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Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 06:11 AM
He is a Russian rapper of Tatar and Jewish descent. It's interesting how such mixes can create exotic looks. He can pass almost everywhere in Latin America accoridng to another thread I made along with another Rapper. Does he look more North African or Arabian?

https://i.imgur.com/D9pJb4R.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ei8dDSS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/REMrrIT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1QcIx80.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tN8aUvv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/symtKwO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Q9degIS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0ybEsOu.png

https://i.imgur.com/K5gOjEN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cFq9aFa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LLaTsf8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/e29Ypnz.png

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 06:30 AM
Bump.

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 10:01 AM
No one? I thought you people love talking about MENA type of threads.

arkas
10-18-2018, 10:18 AM
He doesn't look super typical for a MENA in Australia, many here are Lebanese or Syrian and look different imo.

To me, he kind of looks more North African, he is not what I would expect a half Tatar Jew to look like but in the last pic, maybe because of his hat, I can see Jewish.

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 10:25 AM
He doesn't look super typical for a MENA in Australia, many here are Lebanese or Syrian and look different imo.

To me, he kind of looks more North African, he is not what I would expect a half Tatar Jew to look like but in the last pic, maybe because of his hat, I can see Jewish.

How common are North Africans in Australia? Would be he mistaken as Moroccan or Egyptian there even by one of the North Africans themselves?

His Jewish side must be predominantly MENA genetically for him to end up looking like that. He looks so exotic that he can easily pass as a local almost anywhere in Latin America lol.

YunusEmre
10-18-2018, 11:19 AM
Middle East - no.
Latin America - yes.

He looks part Mestizo.

arkas
10-18-2018, 11:22 AM
How common are North Africans in Australia? Would be he mistaken as Moroccan or Egyptian there even by one of the North Africans themselves?

His Jewish side must be predominantly MENA genetically for him to end up looking like that. He looks so exotic that he can easily pass as a local almost anywhere in Latin America lol.

Very uncommon, I have met one Egyptian in Australia and that is it.

Yeah I agree, people in Australia might think he looks Latin American as well, there are some in Australia and they are more prominent than North Africans.

Astarte
10-18-2018, 11:40 AM
He looks South Asian.

Benyzero
10-18-2018, 11:48 AM
He looks slightly ssa admixed. would pass as light skin african american

CommonSense
10-18-2018, 01:00 PM
He can pass as a North African or an Afro-Latino. Doesn't look like either of the ethnicities he's descended from.

Fibonacci
10-18-2018, 01:40 PM
Looks SSA, could pass in suadi arabia and yemen

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 01:57 PM
He can pass as a North African or an Afro-Latino. Doesn't look like either of the ethnicities he's descended from.

Agree. Its very strange that he end up looking like this. Maybe his Jewish side is predominantly Middle Eastern genetically with SSA or something. (Even tho Jews generally have very minor to none Negroid admix)

Can he pass as some type of Gypsy?

Kamal900
10-18-2018, 02:00 PM
Looks North African or something. Not something I'd see among Levantines or other middle easterners.

Tauromachos
10-18-2018, 02:04 PM
He looks very ethnic

Thats all i can say

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 02:13 PM
Looks North African or something. Not something I'd see among Levantines or other middle easterners.

Does he look more Maghrebi or Egyptian? How typical is his look in North Africa? Would he get mistaken as a local in places like Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt?

CommonSense
10-18-2018, 02:16 PM
Agree. Its very strange that he end up looking like this. Maybe his Jewish side is predominantly Middle Eastern genetically with SSA or something. (Even tho Jews generally have very minor to none Negroid admix)

Can he pass as some type of Gypsy?

He can't pass as a Gypsy, they don't have any African features. I think he certainly must have some other ancestry he doesn't wish to declare or perhaps he isn't aware of it at all.

CommonSense
10-18-2018, 02:20 PM
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Tauromachos
10-18-2018, 02:20 PM
Agree. Its very strange that he end up looking like this. Maybe his Jewish side is predominantly Middle Eastern genetically with SSA or something. (Even tho Jews generally have very minor to none Negroid admix)

Can he pass as some type of Gypsy?

Some Jews can look exotic and insular arabic type like not only Mizraim

Not saying its the norm for them to do

Kamal900
10-18-2018, 02:26 PM
Does he look more Maghrebi or Egyptian? How typical is his look in North Africa? Would he get mistaken as a local in places like Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt?

More as Maghrebi than Egyptian.

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 02:34 PM
More as Maghrebi than Egyptian.

Where in Maghreb is his look the most common? What is difference in features between Maghrebis and Egyptians?

Can he pass as an atypical Arabian?

Maguzanci
10-18-2018, 02:38 PM
More as Maghrebi than Egyptian.

Where in Maghreb is his look the most common? What is difference in features between Maghrebis and Egyptians?

Can he pass as an atypical Arabian?

happycow
10-18-2018, 06:44 PM
He does have a little bit of MENA features, but he doesn't give me an arabian or levantine vibe. AS others said I think he could maybe pass in North Africa. But even then the guy looks very Latin American.

Hadouken
10-18-2018, 06:45 PM
not as my ethnicity

Zroota
10-18-2018, 11:27 PM
Maybe as a North African (Egyptian). Don't see him as Middle Eastern looking.

Haider
10-18-2018, 11:37 PM
He must be Bukarian or Mizrahi who are predominantly Mesopotamian genetically, which gives him his colouring, while the Tatar side gives him the flat/broad pseudo African features.

rein
10-18-2018, 11:41 PM
No, only as Jewish.

Maguzanci
10-19-2018, 02:09 AM
Maybe as a North African (Egyptian). Don't see him as Middle Eastern looking.

What about Maghrebi?

Maguzanci
10-19-2018, 02:10 AM
He must be Bukarian or Mizrahi who are predominantly Mesopotamian genetically, which gives him his colouring, while the Tatar side gives him the flat/broad pseudo African features.

Well his maternal side is a Russian Jew and according to Wikipedia:

The largest group among Russian Jews are Ashkenazi Jews, but the community also includes a significant number of other Diasporan Jewish groups, such as Mountain Jews, Sephardic Jews, Crimean Karaites, Krymchaks, Bukharan Jews, and Georgian Jews.

It is likely that his Jewish side is Ashkenazi but there are also other groups like Bukharan, Sephardic, Mountain Jews as well. So your suggestion about his Jewish side being Bukharian or Mizrahi is very possible. Actually I think it is also his Jewish side that give him flat pseudo African features because Tatars are usually very European looking.

Maguzanci
10-19-2018, 02:22 AM
No, only as Jewish.

Would ppl think he is Jewish if he goes to MENA?

Smeagol
10-19-2018, 02:34 AM
Would not pass as Ashkenazi so probably a descendant of one of Russia's other types of jews.

Iloko
10-19-2018, 03:02 AM
I think he could pass somewhere in the Middle East though I am not really sure where exactly I would place him there. But to me he looks more like a tri-racial Latino in general.

NSXD60
10-19-2018, 06:37 AM
He wouldn't pass as anything but a Nigg in the states.

Magnet
10-19-2018, 07:22 AM
Well his maternal side is a Russian Jew and according to Wikipedia:


It is likely that his Jewish side is Ashkenazi but there are also other groups like Bukharan, Sephardic, Mountain Jews as well. So your suggestion about his Jewish side being Bukharian or Mizrahi is very possible. Actually I think it is also his Jewish side that give him flat pseudo African features because Tatars are usually very European looking.

Not at all. His father looks like a darker east asian:

https://24smi.org/public/media/235x307/celebrity/2018/03/23/9kmeij8a5zfx-ildar-iunusov.jpg

Maguzanci
10-19-2018, 07:58 AM
Not at all. His father looks like a darker east asian:

https://24smi.org/public/media/235x307/celebrity/2018/03/23/9kmeij8a5zfx-ildar-iunusov.jpg

Really? I don't see it.

Magnet
10-19-2018, 08:16 AM
Really? I don't see it.

Only a few Tatars look European. But his jewish mother is also "dark". Looks kinda Assyrian to me:

https://24smi.org/public/media/2018/8/14/101_u7CV9Mv.jpg

https://24smi.org/public/media/2018/8/14/102_91kO5T9.jpg

Maguzanci
10-19-2018, 08:20 AM
Only a few Tatars look European. But his jewish mother is also "dark". Looks kinda Assyrian to me:

https://24smi.org/public/media/2018/8/14/101_u7CV9Mv.jpg

https://24smi.org/public/media/2018/8/14/102_91kO5T9.jpg

Do you think he got his very ethnik pseudo Latino or North African features from his dad, his mom or both?

Magnet
10-19-2018, 08:23 AM
Do you think he got his very ethnik pseudo Latino or North African features from his dad, his mom or both?

I would say it is their combination of dark Semitic and dark East/Central-Asia feautures that creates that look. He took after both is parents:

http://fb.ru/misc/i/gallery/29398/635884.jpg

That said, I don't think he looks black at all because he seems very hairy (almost unibrow)

Magnet
10-19-2018, 08:39 AM
I am thinking if he could pass as Roma, but I am not sure.
Otherwise Tri-racial Latino would be my best bet

Papastratosels26
10-19-2018, 10:24 AM
He can pass in MENA countries easy.

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Seth MacFarlane
10-19-2018, 12:37 PM
he could pass in north africa but he looks more latin american, because of the mongaloid of his father.