Classify Marlène Jobert + where passes

[Sp_loa]

Eva Green's mother. Born in Algiers, Algeria to a Sephardic Jewish family. Honestly I see nothing jewish in her, I'm not sure if she can even pass as Iberian (European origins of Sephardi). She looks NW European to me.

https://cache.marieclaire.fr/data/photo/w1000_ci/1bi/marlene-jobert1.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/f7/d2/82f7d29aaef83529f76be7a6d6318f7c.jpg

https://www.babelio.com/users/AVT_Marlene-Jobert_8217.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/5d/bd/2c5dbd20210c87893e5b3ad13c6e8041.jpg

[Sp_loa]

https://photo.ivid.it/media/foto/1900/01/01/segreto_marlene_jobert_6d0f7.jpg

Not even a Jewish nose

[Papastratosels26]

She doesn't look Jewish

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[Sp_loa]

She doesn't look Jewish

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She's North African Jewish (Algerian Jewish). Typical person to that Ancestry should be 40% levantine, 40% Iberian and 20% Berber.
Does she look Iberian? that would explain if she took after the European side.

[Sp_loa]

I think she looks ethnic French/UK maybe Germany as well to some extent.

[The Blade]

Nordocromagnid range:
https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/174/211/54190/format_page/media.jpg
Can pass everywhere in Europe to one or another extent.

[CommonSense]

Reduced Cromagnid type. Who knows, she might have some French ancestry, considering she is from Algeria.

[Sp_loa]

Nordocromagnid range:
https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/174/211/54190/format_page/media.jpg
Can pass everywhere in Europe to one or another extent.

I thought my grandma family are atypically European for sephardim but this is a new record of whitness for a North African Jewish. I'm just Shocked.

[Sp_loa]

Reduced Cromagnid type. Who knows, she might have some French ancestry, considering she is from Algeria.

Possible, but she is Jewish and Jews lived in close communities (La juderia) and North African Jews were very orthodox and wouldn't mix with gentiles that easily. As much as I know Eva, her daughter took a DNA test, and she has Iberian and Turkish blood, probably from the Jewish side. The thing is- she doesn't even look Iberian.

[Jana]

She does look French to me. Alpinized Keltic Nordic.

[Sp_loa]

She does look French to me. Alpinized Keltic Nordic.

But the thing is she is Algerian Jewish, not ethnically French. How come a mix of Iberian,Berber and levantine looks that much Northern European.

[Warmian]

Leptorrhine/mesorrhine progressive with only a hint of reduced nordocromag with moderate orbit (no lower than a lot of modern euro meds), quite gracilized.

Somebody is lying about her ancestry.

She’s subnordid and most of you should stop trying to classify.

[Jana]

But the thing is she is Algerian Jewish, not ethnically French. How come a mix of Iberian,Berber and levantine looks that much Northern European.

Celtic blood via Iberia or even Vandal :D
Or ancient Levantine / Judean admix. king David was a redhead and interestingly in Bosnia Sephardics are stereotyped as redheads!

[The Blade]

On her origins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marl%C3%A8ne_Jobert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir
Turns out to be mainly real French after all.

[Sp_loa]

Celtic blood via Iberia or even Vandal :D
Or ancient Levantine / Judean admix. king David was a redhead and interestingly in Bosnia Sephardics are stereotyped as redheads!

Among Samaritans (only survivors to the kingdom of Israel) red hair is more common than among Ashkenazi Jews and they have high frequencies (relatively) of Blue eyes and Blonde hair, probably original Judeans were like this too, and still, while some Samaritans can pass as light Southern Europeans, her facial features are completely NW European.
Maybe indeed Celto-berians or Visigoths. Mystery. I mean you saw my dad cousin that is Moroccan Jewish and looks Irish/German, it does happen, but I still wonder why.
In my granma family they look European but if french then Alpines and not Nordids.

[Sp_loa]

On her origins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marl%C3%A8ne_Jobert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir
Turns out to be mainly real French after all.

"The term sometimes also includes the pre-existing North African Jews who had been living there prior to French colonization, whether Ladino-speaking Sephardi Jews who had arrived after the expulsion from Sepharad (Spain and Portugal) several centuries earlier in 1492 or even earlier Berber-speaking and/or Arabic-speaking Maghrebi Jews who had been residing there for over a thousand years"

Very unlikely that a borned Algeria Jewish would be partially gentile.

[Tchek]

She is pied-noir, meaning relocated French people in North Africa during French rule. Father was ethnic French from the military while her mother was sepharadi

[Sp_loa]

She is pied-noir, meaning relocated French people in North Africa during French rule. Father was ethnic French from the military while her mother was sepharadi

Sephardi were considered to be pied-Noir

[Sp_loa]

"was born in Algeria, of Sephardi Jewish background (considered to be Pied-Noir), with roots in Birkhadem"
http://ethnicelebs.com/eva-green - According to this Eva's mother is full Sephardic= Marlène Jobert is full Sephardic.

[Warmian]

"was born in Algeria, of Sephardi Jewish background (considered to be Pied-Noir), with roots in Birkhadem"
http://ethnicelebs.com/eva-green - According to this Eva's mother is full Sephardic= Marlène Jobert is full Sephardic.

Nobody is full Sephardic and Sephardic doesn’t even mean Spanish Jew anymore. Effectively the term is used to mean any “white jew” that isn’t Ashkenazi. There are Sephardi (from) all over Europe, including England, Denmark, Greece and France. Almost none are “full” anything. Most are mixed with whites.

From wikipedia:

More broadly, the term Sephardim has today also come sometimes to refer to traditionally Eastern Jewish communities of West Asia and beyond who, although not having genealogical roots in the Jewish communities of Iberia, have adopted a Sephardic style of liturgy and Sephardic law and customs imparted to them by the Iberian Jewish exiles over the course of the last few centuries.

Today it is more a designation of following Jewish religious practices not related to Ashkenazim, Mizrahim or Hasidim.

[Sp_loa]

Nobody is full Sephardic and Sephardic doesn’t even mean Spanish Jew anymore. Effectively the term is used to mean any “white jew” that isn’t Ashkenazi. There are Sephardi (from) all over Europe, including England, Denmark, Greece and France. Almost none are “full” anything. Most are mixed with whites.

From wikipedia:

More broadly, the term Sephardim has today also come sometimes to refer to traditionally Eastern Jewish communities of West Asia and beyond who, although not having genealogical roots in the Jewish communities of Iberia, have adopted a Sephardic style of liturgy and Sephardic law and customs imparted to them by the Iberian Jewish exiles over the course of the last few centuries.

The sephardim proper are descendants of the Iberian Jews that were expelled in the 15th century and went to Ottoman Balkans, NW Euorpe (France, netherlands, denmark, england..), latin America and North-West Africa.

The broad definition includes Mizrahi Jews as a Sephardim.

Anyway there is a genetic mark for every group of Sephardim proper.
In the case of algerian Jews (like marlene) the typical genetics is 40% European (usually Iberian), 20% Berber and 40% levantine.
Some North African Jews do look like her, but it’s rather rare. I guess recessive genes or so. Maybe she does have French ancestry but ahe doesn’t know about it (rape, affair ect) and maybe the Spanish genes were light enough.

[Warmian]

The sephardim proper are descendants of the Iberian Jews that were expelled in the 15th century and went to Ottoman Balkans, NW Euorpe (France, netherlands, denmark, england..), latin America and North-West Africa.

The broad definition includes Mizrahi Jews as a Sephardim.

Anyway there is a genetic mark for every group of Sephardim proper.
In the case of algerian Jews (like marlene) the typical genetics is 40% European (usually Iberian), 20% Berber and 40% levantine.
Some North African Jews do look like her, but it’s rather rare. I guess recessive genes or so. Maybe she does have French ancestry but ahe doesn’t know about it (rape, affair ect) and maybe the Spanish genes were light enough.

My point remains, “full Sephardim” is meaningless in any 21st century context.

[kiko]

Kelto-Brunn + Alpine

[Sp_loa]

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[Sp_loa]

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[Kamal900]

Nothing Jewish about her at all. She looks very French to me.

[Sp_loa]

Nothing Jewish about her at all. She looks very French to me.

I know but I checked it and she should be 100% Algerian Jewish.

[Kamal900]

I know but I checked it and she should be 100% Algerian Jewish.

Mashallah.

[DontFxxkWithWendy]

Possible, but she is Jewish and Jews lived in close communities (La juderia) and North African Jews were very orthodox and wouldn't mix with gentiles that easily. As much as I know Eva, her daughter took a DNA test, and she has Iberian and Turkish blood, probably from the Jewish side. The thing is- she doesn't even look Iberian.

Wait, you’ve met Eva Green before? I’m jealous...

[DontFxxkWithWendy]

And Marlene Jobert looks Celtic, honestly.