Post your nMonte with penalization from K36

[FilhoV]

It’s on the LM Genetics test by Lukasz

[FilhoV]

Mine

nMonte w ith penalization=0 function, rather speculative or showing deeper ancestry

"distance%=9.1217"

Asturia,73.8
Romanian_Jew,7.8
TUN_Gabes,7
ALG_Kabylie,4.2
Sephardi_Portugal_Belmonte,3
Andalusia,2
La_Rioja,1
Hadza,0.8
Pl_Central,0.4

=100

[oszkar07]

[1] "distance%=4.3761"
Donau_Schwaben,23.2
Tirol,17.8
Oberland(western_Ost_Preussen),13.4
Dutch_Gelderland,10.4
Ukraine_Kharkiv,7.2
Ukraine_Cherkassy,6.6
Mordva_Moksha,5.4
Saarland,5
Sachsen-Anhalt,4.6
Ukraine_Zhytomyr,3.4
Dutch_Limburg,1.8
País_Vasco,1.2

[Thracian]

[1] "distance%=7.1167"

Thrace,25.6
GR_Thessaly,16
South_Romania,14.8
TR_Istanbul,9
Tirol,5.6
Albanians_FYROM,3
Montenegro,1.8
GR_Eubea,1.6
Serbia,1.4
Balkars,1.2
IT_Veneto,0.8
Kosovo,0.8
South-West_Romania,0.8

Rest are below 0.6 I didn't copy/paste them.

[Kaspias]

"distance%=5.7925"
Tatars_Kazan,26.8
GR_Andros,17
Lebanon_Christian,15.4
GR_Vlach,10.6
Tatars_Siberia,10.6
Assyrians,9
GR_Macedonia,3.2
Lori,3
GR_Thesalloniki,1.6
TR_Trabzon,1.6
Druzes,0.8
Athabaskan,0.4

[Imperator Biff]

"distance%=5.4787"
Ireland,36.2
Northern_Ireland,24.2
Scotland,21
Cumbria,7.6
Niedersachsen,2.6
NL_Drenthe,1.8
NL_Friesland,1.4
NL_Overijssel,1.2
Schleswig-Holstein,1.2
Iceland,1
Navarra,0.6
NL_Gelderland,0.4
Nordrhein-Westfalen,0.4
FR_Basque,0.2
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,0.2

[Grace O'Malley]

I presume this is the right set.

nMonte3 (all references)
[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%" Ireland Wales Orkney Northern_Ireland 6.367810 6.811493 7.290053 8.080879 Scotland England_South-West Cumbria Dutch_Overijssel 8.935720 9.729106 10.094846 10.180054

Ireland,61.2
Scotland,17.2
Wales,14.8
Oberland(western_Ost_Preussen),3.4
Iceland,0.8
Dutch_Overijssel,0.6
Grenzmark,0.4
Norwegians,0.4
Dutch_Friesland,0.2
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,0.2
Niedersachsen,0.2
Orkney,0.2
PL_North,0.2
Pommern,0.2

[Hadouken]

is it free ? if yes what do I have to do exactly

[Imperator Biff]

is it free ? if yes what do I have to do exactly

Nah, about 7 shekels in total.
http://www.lm-genetics.ovh

[Nurzat]

I am mixed and for mixed people is probably less relevant (mom is northeast Romanian=Moldovan, dad is Carpathian Rusyn=Ruthenian/Rusnak).

it picks Southwest Slavs, Northeast Romanians, Eastern European Germans and Ukrainians/Russians/Poles.

but as I said, I am mixed, so my parents would probably score much different, dad more Slavic-Germanic, mom more Romanian/Balkanic.

Serbia,65
North-East_Romania,15.6
Sathmarer_Schwaben,7.4
Ukraine_Zhytomyr,3.2
Slovenia,3
Ukraine_Volhyn,2.4
Carpathian_Rusyns,1.4
Ukraine_Kharkiv,1
RU_Tambov,0.4
Zaporozhe_Cossacks,0.4
Pl_Central,0.2

[Jana]

Mine results are very SW Slavic, but I guess some German is hiding in Slovenian :)

Bosniaks 52.8
Slovenia 40.6
Croatia 1.8
PL_Masovia 1
PL_Lublin 0.8
PL_Suwlaskie 0.8
PL_South_(Malopolska) 0.8
Croats_BiH 0.4
Greater_Poland_Wielkopolska 0.4
North_Dagestan 0.4
Cimbri_Lessina 0.2
Ossetians 0.2

[Jana]

Interesting how for Stears nMonte detects German, Romanian, Baltic, Uralic and North Caucasian ancestry.

Austria_Tyrol 35.30
Romania_SW 30.75
Lithuanian 20.45
North_Dagestan 5.85
Finnish_East 4.05
Karelian_Tver 2.15
GR_Istanbul 0.95
GR_Cyclades 0.25
Sweden 0.10
GR_Thrace 0.05
IT_Tuscany 0.05

[Carpatz]

..

[Lucas]

I am mixed and for mixed people is probably less relevant (mom is northeast Romanian=Moldovan, dad is Carpathian Rusyn=Ruthenian/Rusnak).

it picks Southwest Slavs, Northeast Romanians, Eastern European Germans and Ukrainians/Russians/Poles.

but as I said, I am mixed, so my parents would probably score much different, dad more Slavic-Germanic, mom more Romanian/Balkanic.

Serbia,65
North-East_Romania,15.6
Sathmarer_Schwaben,7.4
Ukraine_Zhytomyr,3.2
Slovenia,3
Ukraine_Volhyn,2.4
Carpathian_Rusyns,1.4
Ukraine_Kharkiv,1
RU_Tambov,0.4
Zaporozhe_Cossacks,0.4
Pl_Central,0.2

It wasn't nMonte with penalization=0 in your case. I provide it when I'm sure what mix is someone as it could give unexpected results sometimes.
Now when I know your mixture it makes sense.

"distance%=0.911"

Ukraine_Zhytomyr,31
GR_Ipeiros,23.4
Sathmarer_Schwaben,16
Ukraine_Volhyn,12.8
Castilla,11
Chechens,4.6
Nganassan,1
Itelmen,0.2


It is not clear at first glance but if we consider Greek, Caucasus and Iberian as your Romanian (Latin + PaleoBalkan) side (38%) and Ukrainian (43%) as Rusyn it is more in line.

Sathmar Schwaben are Germans from NW Romania. Could have some Romanian and Hungarian blood probably as there are very Balkan shifted comparing to other German groups. It is probability you have some Romanian German blood indeed.

Nganassan and Itelmen are caused by Siberian component.

[Nurzat]

It wasn't nMonte with penalization=0 in your case. I provide it when I'm sure what mix is someone as it could give unexpected results sometimes.
Now when I know your mixture it makes sense.

"distance%=0.911"

Ukraine_Zhytomyr,31
GR_Ipeiros,23.4
Sathmarer_Schwaben,16
Ukraine_Volhyn,12.8
Castilla,11
Chechens,4.6
Nganassan,1
Itelmen,0.2


It is not clear at first glance but if we consider Greek, Caucasus and Iberian as your Romanian (Latin + PaleoBalkan) side (38%) and Ukrainian (43%) as Rusyn it is more in line.

Sathmar Schwaben are Germans from NW Romania. Could have some Romanian and Hungarian blood probably as there are very Balkan shifted comparing to other German groups. It is probability you have some Romanian German blood indeed.

Nganassan and Itelmen are caused by Siberian component.

for the German side - my dad's village was a shared Orthodox Ukrainian / Lutheran German colony established in the late 18th century in the Austrian empire at the crossroads of Galicia, Bukovina and Maramureș/Marmarosh, it could be that the people in the village also mixed a bit in spite of the different ethnicity and religion, so that the Ukrainians in the village may have some German ancestry now

[Lucas]

for the German side - my dad's village was a shared Orthodox Ukrainian / Lutheran German colony established in the late 18th century in the Austrian empire at the crossroads of Galicia, Bukovina and Maramureș/Marmarosh, it could be that the people in the village also mixed a bit in spite of the different ethnicity and religion, so that the Ukrainians in the village may have some German ancestry now

Very interesting, so you see it makes sense. In standard nMonte you have 7% Sathmar Schwaben also.

[FilhoV]

Very interesting, so you see it makes sense. In standard nMonte you have 7% Sathmar Schwaben also.

How typical is mine among Portuguese and other Iberians

nMonte w ith penalization=0 function, rather speculative or showing deeper ancestry

"distance%=9.1217"

Asturia,73.8
Romanian_Jew,7.8
TUN_Gabes,7
ALG_Kabylie,4.2
Sephardi_Portugal_Belmonte,3
Andalusia,2
La_Rioja,1
Hadza,0.8
Pl_Central,0.4

=100

[Koolmets21]

Here is mine:

nMonte3 (with penalization=0, showing better distant admixtures)
"distance%=1.0871"
Sephardi_Portugal_Belmonte,44
Ireland,29
GR_Thrace,12
IQ_Mandean,5
Georgia_Imereti,4.6
Lebanon_Muslim,4
Cumbria,0.8
Ukraine_Volhyn,0.6

[Koolmets21]

targeted nMonte3 (with penalization=0, without Sephardi, Mizrahi Jewish and non-Jewish MENA references)
"distance%=1.2951"
Sicily_Messina,52
Ireland,31.2
La_Rioja,12.4
Zaporozhe_Cossacks,2.6
Crimean_Tatars_Coast,1.8

[Lucas]

Those who have coordinates can make nMonte with pen=0 on Poi's K36 Runner.

[Slavic Italian]

Nordrhein-Westfalen,46.8
IT_Tuscany,31
Latvia_north-eastern,13
IT_Aosta,4.6
Swiss_Italian,2.4
Yemen_Jew,1.2
Chechens,0.8
South_Albania,0.2

[celticdragongod]

nMonte3 penalization=0

"distance%=4.7004"

Ireland 77.2
Ukraine_Kharkiv 9.4
Spain_La_Rioja 9
Chechens 3
Northern_Ireland 1.2
PL_Suwalskie 0.2

[celticdragongod]

I presume this is the right set.

nMonte3 (all references)
[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%" Ireland Wales Orkney Northern_Ireland 6.367810 6.811493 7.290053 8.080879 Scotland England_South-West Cumbria Dutch_Overijssel 8.935720 9.729106 10.094846 10.180054

Ireland,61.2
Scotland,17.2
Wales,14.8
Oberland(western_Ost_Preussen),3.4
Iceland,0.8
Dutch_Overijssel,0.6
Grenzmark,0.4
Norwegians,0.4
Dutch_Friesland,0.2
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,0.2
Niedersachsen,0.2
Orkney,0.2
PL_North,0.2
Pommern,0.2

I think it refers to the one where penalization=0.

[Coastal Elite]

NE_England,34.8
Bulgaria,26
South-West_Romania,18
SE_England,17.6
País_Vasco,2.2
East_&_North_Finns,1.4

[Rædwald]

nMonte3 with penalization=0 theoretically showing deepr admixtures, ignoring recent drift
"distance%=0.37"
FR_Brittany,33.2
Cumbria,27.6
NL_Drenthe,21.6
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,11.6

Everything else is too low to factor

[Carpatz]

North-West Romania,63
North-East Romania,21.8
Grenzmark,4.2
Ukraine_Chernivtsi,1.8
Hungary,1.6
Slovenia,1.6
Central_Romania,1.4
Pl_Lublin,0.8
Austria,0.6
Carpathian_Rusyns,0.6
IT_Piemonte,0.6
IT_Sardinia,0.6
IT_Ladinia,0.4
Pl_Upper_Silesia,0.4

[Dick]

Thanks Lukasz

pen=0, all references

"distance%=0.5579"

Albanians_FYROM,32.6
Ukraine_Kharkiv,26
Sathmarer_Schwaben,24
Latvia_north-eastern,10.6
Lebanon_Christian,4.6
GR_Ipeiros,1.8
South_Albania,0.4

[Lemgrant]

nMonte 3, pen=0

Early-Slavic,44.8
Early-Baltic,23.8
North-West-Celtic,16.2
Iron-Age-LBA-Steppe,12.8
Ancient-Iran,0.6
Polynesian-Botocudo,0.4
Central_African,0.2
HG-Ethiopia-Mota,0.2
Indo-Chinese,0.2
North_African,0.2
Northeast_African,0.2
Pygmy,0.2
South_Asian,0.2

[Lemgrant]

*double post* (edited)

and

incorrect post above

[Benyzero]

Is this the same which is free now under yourdnaportal k36 ?

[Nurzat]

pen 0. I chose the reference populations on the nMonte runner K36. why always the Greek score?


"sample": "Custom:Nurzat",
"fit": 2.7046,
"Carpathian_Rusyns": 65,
"GR_Peloponese": 34.17,
"Moldavia": 0.83,
"GER_Sachsen": 0,
"PL_South(Ma≥opolska)": 0,
"PL_Subcarpathia": 0,
"Ukraine_Chernivtsi": 0,


"sample": "Custom:Nurzat",
"fit": 2.4841,
"Carpathian_Rusyns": 60,
"GR_Ipeiros": 39.17,
"GER_Sachsen": 0.83,
"Crimean_Tatars_Coast": 0,
"GR_Peloponese": 0,
"GR_Vlach": 0,
"Moldavia": 0,
"PL_South(Ma≥opolska)": 0,
"PL_Subcarpathia": 0,
"Ukraine_Chernivtsi": 0,


"sample": "Custom:Nurzat",
"fit": 2.4485,
"North-East_Romania": 45,
"Carpathian_Rusyns": 33.33,
"GR_Ipeiros": 21.67,
"Crimean_Tatars_Coast": 0,
"GER_Sachsen": 0,
"GR_Peloponese": 0,
"GR_Vlach": 0,
"Moldavia": 0,
"PL_South(Ma≥opolska)": 0,
"PL_Subcarpathia": 0,
"Ukraine_Chernivtsi": 0,


"sample": "Custom:Nurzat",
"fit": 2.4359,
"North-East_Romania": 36.67,
"Carpathian_Rusyns": 35,
"GR_Ipeiros": 25,
"Udmurts": 3.33,
"Tatars_Kazan": 0,

[Pedro Ruben]

nMonte3 with PENALIZATION=0

ES_Galicia 29
ES_Leon 26.2
ES_Huelva 13.8
ES_La_Mancha 7.8
Luxembourg 6.6
ES_Cantabria 4.8
South_Morocco_Berbers 3.6
Masai 3.2
PL_north-eastern(Suwalki) 2.2
NL_Noord-Brabant 1.8
Hadza 1

[firemonkey]

I'm not sure if this is what's needed.

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Wales Scotland Northern_Ireland Orkney NE_England Iceland NL_Groningen Ireland
0.5981373 0.6903694 0.7115402 0.7247973 0.7685134 0.7957212 0.8070037 0.8145612
"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE" (estimated percentages)
"distance%=0.5261"
Wales,60
NL_Groningen,17.2
Iceland,6.6
NL_Friesland,4.8
Northern_Ireland,4
Scotland,3
Ireland,2.4
NE_England,1.6
North_Norway,0.4

[Sebbo]

Thank you, this is very interesting, could you tell me what he gets in 23andme please? Is the GR_Cyclades associated with North Caucasian results in K36? THANKS! :)

[Lucas]

Thank you, this is very interesting, could you tell me what he gets in 23andme please? Is the GR_Cyclades associated with North Caucasian results in K36? THANKS! :)

I think rather East Med.

[JamesBond007]

This is the closest I can get it for free with the limited four populations on POI runner :

[
{
"sample": "Custom:Kevin",
"fit": 3.6976,
"SE_England": 40.83,
"West_Scottish": 25,
"Norway_Hedmark": 23.33,
"GER_West_Prussia": 10.83,

"closestDistances": [
"SE_England:average: 3.882291",
"West_Scottish:average: 4.135735",
"Norway_Hedmark:average: 4.433231",
"GER_West_Prussia:average: 4.863782"
]
}
]

[Sebbo]

I think rather East Med.

I have seen it in tiny amounts on people's Nmonte results when they have no East Med on K36, for Central/ Eastern Europeans (Germans Hungarians etc) without Jewish or Southern European ancestry, it indicates just neolithic farmer heritage? What does Stears get on 23andme?