European G25 based calculator - Atlantic, Baltic, Balkan_Med admixtures

[michal3141]

If you have your Davidski's G25 (Global 25) coordinates you are welcomed to participate and share your results.

I've tried to create a genetic calculator with as few components as possible for people of European ancestry based on G25 coordinates.

Here are my components:
- Atlantic (based on Spanish Basques)
- Baltic (based on Latvians)
- Balkan_Med (based on Albanians)
- Caucasian (based on Georgians, a proxy for Middle Eastern ancestry)
- East_Asian (based on Han Chinese, a proxy for East Asian and Siberian ancestry)
- African (based on Yorubas)

So there are 3 strictly European components (Atlantic, Baltic and Balkan_Med) based on 3 distinct and homogeneous European populations.
There are also components to represent Middle Eastern, East Asian and African ancestry.

Scaled G25 coordinates for chosen components:



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Balkan_Med,0.1203271,0.1415939,0.015839,-0.0163346,0.0255873,-0.0065339,0.0051029,0.0039889,2.93e-05,0.0152036,0.0006496,0.0011776,-0.0064563,0.0087096,-0.0215214,-0.0064211,0.004787,0.0025339,0.0086194,-0.0063959,-0.0044029,0.0007416,0.0021127,0.0030124,-0.0006329
Atlantic,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.0582862,0.0090081,0 .0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Caucasian,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
East_Asian,0.0215316,-0.4503027,-0.0074797,-0.065246,0.0764247,0.0360932,0.0031333,-0.0045575,-0.0152541,-0.0028095,-0.0510712,-0.0069312,0.0079284,-0.007833,-0.0042411,0.0015247,0.0017167,-0.0003695,-0.0020322,-0.0103902,0.0126859,0.007079,0.0136394,-0.0015664,-0.0019957
Baltic,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.043 208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246


My results (using nMonte3 program):

[1] "distance%=2.7885"

michal3141

Baltic,70.2
Balkan_Med,14.6
Atlantic,10.8
Caucasian,3
East_Asian,1.4

I think that all Europeans should have distance% < 5% using this calculator so this set of components should be good enough for all Europeans.
I haven't tested all European populations so I might be wrong.
I am also curious if you can suggest a better model with a similar number of populations (we don't want overfitting).

PS: No Slavic, Germanic, Celtic components because I think these are actually mixed and my choice of components is better. If you don't agree I am also curious about your arguments ;)

[Coolguy1]

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Sorcelow,0.0103,0.014,0.0026,-0.006,0.0041,0.0001,0.0029,0.0001,0.0001,0.0053,-0.0012,-0.0018,0,0.0095,-0.0085,0.0056,0.0045,-0.0005,0.0022,-0.0086,-0.0051,-0.002,0.0026,0.0072,-0.0042

here are my coordinates

[Coolguy1]

I dont think Albanians should be used as a component. There is nothing genetically unique about them as they are very similar to Greeks, Tuscans, and Albanians. I think fringe populations need to be used to source components like Basques, Sardinians etc.

[michal3141]

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Sorcelow,0.0103,0.014,0.0026,-0.006,0.0041,0.0001,0.0029,0.0001,0.0001,0.0053,-0.0012,-0.0018,0,0.0095,-0.0085,0.0056,0.0045,-0.0005,0.0022,-0.0086,-0.0051,-0.002,0.0026,0.0072,-0.0042

here are my coordinates

Are these scaled coordinates?

Your results are very exotic:

[1] "distance%=3.8438"

Sorcelow

Balkan_Med,47.4
East_Asian,17.4
Caucasian,13.8
African,12.4
Baltic,9

[michal3141]

I dont think Albanians should be used as a component. There is nothing genetically unique about them as they are very similar to Greeks, Tuscans, and Albanians. I think fringe populations need to be used to source components like Basques, Sardinians etc.

I needed something to represent the Balkan admixture so my choice was Albanians. I am trying to choose as extreme populations as possible.

[Ibericus]

[1] "distance%=0.8578 / distance=0.008578"

Ibericus

Atlantic 58.75
Balkan_Med 33.75
Caucasian 3.35
Baltic 2.90
African 1.15
East_Asian 0.10

[michal3141]

[1] "distance%=2.5088"

FilhoV_scaled

Atlantic,55.2
Balkan_Med,36
Caucasian,5.8
African,3

[Kaspias]

Good work Michal. I know some of your works from other forums, if i'm remembering correctly. I hope you keep sharing your works in the apricity too.

I'm trying to get my coordinates, i will share my results too when i get them.

[Coolguy1]

Are these scaled coordinates?

Your results are very exotic:

[1] "distance%=3.8438"

Sorcelow

Balkan_Med,47.4
East_Asian,17.4
Caucasian,13.8
African,12.4
Baltic,9


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Sorcelow,0.0103,0.014,0.0026,-0.006,0.0041,0.0001,0.0029,0.0001,0.0001,0.0053,-0.0012,-0.0018,0,0.0095,-0.0085,0.0056,0.0045,-0.0005,0.0022,-0.0086,-0.0051,-0.002,0.0026,0.0072,-0.0042

Try this? Are they the same?

These are the unscaled coordinates that davidski sent me

[FilhoV]

Thanks

[Coolguy1]

Sorcelow_scaled,0.117237801625585,0.14217411860110 1,0.0098051374289196,-0.0193800928790344,0.0126177458367174,0.0002788906 59578266,0.00681530850365557,0.000230759615184287, 0.00020452383724153,0.00965851386083801,-0.00194866107879231,-0.00269759893238413,0,0.0130741538923175,-0.01153622555258,0.00742501717169732,0.00586728216 468238,-0.000633442972965996,0.00276535711979484,-0.0107551587621941,-0.00636377010898414,-0.00247305479114394,0.00320444066882194,0.00867592 531088183,-0.00502948903965403

These are my scaled results

[michal3141]

Sorcelow_scaled,0.117237801625585,0.14217411860110 1,0.0098051374289196,-0.0193800928790344,0.0126177458367174,0.0002788906 59578266,0.00681530850365557,0.000230759615184287, 0.00020452383724153,0.00965851386083801,-0.00194866107879231,-0.00269759893238413,0,0.0130741538923175,-0.01153622555258,0.00742501717169732,0.00586728216 468238,-0.000633442972965996,0.00276535711979484,-0.0107551587621941,-0.00636377010898414,-0.00247305479114394,0.00320444066882194,0.00867592 531088183,-0.00502948903965403

These are my scaled results

These are good coordinates. Now the results are as expected:

[1] "distance%=2.6374"

Sorcelow_scaled

Balkan_Med,88.4
Caucasian,8.4
Baltic,3
African,0.2

Balkan_Med - peaks in Albania
Caucasian - peaks in Georgia
Baltic - peaks in Latvia

[michal3141]

[1] "distance%=2.7304"

Rosanne_scaled

Atlantic,52.2
Baltic,28.8
Balkan_Med,14
Caucasian,4.8
East_Asian,0.2

[firemonkey]

Tim_G_scaled,0.129758,0.131003,0.064865,0.047158,0 .043393,0.019243,0.002585,0.003,0.006954,-0.000547,-0.002598,0.005095,-0.010406,-0.011147,0.027823,0.006364,-0.021253,0.005828,0.001885,0.001751,0.004367,0.001 855,-0.002218,0.008555,-0.003113

Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

[michal3141]

Tim_G_scaled,0.129758,0.131003,0.064865,0.047158,0 .043393,0.019243,0.002585,0.003,0.006954,-0.000547,-0.002598,0.005095,-0.010406,-0.011147,0.027823,0.006364,-0.021253,0.005828,0.001885,0.001751,0.004367,0.001 855,-0.002218,0.008555,-0.003113

Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

[1] "distance%=4.2577"

Tim_G_scaled

Atlantic,56.4
Baltic,40.2
Caucasian,2.4
East_Asian,0.6
African,0.4

[1] "distance%=4.1854"

Tim_G_father_scaled

Atlantic,59.8
Baltic,36.4
Caucasian,3.8

Quite similar results in spite of some noise (East_Asian and African). The distances are pretty good.

[Grace O'Malley]

Can you do mine.

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Grace_unscaled,0.0122,0.0134,0.0171,0.0161,0.0118, 0.0062,0.0007,0.0027,0.0024,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0031,-0.0076,-0.0071,0.0221,0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0035,0.0003,0.0063,0.0057,0.0059,-0.0047,0.009,-0.0004

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25Grace_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.0 64488,0.052003,0.036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231 ,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.000479

[michal3141]

Can you do mine.

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Grace_unscaled,0.0122,0.0134,0.0171,0.0161,0.0118, 0.0062,0.0007,0.0027,0.0024,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0031,-0.0076,-0.0071,0.0221,0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0035,0.0003,0.0063,0.0057,0.0059,-0.0047,0.009,-0.0004

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[1] "distance%=4.5174"

Grace_scaled

Atlantic,53
Baltic,43.6
Caucasian,3.4

[celticdragongod]

Sorry I am late but if it isn't too much trouble could you do mine?

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K_Duffy_scaled,0.134311,0.135065,0.063356,0.04845, 0.037545,0.019801,0.003995,0.010153,0.007363,0.000 911,-0.003735,0.006294,-0.01442,-0.009358,0.020222,-0.000133,-0.014342,0,0.007793,0.006628,-0.000374,0.000989,0.008258,0.016629,-0.001437

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K_Duffy,0.0118,0.0133,0.0168,0.015,0.0122,0.0071,0 .0017,0.0044,0.0036,0.0005,-0.0023,0.0042,-0.0097,-0.0068,0.0149,-0.0001,-0.011,0,0.0062,0.0053,-0.0003,0.0008,0.0067,0.0138,-0.0012

[Coastal Elite]

Me too please. Thanks

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DacoCeltic_scaled,0.133173,0.13405,0.043369,0.0226 1,0.028313,0.01004,0.00235,0.004384,0.002863,0.006 014,-0.00747,0.008243,-0.014123,-0.004542,0.004072,-0.000796,0.001043,-0.00076,0.006913,-0.002876,-0.001123,0.004699,0.005423,0.00976,-0.005628

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DacoCeltic,0.0117,0.0132,0.0115,0.007,0.0092,0.003 6,0.001,0.0019,0.0014,0.0033,-0.0046,0.0055,-0.0095,-0.0033,0.003,-0.0006,0.0008,-0.0006,0.0055,-0.0023,-0.0009,0.0038,0.0044,0.0081,-0.0047

[michal3141]

Sorry I am late but if it isn't too much trouble could you do mine?

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K_Duffy_scaled,0.134311,0.135065,0.063356,0.04845, 0.037545,0.019801,0.003995,0.010153,0.007363,0.000 911,-0.003735,0.006294,-0.01442,-0.009358,0.020222,-0.000133,-0.014342,0,0.007793,0.006628,-0.000374,0.000989,0.008258,0.016629,-0.001437

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K_Duffy,0.0118,0.0133,0.0168,0.015,0.0122,0.0071,0 .0017,0.0044,0.0036,0.0005,-0.0023,0.0042,-0.0097,-0.0068,0.0149,-0.0001,-0.011,0,0.0062,0.0053,-0.0003,0.0008,0.0067,0.0138,-0.0012

[1] "distance%=4.3708"

K_Duffy_scaled

Atlantic,55
Baltic,41.2
Caucasian,3.2
Balkan_Med,0.4
East_Asian,0.2

[michal3141]

Me too please. Thanks

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DacoCeltic_scaled,0.133173,0.13405,0.043369,0.0226 1,0.028313,0.01004,0.00235,0.004384,0.002863,0.006 014,-0.00747,0.008243,-0.014123,-0.004542,0.004072,-0.000796,0.001043,-0.00076,0.006913,-0.002876,-0.001123,0.004699,0.005423,0.00976,-0.005628

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DacoCeltic,0.0117,0.0132,0.0115,0.007,0.0092,0.003 6,0.001,0.0019,0.0014,0.0033,-0.0046,0.0055,-0.0095,-0.0033,0.003,-0.0006,0.0008,-0.0006,0.0055,-0.0023,-0.0009,0.0038,0.0044,0.0081,-0.0047

[1] "distance%=2.8238"

DacoCeltic_scaled

Atlantic,39
Balkan_Med,26.4
Baltic,24.2
Caucasian,9.8
East_Asian,0.6

[celticdragongod]

[1] "distance%=4.3708"

K_Duffy_scaled

Atlantic,55
Baltic,41.2
Caucasian,3.2
Balkan_Med,0.4
East_Asian,0.2

Fantastic! Thanks!

[Coastal Elite]

[1] "distance%=2.8238"

DacoCeltic_scaled

Atlantic,39
Balkan_Med,26.4
Baltic,24.2
Caucasian,9.8
East_Asian,0.6

Thanks!

[Ayetooey]

If you have your Davidski's G25 (Global 25) coordinates you are welcomed to participate and share your results.

I've tried to create a genetic calculator with as few components as possible for people of European ancestry based on G25 coordinates.

Here are my components:
- Atlantic (based on Spanish Basques)
- Baltic (based on Latvians)
- Balkan_Med (based on Albanians)
- Caucasian (based on Georgians, a proxy for Middle Eastern ancestry)
- East_Asian (based on Han Chinese, a proxy for East Asian and Siberian ancestry)
- African (based on Yorubas)

So there are 3 strictly European components (Atlantic, Baltic and Balkan_Med) based on 3 distinct and homogeneous European populations.
There are also components to represent Middle Eastern, East Asian and African ancestry.

Scaled G25 coordinates for chosen components:



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Balkan_Med,0.1203271,0.1415939,0.015839,-0.0163346,0.0255873,-0.0065339,0.0051029,0.0039889,2.93e-05,0.0152036,0.0006496,0.0011776,-0.0064563,0.0087096,-0.0215214,-0.0064211,0.004787,0.0025339,0.0086194,-0.0063959,-0.0044029,0.0007416,0.0021127,0.0030124,-0.0006329
Atlantic,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.0582862,0.0090081,0 .0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Caucasian,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
East_Asian,0.0215316,-0.4503027,-0.0074797,-0.065246,0.0764247,0.0360932,0.0031333,-0.0045575,-0.0152541,-0.0028095,-0.0510712,-0.0069312,0.0079284,-0.007833,-0.0042411,0.0015247,0.0017167,-0.0003695,-0.0020322,-0.0103902,0.0126859,0.007079,0.0136394,-0.0015664,-0.0019957
Baltic,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.043 208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246


My results (using nMonte3 program):

[1] "distance%=2.7885"

michal3141

Baltic,70.2
Balkan_Med,14.6
Atlantic,10.8
Caucasian,3
East_Asian,1.4

I think that all Europeans should have distance% < 5% using this calculator so this set of components should be good enough for all Europeans.
I haven't tested all European populations so I might be wrong.
I am also curious if you can suggest a better model with a similar number of populations (we don't want overfitting).

PS: No Slavic, Germanic, Celtic components because I think these are actually mixed and my choice of components is better. If you don't agree I am also curious about your arguments ;)

Hi, do you mind doing mine if possible. I've got 23andme and ancestrydna data.

Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

ZoranAnc_scaled,0.132035,0.133034,0.049403,0.02907 ,0.034776,0.011435,-0.00094,0.003461,0.007567,0.002551,-0.004872,0,-0.00223,-0.007156,0.001629,0.017104,0.01695,0.001267,-0.001006,-0.000625,-0.00025,-0.003091,0.002588,0.012291,-0.002036

Thanks.

[Kelmendasi]

Can you run mine as well please?

U_Vushaj_scaled,0.122929,0.150298,0.021873,-0.01938,0.035083,-0.006972,0.00376,0.004384,0.003886,0.019864,-0.003573,0.009292,-0.003717,0.007707,-0.020358,-0.012463,0.00691,0.002787,0.005154,-0.005253,-0.004118,0.002473,0.000123,-0.000361,0.000958

[Bosniensis]

Balkan_Med,66
Baltic,31.8
Caucasian,2.2

This is wrong, we are Slavs, Balkan Med absorbed Slavs probably.

[Bosniensis]

Can you run mine as well please?

U_Vushaj_scaled,0.122929,0.150298,0.021873,-0.01938,0.035083,-0.006972,0.00376,0.004384,0.003886,0.019864,-0.003573,0.009292,-0.003717,0.007707,-0.020358,-0.012463,0.00691,0.002787,0.005154,-0.005253,-0.004118,0.002473,0.000123,-0.000361,0.000958

U_Vushaj_scaled 0.0009580000
fitted -0.0003086824
dif -0.0012666824
[1] "distance%=1.7666"

U_Vushaj_scaled

Balkan_Med,88.8
Atlantic,11.2

[Ayetooey]

U_Vushaj_scaled 0.0009580000
fitted -0.0003086824
dif -0.0012666824
[1] "distance%=1.7666"

U_Vushaj_scaled

Balkan_Med,88.8
Atlantic,11.2

Do mine also plz.

[Bosniensis]

Do mine also plz.

[1] "distance%=3.5338"

ZoranAnc_scaled

Atlantic,37.4
Baltic,34
Balkan_Med,21.4
Caucasian,6.4
East_Asian,0.8

[Ayetooey]

[1] "distance%=3.5338"

ZoranAnc_scaled

Atlantic,37.4
Baltic,34
Balkan_Med,21.4
Caucasian,6.4
East_Asian,0.8

Can you do my 23andme data also, both produce quite varying results.

[Bosniensis]

Can you do my 23andme data also, both produce quite varying results.

Give 23andMe scaled

[Ayetooey]

Give 23andMe scaled

Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

[Bosniensis]

Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

doesn't work must give me full with those PC1, PC2 etc...

[Ayetooey]

doesn't work must give me full with those PC1, PC2 etc...

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

[Bosniensis]

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

doesn't work you are giving me something wrong.

[Ayetooey]

Just made my own calc without the non euro noise, ran my 23andme data instead since my ancestrydna data shifts weirdly.
Balkan-med: 30.83
Atlantic: 23.83
Baltic: 40
Caucus:.0.33

[celticdragongod]

doesn't work you are giving me something wrong.

There is a space in one of the co-ordinates:0.0028 76

[Kaspias]

[1] "distance%=3.46"

Kaspias_scaled

Balkan_Med,63.8
Baltic,15.6
Caucasian,11
East_Asian,9.6

[Lemgrant]

with pen=0.001

[1] "distance%=2.7368"

Baltic,73.8
Atlantic,9.8
Balkan_Med,9.6
Caucasian,5
East_Asian,1.8

with pen=0

[1] "distance%=2.7348"

Baltic,73.4
Balkan_Med,12.2
Atlantic,8.6
Caucasian,4
East_Asian,1.8

[Stefanos.tasidis]

How do we do this ? I have my raw data.

[Vyacheslav]

Europe 4000 years ago :)
"distance%=4.9508"
CWC_Baltic,87
Beaker_Iberia,6.4
Minoan_Lasithi,4
Nganassan,2.6

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

[1] "distance%=2.8392"

Viriato_scaled

Atlantic,62
Balkan_Med,29.8
Caucasian,5.8
African,2
East_Asian,0.4

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

[1] "distance%=3.7109"

Zoran23_scaled

Baltic,40
Atlantic,29
Balkan_Med,24.2
Caucasian,6.2
East_Asian,0.6

[Vasconcelos]

[1] "distance%=3.3972"

Vasconcelos_scaled

Atlantic,70
Balkan_Med,22.2
Caucasian,5.2
African,2.6



[1] "distance%=3.3271"

MrsVasconcelos_scaled

Atlantic,67.6
Balkan_Med,24.2
Caucasian,4.8
African,2.2
East_Asian,1.2





Unless there's people with Basque or Cantabrian ancestry, odds are not many will score higher Atlantic than us, at least not by much. We're both very Basque-shifted.
However, I much prefer to use unscaled coordiates, especially with modern populations, it's much more methodologically correct

[Veles]

If you have your Davidski's G25 (Global 25) coordinates you are welcomed to participate and share your results.
When I found out about the G25, I stopped using regular calculators. Here you can play with the components yourself without having outstanding programming knowledge.
My results:
[1] "distance%=1.9344"

Alex_scaled

Baltic,79.8
Atlantic,7.6
Balkan_Med,7.6
Caucasian,2.8
East_Asian,2.2

[Vasconcelos]

When I found out about the G25, I stopped using regular calculators. Here you can play with the components yourself without having outstanding programming knowledge.

The PCA itself is also much more recent and accurate than the older versions which were built with much less references than this one. There's just not much point in using other ones once you have G25, other than maybe as a guideline, but even then I stick to K13 and K15 alone

[michal3141]

When I found out about the G25, I stopped using regular calculators. Here you can play with the components yourself without having outstanding programming knowledge.
My results:
[1] "distance%=1.9344"

Alex_scaled

Baltic,79.8
Atlantic,7.6
Balkan_Med,7.6
Caucasian,2.8
East_Asian,2.2

You are from Kriviches from Tver, correct? ))

[Veles]

You are from Kriviches from Tver, correct? ))
Dnieper Balts called us "Krive" - that means blood brothers. :)

[Veles]

Lithuanians and Latvians still call the Russians - Krive - what does it mean "blood brothers". Sit Latvians in the Seym and say - "let's impose sanctions on Krivichi (blood brothers)". And impose Latvians and Lithuanians sanctions against blood brothers. The world is Comedy.

[Pedro Ruben]

Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.8691%

Atlantic 58.4
Balkan_Med 28.8
African 5.4
Caucasian 4.4
Baltic 3.0

[PT Tagus]

PT_Tagus_scaled",
"fit": 2.5729,

"Atlantic": 60,
"Balkan_Med": 28.33,
"Caucasian": 7.5,
"African": 4.17

[Luke35]

[1] "distance%=2.8238"

DacoCeltic_scaled

Atlantic,39
Balkan_Med,26.4
Baltic,24.2
Caucasian,9.8
East_Asian,0.6


[1] "distance%=3.5338"

ZoranAnc_scaled

Atlantic,37.4
Baltic,34
Balkan_Med,21.4
Caucasian,6.4
East_Asian,0.8

^^^With my half NW European compadres Daco Celtic and Ayetooey.

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 2.5905% / 0.02590519

37.8 Baltic
35.0 Atlantic
15.8 Balkan_Med
10.4 Caucasian
1.0 East_Asian

[Jana]

Results of me and Stears :)

Target: Feodora_scaled
Distance: 3.0646% / 0.03064614
43.2 Baltic
33.2 Balkan_Med
18.0 Atlantic
5.2 Caucasian
0.4 East_Asian

Target: Csaba_scaled
Distance: 1.6291% / 0.01629080
45.2 Baltic
22.6 Balkan_Med
17.2 Atlantic
12.4 Caucasian
2.2 East_Asian
0.4 African

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 3.1801% / 0.03180136
50.8 Balkan_Med
16.6 Caucasian
16.4 Baltic
11.0 Atlantic
3.6 East_Asian
1.6 African

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Target: Insert_scaled
Distance: 2.4298% / 0.02429822
70.4 Balkan_Med
23.2 Baltic
6.4 Atlantic

Target: Insert_scaled
Distance: 2.0141% / 0.02014057
62.4 Balkan_Med
25.4 Baltic
11.0 Atlantic
0.8 African
0.4 East_Asian

Target: Insert_scaled
Distance: 1.8879% / 0.01887946
51.8 Balkan_Med
27.0 Baltic
15.6 Atlantic
3.4 Caucasian
1.2 African
1.0 East_Asian

[Mingle]

I needed something to represent the Balkan admixture so my choice was Albanians. I am trying to choose as extreme populations as possible.

Why not use Cretans instead? They have less Slavic than Albanians.

[michal3141]

Why not use Cretans instead? They have less Slavic than Albanians.

You're right. I didn't think about it at all.

[JohnnyP]

"sample": "Test1:JohnnyP_scaled",
"fit": 1.9486,
"Balkan_Med": 68.33,
"Baltic": 27.5,
"Caucasian": 2.5,
"Atlantic": 1.67,

[Yamnaya]

Can somebody do mine:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg_scaled,0.129758,0.083273,0.071276,0.063631,0. 016003,0.022032,0.022326,0.011076,-0.00225,-0.034989,0.013641,-0.005395,0.020069,0.012661,-0.021715,-0.003182,0.008345,-0.00266,-0.003394,0.002126,-0.003494,-0.009274,0.002835,-0.01205,-0.001197



,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg,0.0114,0.0082,0.0189,0.0197,0.0052,0.0079,0.0 095,0.0048,-0.0011,-0.0192,0.0084,-0.0036,0.0135,0.0092,-0.016,-0.0024,0.0064,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0017,-0.0028,-0.0075,0.0023,-0.01,-0.001

thanks

[JohnnyP]

Target: Johnnyp_Father
Distance: 2.4351% / 0.02435113
73.2 Balkan_Med
23.4 Baltic
3.2 Atlantic
0.2 African

[paradox]

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02167732
82.6 Balkan_Med
9.0 Caucasian
8.2 Baltic
0.2 African


My father

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0229% / 0.02285053
76.2 Balkan_Med
19.8 Baltic
3.2 Atlantic
0.8 Caucasian

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.6278% / 0.04627821
57.0 Atlantic
17.6 Balkan_Med
12.6 Caucasian
6.8 African
4.4 East_Asian
1.6 Baltic


Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08825979 Balkan_Med
0.09978925 Atlantic
0.16856359 Baltic
0.16874545 Caucasian
0.57987907 East_Asian
0.71170826 African

[Luso]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 3.0333% / 0.03033273
59.4 Atlantic
35.6 Balkan_Med
4.0 African
1.0 Caucasian

Distance to: Luso_scaled
0.06132447 Atlantic
0.06819079 Balkan_Med
0.15712368 Baltic
0.17693069 Caucasian
0.61326177 East_Asian
0.74009787 African

[Chris596]

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.8209% / 0.01820901
44.2 Balkan_Med
32.8 Baltic
13.6 Atlantic
7.4 Caucasian
2.0 East_Asian

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.05707641 Balkan_Med
0.09157770 Atlantic
0.10663682 Baltic
0.16388403 Caucasian
0.58768232 East_Asian
0.76482312 African

---------------------------------

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.1116% / 0.04111640
54.8 Balkan_Med
19.6 Baltic
12.0 Caucasian
10.2 Atlantic
3.4 East_Asian

Distance to: ChrisFather
0.05551790 Balkan_Med
0.10378370 Atlantic
0.13546708 Baltic
0.14854527 Caucasian
0.58043785 East_Asian
0.76327957 African

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2779% / 0.02277875
78.0 Atlantic
10.4 Caucasian
6.6 Balkan_Med
2.8 African
2.2 Baltic

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.04529373 Atlantic
0.07317378 Balkan_Med
0.15388753 Baltic
0.17844017 Caucasian
0.61515078 East_Asian
0.75180926 African

[Albannach]

Surprising result, I thought Baltic would be my closest match in this calculator, and I also thought it would be my biggest component, I also seem to have quite a bit more Caucasian than the other Isles people in this thread.

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 4.7824% / 0.04782363
49.6 Atlantic
42.6 Baltic
7.8 Caucasian

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.08530569 Atlantic
0.10140124 Baltic
0.11013811 Balkan_Med
0.20151900 Caucasian
0.61864254 East_Asian
0.77793954 African

[JamesBond007]

Surprising result, I thought Baltic would be my closest match in this calculator, and I also thought it would be my biggest component, I also seem to have quite a bit more Caucasian than the other Isles people in this thread.

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 4.7824% / 0.04782363
49.6 Atlantic
42.6 Baltic
7.8 Caucasian

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.08530569 Atlantic
0.10140124 Baltic
0.11013811 Balkan_Med
0.20151900 Caucasian
0.61864254 East_Asian
0.77793954 African

Dude, I think this calculator sucks because there is no north_sea component hence this distance is not good :

4.7824% / 0.04782363

3 and below is good and natives tend to score 2.5 and below. I guarantee you that if you added a north_sea component your distance score/percentage would be closer and more reasonable.

[JamesBond007]

Without North_Sea :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 4.9676% / 0.04967558 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Atlantic
38.8 Baltic
5.2 Caucasian
0.8 East_Asian
0.4 African

With North_Sea :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 1.5592% / 0.01559188 | ADC: 0.25x
94.0 North_Sea
6.0 Atlantic

[Elias.99]

Target: Elias_scaled
Distance: 9.3195% / 0.09319548 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 Balkan_Med
34.6 Caucasian
12.8 African
4.0 Atlantic
0.2 East_Asian

Target: Elias_scaled
Distance: 9.1949% / 0.09194860
38.6 Caucasian
30.4 Balkan_Med
15.6 Atlantic
13.8 African
1.6 East_Asian

Distance to: Elias_scaled
0.15253671 Balkan_Med
0.16219782 Caucasian
0.19472660 Atlantic
0.25903544 Baltic
0.58799849 East_Asian
0.65839777 African