to being an "average European": Dolph Lundgren or Alex Dimitriatis?

[Tooting Carmen]

Insofar as there is even such a thing as an "average European" look at all, which people here and elsewhere on anthrofora frequently mention but seldom properly define.

Dolph Lundgren
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/die-hard-scenario/images/8/81/DHS-_actor_Dolph_Lundgren.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140821052333

Alex Dimitriatis
http://marrieddivorce.com/uploads/images/Alex%20Dimitriades.jpg

[Ayetooey]

Dolph Lundgren since he could pass in a fair few places where as Alex Dimitriatis couldn't really pass beyond Greece and maybe Sicilly.

[Tooting Carmen]

Dolph Lundgren since he could pass in a fair few places where as Alex Dimitriatis couldn't really pass beyond Greece and maybe Sicilly.

Alex also passes in Iberia, Malta, most if not all of Italy, parts of the Balkans and maybe atypically in parts of France.

[Ayetooey]

Alex also passes in Iberia, Malta, most if not all of Italy, parts of the Balkans and maybe atypically in parts of France.

I'd say he passes in. Malta, Southern Italy/Sicilly (not Central/Northern). Greece. Southern Iberia. I don't see how he passes in any parts of the Balkans outside Greece, he'd doesn't look Albo at all and he'd be Alien in any South Slav nation. All pretty neglible places pop wise, also all on the extreme southern end of European phenotypes.

Dolph could pass in all of Scandanavia, and pretty much all of central/western Europe.

I'd say personally Dolph passes in more places, and represents a better average compared to Alex.

[TheMaestro]

Dolph Lundgren

Pass in Germany, France and Scandinavia

[Tooting Carmen]

I'd say he passes in. Malta, Southern Italy/Sicilly (not Central/Northern). Greece. Southern Iberia. I don't see how he passes in any parts of the Balkans outside Greece, he'd doesn't look Albo at all and he'd be Alien in any South Slav nation. All pretty neglible places pop wise, also all on the extreme southern end of European phenotypes.

Dolph could pass in all of Scandanavia, and pretty much all of central/western Europe.

I'd say personally Dolph passes in more places, and represents a better average compared to Alex.

My instinct also is that Dolph passes in more European countries than does Alex, but still you're really exaggerating if you think that Northern/Central Italians, Albanians and South Slavs cannot look like him at all.

[Newsboy]

Alex Dimitriades can only pass in Southern Europe.

Dolph Lundgren while not the most pan-European phenotype can pass in much of Europe even if atypical.

Verdict: Dolph Lundgren

[FilhoV]

Dolph looks like he had 1 too many

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyone else?

[Cleitus]

The Greek one can pass anywhere in Europe aside from Scandinavian and Baltic countries. Where as Dolph Lundgren looks more distinctly north east european.

[rein]

Dolph Lundgren.

[Tooting Carmen]

Please don't forget to vote.:)

[Cleitus]

Most Europeans don't look like Lundgren at least outside of the Baltic states and scandinavia. If anything in most of Europe such types won't make up more than 10% of the population at most. While Mediterranean types are way more common among Europeans in general.

[Cleitus]

Lundgren looks prototypically Scando-Baltic-North East Slav.

[Tooting Carmen]

Alex Dimitriades can only pass in Southern Europe.

Dolph Lundgren while not the most pan-European phenotype can pass in much of Europe even if atypical.

Verdict: Dolph Lundgren

Which supports my longstanding argument that more Northern Europeans can pass in Southern Europe at least as atypical than the reverse.

[The Blade]

Americans like Rob Morrow or Thomas Gibson would beat them both in this regard.
However, of these two, Lundgren is the one who passes throughout Europe (ancient invader of Northern Paleo type).
The other guy I don't imagine northwards of France (in the west) and Hungary (in the centre). Also, unlike Lundgren, he is unable to pass in Baltic area and North Slavic countries.

[Tooting Carmen]

Americans like Rob Morrow or Thomas Gibson would beat them both in this regard.
However, of these two, Lundgren is the one who passes throughout Europe (ancient invader of Northern Paleo type).
The other guy I don't imagine northwards of France (in the west) and Hungary (in the centre). Also, unlike Lundgren, he is unable to pass in Baltic area and North Slavic countries.

See my response to newsboy. Do you agree?

[Cristiano viejo]

Dolph only passes in Scandinavia, so the other.

[The Blade]

See my response to newsboy. Do you agree?
As I have previously said, in accordance with historical events all Southern areas represent, more or less, melting pots, while the Southern element in Northern societies is definitely insignificant.
So, more Northerners pass in the South but more Southerners look Northern Euro than the opposite.

[Tooting Carmen]

As I have previously said, in accordance with historical events all Southern areas represent, more or less, melting pots, while the Southern element in Northern societies is definitely insignificant.
So, more Northerners pass in the South but more Southerners look Northern Euro than the opposite.

Yes that makes sense, although France and Hungary both have significant Mediterranean/Balkan elements despite not really being in Southern Europe, for example.

[The Blade]

Yes that makes sense, although France and Hungary both have significant Mediterranean/Balkan elements despite not really being in Southern Europe, for example.
Yes but my point was that you can find more Southern Europeans belonging to Northern types than Scandos with Mediterranean or Dinarid look.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes but my point was that you can find more Southern Europeans belonging to Northern types than Scandos with Mediterranean or Dinarid look.

Well of course and it isn't even close. However, if the question were whether more Irish or Welsh people look Med or whether more Sicilians or Andalusians look Nordic, it would probably be relatively close.

[The Blade]

Well of course and it isn't even close. However, if the question were whether more Irish or Welsh people look Med or whether more Sicilians or Andalusians look Nordic, it would probably be relatively close.
Yes, this makes sense.

[Cristiano viejo]

And the proof that Greek is much more average is that Lundgren only passes in Scandinavia (20 millions of people) while Dimitriatis passes in Balkans, Italy, Spain, Portugal etc (much more than 100 millions of people).

[nafz]

I would say 50/50. Dimitriadis can pass in central Europe as atypical including Germany. Just look at the recent atypical German footballers threads that were recently started. BTW, OP post a proper photo of Dimitriadis :

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/H86DPA/alex-dimitriades-ghost-ship-world-premiere-westwood-los-angeles-usa-H86DPA.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

^ looks like Lothard Matthaus.

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Columella]

Neither

[Tooting Carmen]

Neither

Obviously they are two extremes of the European spectrum, but who'd you say is more common in the Continent as a whole?

[Hadouken]

Obviously they are two extremes of the European spectrum, but who'd you say is more common in the Continent as a whole?

how is the greek guy an "extreme" ?

[Caveat Emptor]

Dolph Lundgren easily as he could pass in most European countries without anyone even questioning whether he was from there.

[Tooting Carmen]

how is the greek guy an "extreme" ?

Although not as dark as what some Europeans can get (especially but not exclusively in Mediterranean countries), he is still darker than the norm in most of Europe above the Pyrenees, Alps and Carpathians.

[Cernunnos]

Dolph because most Europeans are from Northern, Eastern and Central Europe where you can find a lot of person with his pigmentation and hair/eye colour.

Only in Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece and perhaps France his looks are rare, but in France his pigmentation is common.

[Cristiano viejo]

Dolph Lundgren easily as he could pass in most European countries without anyone even questioning whether he was from there.
hehe, quite true :D

[Congolese Rice]

obviously yemeniantillean. pfff, what kind of question is this

[Columella]

Obviously they are two extremes of the European spectrum, but who'd you say is more common in the Continent as a whole?
I think you chose one or two wrong examples.
Lundgren has strongly characterised features, I don’t think he is the average Swedish. The other is more anonymous more average s Euro guy.
I cannot give an answer.

[CommonSense]

Dolph Lundgren easily as he could pass in most European countries without anyone even questioning whether he was from there.

I've never seen a single person living in Serbia, regardless of ethnicity, who looks even remotely like him. Everybody would think he's a foreigner. His look is extremely Scandinavian and can't pass anywhere else.

[alnortedelsur]

None of them. More average European would be somebody not that med like Alex Dimitriatis and not that pale and Nordic as Dolph Lundgren.

[Papastratosels26]

Alex dimitriatis

Στάλθηκε από το G3311 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk

[Cristiano viejo]

I've never seen a single person living in Serbia, regardless of ethnicity, who looks even remotely like him. Everybody would think he's a foreigner. His look is extremely Scandinavian and can't pass anywhere else.
He was joking and agreed, he only passes in Scandinavia (20 millions of people) while that Greek (is he Greek, true?) passes in all South Europe Balkans included, even France and UK (hundreds of millions of people).


None of them. More average European would be somebody not that med like Alex Dimitriatis and not that pale and Nordic as Dolph Lundgren.
Dolph Lundgren is not pale. He is Nordic because his obvious Nordic features along his platino hair, but his pigmentation is even dark.

[alnortedelsur]

Dolph Lundgren is not pale. He is Nordic because his obvious Nordic features along his platino hair, but his pigmentation is even dark.

My bad. He is not particularly pale, but he is more Nordic and robust looking than the European average, which is not either that Nordic nor Mediterranean.

[Cristiano viejo]

My bad. He is not particularly pale, but he is more Nordic and robust looking than the European average, which is not either that Nordic nor Mediterranean.

Of course. He is ultra-Nordic and that is precisely why he only passes in Scandinavia, what makes the other guy more average European IMO

[Sikeliot]

I'd say he passes in. Malta, Southern Italy/Sicilly (not Central/Northern). Greece. Southern Iberia. I don't see how he passes in any parts of the Balkans outside Greece, he'd doesn't look Albo at all and he'd be Alien in any South Slav nation. All pretty neglible places pop wise, also all on the extreme southern end of European phenotypes.


He can pass in all of Southern Europe.

[Sikeliot]

Alex Dimitriadis would pass far better in UK or Germany, than would Dolph Lundgren in Sicily or Crete.

Therefore, I think Dimitriadis looks more pan-European.

[Tooting Carmen]

Alex Dimitriadis would pass far better in UK or Germany, than would Dolph Lundgren in Sicily or Crete.

Therefore, I think Dimitriadis looks more pan-European.

Although Dimitriatis would be much more Med-than-average here, I can think of one (sort of) celebrity who looks like him - Josh Patterson from reality TV show Made In Chelsea:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Josh+Patterson+Prince+Trust+Awards+Red+Carpet+w26d jeF7T1Fl.jpghttp://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/05/980x490/landscape-1454674872-tv-josh-patterson-on-good-morning-britain.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Although Dimitriatis would be much more Med-than-average here, I can think of one (sort of) celebrity who looks like him - Josh Patterson from reality TV show Made In Chelsea:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Josh+Patterson+Prince+Trust+Awards+Red+Carpet+w26d jeF7T1Fl.jpghttp://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/05/980x490/landscape-1454674872-tv-josh-patterson-on-good-morning-britain.jpg


But to me, Dimitriadis passes better in Northern Europe than does Lundgren in Southern Europe. I cannot think of anyone in the far south part of Europe who looks like him. Even if they have his coloring, the features will be extremely different....

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Friedrich Ulrich]

All i can say Drago isnt avarage at all:)

[Videx]

Neither both are too distinctive. To me an average European would be somewhere between the two.

[Latinus]

Alex Dimiatris. While he might be Med, I think his type is more common in Central/Northern Europe than Lundgren types outside Scandinavia.

[Immanenz]

Alex Dimiatris. While he might be Med, I think his type is more common in Central/Northern Europe than Lundgren types outside Scandinavia.

agreed. also: Med types like Dimiatris are quite common in the South of Europe, pure, unreduced Cm types like Ludgren are moderately common at best even in their peak zones.

[Dr_Maul]

Taking the title literally, it is clearly Dimiatris because Mediterranean countries have significantly higher populations combined than Nordic ones. Now after doing basic math, the 'average' European is more Med looking

[PaleoEuropean]

Dolph Lundgren

Pass in Germany, France and Scandinavia

Young Dolph Lundgren could pass in Britain, the Baltic, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

[Tooting Carmen]

Bump