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cyberlorian
10-14-2018, 02:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKCVlSO5Pwc

Peterski
10-14-2018, 02:32 PM
Western Prussian is what exactly? Which area?

cyberlorian
10-14-2018, 02:33 PM
Western Prussian is what exactly? Which area?

It is said "MyHeritage DNA results of my grandma. She is a German from Russia and her roots go back to West Prussia. Her ancestors migrated from West Prussia to the Planer colonies near Mariupol, thats why they are also called Black Sea Germans. Pointing out that she is from West Prussia because many other Germans from Russia came from West and South Germany, so their genetic makeup will be different."

Peterski
10-14-2018, 02:36 PM
Germanized Polish obviously.

Do you have GEDmatch kit number?

nittionia
10-14-2018, 02:47 PM
Wonder what their 23andMe/Gedmatch would be like, mine are like the complete opposite.

Peterski
10-14-2018, 03:06 PM
Wonder what their 23andMe/Gedmatch would be like

Yeah I wonder how would dots/stars look like in 23andMe.

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 03:08 PM
Her family must of gotten assimilated by Slavs but kept there Germanic culture, or she was just a germanised Slav.

Myheritage is notoriously bad tho, it gave me a result which is genetically impossible. She should do 23andme.

Peterski
10-14-2018, 03:14 PM
Her family must of gotten assimilated by Slavs but kept there Germanic culture

You mean the other way around, her ancestors were apparently culturally Germanized Polish people.

cyberlorian
10-14-2018, 04:59 PM
Her family must of gotten assimilated by Slavs but kept there Germanic culture, or she was just a germanised Slav.

Myheritage is notoriously bad tho, it gave me a result which is genetically impossible. She should do 23andme.

Did you mean? "Her family must of gotten assimilated by Germans."

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 05:18 PM
Did you mean? "Her family must of gotten assimilated by Germans."

Could of been either way. Her family might of originally been German, but kept on mixing with Slavs, whilst keeping their German culture. A bit like how in Turkey you have Bosniak Turks who look Turkish, there ancestors probably came from Bosnia but kept on mixing with local Turks whilst keeping their identity through the ages,

cyberlorian
10-14-2018, 06:36 PM
Could of been either way. Her family might of originally been German, but kept on mixing with Slavs, whilst keeping their German culture. A bit like how in Turkey you have Bosniak Turks who look Turkish, there ancestors probably came from Bosnia but kept on mixing with local Turks whilst keeping their identity through the ages,

But in that case it is not called as assimilation but called as interbreeding, as far as I know.

cyberlorian
10-14-2018, 06:40 PM
Could of been either way. Her family might of originally been German, but kept on mixing with Slavs, whilst keeping their German culture. A bit like how in Turkey you have Bosniak Turks who look Turkish, there ancestors probably came from Bosnia but kept on mixing with local Turks whilst keeping their identity through the ages,

In the video, I also think the same as Peterski. The woman might be Germanicised Polish. Because, zero percent Western Europe seemed very atypical for an ethnic German, in my opinion.

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 06:41 PM
In the video, I also think the same as Peterski. The woman might be Germanicised Polish. Because, zero percent Western Europe seemed very atypical for an ethnic German, in my opinion.

Yeah you're probably right. If her ancestors had been Germans who interbred overtime she'd have at least a small amount of German ancestry.

xtal
10-14-2018, 07:45 PM
Germenized Baltic peoples or polishised Baltic people?

Peterski
10-15-2018, 02:36 AM
Germenized Baltic peoples or polishised Baltic people?

"East European" on MyHerirage is a Slavic component, not Baltic.

"Baltic" is Baltic.

West Prussia was never inhabited by Balts, except for it eastern part (east of the Vistula).

In her results there is 70% Slavic and 15% Baltic, seems like a typical Polish result.

Profileid
10-15-2018, 02:53 AM
She scored 10% western europe actually.

Peterski
10-15-2018, 09:12 AM
She scored 10% western europe actually.

Which is less than average for ethnically Polish people.

cyberlorian
10-15-2018, 09:20 AM
She scored 10% western europe actually.

It is British Isles. Western Europe on MyHeritage is France, Monaco, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg.

Peterski
10-15-2018, 09:30 AM
It is British Isles. Western Europe on MyHeritage is France, Monaco, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg.

MyHeritage results of my parents and grandmother:

Mother:

https://i.imgur.com/w53Pjvj.png

Father:

https://i.imgur.com/82myP6a.png

Grandma:

https://i.imgur.com/qVNFyYQ.png

ksha
10-15-2018, 12:32 PM
My myheritage was the same...0 % germany..but balkan ..easteurope scandinavia.eastasia baltic..then i buy a 23andme test..23andme gives me german dna ..but only 8% balkan from 32% (myheritage)..the easteurope the same..this is a myheritage problem

Peterski
10-15-2018, 12:42 PM
My myheritage was the same...0 % germany..but balkan ..easteurope scandinavia.eastasia baltic..then i buy a 23andme test..23andme gives me german dna ..but only 8% balkan from 32% (myheritage)..the easteurope the same.

The most accurate is GEDmatch because it gives you "racial" percentages rather than "geographical" like 23andMe or MyHeritage.

Slavic Italian
10-15-2018, 12:56 PM
Here is my K13. I seem quite Germanic on Gedmatch. Thoughts Peterski?


Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.20
2 Baltic 25.45
3 West_Med 14.63
4 East_Med 12.31
5 West_Asian 7.53
6 Red_Sea 1.53
7 Amerindian 1.27
8 Northeast_African 1.14
9 South_Asian 1.12


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.965140
2 Hungarian @ 7.289626
3 Serbian @ 8.662889
4 East_German @ 9.730110
5 West_German @ 10.258237
6 South_Dutch @ 12.241369
7 Romanian @ 12.410620
8 Croatian @ 13.121544
9 French @ 13.121547
10 Moldavian @ 13.173233
11 Bulgarian @ 15.850746
12 North_German @ 16.056955
13 Southeast_English @ 18.341835
14 South_Polish @ 18.532433
15 Danish @ 18.788357
16 Portuguese @ 19.047068
17 North_Dutch @ 19.137180
18 North_Italian @ 19.272213
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.307318
20 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 19.391888

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_German @ 2.098491


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% North_German +25% Tuscan @ 1.648179


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.373149
2 Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.455244
3 Danish + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.478027
4 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.503964
5 East_Sicilian + Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.509618
6 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.513979
7 East_Sicilian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian @ 1.516098
8 Estonian + South_Italian + West_German + West_German @ 1.537434
9 Russian_Smolensk + West_German + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.541957
10 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German @ 1.560953
11 Belorussian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.564388
12 Belorussian + West_German + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.570863
13 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Abruzzo + West_German + West_German @ 1.578589
14 East_German + Irish + Italian_Jewish + Polish @ 1.586423
15 Croatian + Greek_Thessaly + North_German + West_German @ 1.588235
16 East_Sicilian + North_Dutch + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.589315
17 Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.596246
18 North_German + Ukrainian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.597010
19 Greek_Thessaly + South_Polish + West_German + West_German @ 1.597305
20 Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Hungarian + Southwest_English @ 1.609720

Profileid
10-15-2018, 05:29 PM
It is British Isles. Western Europe on MyHeritage is France, Monaco, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg.

Its still in western europe. Not my fault myheritage is retarded

cyberlorian
10-15-2018, 07:20 PM
Its still in western europe. Not my fault myheritage is retarded

It is rather Northwestern Europe ma'am. :)