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Alberta
10-14-2018, 02:54 PM
Her name is Sonita Alizadeh

http://www.kering.com/sites/default/files/art2_sonita-alizadeh-rappeuse-afghane-basee-a-teheran.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/1903/articles/changemaker2_570x407_crop_center.progressive_83d83 772-f963-4219-a4f8-7bf6a2bf0613_1024x1024.jpg?v=1528516617

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/afghan-rapper-sonita-alizadeh-waits-before-the-screening-of-the-at-picture-id498448976

http://s12982.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Sonita-Alizadeh.jpg

https://d2qo20r52me54s.cloudfront.net/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTYvMTEvMDIvN3ZjN2Qyemw2bF9icmlkZV82MD BfYnlfNjAwLmpwZyJdLFsicCIsInRodW1iIiwiNDkweDI3NiMi XV0/75607be01cf57c81/bride%20600%20by%20600.jpg

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 02:55 PM
very atypical . looks indian

Kamal900
10-14-2018, 03:06 PM
Indian or Pakistani. Sure as hell wouldn't pass in the middle east.

Moje ime
10-14-2018, 03:14 PM
indian

lameduck
10-14-2018, 03:15 PM
I dont think she is that atypical really. Look at malala.

https://blogs.sjsu.edu/newsroom/files/2015/03/300-malala-1jvq5m7.jpg

But the difference is that this girl is probably afghani tajik and not pashtun.

malala type can occur among Pashtuns more so than tajiks.

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 03:17 PM
I dont think she is that atypical really. Look at malala.


But the difference is that this girl is probably afghani tajik and not pashtun.

she is very atypical . afghans dont look like that in general . sorry if it bothers you (whatever weird reason there might be for that )

Alberta
10-14-2018, 03:21 PM
she is very atypical . afghans dont look like that in general . sorry if it bothers you (whatever weird reason there might be for that )

Bad for them then. She has really cute, feminine look imo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/980909946404446209/X1uG3JSU_400x400.jpg

https://archive.sltrib.com/images/2016/0123/sun_sonita_012416~12.jpg

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 03:23 PM
check this thread out https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/classify-typical-afghans-t82944.html

this is what afghans look like

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 03:25 PM
She looks straight up Indian, not what I imagine Afghani to look like.

Alberta
10-14-2018, 03:26 PM
check this thread out https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/classify-typical-afghans-t82944.html

this is what afghans look like

Not common among afghan immigrants (majority persian speakers anyway). Those you posted look kurds, turks, but I have never been to afghanistan (thank God). Can only judge by the afghans I see most are mong-influenced and some look like persians, and less pakistani.

lameduck
10-14-2018, 03:26 PM
Bad for them then. She has really cute, feminine look imo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/980909946404446209/X1uG3JSU_400x400.jpg

https://archive.sltrib.com/images/2016/0123/sun_sonita_012416~12.jpg

you can find lots of cute type looks among more typical Afghan spectrum as well.

https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/original_/a/6/a6241452-3fca-4569-9a97-35387651b55d/robotics02NW_Super_Portrait.jpg

girls from kabul university

https://s4.scoopwhoop.com/anj/Afghan_gender_studies/579698175.jpg

Alberta
10-14-2018, 03:28 PM
you can find lots of cute type looks among more typical Afghan spectrum as well.

https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/original_/a/6/a6241452-3fca-4569-9a97-35387651b55d/robotics02NW_Super_Portrait.jpg

girls from kabul university

https://s4.scoopwhoop.com/anj/Afghan_gender_studies/579698175.jpg

Yes afghan girls are much better looking than mena i think. smaller and more feminine feautures.

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 03:28 PM
Not common among afghan immigrants (majority persian speakers anyway). Those you posted look kurds, turks, but I have never been to afghanistan (thank God). Can only judge by the afghans I see most are mong-influenced and some look like persians, and less pakistani.

they dont look like turks or kurds at all

they look very afghan

lameduck
10-14-2018, 03:28 PM
Not common among afghan immigrants (majority persian speakers anyway). Those you posted look kurds, turks, but I have never been to afghanistan (thank God). Can only judge by the afghans I see most are mong-influenced and some look like persians, and less pakistani.

most Afghans in diaspora are Tajiks/uzbeks/hazaras hence more mong looks, Pashtuns mostly migrate to Pakistan.

Alberta
10-14-2018, 03:30 PM
most Afghans in diaspora are Tajiks/uzbeks/hazaras hence more mong looks, Pashtuns mostly migrate to Pakistan.

Yes I suppose pashtuns are more religious. And they have less connections to Iran (most afghan immigrants come from iran)

Ayetooey
10-14-2018, 03:31 PM
most Afghans in diaspora are Tajiks/uzbeks/hazaras hence more mong looks, Pashtuns mostly migrate to Pakistan.

I've known one Afghan irl and he was often mistaken for Chinese or Mongolian including by myself, after looking it up on images I believe he was a Hazara.

gıulıoımpa
10-14-2018, 03:34 PM
indo brachyd +proto iranid

Yaglakar
10-14-2018, 04:54 PM
check this thread out https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/classify-typical-afghans-t82944.html

this is what afghans look like

Overly light Afghans (cherry picked) in that thread? A few pages down the line, and someone posts "dark" Afghans, and some user claims they are of Hazara origin. Mongoloid = dark brown according to arthroscope Afghan users? :D

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 04:57 PM
Overly light Afghans (cherry picked) in that thread? A few pages down the line, and someone posts "dark" Afghans, and some user claims they are of Hazara origin. Mongoloid = dark brown according to arthroscope Afghan users? :D

the guy posted many dark afghans himself . I dont see how it is cherrypicked . and many afghans in diaspora are of hazara origin that is the truth . one of my friends himself is an afghan hazara lol

the people that are posted look very afghan to me . dont forget afghans have a fair share of people who look caucasus . they come out as 50% chechen etc. on gedmatch

Yaglakar
10-14-2018, 05:01 PM
the guy posted many dark afghans himself . I dont see how it is cherrypicked . and many afghans in diaspora are of hazara origin that is the truth . one of my friends himself is an afghan hazara lol

the people that are posted look very afghan to me . dont forget afghans have a fair share of people who look caucasus . they come out as 50% chechen etc. on gedmatch

Based on that thread Afghans are lighter than south Europeans. :D many links are broken though.

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 05:02 PM
Based on that thread Afghans are lighter than south Europeans. :D many links are broken though.

nonsense

I checked the pics again and they look hardcore afghan . I dont think that most would even pass outside of afghanistan

lameduck
10-14-2018, 05:03 PM
Based on that thread Afghans are lighter than south Europeans. :D many links are broken though.

Afghans have lot of pseudo Caucasus looking types , as for pigmentation they are on par with iranians according to all studies done.

this picture captures well the typical pigmentation i see among Afghan refugees in Pakistan

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Ceremonial_groundbreaking_on_a_highway_in_Kandahar _-a.jpg

Hadouken
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
^ they are tanned and bearded

the thread I linked is therefore better . people should be posted without being heavily suntanned , without headwear and beards imo . only then you can truly see how they look

lameduck
10-14-2018, 05:07 PM
^ they are tanned and bearded

the thread I linked is therefore better . people should be posted without being heavily suntanned , without headwear and beards imo . only then you can truly see how they look

yeah I agree , i just wanted to capture what I see.(obviously poor people mostly)

turbosat
10-14-2018, 05:32 PM
I saw this girl (Mursal Hedayat) on CNN. I thought she was South Asian, but she turned out to be Afghan. I think she is Pashtun, but I am not sure.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/554dd548e4b032f303e38d3b/t/58a195e46a49636c529348da/1534544890459/
https://birdsong.london/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/No-Borders-Embroidered-Tee-Detail.jpeg


This other girl Nelufar Hedayat (http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Nelufar+Hedayat) is also Afghan. They might be sisters?
https://www.noelgay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Nelufar-Traffickers-photo-880x680.jpg

http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/nelufar-hedayat.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nelufar+Hedayat+42nd+Annual+Gracie+Awards+NHbdn0GR BTfl.jpg

I think here its both of them together?
https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/eb09916602f6262d08c1c1d1bf90d2b9/5C0202CB/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/36974209_663614610679043_6339604868310761472_n.jpg

Alberta
10-14-2018, 05:38 PM
I saw this girl (Mursal Hedayat) on CNN. I thought she was South Asian, but she turned out to be Afghan. I think she is Pashtun, but I am not sure.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/554dd548e4b032f303e38d3b/t/58a195e46a49636c529348da/1534544890459/
https://birdsong.london/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/No-Borders-Embroidered-Tee-Detail.jpeg


This other girl Nelufar Hedayat (http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Nelufar+Hedayat) is also Afghan. They might be sisters?
https://www.noelgay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Nelufar-Traffickers-photo-880x680.jpg

http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/nelufar-hedayat.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nelufar+Hedayat+42nd+Annual+Gracie+Awards+NHbdn0GR BTfl.jpg

I think here its both of them together?
https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/eb09916602f6262d08c1c1d1bf90d2b9/5C0202CB/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/36974209_663614610679043_6339604868310761472_n.jpg

very pretty. Reminds me of frieda pinto:
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/freida-pinto-3.jpg?w=446&h=299&crop=1

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:04 PM
the guy posted many dark afghans himself . I dont see how it is cherrypicked . and many afghans in diaspora are of hazara origin that is the truth . one of my friends himself is an afghan hazara lol

the people that are posted look very afghan to me . dont forget afghans have a fair share of people who look caucasus . they come out as 50% chechen etc. on gedmatch

No they don't look at all like Caucasus people, and they don't come out as 50% Chechen, provide me a pic or any source you have.

Afghans (Pashtuns) on EuTest have as much South_Asian than West_Asian and relatively poor (30%), and they have poor North Caucasus on Eurogenes K36.
While Chechens on EuTest have only 4% South_Asian and nearly 50% West_Asian (North Caucasus here not Middle East/Iran) compared to Kurds or Iranians that have 30% just like Pashtuns.

Just wanted to point that Iranians are mostly East_Med and Pashtuns are mostly South_Asian.
Light features from Chechens don't come from North Caucasus but from Europe (they have like 20-30% Scandinavian/Baltic) so if a Pashtun have light features (which is rare) it's because of Europe not Caucasus.

Papastratosels26
10-19-2018, 12:05 PM
She looks Indian.

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Gangrel
10-19-2018, 12:06 PM
No they don't look at all like Caucasus people, and they don't come out as 50% Chechen, provide me a pic or any source you have.

Afghans (Pashtuns) on EuTest have as much South_Asian than West_Asian and relatively poor (30%), and they have poor North Caucasus on Eurogenes K36.
While Chechens on EuTest have only 4% South_Asian and nearly 50% West_Asian (North Caucasus here not Middle East/Iran) compared to Kurds or Iranians that have 30% just like Pashtuns.

Just wanted to point that Iranians are mostly East_Med and Pashtuns are mostly South_Asian.
Light features from Chechens don't come from North Caucasus but from Europe (they have like 20-30% Scandinavian/Baltic) so if a Pashtun have light features (which is rare) it's because of Europe not Caucasus.
Wrong. Iranians are mainly West Asian/Caucasus. Pashtuns the same.

Hadouken
10-19-2018, 12:07 PM
No they don't look at all like Caucasus people, and they don't come out as 50% Chechen, provide me a pic or any source you have.

Afghans (Pashtuns) on EuTest have as much South_Asian than West_Asian and relatively poor (30%), and they have poor North Caucasus on Eurogenes K36.
While Chechens on EuTest have only 4% South_Asian and nearly 50% West_Asian (North Caucasus here not Middle East/Iran) compared to Kurds or Iranians that have 30% just like Pashtuns.

Just wanted to point that Iranians are mostly East_Med and Pashtuns are mostly South_Asian.
Light features from Chechens don't come from North Caucasus but from Europe (they have like 20-30% Scandinavian/Baltic) so if a Pashtun have light features (which is rare) it's because of Europe not Caucasus.

I am on phone but believe me that afghan pashtuns come out as 50 % north caucasian

also dont forget that the south asian has a lot of hidden chg like stuff in it

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:12 PM
I am on phone but believe me that afghan pashtuns come out as 50 % north caucasian

also dont forget that the south asian has a lot of hidden chg like stuff in it

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?107779-Eurogenes-K36-for-Afghan-Pashtuns
Look, they have between 10% - 15%, even Chechens score only 50% North_Caucasian so don't lie.

And i don't buy that CHG bullshit, that's a real map and it shows that CHG is as present in Middle East as it is in Eastern Europe
http://i.imgur.com/zHpTmCQ.png

Of course, Kurds for example have a lot of CHG but not as close as Caucasians.

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:14 PM
Wrong. Iranians are mainly West Asian/Caucasus. Pashtuns the same.

No, Iranians are as East_Med (31%) as West_Asian (34%) on EuTest, Pashtuns are West_Asian (32%) and South_Asian (28%), for me it's the same.

Hadouken
10-19-2018, 12:17 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?107779-Eurogenes-K36-for-Afghan-Pashtuns
Look, they have between 10% - 15%, even Chechens score only 50% North_Caucasian so don't lie.

And i don't buy that CHG bullshit, that's a real map and it shows that CHG is as present in Middle East as it is in Eastern Europe
http://i.imgur.com/zHpTmCQ.png

Of course, Kurds for example have a lot of CHG but not as close as Caucasians.

I am not lying I had afghan kit numbers and they had such results . I posted them here too

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:19 PM
I am not lying I had afghan kit numbers and they had such results . I posted them here too

So you're saying they have more North_Caucasian than North Caucasians ? It seems like bullshit, there's 5 Pashtun kits and they have low North Caucasus.

Gangrel
10-19-2018, 12:26 PM
No, Iranians are as East_Med (31%) as West_Asian (34%) on EuTest, Pashtuns are West_Asian (32%) and South_Asian (28%), for me it's the same.

Lmao Eutest

Eurogenes K13

Iranian - 38.20 West Asian 29.70 East Med

Pashtun Afghan - 40.21 West Asian 25.38 South Asian

Both significantly more West Asian than East Med/South Asian

Hadouken
10-19-2018, 12:34 PM
So you're saying they have more North_Caucasian than North Caucasians ? It seems like bullshit, there's 5 Pashtun kits and they have low North Caucasus.

lol you misunderstood . they dont score 50 % north caucasian as in a component. in the mixed mode they get modelled as 50% north caucasian + 50% Kashmiri or other far north indian

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:35 PM
Lmao Eutest

Eurogenes K13

Iranian - 38.20 West Asian 29.70 East Med

Pashtun Afghan - 40.21 West Asian 25.38 South Asian

Both significantly more West Asian than East Med/South Asian

Still, here West Asian =/= North Caucasus like Hadouken says.

lameduck
10-19-2018, 12:37 PM
Still, here West Asian =/= North Caucasus like Hadouken says.

I think you misunderstood him , he is saying that some Pashtuns can be modelled as 50% North caucasian and 50% Northern Most South Asian on calculators which is quite impressive

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 12:43 PM
I think you misunderstood him , he is saying that some Pashtuns can be modelled as 50% North caucasian and 50% Northern Most South Asian on calculators which is quite impressive

Which is not true, i provided 5 kits and it shows that they have low North Caucasian, their phenotype don't look Caucasian nor they could pass in North Caucasus areas.

Jana
10-19-2018, 12:45 PM
West Asian peaks in Georgians rather than in North Caucasians, who have steppe and minor mongoloid admixture.

Jana
10-19-2018, 12:46 PM
I saw this girl (Mursal Hedayat) on CNN. I thought she was South Asian, but she turned out to be Afghan. I think she is Pashtun, but I am not sure.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/554dd548e4b032f303e38d3b/t/58a195e46a49636c529348da/1534544890459/
https://birdsong.london/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/No-Borders-Embroidered-Tee-Detail.jpeg


This other girl Nelufar Hedayat (http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Nelufar+Hedayat) is also Afghan. They might be sisters?
https://www.noelgay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Nelufar-Traffickers-photo-880x680.jpg

http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/nelufar-hedayat.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nelufar+Hedayat+42nd+Annual+Gracie+Awards+NHbdn0GR BTfl.jpg

I think here its both of them together?
https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/eb09916602f6262d08c1c1d1bf90d2b9/5C0202CB/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/36974209_663614610679043_6339604868310761472_n.jpg

These girls are bautiful.

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 01:01 PM
West Asian peaks in Georgians rather than in North Caucasians, who have steppe and minor mongoloid admixture.

It depends on which North Caucasians, for example of Dodecad K12b, an average Chechen is (if you hump it) 50-55% Caucasus, 25-30% North_European, 15-20% Gedrosia and only 1-5% Siberian (aka Mongoloid here ?)

Same goes on Eurogenes K13, so it's very minor compared to other Turkic people in Caucasus like Nogays.

Gangrel
10-19-2018, 01:39 PM
It depends on which North Caucasians, for example of Dodecad K12b, an average Chechen is (if you hump it) 50-55% Caucasus, 25-30% North_European, 15-20% Gedrosia and only 1-5% Siberian (aka Mongoloid here ?)

Same goes on Eurogenes K13, so it's very minor compared to other Turkic people in Caucasus like Nogays.

Afghan Pashtun member Myanthropologies

puntDNAL k10 Ancient Oracle

# Population Percent
1 CHG 39.56
2 ASI 29.25
3 WHG 12.99
4 ENF 10.93
5 Amerindian 2.89
6 Siberian 2.77
7 E_Asian 0.96
8 Sub-Saharan 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kalash 5.94
2 Pashtun 7.72
3 Pathan 11.03
4 Burusho 11.96
5 Sindhi 13.51
6 Brahui 15.2
7 Balochi 17.33
8 Makrani 17.98
9 UP_Brahmin 24.8
10 Chechen 26.01
11 Lezgin 28.45
12 Iranian 28.99
13 North_Ossetian 30.76
14 Nogai 31.3
15 Kumyk 31.4
16 Kurdish 32.5
17 Punjabi 34.2
18 Turkish_Kayseri 34.47
19 Uzbek 34.85
20 Turkish_Aydin 35.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% UP_Brahmin + 48.8% Chechen @ 2.56

Dekziiro
10-19-2018, 02:02 PM
Afghan Pashtun member Myanthropologies

puntDNAL k10 Ancient Oracle

# Population Percent
1 CHG 39.56
2 ASI 29.25
3 WHG 12.99
4 ENF 10.93
5 Amerindian 2.89
6 Siberian 2.77
7 E_Asian 0.96
8 Sub-Saharan 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kalash 5.94
2 Pashtun 7.72
3 Pathan 11.03
4 Burusho 11.96
5 Sindhi 13.51
6 Brahui 15.2
7 Balochi 17.33
8 Makrani 17.98
9 UP_Brahmin 24.8
10 Chechen 26.01
11 Lezgin 28.45
12 Iranian 28.99
13 North_Ossetian 30.76
14 Nogai 31.3
15 Kumyk 31.4
16 Kurdish 32.5
17 Punjabi 34.2
18 Turkish_Kayseri 34.47
19 Uzbek 34.85
20 Turkish_Aydin 35.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% UP_Brahmin + 48.8% Chechen @ 2.56

:D :D :D
It's a estimation, it doesn't mean he has Chechen blood, he has no ancestors with Chechen blood, it doesn't even mean they share same genes, it's an estimation, i got 5% Japanese on the oracle, while i have less than 1% East_Asian.
Send his Dodecad K12 results, so i'll laugh a little bit.

Gangrel
10-19-2018, 05:10 PM
:D :D :D
It's a estimation, it doesn't mean he has Chechen blood, he has no ancestors with Chechen blood, it doesn't even mean they share same genes, it's an estimation, i got 5% Japanese on the oracle, while i have less than 1% East_Asian.
Send his Dodecad K12 results, so i'll laugh a little bit.

Nobody said he was half Chechen, he is modeled that way. Your denial is amazing btw

Bandesha
10-19-2018, 06:07 PM
Her name is Sonita Alizadeh

http://www.kering.com/sites/default/files/art2_sonita-alizadeh-rappeuse-afghane-basee-a-teheran.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/1903/articles/changemaker2_570x407_crop_center.progressive_83d83 772-f963-4219-a4f8-7bf6a2bf0613_1024x1024.jpg?v=1528516617

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/afghan-rapper-sonita-alizadeh-waits-before-the-screening-of-the-at-picture-id498448976

http://s12982.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Sonita-Alizadeh.jpg

https://d2qo20r52me54s.cloudfront.net/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTYvMTEvMDIvN3ZjN2Qyemw2bF9icmlkZV82MD BfYnlfNjAwLmpwZyJdLFsicCIsInRodW1iIiwiNDkweDI3NiMi XV0/75607be01cf57c81/bride%20600%20by%20600.jpg

looks like typical south asian feminist , i have seen most feminist are ugly and mostly with this phenotype , with 11 cats and 4 dogs and hate man in south asia