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xripkan
10-16-2018, 09:14 PM
Hello, so I upload my results on gedmatch and I have used mostly the eurogenes calculators. I would like some help to unerstand better the results and especially the combination of the populations. For example I found strange the fact that in many calculators I have some jewish results despite I do not know anything about a jewish ancestor. How can I interpret that?

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent1East_Med24.43
2Atlantic17.62
3West_Med14.48
4West_Asian14.37
5Baltic10.69
6North_Sea7.72
7Eastern_Euro6.44
8Red_Sea2.73

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 4.254550
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.964528
3 Central_Greek @ 8.359681
4 West_Sicilian @ 9.488018
5 East_Sicilian @ 9.635542
6 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.008021
7 Ashkenazi @ 10.447113
8 South_Italian @ 11.152130
9 Bulgarian @ 12.026366
10 Tuscan @ 12.048338
11 Romanian @ 15.198464
12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.063034
13 Italian_Jewish @ 16.312510
14 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.314535
15 North_Italian @ 18.024378
16 Serbian @ 19.417986
17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.598433
18 Turkish @ 22.768404
19 Cyprian @ 23.049229
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 23.685194

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Greek @ 4.254550

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
1 Greek + Greek + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210
2 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.896968
3 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.925893
4 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.965997
5 Greek + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.037837
6 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Greek @ 4.053055
7 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.130714
8 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 4.148146
9 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.154962
10 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.209282
11 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.229155
12 Greek + Greek + Greek + West_Sicilian @ 4.248516
13 Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.254550
14 Greek + Greek + Romanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.263758
15 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.292868
16 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.294418
17 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.297198
18 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.315464
19 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.316400
20 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.317794

Mingle
10-16-2018, 09:41 PM
Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.

Rgvgjhvv
10-16-2018, 09:43 PM
Hello, so I upload my results on gedmatch and I have used mostly the eurogenes calculators. I would like some help to unerstand better the results and especially the combination of the populations. For example I found strange the fact that in many calculators I have some jewish results despite I do not know anything about a jewish ancestor. How can I interpret that?

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent1East_Med24.43
2Atlantic17.62
3West_Med14.48
4West_Asian14.37
5Baltic10.69
6North_Sea7.72
7Eastern_Euro6.44
8Red_Sea2.73

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 4.254550
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.964528
3 Central_Greek @ 8.359681
4 West_Sicilian @ 9.488018
5 East_Sicilian @ 9.635542
6 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.008021
7 Ashkenazi @ 10.447113
8 South_Italian @ 11.152130
9 Bulgarian @ 12.026366
10 Tuscan @ 12.048338
11 Romanian @ 15.198464
12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.063034
13 Italian_Jewish @ 16.312510
14 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.314535
15 North_Italian @ 18.024378
16 Serbian @ 19.417986
17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.598433
18 Turkish @ 22.768404
19 Cyprian @ 23.049229
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 23.685194

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Greek @ 4.254550

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
1 Greek + Greek + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210
2 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.896968
3 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.925893
4 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.965997
5 Greek + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.037837
6 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Greek @ 4.053055
7 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.130714
8 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 4.148146
9 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.154962
10 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.209282
11 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.229155
12 Greek + Greek + Greek + West_Sicilian @ 4.248516
13 Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.254550
14 Greek + Greek + Romanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.263758
15 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.292868
16 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.294418
17 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.297198
18 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.315464
19 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.316400
20 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.317794

I assume you are from the Peleponnese?

xripkan
10-16-2018, 10:04 PM
Yes I am 3/4 from Peloponnese and 1/4 from Thessaly.

xripkan
10-16-2018, 10:12 PM
Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.

Actually I have recently received my DNA results from 23andme and I had 2% percent arabian and North African DNA . It was all at X chromosome and it remained in every confidence level. According to my gedmatch I have big distance from every other population from this region. That is why I think I may have some Jewish ancestry but I don't know if gedmatch works in that way. Am I right?

Rgvgjhvv
10-16-2018, 10:13 PM
Yes I am 3/4 from Peloponnese and 1/4 from Thessaly.

Ya your results are very typical for that region. Non-Greek results are just telling you which populations are genetically close to your results, and not a sign of any ancestry from those regions.

Sikeliot
10-17-2018, 01:03 AM
Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.

Some Greeks are too Slavic to be similar to Ashkenazim and southern Italians.

This particular result seems somewhat shifted toward Spain though (high Atlantic).

Coolguy1
10-17-2018, 02:29 AM
Could you post dodecad k12b?

xripkan
10-17-2018, 06:31 AM
Could you post dodecad k12b?

These are my dodecad k12b results

Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle


The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.22
2 Atlantic_Med 27.55
3 North_European 22.69
4 Southwest_Asian 7.50
5 Gedrosia 4.92
6 Northwest_African 2.37
7 South_Asian 1.75


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Dodecad @ 6.264077
2 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 8.100996
3 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 9.459302
4 Tuscan_HGDP @ 11.725826
5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 12.615416
6 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 12.737267
7 TSI30_Metspalu @ 12.778362
8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 12.907060
9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 13.341467
10 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 13.432477
11 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 13.603907
12 Romanians_Behar @ 14.875485
13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.436171
14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 19.683111
15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.822296
16 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 21.995888
17 Turkish_Dodecad @ 25.601059
18 Cypriots_Behar @ 27.360167
19 Turks_Behar @ 28.249435
20 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 29.210794

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanians_Behar +50% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanians_Behar +25% Sicilian_Dodecad +25% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.372381
2 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.406085
3 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.443154
4 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.495397
5 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.525553
6 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.544811
7 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.554656
8 Romanians_Behar + Romanians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297
9 Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.607164
10 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 2.607239
11 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.610913
12 Romanians_Behar + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.613446
13 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.614744
14 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.622501
15 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.632030
16 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.634680
17 Adygei_HGDP + Sardinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.635982
18 Georgians_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.636101
19 Armenian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.636898
20 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.637273

xripkan
10-17-2018, 06:50 AM
Actually this is my gedmatch kit number AP6562337

Kamal900
10-17-2018, 06:55 AM
Your west Asiatic admixture is beautiful.:)

xripkan
10-17-2018, 09:25 AM
Your west Asiatic admixture is beautiful.:)

I don't know, I suppose it is not very strong based on my 23andme results. What do you mean beautiful?

xripkan
10-17-2018, 09:30 PM
Some Greeks are too Slavic to be similar to Ashkenazim and southern Italians.

This particular result seems somewhat shifted toward Spain though (high Atlantic).

Sikeliot can you explain me what you mean shifted toward Spain?