classify some iraqis

[Hadouken]

why are iraqis so exotic ? it is interesting imo

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/US_Navy_030408-N-5362A-014_Iraqis_share_a_laugh_with_a_U.S._Army_Speciali st_Michael_Toro_during_an_effort_to_distribute_foo d_and_water_to_Iraqi_citizens_in_need.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/US_Navy_030408-N-5362A-015_Iraqis_share_a_laugh_with_a_U.S._Army_Speciali st_Michael_Toro_during_an_effort_to_distribute_foo d_and_water_to_Iraqi_citizens_in_need.jpg
https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4633439/479210447.jpg
http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/DSC_0037-cropped-main.jpg
https://bxpnyc.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/fb_laughing_iraqi_men_2004_111_1186.jpg
https://cdn10.picryl.com/photo/2004/03/24/these-local-iraqi-men-posing-for-a-photograph-with-a-motorcycle-with-a-sidecar-fd578f-1600.jpg
https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/03/05/21/35-iraq-cleric-ap.jpg?w968h681
http://archive.defense.gov/DODCMSShare/NewsStoryPhoto/2008-08/hrs_080801-A-5510S-042a.jpg
https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg

[Nazarene]

why are iraqis so exotic ? it is interesting imo

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4633439/479210447.jpg
http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/DSC_0037-cropped-main.jpg
https://bxpnyc.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/fb_laughing_iraqi_men_2004_111_1186.jpg
https://cdn10.picryl.com/photo/2004/03/24/these-local-iraqi-men-posing-for-a-photograph-with-a-motorcycle-with-a-sidecar-fd578f-1600.jpg
https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/03/05/21/35-iraq-cleric-ap.jpg?w968h681
http://archive.defense.gov/DODCMSShare/NewsStoryPhoto/2008-08/hrs_080801-A-5510S-042a.jpg
https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg

Because the Iraqi Arabs are nearly all mixed with a lot of different Muslim populations.

[Hadouken]

Because the Iraqi Arabs are nearly all mixed with a lot of different Muslim populations.

iraqi arabs look very different from assyrians in the north (and kurds too) . it is a pretty big contrast which is amazing

[Nazarene]

iraqi arabs look very different from assyrians in the north (and kurds too) . it is a pretty big contrast which is amazing

Agreed, we and Kurds look quite significantly different to Iraqi Arabs. The Iraqi Arabs in Mosul however look kind of similar to other Northern populations because of their admixture, but even then they don't resemble a certain group. Iraq is very diverse, so it is expected.

[Warmian]

I see lots of Asian Alpinoid and Armenoid with Arabid/East Med/Iranid influences.

This is our glorious future friends, I for one welcome our greasy backwater inbred overlords.

[Hadouken]

Agreed, we and Kurds look quite significantly different to Iraqi Arabs. The Iraqi Arabs in Mosul however look kind of similar to other Northern populations because of their admixture, but even then they don't resemble a certain group. Iraq is very diverse, so it is expected.

some iraqi kurds seem to have some iraqi arab admix . I saw them scoring them a lot more arab than us in some tests . it is one of the reasons why iraqi kurds are more exotic than turkey kurds

these iraqi arabs ...99% of them would never pass among us in turkey

[Nazarene]

some iraqi kurds seem to have some iraqi arab admix . I saw them scoring them a lot more arab than us in some tests . it is one of the reasons why iraqi kurds are more exotic than turkey kurds

these iraqi arabs ...99% of them would never pass among us in turkey

Oh wow I didn't know that Iraqi Kurds mixed with Iraqi Arabs to that degree. Having looked at the threads that you've posted containing photos of Turkish Kurds, I honestly was surprised at how much lighter they are than Iraqi Kurds. Not that all Iraqi Kurds are dark, but the Turkish ones seem to look more Anatolian.

[lameduck]

tbh with proper gromming they will look less extotic , I was watching a video from Baghdad and most people look regular levantine to me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbMPjT5YKUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1Up0G1104

[Hadouken]

Oh wow I didn't know that Iraqi Kurds mixed with Iraqi Arabs to that degree. Having looked at the threads that you've posted containing photos of Turkish Kurds, I honestly was surprised at how much lighter they are than Iraqi Kurds. Not that all Iraqi Kurds are dark, but the Turkish ones seem to look more Anatolian.

I have seen iraqi kurds that look "normal kurdish" too and they can pass among us but I also saw many iraqi kurds who look very foreign to me

and I saw 2 iraqi kurdish samples from gencove , geneplaza etc. and they scored a lot more arab than me (I scored only 2-5% but they scored 15% or maybe even more I dont remember)

[Hadouken]

tbh with proper gromming they will look less extotic ,



nah . not them lol

some iraqis do not look like that of course . we have an iraqi member here who doesnt look like the men I posted

[Hadouken]

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/AC5H63/iraq-basra-2005-a-man-in-a-turban-basra-AC5H63.jpg

[lameduck]

I think they are just more diverse than other Northern West Asians(who are rather homogenous) because of admixtures/weather and being a war torn country doesnt help.

[Zroota]

They are likely to be heavily Arabian with some Turkic and ancient Assyrian admixture. The guys in your second pic exemplify that look.

[Magnet]

Because the Iraqi Arabs are nearly all mixed with a lot of different Muslim populations.

+1

People here claim iraqi arabs are part assyrian, which seem very unlikely if you know Assyrians/Syriacs they are the most islamophobic people on earth lol. But results show they are mixed with Kurds, Turkmens etc.

I don't claim that these groups are that exotic, but at least they aren't white, and if you mix people they can get very "exotic" and diverse looks:



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/20/24E28BB700000578-2918956-image-a-1_1421797699003.jpg

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01964/PD46040917_2062162_1964201b.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Because the majority of Iraqi Arabs are descendants of Bedouin tribes. Some of these Bedouin tribes converted to Shia Islam in the 19th century due to Lebanese and Persian Shia missionaries. This lead to clan fighting, and some of them moved all the way north. Also Iraq was depopulated by the Mongol invasion, and the population was revived by incoming Arabian tribes. Some of the Bedouin tribes that did not settle and continued to follow their culture, never adopted Shiaism and were hostile to it, and they are to this day, many of them settled in the West and north, and they still keep clan/relations to the Arabian peninsula. So that's your answer.

Of course there was some Persian or I should say Turko-Persian settlers but their influence was minimal.

[Hadouken]

Because the majority of Iraqi Arabs are descendants of Bedouin tribes. Some of these Bedouin tribes converted to Shia Islam in the 19th century due to Lebanese and Persian Shia missionaries. This lead to clan fighting, and some of them moved all the way north. Also Iraq was depopulated by the Mongol invasion, and the population was revived by incoming Arabian tribes. Some of the Bedouin tribes that did not settle and continued to follow their culture, never adopted Shiaism and were hostile to it, and they are to this day, many of them settled in the West and north, and they still keep clan/relations to the Arabian peninsula. So that's your answer.

Of course there was some Persian or I should say Turko-Persian settlers but their influence was minimal.

how much of iraqi arabs are shia ? and do they follow the ahlulbayt ?

[lameduck]

interviews of Iraqi Students

many remind me of my syrian friends


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFN2EsMhHg0

[Borealis]

Many of them have substantial(but afaik not pure) Arabian mixture, particularly those from the south. They also have minor African from slave trade days. But you also have to keep in mind that Iraq is VERY hot and sandy. It’s overall climate is more like Saudi than it is like Iran, Syria, or Turkey so it would be no surprise that people living there will support deep tans almost regardless of their ethnic mixture. Of course you have some groups like Assyrians that are still noticeably lighter than the Arabs, but the Arabs too would likely be fairer if they moved to western countries. At least from what I’ve seen.

[StonyArabia]

how much of iraqi arabs are shia ? and do they follow the ahlulbayt ?

Around 40% to 60% are Shia the rest are Sunni, and very more common in the West and North. Yes they do they follow the 12 Imams, as they believe that Ali should have taken the Caliphate, instead of the others, since he was the cousin and in law. Thus their Imam's lineage start from Ali and ends all the way to the Imam Mahadi whom they believe he is hidden, but will return. Most of them adopted Shiaism quite recently when the Ottomans had tried to settle these tribesmen. However Lebanese and Persian missionaries encouraged them to convert, and this how Iraq became a Shia majority and it also lead to split among some tribes into northern(Sunni) and southern(Shia) clans. This of course gets more complex.

[Magnet]

why are iraqis so exotic ?

Interestingly, some of these people look strongly mong-influenced. Are you sure they are even arabs?
I would say they are imported Hazara shia from Afghanistan.

https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg

[Borealis]

Because the majority of Iraqi Arabs are descendants of Bedouin tribes. Some of these Bedouin tribes converted to Shia Islam in the 19th century due to Lebanese and Persian Shia missionaries. This lead to clan fighting, and some of them moved all the way north. Also Iraq was depopulated by the Mongol invasion, and the population was revived by incoming Arabian tribes. Some of the Bedouin tribes that did not settle and continued to follow their culture, never adopted Shiaism and were hostile to it, and they are to this day, many of them settled in the West and north, and they still keep clan/relations to the Arabian peninsula. So that's your answer.

Of course there was some Persian or I should say Turko-Persian settlers but their influence was minimal.

Persian settlement in Iraq was anything but minor. I have even heard many say that many Iraqis resemble Persians.

[Borealis]

Around 40% to 60% are Shia the rest are Sunni, and very more common in the West and North. Yes they do they follow the 12 Imams, as they believe that Ali should have taken the Caliphate, instead of the others, since he was the cousin and in law. Thus their Imam's lineage start from Ali and ends all the way to the Imam Mahadi whom they believe he is hidden, but will return. Most of them adopted Shiaism quite recently when the Ottomans had tried to settle these tribesmen. However Lebanese and Persian missionaries encouraged them to convert, and this how Iraq became a Shia majority and it also lead to split among some tribes into northern(Sunni) and southern(Shia) clans. This of course gets more complex.

no, Iraqi Arabs are not 40-60% Shia. If that were the case it would not be a Shia majority(60-65%) country as most Kurds are Sunni. Sunni Arabs are around 20% of the population Shia Arabs 60%. So about (3/4 or 75% of Arabs are Shiite).

[StonyArabia]

Persian settlement in Iraq was anything but minor. I have even heard many say that many Iraqis resemble Persians.

Persian settlement or Turko-Persian settlement came to be more common in the 1900's, but they always did come and go. Due to Shia radicalism, the Persian community in Iraq which was mostly made of merchants began to be attacked by the Baathist. Things became worse, during the Iraq-Iran war, and actually many of them were expelled, despite being well integrated. Hostilities were all time high after this. Also since the American invasion, Iraqi Arabs even Shia ones have become hostile to Iran. Some do, but not many Persians look well Persian, and we look well Arabian. non-Bedouin Iraqis have might show an Iranic shift. Arabians rarely if e, those in the center especially where the Shia shrines are have strong Levantine Shia, Persian, and of course other ancestries with Arabian also.

Plus most samples from Southern Iraqi tribal population show them to be Arabian usually close to Bedouin/Saudis there are non-tribals who are often mixed. Western Iraqis are very close to Bedouins in general. Northern Iraqi Arab non-tribal are well a mix.

[Nazarene]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxF0e-1ZCKw

The kids here are from Mosul (Iraqi Arabs), some look quite mixed while others imo look typical Assyrian.

[Borealis]

Persian settlement or Turko-Persian settlement came to be more common in the 1900's, but they always did come and go. Due to Shia radicalism, the Persian community in Iraq which was mostly made of merchants began to be attacked by the Baathist. Things became worse, during the Iraq-Iran war, and actually many of them were expelled, despite being well integrated. Hostilities were all time high after this. Also since the American invasion, Iraqi Arabs even Shia ones have become hostile to Iran. Some do, but not many Persians look well Persian, and we look well Arabian. non-Bedouin Iraqis have might show an Iranic shift. Arabians rarely if e, those in the center especially where the Shia shrines are have strong Levantine Shia, Persian, and of course other ancestries with Arabian also.

Plus most samples from Southern Iraqi tribal population show them to be Arabian usually close to Bedouin/Saudis there are non-tribals who are often mixed. Western Iraqis are very close to Bedouins in general. Northern Iraqi Arab non-tribal are well a mix.

I’m going off the informarion that we do have. Where do you get the idea that southern and western Iraqis are very Bedouin like genetically? Not doubting you but want to see hard proof. Furthermore you keep talking about bedouins while failing to realize most Iraqis are not Bedouin. Also, yes there was lots of Persian settlement of the shrine cities in Iraq but Persian influence goes waaay back. Iraq was in the Persian sphere of influence for several centuries. Also those “Iranians” thrown out by Saddam were just usually random Shias with no family connection to Iran lol. And I’m not even bringing up Kurds or Turkmen(who influenced Sunnis) yet...

[StonyArabia]

I’m going off the informarion that we do have. Where do you get the idea that southern and western Iraqis are very Bedouin like genetically? Not doubting you but want to see hard proof. Furthermore you keep talking about bedouins while failing to realize most Iraqis are not Bedouin. Also, yes there was lots of Persian settlement of the shrine cities in Iraq but Persian influence goes waaay back. Iraq was in the Persian sphere of influence for several centuries. Also those “Iranians” thrown out by Saddam were just usually random Shias with no family connection to Iran lol. And I’m not even bringing up Kurds or Turkmen(who influenced Sunnis) yet...

No they had Persian documents, they were not Shia Arabs, despite they were culturally Arabized. The majority of Iraqi Arabs are descendant of Bedouin tribes, some of them lost it, and some of us have kept it. Yes we are like Bedouins genetically, simply because that's what we are. Non-tribal Sunnis are mixed with Assyrian like people, Kurds and Turkmens. Western Iraqis might have a slight Levantine shift, but that's about it. I am from the Western regions.

[Borealis]

No they had Persian documents, they were not Shia Arabs, despite they were culturally Arabized. The majority of Iraqi Arabs are descendant of Bedouin tribes, some of them lost it, and some of us have kept it. Yes we are like Bedouins genetically, simply because that's what we are. Non-tribal Sunnis are mixed with Assyrian like people, Kurds and Turkmens. Western Iraqis might have a slight Levantine shift, but that's about it. I am from the Western regions.

Persian documents my ass, like I should trust what a delusional tyrannical regime said! Also you still have not shown genetic evidence for your claims. At best Iraqi Arabs are half way between Arabians and Iranians.

[StonyArabia]

Interestingly, some of these people look strongly mong-influenced. Are you sure they are even arabs?
I would say they are imported Hazara shia from Afghanistan.

https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg

During the sectarian violence, many people poured into Iraq. For example there were Berbers coming from Morocco, Tunisia, Gulf Arabs from Bahrain, and Sunni Turkmens, and also Caucasians, Balochies fighting on the Sunni side, well you had Hazaras, Lebanese Shia, Persians, ect fighting on the Shia side. So any of these militas are full of alien people. I never seen any Iraqi with strong Mongol look, not even Turkmens who look more Iranian/Kurdish, so certainly imported.

[Hadouken]

Persian settlement in Iraq was anything but minor. I have even heard many say that many Iraqis resemble Persians.

they dont . persians are very different looking . persians are a lot "whiter"

[Borealis]

they dont . persians are very different looking . persians are a lot "whiter"

Compared to the Iraqis in photos you posted yes. But you have to realize not all look like that. I asked a Question on this topic a while back and the response was it depends on the region. Those in shrine cities may look Irani. Whatever the case may be in terms of looks, there is undeniable Persian input genetically.

[Magnet]

why are iraqis so exotic ? it is interesting imo

https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg


During the sectarian violence, many people poured into Iraq. For example there were Berbers coming from Morocco, Tunisia, Gulf Arabs from Bahrain, and Sunni Turkmens, and also Caucasians, Balochies fighting on the Sunni side, well you had Hazaras, Lebanese Shia, Persians, ect fighting on the Shia side. So any of these militas are full of alien people. I never seen any Iraqi with strong Mongol look, not even Turkmens who look more Iranian/Kurdish, so certainly imported.

I would say all are afghans, or maybe a few persians in between. But they all fit in the diversity of Afghans I have seen. Iran-led milia.
That is why they look so "exotic" lol.

[StonyArabia]

Persian documents my ass, like I should trust what a delusional tyrannical regime said! Also you still have not shown genetic evidence for your claims. At best Iraqi Arabs are half way between Arabians and Iranians.

I have an Iraqi Persian friend and know a couple of them. They were ethnically Persian, but culturally Arabic. Many of them did have Persian documents, some of them were indeed just Arabs who got thrown out, but the majority of them were of Persian descent and were of the merchant class. They were well off. Shia Arabs were often in the Middle to lower Middle class and many were poor actually. Baghdad had a lot of these Persians, some left when the Hashamites took over a significant amount, and a good amount stayed until the 1980's, due to paronia of the Baathist regime they might ally with Iran, during the war. We can easily tell them apart from ethnic Shia Arabs who are only different than us by sect lol.

[Borealis]

I have an Iraqi Persian friend and know a couple of them. They were ethnically Persian, but culturally Arabic. Many of them did have Persian documents, some of them were indeed just Arabs who got thrown out, but the majority of them were of Persian descent and were of the merchant class. They were well off. Shia Arabs were often in the Middle to lower Middle class and many were poor actually. Baghdad had a lot of these Persians, some left when the Hashamites took over a significant amount, and a good amount stayed until the 1980's, due to paronia of the Baathist regime they might ally with Iran, during the war. We can easily tell them apart from ethnic Shia Arabs who are only different than us by sect lol.

Yes you have those but also Shias of Persian ancestry who have been in Iraq so long that they have no connection to Iran any longer. Those types I’m sure you will find in shrine cities. Further there are others with partial Iranian ancestry going back to antiquity. Baghdad saw lots of settlement of Persians especially. That’s why arab Iraqis including many Sunnis show Iranian shift unlike Assyrians.

[Nazarene]

I have an Iraqi Persian friend and know a couple of them. They were ethnically Persian, but culturally Arabic. Many of them did have Persian documents, some of them were indeed just Arabs who got thrown out, but the majority of them were of Persian descent and were of the merchant class. They were well off. Shia Arabs were often in the Middle to lower Middle class and many were poor actually. Baghdad had a lot of these Persians, some left when the Hashamites took over a significant amount, and a good amount stayed until the 1980's, due to paronia of the Baathist regime they might ally with Iran, during the war. We can easily tell them apart from ethnic Shia Arabs who are only different than us by sect lol.

It's sad that the Iraqi Jews and the Iraqi Persians were kicked out, I'm sure that a good portion of them were loyal to our country.

[Newsboy]

Those Iraqis posted by the OP do look quite exotic. Noticeably darker than their Levantine and Iranian neighbors with different facial features.

Some even look like the Indians I see around town, such as these men.

https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg

Had their origins not been revealed there will doubtlessly be other posters who agree with the idea that some are passable in India or South Asia.

[NPKTO]

They mostly look like mixture of Arabid/Iranid/East Med/Asiatic Alpine.

[NPKTO]

Those Iraqis posted by the OP do look quite exotic. Noticeably darker than their Levantine and Iranian neighbors with different facial features.

Some even look like the Indians I see around town, such as these men.

https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg

Had their origins not been revealed there will doubtlessly be other posters who agree with the idea that some are passable in India or South Asia.

The dude on far left can pass in South Asia imo.

[Kivan]

Arabids, South-Arabids, Orientalids, Indo-Brachids and Veddoids.

[Borealis]

Those Iraqis posted by the OP do look quite exotic. Noticeably darker than their Levantine and Iranian neighbors with different facial features.

Some even look like the Indians I see around town, such as these men.

https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg

Had their origins not been revealed there will doubtlessly be other posters who agree with the idea that some are passable in India or South Asia.

That guy on the far left looks like an aged version of that ex youtuber and Indian in denial Ray William Johnson. The rest do not look South Asian imo.

[rein]

Just dark skinned Bedouins.

[Livin]

They dont pass in levant neither in west Asia imo.

Mostly arabids with some turkomongol influences. I dont see persians too!!!

[TheMaestro]

Kings of unibrows.

[Marmara]

Iraqi Arabs are also absurdly short, it's clear they have an exotic admix.

[Mingle]

I would say all are afghans, or maybe a few persians in between. But they all fit in the diversity of Afghans I have seen. Iran-led milia.
That is why they look so "exotic" lol.

They don't look Afghan at all...

[Magnet]

They don't look Afghan at all...

Swedes are very familiar what they look like , believe me :)
Read about "refugee kids"...

Yes they look like darker mongols with persian influence, typical Hazara. The others may be persians from iran or other ethnic groups from Afghanistan. In any case the brown mongol-looking ones are not Iraqis or even middle eastern. Hadouken clearly tries to "darkwash" iraqis for some reason.

But he does not fool anyone with those imported hazara militiamen lol

[Borealis]

Swedes are very familiar what they look like , believe me :)
Read about "refugee kids"...

Yes they look like darker mongols with persian influence, typical Hazara. The others may be persians from iran or other ethnic groups from Afghanistan. In any case the brown mongol-looking ones are not Iraqis or even middle eastern. Hadouken clearly tries to "darkwash" iraqis for some reason.

But he does not fool anyone with those imported hazara militiamen lol

Iraqis have unmatched diversity in Mideast. It has always been affected by invasions from outside. Some look typical for upper Mideast others more Arabian. Some even African. I swear I’ve seen many Iraqis who looked black in videos.

[Magnet]

They dont pass in levant neither in west Asia imo.

Mostly arabids with some turkomongol influences. I dont see persians too!!!

Turkomongol lol. No iraqi looks like that, but Hadouken posted Hazaras/afghans as "exotic iraqis".

[Magnet]

Iraqis have unmatched diversity in Mideast. It has always been affected by invasions from outside. Some look typical for upper Mideast others more Arabian. Some even African.

Actually most iraqi arabs I have seen aren't darker than Hadouken...
Of course they don't look european, since they are arabs, but he tried to post some iran-led shia milia as Iraqis. No arab looks like last picture.

[Borealis]

https://youtu.be/fb-u64vtF-M

Guy at 0:23 is Iraqi.

[Magnet]

https://youtu.be/fb-u64vtF-M

Guy at 0:23 is Iraqi.

Yes all arabs are part black, but mongol looks are non-existent....
That said most are the same shade as Hadouken :)

[Mingle]

Swedes are very familiar what they look like , believe me :)
Read about "refugee kids"...

Yes they look like darker mongols with persian influence, typical Hazara. The others may be persians from iran or other ethnic groups from Afghanistan. In any case the brown mongol-looking ones are not Iraqis or even middle eastern. Hadouken clearly tries to "darkwash" iraqis for some reason.

But he does not fool anyone with those imported hazara militiamen lol

They don't look Hazara. Some Iraqis may have Mongol blood from the invasion which can give a few individuals here and there a Mongol vibe, but that's it. You're talking as if you're looking at a sea of Mongols. Also, Hazaras are lighter than Iraqi Arabs.

By the way, why do you have the Norwegian flag if you're from Sweden?

[Borealis]

Yes all arabs are part black, but mongol looks are non-existent....
That said most are the same shade as Hadouken :)

I agree. They don’t look East Asian

[Magnet]

They don't look Hazara. Some Iraqis may have Mongol blood from the invasion which can give a few individuals here and there a Mongol vibe, but that's it. You're talking as if you're looking at a sea of Mongols. Also, Hazaras are lighter than Iraqi Arabs.

By the way, why do you have the Norwegian flag if you're from Sweden?

Sure. These are typical afghans in sweden:

https://static.metro.se/d0f/05e/Medisfb-LARGE.jpg

https://x.cdn-expressen.se/images/ec/95/ec956038953444e99ae9d5aca58d1c72/16x9/original.jpg

https://images.hdsydsvenskan.se/980x588/eBKNRSA05r99F4JHcsAtQfkhf_Y.jpg

[Seth MacFarlane]

iraqi arabs are more arabian influenced, very different from the assyrians and kurds in the north of the country

[StonyArabia]

It's sad that the Iraqi Jews and the Iraqi Persians were kicked out, I'm sure that a good portion of them were loyal to our country.

They had few bad apples among them that ruined it all. For the Iraqi Jews, there some Zionist operations to get them to come to Israel.

[Mani]

Interesting thread.
I can tell you that before 1980, Iraq had a higher proportion of Iranian peoples than it does today. Largely to blame for this was the ethnic cleansing campaign that Saddam introduced just before and during the Iran Iraq war.
My paternal side are Iraqis of Persian origin who were forced to leave just before the war started and there were thousands of them who resided in Iraq for centuries. I blame the Arabization of Iraq which seeemd to manifest itself in horrible ways following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

[Borealis]

Interesting thread.
I can tell you that before 1980, Iraq had a higher proportion of Iranian peoples than it does today. Largely to blame for this was the ethnic cleansing campaign that Saddam introduced just before and during the Iran Iraq war.
My paternal side are Iraqis of Persian origin who were forced to leave just before the war started and there were thousands of them who resided in Iraq for centuries. I blame the Arabization of Iraq which seeemd to manifest itself in horrible ways following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

I always wonder what the Saddam family is like genetically. How amusing would it be if they came out Kurdish or Persian influenced.

[StonyArabia]

They don't look Hazara. Some Iraqis may have Mongol blood from the invasion which can give a few individuals here and there a Mongol vibe, but that's it. You're talking as if you're looking at a sea of Mongols. Also, Hazaras are lighter than Iraqi Arabs.

By the way, why do you have the Norwegian flag if you're from Sweden?

Hazaras are not lighter than us, they also have more South Asian influence than us

[Borealis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HF36QPKgiM

Just look at that guy at 1:37 seconds. I dont know how people still say that Iraqi Arabs are the direct descendants of the original Mesopotamian stock.

[Hadouken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HF36QPKgiM

Just look at that guy at 1:37 seconds. I dont know how people still say that Iraqi Arabs are the direct descendants of the original Mesopotamian stock.

the kurds and I think assyrians who live there are mostly of native mesopotamian stock . I doubt that is true for people like the guy in the video or most other iraqi arabs

[Seth MacFarlane]

the kurds and I think assyrians who live there are mostly of native mesopotamian stock . I doubt that is true for people like the guy in the video or most other iraqi arabs

+1

[Borealis]

the kurds and I think assyrians who live there are mostly of native mesopotamian stock . I doubt that is true for people like the guy in the video or most other iraqi arabs

Didn't Kurds also migrate from elsewhere? They are an Iranic people while native mesopotamians were semitic.

[Purohit ji]

Bunch of hadukons minus the owd

[rein]

Bunch of hadukons minus the owd

Shots were fired.

[FinalFlash]

Shots were fired.

He'll be back from his ban soon. Cant wait for what he has in store.

[CommonSense]

It is definitely not a surprise why the old Serbian folk tales and songs mention Arabs as 'black people'.

[Mingle]

He'll be back from his ban soon. Cant wait for what he has in store.

Nothing lol.

[jammydodgers123]

why are iraqis so exotic ? it is interesting imo

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/US_Navy_030408-N-5362A-014_Iraqis_share_a_laugh_with_a_U.S._Army_Speciali st_Michael_Toro_during_an_effort_to_distribute_foo d_and_water_to_Iraqi_citizens_in_need.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/US_Navy_030408-N-5362A-015_Iraqis_share_a_laugh_with_a_U.S._Army_Speciali st_Michael_Toro_during_an_effort_to_distribute_foo d_and_water_to_Iraqi_citizens_in_need.jpg
https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4633439/479210447.jpg
http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/DSC_0037-cropped-main.jpg
https://bxpnyc.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/fb_laughing_iraqi_men_2004_111_1186.jpg
https://cdn10.picryl.com/photo/2004/03/24/these-local-iraqi-men-posing-for-a-photograph-with-a-motorcycle-with-a-sidecar-fd578f-1600.jpg
https://www.ispionline.it/sites/default/files/field/image/foto_plebani.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/03/05/21/35-iraq-cleric-ap.jpg?w968h681
http://archive.defense.gov/DODCMSShare/NewsStoryPhoto/2008-08/hrs_080801-A-5510S-042a.jpg
https://www-cache.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/art/progs/3215/iraqPlayers1.jpg

Not all Iraqis are that dark, it depends on the region. I go to a uni with Iraqis and levantines and it's hard to tell then apart. It's about how much grooming they get. Many Syrians and lebs can look like OP as well.

[Hadouken]

Nothing lol.

I dont care what he says and it is obvious that I dont look like them

also he calls me owd only because I state the obvious that his people are very different from us west asians

you guys should stop trying to cause fights

[FinalFlash]

I dont care what he says and it is obvious that I dont look like them

also he calls me owd only because I state the obvious that his people are very different from us west asians

you guys should stop trying to cause fights

I dont think you're OWD