Which modern population is genetically the most Proto-European?

[cyberlorian]

Which modern population is genetically the most Proto-European?

[Livin]

You mean WHG?

[Ayetooey]

Bosnians.

[cyberlorian]

You mean WHG?

Are WHG Proto-Europid?

[cyberlorian]

Bosnians.

:D

[TheMaestro]

Denmark

[Livin]

Are WHG Proto-Europid?

I think.

[Bobby Martnen]

Whoever has the highest percentage of I1

[cyberlorian]

I think.

Then, Eastonians are the most Proto-European ones?

"This map compares the genes of modern people to the DNA of a Mesolithic hunter-gatherer from the Loschbour cave in Luxembourg, who lived 8,000 years ago and belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup I2a1b and mtDNA haplogroup U5b1a. The sample was tested by Lazaridis et al. (2014). It is supposed to reflect the percentage of similarity with the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic inhabitants of Western Europe. Nowadays this admixture peaks among the Estonians (49.5%), Finns (47%), Lithuanians (46.5%), Icelanders (45.5%) and Orcadians (45.5%)."

[Freeroostah]

Whoever has the highest percentage of I1

This

Probably Northern territories of Norway and Sweden (excluding the Sami peoples)

[Livin]

Then, Eastonians are the most Proto-European ones?

"This map compares the genes of modern people to the DNA of a Mesolithic hunter-gatherer from the Loschbour cave in Luxembourg, who lived 8,000 years ago and belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup I2a1b and mtDNA haplogroup U5b1a. The sample was tested by Lazaridis et al. (2014). It is supposed to reflect the percentage of similarity with the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic inhabitants of Western Europe. Nowadays this admixture peaks among the Estonians (49.5%), Finns (47%), Lithuanians (46.5%), Icelanders (45.5%) and Orcadians (45.5%)."

Balts and scandinavians IMO.

[Iloko]

My guess would have to be Sardinians

[michal3141]

My guess would have to be Sardinians

Sardinians are neolithic. They came from Anatolia and Levant.

[michal3141]

Balts and scandinavians IMO.

1. Balts (Latvians and Lithuanians)
2. Northern Slavs, Finns, Scandinavians, NW-Europeans
3. Rest

[Livin]

Sardinians are neolithic. They came from Anatolia and Levant.

Actually sardnians are a mix between neolithic anatolians and western hunter gatherers if i rememeber well.

[Kelmendasi]

Balts have the most WHG admix iirc

[Kelmendasi]

Whoever has the highest percentage of I1
Not really. I-M170 in general is WHG so I2 as well. I1 seems to have been in very small numbers during the Paleolithic and Mesolithic, it's numbers increased during the Neolithic. I2 has always been common in Europe.

[michal3141]

Actually sardnians are a mix between neolithic anatolians and western hunter gatherers if i rememeber well.

And so are Basques. Still it is Northern Europe (especially the area of the Baltic Sea) where the most WHG admixture remained.

[Livin]

And so are Basques. Still it is Northern Europe (especially the area of the Baltic Sea) where the most WHG admixture remained.

What about Poles?

[Mens-Sarda]

Sardinians are neolithic. They came from Anatolia and Levant.

Most of Sardinians instead are I2a1 (between 37 to 45%). These must be the original inhabitants of Sardinia, living here before other cultures from the Aegean-Anatolian area arrived.

Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is notable for its strong presence in Sardinia. Haplogroup I-M170 comprises approximately 40% of all patrilines among the Sardinians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinians), and I2a1a-M26 is the predominant type of I among them.
Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is practically absent east of France and Italy,[91] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#cite_note-Rootsi-91) while it is found at low but significant frequencies outside of Sardinia in the Balearic Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balearic_Islands), Castile-León (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castile_(historical_region)), the Basque Country (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_(historical_territory)), the Pyrenees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrenees), southern and western France, and parts of the Maghreb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb) in North Africa, Great Britain, and Ireland. Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 appears to be the only subclade of Haplogroup I-M170 found among the Basques (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_people), but appears to be found at somewhat higher frequencies among the general populations of Castile-León (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castile_(historical_region)) in Spain and Béarn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9arn) in France than among the population of ethnic Basques.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] The M26 mutation is found in native males inhabiting every geographic region where megaliths may be found, including such far-flung and culturally disconnected regions as the Canary Islands, the Balearic Isles, Corsica, Ireland, and Sweden.[91] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#cite_note-Rootsi-91)
The distribution of I2a1a-M26 also mirrors that of the Atlantic Bronze Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Bronze_Age) cultures, which indicates a potential spread via the obsidian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian) trade or a regular maritime exchange of some of metallurgical products.

[michal3141]

What about Poles?

Poles are Northern Slavs.

They are very similar to Balts but with slightly more neolithic admixture (ENF admixture).

I think overall the map below is a pretty good indication of WHG (or any HG) admixture that I (and some other people here) consider Proto-European:

http://i61.tinypic.com/4zvlh3.png

[michal3141]

Most of Sardinians instead are I2a1 (between 37 to 45%). These must be the original inhabitants of Sardinia, living here before other cultures from the Aegean-Anatolian area arrived.

Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is notable for its strong presence in Sardinia. Haplogroup I-M170 comprises approximately 40% of all patrilines among the Sardinians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinians), and I2a1a-M26 is the predominant type of I among them.
Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is practically absent east of France and Italy,[91] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#cite_note-Rootsi-91) while it is found at low but significant frequencies outside of Sardinia in the Balearic Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balearic_Islands), Castile-León (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castile_(historical_region)), the Basque Country (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_(historical_territory)), the Pyrenees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrenees), southern and western France, and parts of the Maghreb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb) in North Africa, Great Britain, and Ireland. Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 appears to be the only subclade of Haplogroup I-M170 found among the Basques (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_people), but appears to be found at somewhat higher frequencies among the general populations of Castile-León (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castile_(historical_region)) in Spain and Béarn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9arn) in France than among the population of ethnic Basques.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] The M26 mutation is found in native males inhabiting every geographic region where megaliths may be found, including such far-flung and culturally disconnected regions as the Canary Islands, the Balearic Isles, Corsica, Ireland, and Sweden.[91] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170#cite_note-Rootsi-91)
The distribution of I2a1a-M26 also mirrors that of the Atlantic Bronze Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Bronze_Age) cultures, which indicates a potential spread via the obsidian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian) trade or a regular maritime exchange of some of metallurgical products.

OK. Well, Sardinians are mixed as all Europeans.
They are a mix of HG + neolithic (Anatolia/Levant) so my comment about Sardinians being neolithic was imprecise.
I did not mean they are only neolithic but rather that their neolithic influence is strong autosomally.
Haplogroups are interesting but sometimes they do not correspond well with autosomal ancestry.