Which of these three mildly controversial statements do you agree with?

[Tooting Carmen]

(1) More Iberians, Southern Italians and Greeks can pass in Turkey and the Levant than in Scandinavia.

(2) More Burmese and Malaysians can pass in Bangladesh, Nepal and Northeast India than in Japan and Korea.

(3) More Pakistanis and NW Indians can pass in Iran and Afghanistan than in Sri Lanka and the Maldives.

[Tooting Carmen]

Don't know, but better someone call the bizzies cuz this is a highly controversial matter indeed. Beware Tooting, beware of silent dogs and still waters.

Surely you can at least answer the first point if not so much the other two, couldn't you?

[Pitsa]

I don't find these statements controversial at all, just stupid.

Is this really all that's on your my mind 24/7?

[Kamal900]

(3). The South Asian admixture in Iran is around 16 to 20% which is very significant in comparison to other MENA peoples.

[Thambi]

(2) Bangladesh not so much but they could definitely pass with ease in northeast india and nepal over japan/korea. Burmese especially are almost identical to northeast indians. Malaysians could pass in both areas and maybe parts of bangladesh as well.

(1) I'm not sure about this
(3) Definitely not.

[Regnera]

1 and 3

[gıulıoımpa]

from the first statement you seem to imagine Turkey much darker than it actually is.

either way there is a lot of separation between light and dark types in Southern italy and light Southern italians look more balkan than other stuff i would say. minority is Hallstatt and can pass in scandinavia

[Tooting Carmen]

I visited Istanbul six years ago, so I know how Turks look. I agree that they are noticeably lighter and more Euro-shifted than Palestinians and Jordanians, but not so dramatically different to quite a few Lebanese and Syrians.

[Kivan]

I visited Istanbul six years ago, so I know how Turks look. I agree that they are noticeably lighter and more Euro-shifted than Palestinians and Jordanians, but not so dramatically different to quite a few Lebanese and Syrians.

:picard1:

Seems like you don't know much how Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, et look like then.

Istanbul is full of immigrants from other regions, Kurds, Arabs, Bosnians, gypsies, etc. It's not a good place to tell how Turks look like at all. We don't look like Lebanese neither Syrians, troll. Turkey is today is full of Syrian refugees and they stick out like a sore thumb, especially when they are in group.

Last time i checked, you were comparing us to Indians. Then i don't need to take your opinion seriously.

[Tooting Carmen]

from the first statement you seem to imagine Turkey much darker than it actually is.

either way there is a lot of separation between light and dark types in Southern italy and light Southern italians look more balkan than other stuff i would say. minority is Hallstatt and can pass in scandinavia

So what would be your answer to point (1)?

[pelikarski]

:picard1:

Seems like you don't know much how Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, et look like then.

Istanbul is full of immigrants from other regions, Kurds, Arabs, Bosnians, gypsies, etc. It's not a good place to tell how Turks look like at all. We don't look like Lebanese neither Syrians, troll. Turkey is today is full of Syrian refugees and they stick out like a sore thumb, especially when they are in group.

Last time i checked, you were comparing us to Indians. Then i don't need to take your opinion seriously.
I agree. Taking Istanbul as a reference for Turkish look, would be the same as pointing London for average Englishman
Would cities like Izmir or Bursa be more representative of average Turk?

[gıulıoımpa]

So what would be your answer to point (1)?

i like to argument , what i find too potentially arbitrary to answer with my knowledge

[Kivan]

I agree. Taking Istanbul as a reference for Turkish look, would be the same as pointing London for average Englishman
Would cities like Izmir or Bursa be more representative of average Turk?

Bursa and Izmir also have immigrants. But they would be better references if compared to Istanbul, at least. It's hard to tell what would be an "average Turk". The local population in my region look noticeable different from the people in the Eastern-Black Sea coast, for instance. Turkey is not small country with a homogenous population, like many European countries.

[Loki]

:picard1:

Seems like you don't know much how Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, et look like then.

Istanbul is full of immigrants from other regions, Kurds, Arabs, Bosnians, gypsies, etc. It's not a good place to tell how Turks look like at all. We don't look like Lebanese neither Syrians, troll. Turkey is today is full of Syrian refugees and they stick out like a sore thumb, especially when they are in group.

Last time i checked, you were comparing us to Indians. Then i don't need to take your opinion seriously.

Hey, watch your mouth. You can disagree with him without using such aggressive language.

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[Hadouken]

(3). The South Asian admixture in Iran is around 16 to 20% which is very significant in comparison to other MENA peoples.

wrong

12-14 % or so on average

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[arkas]

(1) More Iberians, Southern Italians and Greeks can pass in Turkey and the Levant than in Scandinavia.

(2) More Burmese and Malaysians can pass in Bangladesh, Nepal and Northeast India than in Japan and Korea.

(3) More Pakistanis and NW Indians can pass in Iran and Afghanistan than in Sri Lanka and the Maldives.

(1) Yes, but I don't see it as controversial, I think that it's obvious and Turkey is in large part a Meditteranean country with many having ancestry from the Balkans and Anatolian Greeks. A lot of the lighter Greeks and Italians don't pass in Scandanavia already though, imo.

(2) Yes and no, yes with Burmese passing in most of North East India but not so much other regions and I'm not too sure about Malays. Some of NE Indian and especially Nepalis have more Tibetan influence which really looks different to Malay and Burmese people imo, so they don't pass well in either regions.

(3) I am not sure.

[Sikeliot]

1. In terms of passing in the most basic way, yes. However, I would argue that apart from Sicily/Calabria and Malta, and probably Dodecanese islands, very few Iberians/Italians/Greeks actually LOOK Levantine.

2. Agree.

3. Disagree.

[Rgvgjhvv]

1. Agree
2. Agree x1 million
3. Disagree

[CommonSense]

1. Strongly agree
2. Not knowledgable enough to answer, sorry
3. Disagree

[Tooting Carmen]

1. In terms of passing in the most basic way, yes. However, I would argue that apart from Sicily/Calabria and Malta, and probably Dodecanese islands, very few Iberians/Italians/Greeks actually LOOK Levantine.

2. Agree.

3. Disagree.

(1) Granted, but still more people from those groups (plus also maybe Albanians and even a minority of Balkan Slavs and Romanians, for that matter) could pass at least atypically in the Levant than in Scandinavia.

(2) Fine.

(3) Do you honestly think that Pakistanis overlap more with Sri Lankans than with their Iranian and Afghan neighbours, especially considering the shared ethnic groups like Pashtuns and Balochis?

[lameduck]

(1) Granted, but still more people from those groups (plus also maybe Albanians and even a minority of Balkan Slavs and Romanians, for that matter) could pass at least atypically in the Levant than in Scandinavia.

(2) Fine.

(3) Do you honestly think that Pakistanis overlap more with Sri Lankans than with their Iranian and Afghan neighbours, especially considering the shared ethnic groups like Pashtuns and Balochis?

tbh with you iranians are even out of questions , they are too MENA looking for Pakistanis to pass among them. East Afghanistan Yes there is a link but I would say even there are differences. A light Pakistani man I havent seen iranian and even Afghans looking like him he looks distinctively from North Pakistan.

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2018/03/5ab31c7634625.jpg

[The Blade]

Disagree with 3.
Partly agree with 1 (I find it true for Southern Italians, not so much for Greeks and wrong about Iberians).
Will refrain from commenting 2.

[Hadouken]

tbh with you iranians are even out of questions , they are too MENA looking for Pakistanis to pass among them. East Afghanistan Yes there is a link but I would say even there are differences. A light Pakistani man I havent seen iranian and even Afghans looking like him he looks distinctively from North Pakistan.

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2018/03/5ab31c7634625.jpg

but pakistanis love iran :)

https://i.postimg.cc/FzHjQc28/pak.jpg

[lameduck]

but pakistanis love iran :)

https://i.postimg.cc/FzHjQc28/pak.jpg

So, its just for religious reasons. I can show you tons of video from Pakistan where people from Turkey, iran , Algeria , Syria , Saudia arab are saying love Pakistan

[Hadouken]

So, its just for religious reasons. I can show you tons of video from Pakistan where people from Turkey, iran , Algeria , Syria , Saudia arab are saying love Pakistan

of course . we all love each other <3

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[LawrenceMartinez]

(1) More Iberians, Southern Italians and Greeks can pass in Turkey and the Levant than in Scandinavia.

Iberians, Southern Italians, Greeks, Turks and Levantines are all predominantely mediterraneans, while Scandinavia is mostly Nordic and Baltic. This statement is not controversial at all.

[Tooting Carmen]

Iberians, Southern Italians, Greeks, Turks and Levantines are all predominantely mediterraneans, while Scandinavia is mostly Nordic and Baltic. This statement is not controversial at all.

Believe me, in the context of fora such as this one, it is.

[FinalFlash]

1. Turkey, yes. The Levant, maybe.
2. Agree
3. This, imo is far and away more nonsensical than number 1.

[Joliemome]

I don't find these statements controversial at all, just stupid.

Is this really all that's on your my mind 24/7?
These people, who are not even fully Europeans, have nothing better to do in life than interrogating themselves and others about the race of Southern Europeans LOL

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[Marinus]

Yes to no. 1 and 3, unsure about no. 2, but leaning towards yes.

[Dna8]

In order of the strength of my agreement, strongest first: 3, 2, 1.

[Cernunnos]

Agree about the first one, don't really know about the other 2.

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