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Bloodeagle
04-20-2011, 03:59 PM
Classic kids games like kickball deemed unsafe by state in effort to increase summer camp regulation

BY Glenn Blain (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors/Glenn%20Blain)
DAILY NEWS ALBANY BUREAU
Tuesday, April 19th 2011, 4:00 AM

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State bureaucrats have created a list of 'risky activities' for kids at summer camp. The list includes freeze tag, Wiffle Ball and kickball, among other games and activities.


ALBANY (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Albany) - State bureaucrats have identified a potentially deadly hazard facing our children this summer - freeze tag.
That's right, officials have decided the age-old street game - along with Wiffle Ball, kickball and dodgeball - poses a "significant risk of injury."
And classics like Capture the Flag, Steal the Bacon and Red Rover are also deemed dangerous in new state regulations for day camps.
"It looks like Albany bureaucrats are looking for kids to just sit in a corner in a house all day and not be outside," said state Sen. Patty Ritchie (R-St. Lawrence County (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/St.+Lawrence+County)).
"I don't think Wiffle Ball is a dangerous sport."
The Health Department created a list of supposedly risky recreational activities - which also includes more perilous pursuits like archery, scuba and horseback riding - in response to a state law passed in 2009.
The law sought to close a loophole that legislators said allowed too many indoor camp programs to operate without oversight.
Under the new rules, any program that offers two or more organized recreational activities - with at least one of them on the risky list - is deemed a summer camp and subject to state regulation.
Ritchie said the regulations could cripple small recreational programs, forcing them to pay a $200 fee to register as a summer camp and provide medical staff.
And many parents felt like state officials were being, well, wimpy.
Kimberly Baxter (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Kimberly+Baxter), 27, a medical assistant from South Ozone Park (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/South+Ozone+Park), Queens, said she played freeze tag with abandon as a youngster.
"I never got hurt, maybe scraped my knee once in a while but that was it," said Baxter, mom to a 1-year-old girl.
Deborah Graham (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Deborah+Graham), 51, a mother of two from Harlem (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Harlem), said moving around was less harmful than playing video games all summer.
"You could develop Carpal Tunnel Syndrome," she said. "And when (kids) eat, eat, and eat, they get diabetes. That's dangerous."
The state Camp Directors Association (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Camp+Directors+Association) backed the 2009 law, and Health Department spokeswoman Diane Mathis (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Diane+Mathis) said the list of risky activities was crafted with help from camp groups.
She said the list - which labeled Frisbee (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Frisbee), tug of war and sack races as safe - was offered only as "guidance" to local governments and organization.
She stressed that not every program will need to hire medical staff. Some simply need to have a plan in place to deal with medical emergencies.
"There will be flexibility in how the law is implemented," Mathis said.
Susan Craig (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Susan+Craig), a spokeswoman for the city Health Department, said the new law is not expected to have much impact since most city programs already meet the state requirements.
While many New Yorkers scoffed at the idea of tag leading to traumatic brain or spinal injury, Bronx (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/The+Bronx) resident Kim Wainwright (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Kim+Wainwright) said it's better to be safe than sorry.
"Kids these days are kinda brutal so I can see those games being dangerous," said Wainwright, who has a 5-year-old. "I agree with it."

Odoacer
04-20-2011, 05:34 PM
To think I played Cowboys & Indians as a boy, with toy guns! I don't know how I ever managed to survive.

SwordoftheVistula
04-21-2011, 10:43 AM
I suppose my childhood favorites Tackle Football, Smear the Queer and British Bulldogs have been banned long ago, as I do not see them listed here.

Hess
04-21-2011, 11:01 AM
I suppose my childhood favorites Tackle Football, Smear the Queer and British Bulldogs have been banned long ago, as I do not see them listed here.

If you play "smear the queer" in today's America, you are likely to be publicly flogged and forced to apologize to the whole gay community.

Grumpy Cat
04-21-2011, 02:15 PM
No wonder kids are getting fat, if they're banning games that require psyhical activity. :rolleyes:

Beorn
04-21-2011, 02:27 PM
This is good news. The next step is to ban black kids. Those little fuckers are dangerous.


I suppose my childhood favorites Tackle Football, Smear the Queer and British Bulldogs have been banned long ago, as I do not see them listed here.

British Bulldog was for girls. We played 'Hack Down Bulldog'.

Falkata
04-21-2011, 03:34 PM
What a generation of faggots

Grumpy Cat
04-21-2011, 03:52 PM
What a generation of faggots

I know. It's a part of growing up to get injured playing childhood games.

I fear what these kids will be like when they grow up. They will have no capability of dealing with hurt in the real world, because of all this protection and self-esteem lifting programs.

You're already seeing the effects of the self-esteem crap, it's created a generation of arrogant, inconsiderate pricks (case in point, our most recently banned member probably got told he was special too many times by his teacher and got too many gold stars even though he failed). You can't deal with them, and you certainly can't work with them. I'd like to reopen Auschwitz and push them in the chamber, personally.

It will be the collapse of Western civilization.

Oh well, there's hope: What do Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, and all the insanely rich and successful people have in common? They were all bullied as kids. They will be our hope, since they have experience with having their self-esteem shattered in their childhood so they are better equipped to deal with hurt in the real world... they pull themselves back up and move on - while the others commit suicide when they get a bad performance review.

Blossom
04-21-2011, 04:03 PM
Bah...I got my first skates at the age of 4...first thing I did was take 'em and go outside by my own and try 'em. I learned how to skate all by myself, I didnt want to use protection, I got my knees all ragged, blisters, pus..but never cried cuz I loved skating. While I was enjoying evenings outside till late, the other kids were yelling to their parents to get a pair of skates, woah, I felt so cool :D ,..I was even proud of my blisters! Now, 17 years later, I enjoy skating without any protection while hockey training on street (summers)..and I do like running the risks of this nice and short life!

Grumpy Cat
04-21-2011, 04:12 PM
When I was a kid, I'd be on the beach in the summer from sun-up to sundown. Now, parents are afraid to let their kids out in the sun, because God forbid they get a burn!

Now I rarely burn, but one summer I got a burn on my face so bad when I was a kid that my cheeks actually started bleeding. Now you see kids on the beach pretty much wearing burqas. Sunburns are not that bad people, and a nice tan will never hurt anybody!

Oh yes, and I used to play kickball, stickball, lee-locker, freeze-tag, and other games with my friends. I had some really interesting injuries as well. One time I was playing with a Nerf Bow and Arrow (remember those?) and I fell. The end of the bow went right in my eye socket, around my eye. I was lucky it didn't go in my eye (or my brain, for that matter). Hurt like hell, I can tell you that much.

But injuries are a part of growing up.

We were only allowed to play video games (which was old school epileptic seizure inducing Nintendo back then) when it was raining out, and in my house we only had two channels... not that I wanted to watch TV anyways, I'd have rather been outside.

I also drank a lot of those sugary drinks that they're trying to ban when I was a kid. Did they make me fat? No! Did they make any of my friends fat? No... because we burned off the calories playing these games!

Bloodeagle
04-22-2011, 03:49 AM
I will have to admit that when I was a kid, the above listed games that we played at school, were considered safe, team work building, ego developing tools, that would carry over into later life. :)
After school was over for the day, the fun and dangerous games began. My friends and I would battle it out with the kids down the street. Each team had its own fort, ours was in a large orange tree and theirs was hallowed out of and under a large juniper hedge.
We practiced a dangerous form of capture the flag that involved tossing rocks, dirt clods, bottles and whipping each other with sticks - none of which was allowed by our parents but we didn't really care!
The previous days winner would get to chose the name of each team, most of the time the loser became the Japs, or Germans for the day as we recreated our grandfathers war.
I'm amazed no one was ever seriously hurt, just butt hurt and called a fag for getting hurt. :p

Grumpy Cat
04-22-2011, 04:25 AM
Did you guys play "Bottoms Up" in the US?

The boys used to play it here. I used to feel sorry for the boys, because when it was their time to go up to the wall, the kids would always aim at their nuts. :lol:

I'm surprised any of them are capable of reproducing now.

Bloodeagle
04-22-2011, 04:42 AM
Did you guys play "Bottoms Up" in the US?

The boys used to play it here. I used to feel sorry for the boys, because when it was their time to go up to the wall, the kids would always aim at their nuts. :lol:

I'm surprised any of them are capable of reproducing now.

No, I never played that one. :D

SwordoftheVistula
04-22-2011, 08:48 AM
Did you guys play "Bottoms Up" in the US?

The boys used to play it here. I used to feel sorry for the boys, because when it was their time to go up to the wall, the kids would always aim at their nuts. :lol:

I'm surprised any of them are capable of reproducing now.

We didn't have that in my area when growing up, but I think I played it in college. Some game where you have to run and tag the wall, or else you have to stand against the wall and someone throws a ball at you? We used to play something like this in the basement of my college dorm, until one day I took a flying leap at the wall and knocked a giant hole in it. I then used my position as editor of the dorm newspaper to attack the facilities department for overcharging me, which caused a huge shitstorm. I don't remember the actual rules of the game, but it's probably the one you're talking about. And yes, we always did aim at the nuts naturally :thumb001: