Classify atypical Bosniak

[Ayetooey]

Classify this Bosniak woman.

https://joshuaproject.net/assets/media/profiles/photos/p10953.jpg.

[CommonSense]

She is not from Sanjak, but from Sarajevo, though we can't guess where her roots are from. This was among a series of photos one Polish photographer took when visiting that city:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/

But, yes, she looks very West Asian and I'd classify her as Asiatic-Alpine.

[Ayetooey]

She is not from Sanjak, but from Sarajevo, though we can't guess where her roots are from. This was among a series of photos one Polish photographer took when visiting that city:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/

But, yes, she looks very West Asian and I'd classify her as Asiatic-Alpine.

Yeah I literally just realised, the link I was on said Sandzak but it redirected me to a seperate page where it say's Bosnia, her name is Emina. https://www.flickr.com/photos/m1key-me/14204194758/

Still an atypical look either way.

[Gangrel]

She looks Arab

[Moje ime]

arabid

[CommonSense]

Yeah I literally just realised, the link I was on said Sandzak but it redirected me to a seperate page where it say's Bosnia, her name is Emina. https://www.flickr.com/photos/m1key-me/14204194758/

Still an atypical look either way.

'Bosniaks are blonde and white, Serbs look like Turks'. Meanwhile, some of the people from Sarajevo:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_43.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_04.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_15.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_16.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_24.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_38.jpg

[Ayetooey]

'Bosniaks are blonde and white, Serbs look like Turks'. Meanwhile, some of the people from Sarajevo:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_43.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_04.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_15.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_16.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_24.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_38.jpg

Sarajevo was a pretty important hub for the Ottomans and all sorts of peoples became Slavified and assimilated over the centuries so this doesn't shock me. No doubt that there's others like Emina; she's probably Turkish or something by descent. I have seen a lot of blonde Bosniaks but they're probably from smaller towns and villages.

[Moje ime]

'Bosniaks are blonde and white, Serbs look like Turks'. Meanwhile, some of the people from Sarajevo:



Bosniaks are actually either blond or really dark, they don't have pontid phenotype etc.

[Ayetooey]

How do I edit the title btw lol.

(Nvm figured it out).

[Pribislav]

Sarajevo was a pretty important hub for the Ottomans and all sorts of peoples became Slavified and assimilated over the centuries so this doesn't shock me. No doubt that there's others like Emina; she's probably Turkish or something by descent. I have seen a lot of blonde Bosniaks but they're probably from smaller towns and villages.

In Sarajevo and around there is about 150 000 Sanžaklije which settled there after WW2.

In the last few year there is more and more Arabs in Sarajevo.

[rein]

'Bosniaks are blonde and white, Serbs look like Turks'. Meanwhile, some of the people from Sarajevo:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_43.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_04.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_15.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_16.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_24.jpg

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/sarajevo_38.jpg

Those in Hijabs are probably some immigrants from conservative Muslim countries.

[CommonSense]

Sarajevo was a pretty important hub for the Ottomans and all sorts of peoples became Slavified and assimilated over the centuries so this doesn't shock me. No doubt that there's others like Emina; she's probably Turkish or something by descent. I have seen a lot of blonde Bosniaks but they're probably from smaller towns and villages.

Yeah, there's an unexpected amount of diversity over there. If you can read Serbian, some guys from the Serbian DNA Project posted a Bosniak woman's AncestryDNA and gedmatch results. She clusters with Czechs and Slovaks on Eurogenes k36 :O

https://www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=3700.0

[Moje ime]

Sarajevo was a pretty important hub for the Ottomans and all sorts of peoples became Slavified and assimilated over the centuries so this doesn't shock me. No doubt that there's others like Emina; she's probably Turkish or something by descent. I have seen a lot of blonde Bosniaks but they're probably from smaller towns and villages.

Somehow I believe that this woman has something with Mujahedins that are settled in Federacija after 90s war.

[rein]

Somehow I believe that this woman has something with Mujahedins that are settled in Federacija after 90s war.

So some Afghan then?

[Moje ime]

So some Afghan then?

She looks Arab.

[IncelSlayer]

One of the most typical bosniak face, the male counterpart was that of al-bosni.

[Ayetooey]

She looks Arab.

Her names Emina isn't that a slav name?

Not that she's ethnically slavic but that gives me the impression she was born and raised there.

[rein]

One of the most typical bosniak face, the male counterpart was that of al-bosni.

Oh gosh. :lmao

[Ayetooey]

One of the most typical bosniak face, the male counterpart was that of al-bosni.

https://obris.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jihad1.jpg

[Moje ime]

Her names Emina isn't that a slav name?

Not that she's ethnically slavic but that gives me the impression she was born and raised there.

Emina isn't Slavic name. It is common for Bosniaks only.

[rein]

Emina isn't Slavic name. It is common for Bosniaks only.

Interesting

[CommonSense]

You can find some Bosniaks that are unusually swarthy, despite what they claim:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvrzoCzVjYQ

[Kelmendasi]

Emina isn't Slavic name. It is common for Bosniaks only.
It is a name of Arabic origin. It's used by Muslims though mainly in Turkey. In Turkey it's used in the Emine form.

[Moje ime]

Interesting

Bosniaks have names that only they are using, mostly of Arab/Turk origin. Their surnames often ends in ić as most of Serbian/Slavic ones but they are always different of Serbians.

[Pribislav]

Her names Emina isn't that a slav name?

Not that she's ethnically slavic but that gives me the impression she was born and raised there.

Emina is muslim name.

Emina Jahović is Sanžak muslim and she looks like typical Turkish woman to me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emina_Jahović
https://story.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/emina-jahovic-antonio-ahel-ata-images-1.jpg
https://stat.hellomagazin.rs/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Emina-Jahovic.-Photo-Antonio-Ahel-ATAImages-03.jpg

Sanžak muslims often looks Turkish.

[Veneda]

Emina isn't Slavic name. It is common for Bosniaks only.

Is Amina name also popular among Bosniaks? I heard that they use that name too. It is probably of Arabic origin

[rein]

Is Amina name also popular among Bosniaks? I heard that they use that name too. It is probably of Arabic origin

That’s what Wikipedia says. Arab origin. Means honest and trustworthy.

[CommonSense]

Again with the iGenea crap xD

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/a8e86faa-3032-472a-96ab-10973cf35e85.png

[Moje ime]

Is Amina name also popular among Bosniaks? I heard that they use that name too. It is probably of Arabic origin

I'm not sure but I think not. Only Emina variant.

[Tauromachos]

She looks like a Kalash woman with muslim dressing

[Bosniensis]

Again with the iGenea crap xD

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/a8e86faa-3032-472a-96ab-10973cf35e85.png

I2a1 are ancient Balkan populace, Illyrian was an Latin exonym for modern south Slavs

I don’t see why people see iGenea wrong


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[Marmara]

:D They look southern European get used to it, Balkans have no real Turkish admixture, and that particular girl would be gracile-med without Hijab.

[Bosniensis]

:D They look southern European get used to it, Balkans have no real Turkish admixture, and that particular girl would be gracile-med without Hijab.

Neither does Turkey it’s minimal


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[The Blade]

Armenoid-Med.

[Kelmendasi]

:D They look southern European get used to it, Balkans have no real Turkish admixture, and that particular girl would be gracile-med without Hijab.
She definitely doesn't look southern European. She looks middle eastern

[Tauromachos]

It is a name of Arabic origin. It's used by Muslims though mainly in Turkey. In Turkey it's used in the Emine form.

Emina sounds like the Albanian version of this name

[Marmara]

She definitely doesn't look southern European. She looks middle eastern

Every woman would look Middle-Eastern with a Hijab, but even so, many South Europeans do look similar to Middle-Easterners.

[Cleitus]

Apparently there has been minor migration movement from Turks to larger Bosnian city's like tuzla Sarajevo and Mostar.

[Cleitus]

Every woman would look Middle-Eastern with a Hijab, but even so, many South Europeans do look similar to Middle-Easterners.

She could only pass as Roma in the balkans.

[Kelmendasi]

Every woman would look Middle-Eastern with a Hijab, but even so, many South Europeans do look similar to Middle-Easterners.
Come on now, just look at her face. She can't pass as European in general.

[Kelmendasi]

Emina sounds like the Albanian version of this name
I'm pretty sure Albanians use Emine when it comes to this name and not Emina.

[Tauromachos]

I'm pretty sure Albanians use Emine when it comes to this name and not Emina.

Judging by how Albanian sounds they would say Emina not Emine

In Ancient Greek the ending with -a is typical for Doric Greek the ending with -e or -i for Ionnian

[Mingle]

Is Amina name also popular among Bosniaks? I heard that they use that name too. It is probably of Arabic origin

Emina is just a localized version of the Arabic name Amina. The name is related to the [Hebrew-origin] English word amen if we go back far enough.

[Kelmendasi]

Judging by how Albanian sounds they would say Emina not Emine

In Ancient Greek the ending with -a is typical for Doric Greek the ending with -e or -i for Ionnian
Nah, Emina actually sounds pretty weird. I know some Albanians called Emine which is why i'm saying they use Emine.

[Mingle]

Again with the iGenea crap xD

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/a8e86faa-3032-472a-96ab-10973cf35e85.png

What are they saying?

[Kelmendasi]

What are they saying?
They're talking about how Bosniaks are natives and descendants of Illyrians and that based on IGENEA they are a mix of Illyrians and Celts, and how places like Montenegro, Dalmatia, Kosovo etc are parts of Bosnia. Or at least I think they're saying this.

[Moje ime]

What are they saying?

That Bosniaks are oldest in Balkans, before Slavs.

[Cleitus]

Judging by how Albanian sounds they would say Emina not Emine

In Ancient Greek the ending with -a is typical for Doric Greek the ending with -e or -i for Ionnian

No, it's emine not emina. Albanians apparently should know this better than a Greek who doesn't even speak albanian.

[Moje ime]

They're talking about how Bosniaks are natives and descendants of Illyrians and that based on IGENEA they are a mix of Illyrians and Celts, and how places like Montenegro, Dalmatia, Kosovo etc are parts of Bosnia. Or at least I think they're saying this.

You speak Serbian?

[Tauromachos]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263086-Is-Jarcebinka-a-traditional-Chech-or-Polish-drink

[Kelmendasi]

You speak Serbian?
Nah, but I can understand some of it if in Latin alphabet. But I can't read Cyrillic at all

[Mingle]

She doesn't look Turkish at all to me. She looks straight-up Arab.

[Mingle]

She is not from Sanjak, but from Sarajevo, though we can't guess where her roots are from. This was among a series of photos one Polish photographer took when visiting that city:

http://www.m1key.me/photography/sarajevo/

But, yes, she looks very West Asian and I'd classify her as Asiatic-Alpine.

On your link, it says "Thanks to: Amra Rustanović, Nejra Mulaomerović, Emina Al Ismail."

Assuming that's referencing the woman in the OP, her name has no -ović suffix. However, it has an Al that only Arabs use. I'm guessing she used the Bosniak spelling because the Arabic name has no fixed Latin spelling and she decided to adopt the Bosniak spelling as a result of living in Bosnia. The rest of her name is very Arabic anyways.

[Kelmendasi]

On your link, it says "Thanks to: Amra Rustanović, Nejra Mulaomerović, Emina Al Ismail.

Assuming that's referencing the woman in the OP, her name has no -ović suffix. However, it has an Al that only Arabs use. I'm guessing she used the Bosniak spelling because the Arabic name has no fixed Latin spelling and she decided to adopt the Bosniak spelling as a result of living in Bosnia. The rest of her name seems to be Arabic anyways.
She is probably an Arab then imo, I highly doubt Bosniaks use "Al" in their surnames

[Marmara]

Apparently there has been minor migration movement from Turks to larger Bosnian city's like tuzla Sarajevo and Mostar.

There has been Turks all over Balkans who are called Balkan Turks, and look nothing like her. I wonder where do Albanians get their swarthness, nowhere, that's just how they look.

[rein]

She is probably an Arab then imo, I highly doubt Bosniaks use "Al" in their surnames

Probably, just from the hijab alone.

[Moje ime]

On your link, it says "Thanks to: Amra Rustanović, Nejra Mulaomerović, Emina Al Ismail.

Assuming that's referencing the woman in the OP, her name has no -ović suffix. However, it has an Al that only Arabs use. I'm guessing she used the Bosniak spelling because the Arabic name has no fixed Latin spelling and she decided to adopt the Bosniak spelling as a result of living in Bosnia. The rest of her name is very Arabic anyways.

If she is really from Sarajevo and not some tourist, she is probably daughter of some Mujaheding settled in Bosnia after 90s war. 20+ years passed, their children are now grow up.

[MiloshN]

Nah, but I can understand some of it if in Latin alphabet. But I can't read Cyrillic at all

Djesi Kelmendasi brate nas napaceni?

[Jana]

She looks Pakistani or NW Indian with light eyes to me.

[cyberlorian]

Irano Nordoid maybe?

[cyberlorian]

She looks Pakistani or NW Indian with light eyes to me.

Irano Nordoid maybe?

[Ayetooey]

Seems like this thread has served its purpose, she's an Arab probs a daughter of one of the settlers of the 90's. Turk trolls all look really foolish now for describing her as southern Euro looking lmao.

[Ayetooey]

On your link, it says "Thanks to: Amra Rustanović, Nejra Mulaomerović, Emina Al Ismail."

Assuming that's referencing the woman in the OP, her name has no -ović suffix. However, it has an Al that only Arabs use. I'm guessing she used the Bosniak spelling because the Arabic name has no fixed Latin spelling and she decided to adopt the Bosniak spelling as a result of living in Bosnia. The rest of her name is very Arabic anyways.

This was a good catch.

[cyberlorian]

Seems like this thread has served its purpose, she's an Arab probs a daughter of one of the settlers of the 90's. Turk trolls all look really foolish now for describing her as southern Euro looking lmao.

But my guess was Irano Nordoid. :)

[Ayetooey]

But my guess was Irano Nordoid. :)

Fairs was more a reference to the other dude insisting she was native Southern European, we now know she's a straight up Arab lol.

[cyberlorian]

Fairs was more a reference to the other dude insisting she was native Southern European, we now know she's a straight up Arab lol.

Is she Syrian?

[Hadouken]

Irano Nordoid maybe?

retard

[cyberlorian]

retard

Why? :(

[Ayetooey]

Is she Syrian?

Who knows if our theory is right and her parents were mujagideen left overs she could be from any MENA country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_mujahideen

Might be the case she's half Bosniak half Arab or something.

[Hadouken]

Why? :(

because iranian nordoid has nothing to do with south asians

these are iranian nordoids . since when do pakistanis and indians look like that you idiot :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15200&stc=1&d=1315936437

https://abload.de/img/c8acd7ea9b8dd89aa305fmbdn7.jpg

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/fweyl0c8e3zst.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/%C5%9Eivan%C3%AA_%C3%AEsepar.jpg

[Marmara]

Fairs was more a reference to the other dude insisting she was native Southern European, we now know she's a straight up Arab lol.

I was only responding to those who were insisting she was Turkish admixed :)

[Gangrel]

those are arab eyes if ive ever seen them bra

doesnt look iranic/indic whatever

[CommonSense]

What are they saying?

Comment #1: Bosniaks, we are everywhere! Greetings from Prizren!

Comment #2: Bosniaks had been living in Kosovo for thousands of years, until the Slavs came here at the end of the 6th century and chased everyone out and took over everything. The Illyrian people, those are Bosniaks, and that's what iGENEA, which does research into the DNA of the old European nations, confirms. Over 50% of Illyrian genes, 25% Celtic and somewhere around 10% Slavic. The very name Bosnia comes from the Illyrian term Bassanas or Bosona which means land of the rivers or waters. Histria, Dalmatia, Bosnia, Rhizon (Montenegro), Arsa (Sanjak), Dardania (Kosovo), all the way up to Skadar belongs to us. The names of the old towns and rivers confirm that as well. Neretva, NER ETWA, means the holy river. Wake up, Bosniaks, and let's unite our people. For thousands of years we ruled the Balkans and look what they made us into today. BASSANIA


I know it sounds like a parody, but a lot of them buy into that crap, just as many Serbs consider Deretić a serious authority :D

[Ayetooey]

Comment #1: Bosniaks, we are everywhere! Greetings from Prizren!

Comment #2: Bosniaks had been living in Kosovo for thousands of years, until the Slavs came here at the end of the 6th century and chased everyone out and took over everything. The Illyrian people, those are Bosniaks, and that's what iGENEA, which does research into the DNA of the old European nations, confirms. Over 50% of Illyrian genes, 25% Celtic and somewhere around 10% Slavic. The very name Bosnia comes from the Illyrian term Bassanas or Bosona which means land of the rivers or waters. Histria, Dalmatia, Bosnia, Rhizon (Montenegro), Arsa (Sanjak), Dardania (Kosovo), all the way up to Skadar belongs to us. The names of the old towns and rivers confirm that as well. Neretva, NER ETWA, means the holy river. Wake up, Bosniaks, and let's unite our people. For thousands of years we ruled the Balkans and look what they made us into today. BASSANIA


I know it sounds like a parody, but a lot of them buy into that crap, just as many Serbs consider Deretić a serious authority :D

I don't get how some can logically call themselves Illyrians when they plot with Serbs/Croats autosomally share the same haplogroups, either all 3 are Illyrians (which bosnienis for example backs so he's consistent) or all 3 are South slavs (real answer, a mixture of the two).

Ironically Bosniaks are much more slav shifted that Serbs from Serbia, even though most of the time these theories are a reaction to "Slavo Serbs".

[Ayetooey]

There's one twat on Quora who's obsessed with claiming Bosniaks and Bosniaks only are "north Illyrians" say's I2A in Bosniaks is Illyrian but when asked about I2A in Serbs/Croats claims it's Romanian.

[CommonSense]

She is probably an Arab then imo, I highly doubt Bosniaks use "Al" in their surnames

I don't think a pure Arab woman would be so liberal as to help a foreign, male christian tourist around town. It's likely that only her father is an Arab, hence she has a Bosniak first name, and an Arabic last one.

[rein]

I don't think a pure Arab woman would be so liberal as to help a foreign, male christian tourist around town. It's likely that only her father is an Arab, hence she has a Bosniak first name, and an Arabic last one.

It has nothing to do with being liberal. Just basic decency.

[CommonSense]

There's one twat on Quora who's obsessed with claiming Bosniaks and Bosniaks only are "north Illyrians" say's I2A in Bosniaks is Illyrian but when asked about I2A in Serbs/Croats claims it's Romanian.

Is it this clown? They all sound the same to me.

https://www.quora.com/profile/Mustafa-Iliri-Hadzibajri%C4%87

[CommonSense]

It has nothing to do with being liberal. Just basic decency.

Arab women aren't allowed to be with alone with males who aren't part of their family. Just proof that she was raised in Bosnia, mosly likely because her mother is a local muslim woman.

[Ayetooey]

Is it this clown? They all sound the same to me.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Bosnians-descendants-of-the-Illyrians

It's the dude in the top comments, he's everywhere on quora. Try read what he say's without choking.

He also claims in other posts that Sandzakians are pure Bosniaks descending from Bosnia LOL. Pure ultranationalist fruitcake.

[rein]

Arab women aren't allowed to be with alone with males who aren't part of that family. Just proof that she was raised in Bosnia, mosly likely because her mother is a local muslim woman.

Why is she wearing a hijab then if she’s liberal?

[CommonSense]

https://www.quora.com/Are-Bosnians-descendants-of-the-Illyrians

It's the dude in the top comments, he's everywhere on quora. Try read what he say's without choking.

He also claims Sandzakians are pure Bosniaks descendant from Bosnia LOL. Pure ultranationalist fruitcake.

Yeah, that's him. Typical representative of a Bosniak keyboard warrior. I forgot the link, but I edited the comment later.

You shouldn't be surprised that they claim they're the only, true Illyrians, despite all of us clustering so close together, since none of them have ever even heard of autosomal DNA xD

[CommonSense]

Why is she wearing a hijab then if she’s liberal?

No idea, honestly. Hers is a strange case indeed.

What I'm wondering is how ayetooey found her picture in the first place :D

[Ayetooey]

Yeah, that's him. Typical representative of a Bosniak keyboard warrior. I forgot the link, but I edited the comment later.

You shouldn't be surprised that they claim they're the only, true Illyrians, despite all of us clustering so close together, since none of them have ever even heard of autosomal DNA xD

He's amazing tho. I2A IS PURE ILLYRIAN, BUT SERBS WITH I2A ARE ROMANIANS AND VLACHOSLAVS. Makes sense right? He also seems to ignore that Herzegovina Croats are like 70 percent I2A or someshit so by his logic they would be the purest "North Illyrians".

[rein]

No idea, honestly. Hers is a strange case indeed.

What I'm wondering is how ayetooey found her picture in the first place :D

GirlsInHijab.com

[Ayetooey]

GirlsInHijab.com

LOL, might be just me but I actually think the Arab/Bosniak has quite a pretty face :p.

I was looking for a pic of a Sandzakian dude that I saw the other day that I wanted to post for classification and she came up at the top of my search for some reason.

[CommonSense]

He's amazing tho. I2A IS PURE ILLYRIAN, BUT SERBS WITH I2A ARE ROMANIANS AND VLACHOSLAVS. Makes sense right? He also seems to ignore that Herzegovina Croats are like 70 percent I2A or someshit so by his logic they would be the purest "North Illyrians".

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance over there. When it suits his needs, he just starts claiming that the other two ethnicities are simply orthodox and catholic Bosniaks who got assimilated by the evil Serbs and Croats. I've seen many, many similar comments from other Bosniaks and they all include the following: claiming to be the purest descendents of the Illyrians, which was allegedly proven by iGENEA; Bosniaks are white and often blonde people, while Serbs are just Vlachs and Turks - this is followed by posting many cherrypicked photos; the Serbian orthodox church forced the Bosnian Vlachs (or sometimes orthodox Bosniaks) to start declaring as Serbs; Bosniaks suffered countless genocides throught history and have always been the peaceful victims, while Serbs are a dirty, genocidal nation, etc.