Worst DNA Testing Company

[Dukagjini]

In your opinion what is the worst DNA testing company? I thought 23andme was good, but this v5 chip sucks imo and is very basic and bland.

[TheMaestro]

MyHeritage, you can't go worse.

[Bobby Martnen]

Any of the calculators that use fictitiously reconstructed "ancient populations" instead of modern groupings.

[Jana]

Go for AncestryDNA, it's even better with all the updates.

[Dukagjini]

Go for AncestryDNA, it's even better with all the updates.

Ancestry looks good, are the recent updates accurate in your opinion?

[Jana]

Ancestry looks good, are the recent updates accurate in your opinion?

It works better for Western Europeans, very detailed breakdown for them. Stears got 100% Eastern European after update, not very informative :)

[Kaspias]

MyHeritage and FTDNA.

[Vasconcelos]

Myheritage is pretty shit, I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole

[JosephK]

Ancestry is great for my mother (1/2 Slovak and 1/2 "American pioneer"), but horrible for everyone else. I think you can't be too mixed for it to work well, but I guess that goes for any of them.

[Ayetooey]

Myheritage, told me I am 60 percent Balkan when I am 50 percent max, I'm starting to think 23andme is kind of dogshit also and only useful for haplogroups, my ancestrydna results should be here in a few days, it seems more accurate than 23andme.

[Moje ime]

I tested only with MyHeritage and I got dna raw data, uploading it to gedmatch and similar sites without problem.
So I would like to read your arguments against this company instead just blabla.
:rolleyes:
I only dislike that it doesn't offer haplogroups.

[Ayetooey]

I tested only with MyHeritage and I got dna raw data, uploading it to gedmatch and similar sites without problem.
So I would like to read your arguments against this company instead just blabla.
:rolleyes:
I only dislike that it doesn't offer haplogroups.

I have 1 Serb parent, yet Myheritage told me I am 60 percent Balkan, so from my experience it's impossibly inaccurate.

[GreentheViper]

MyHeritage & WeGene.

[Moje ime]

Myheritage, told me I am 60 percent Balkan when I am 50 percent max, I'm starting to think 23andme is kind of dogshit also and only useful for haplogroups, my ancestrydna results should be here in a few days, it seems more accurate than 23andme.

Absolutely not important what it says, every company has different grouping. Important is raw code.

We all have big Balkan component because it contains lot of e. Europe, I don't see what's the big deal.

[digital_noise]

Ancestry's update is garbage for people like me who are roughly 70% West/NW Euro and 25-30% SE Euro. 23 and Me is alright, its the only test tht has recognized the 125 Swedish I have. Ancestry missed it both times, My Heritage missed it, FTDNA autosomal transfer missed it...

The 23 and Me V5 data is trash if you want to use Gedmatch, but I did the V5 to V3 conversion and it basically gives results what the Ancestry and My Heritage raw data give.

That said, everyone sh*ts on My Heritage and I agree the details are lacking but its the only test that accurately acknowledges the 25-30% Southern Italian I have. Ihave found that you need to not pay attention to the details and just use it as a regional test.

I will say that DNA Tribes has been the best autosomal analysis I have had. There are a couple things that I dont get like the Finnish and the Balto-North Slav and the basque but everything else makes sense. Too bad they dont offer that service anymore.

WeGene was awful. Comically awful

[Vasconcelos]

I tested only with MyHeritage and I got dna raw data, uploading it to gedmatch and similar sites without problem.
So I would like to read your arguments against this company instead just blabla.
:rolleyes:
I only dislike that it doesn't offer haplogroups.

Just saw a native Portuguese guy scoring almost 30% Scandinavian on myheritage, now he thinks he's some kind of Viking, the poor sod. If that doesn't scream bullshit I don't know what will



I myself tested with 23andme with the V5 chip, it gave me a bucketload of Iberian and only very low amounts of other stuff (2% Italian and 3.1% Broadly NW Euro). When I converted to V3 and ran the results on GEDmatch, the trend was the same, I do indeed seem to be very characteristically Iberian with lower correlation with other Europeans (north or south) than most Portuguese. Davidski's Global 25 and CelticVSGermanic models showed the same trend. So overall, and I might be in the minority here, I'm actually really happy with 23andme

[Ayetooey]

Absolutely not important what it says, every company has different grouping. Important is raw code.

Ws all have big Balkan component because it contains lot of e. Europe, I don't see what's the big deal.

There is no way I have any Balkan from my mother lol, the test is inaccurate. Also told me I am 30 percent Irish lol. This is just my personal experience.

Do it for the raw code sure, but I am just saying my autosomal results are completely nonsensical.

[Moje ime]

Just saw a native Portuguese guy scoring almost 30% Scandinavian on myheritage, now he thinks he's some kind of Viking, the poor sod. If that doesn't scream bullshit I don't know what will

He should do Gedmatch that is only important.

[Moje ime]

There is no way I have any Balkan from my mother lol, the test is inaccurate. Also told me I am 30 percent Irish lol. This is just my personal experience.

Do it for the raw code sure, but I am just saying my autosomal results are completely nonsensical.

And did you use code for gedmatch? Is it accurate?

[Thanas Django]

what's the best?

[Ayetooey]

And did you use code for gedmatch? Is it accurate?

No I used my 23andme code, which was fairly accurate, my myheritage results were a free upload from 23andme.

[Moje ime]

I have 87% Balkan on MyHeritage but I as all other Serbs have around 50%/50% Greece/Poland results on Gedmatcs. Also I'm western shifted little bit more from other Serbian results, that appeared in my MyHeritage result autosomal as well so for me everything is accurate.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207548-Post-your-MyHeritage-DNA-results!&p=5177892&viewfull=1#post5177892

[Mingle]

MyHeritage and FTDNA.

What's wrong with FTDNA?

[Vasconcelos]

He should do Gedmatch that is only important.

GEDmatch isn't some sort of end all be all tool, although it's nice to compare your results with others of your own ethnicity (and they may or may not be consistent). Even Davidski has moved on to Global 25 form of those calculators

[Leto]

FTDNA is good enough for us Eastern Europeans. I'm not sure about the Middle East, South Asia, East Asia, etc. Maybe not bad either.

[Pubiczar]

I used to think MyHeritage DNA is bad but now I am convinced 23andMe is worse.
Everyone from Balkans seems to get Greece as highly likely or possible match but not other Balkan countries.
Also their Balkan category is pretty much crap as all Balkan countries, even Croatia are lumped together with Albania or Greece :picard1:

I am now on the opinion that MyHeritage DNA is actually good for South Eastern Europeans.

[Freeroostah]

It works better for Western Europeans, very detailed breakdown for them. Stears got 100% Eastern European after update, not very informative :)

AncestryDNA put many Central European countries like Hungary and Austria in the "East European" group. You should inform Stears just to feel relieved :)

[Kriptc06]

I agree on MyHeritage, although you could use gedmatch with their rawdata just fine.

[Freeroostah]

what's the best?

AncestryDNA for ethnicity estimates and FTDNA for haplogroup (...imo)

[Kaspias]

What's wrong with FTDNA?

Shows me 50 West Asian and 20 west european, very very wrong i guess?

[MercifulServant]

Myheritage. Shitty reference populations and shitty in general.

[Mingle]

Shows me 50 West Asian and 20 west european, very very wrong i guess?

Okay. On a related note, which test do you think would have the most compatible chip with GEDmatch? I heard that 23andMe's V5 chip isn't very compatible whereas FTDNA's is.

[Vasconcelos]

Okay. On a related note, which test do you think would have the most compatible chip with GEDmatch? I heard that 23andMe's V5 chip isn't very compatible whereas FTDNA's is.

Converting to V3 works just fine, and it's free. However 23andme might be more suited for some groups (those of British of Iberian descent) than others (SE Euros). Don't quote me on this, though

[Kaspias]

Okay. On a related note, which test do you think would have the most compatible chip with GEDmatch? I heard that 23andMe's V5 chip isn't very compatible whereas FTDNA's is.

I heard MyHeritage is best for compatibility, i'm not sure though. But clearly it is not 23andme lol

[Ayetooey]

I heard MyHeritage is best for compatibility, i'm not sure though. But clearly it is not 23andme lol

Will Ancestrydna be more compatible than v5 23andme?

I converted my V5 to V3 for 23andme but I question its reliability since it wasn't an official thing.

[Mingle]

Will Ancestrydna be more compatible than v5 23andme?

I converted my V5 to V3 for 23andme but I question its reliability since it wasn't an official thing.

I also converted to V3 and I got a bit of SSA on some calcs that wasn't there before. But for most calcs, my results stayed exactly the same which is another thing that made me question it. I'm planning on taking another DNA test soon to know for sure where I'd plot. I heard FTDNA was my best bet, but MyHeritage may be better.

[Leto]

Okay. On a related note, which test do you think would have the most compatible chip with GEDmatch? I heard that 23andMe's V5 chip isn't very compatible whereas FTDNA's is.
Yes, Family Tree and MyHeritage are the best for this.

[Vasconcelos]

I converted my V5 to V3 for 23andme but I question its reliability since it wasn't an official thing.

I've seen plenty of people on anthrogenica using converted 23andme and FTDNA data and the GEDmatch results have been identical. It seems accurate enough

[Leto]

I also converted to V3 and I got a bit of SSA on some calcs that wasn't there before. But for most calcs, my results stayed exactly the same which is another thing that made me question it. I'm planning on taking another DNA test soon to know for sure where I'd plot. I heard FTDNA was my best bet, but MyHeritage may be better.
Go for FTDNA, in November there will be another Christmas sale, it must be very cheap (like 60 bucks or so).

[Slavic Italian]

The nice thing about My Heritage is there are a lot of foreign people using it and it's a easy way for me to look at my matches to learn my true roots. My ancestors sure got around.

[Ayetooey]

The nice thing about My Heritage is there are a lot of foreign people using it and it's a easy way for me to look at my matches to learn my true roots. My ancestors sure got around.

I question the matches on there, a match which is said to be my 5th cousin on 23andme is apparently a 3rd cousin on myheritage.

[Slavic Italian]

I question the matches on there, a match which is said to be my 5th cousin on 23andme is apparently a 3rd cousin on myheritage.

I've noticed a lot of difference in their matching algorithm. But at least I know they are matches. As someone who is mixed it is a start and very helpful. I thought Lukas K36 might be in error when it gave me some Latvia but then I found some matches on My Heritage. So there is some substance.

[Ayetooey]

I've noticed a lot of difference in their matching algorithm. But at least I know they are matches. As someone who is mixed it is a start and very helpful. I thought Lukas K36 might be in error when it gave me some Latvia but then I found some matches on My Heritage. So there is some substance.

Was this Lukas K36 accurate overall? I just looked it up and it seems interesting, I may pay for it.

[Slavic Italian]

Was this Lukas K36 accurate overall? I just looked it up and it seems interesting, I may pay for it.

In some ways it is VERY accurate. Well worth it. There are a few things I question but nothing substancial. He's a sharp boy.

[Gründig]

Will Ancestrydna be more compatible than v5 23andme?

I converted my V5 to V3 for 23andme but I question its reliability since it wasn't an official thing.


I also converted to V3 and I got a bit of SSA on some calcs that wasn't there before. But for most calcs, my results stayed exactly the same which is another thing that made me question it. I'm planning on taking another DNA test soon to know for sure where I'd plot. I heard FTDNA was my best bet, but MyHeritage may be better.


I've seen plenty of people on anthrogenica using converted 23andme and FTDNA data and the GEDmatch results have been identical. It seems accurate enough

I spoke with Wilhelm (guy who made conversion program) about the conversion and it seems pretty legit to me. He says they are very comparable to the FTDNA raw data. After doing it and comparing my V5 and V3, my V3 made more sense. All my results were similar (which they should be), just some populations were moved around to be more realistic and distances were shortened. All my plots stayed in the same areas but moved just a bit.

I tried and compared them on gedmatch, global25 (and all davidskis plots), Lm genetics (from K36) and uploaded both to Myheritage (where they were very similar but both garbage results). All in all, the V3 conversion worked well for me.

I asked David his opinion (since I like his global25 and eurogenes) and he recommended FTDNA or ancestrydna. He said the V5 works fine on these calculators it's just not the best. I'm waiting for my ancestrydna results and may do FTDNA next.

[Kaspias]

Will Ancestrydna be more compatible than v5 23andme?

I converted my V5 to V3 for 23andme but I question its reliability since it wasn't an official thing.

Ancestry would be more reliable.

[Leto]

I spoke with Wilhelm (guy who made conversion program) about the conversion and it seems pretty legit to me. He says they are very comparable to the FTDNA raw data. After doing it and comparing my V5 and V3, my V3 made more sense. All my results were similar (which they should be), just some populations were moved around to be more realistic and distances were shortened. All my plots stayed in the same areas but moved just a bit.

I tried and compared them on gedmatch, global25 (and all davidskis plots), Lm genetics (from K36) and uploaded both to Myheritage (where they were very similar but both garbage results). All in all, the V3 conversion worked well for me.

I asked David his opinion (since I like his global25 and eurogenes) and he recommended FTDNA or ancestrydna. He said the V5 works fine on these calculators it's just not the best. I'm waiting for my ancestrydna results and may do FTDNA next.
Does he even plan on adding some new calculators to GM.com?

[Gründig]

Does he even plan on adding some new calculators to GM.com?

I have no idea. He mentioned to me something about creating a test similar to K13 but I haven't heard anything since. This was about maybe 4 months ago or so. Maybe he posted it somewhere and I just missed it?

[Token]

MyHeritage should contract a data scientist immediately. There is nothing wrong with their testing process and there is nothing wrong with the raw data produced, but their ancestry report is seriously flawed.

[Thracian]

Almost all of them tell similar things. I took 23andMe and FTDNA. I uploaded my rawdatas to MyHeritage.

FTDNA and MyHeritage (FTDNA and 23andMe rawdatas) gave me some British Isles (10%, 11% and 15%). 23andMe gave me 0% British Isles.

I got 20% Eastern European on FTDNA and MyHeritage gave me 22% and 30% Balkan. 23andMe gave me 69.5% Balkan and 5.5 Eastern European and after the update both dramatically changed. My Balkan went down to 60.7% and Eastern European went down to 3.2%. The main problem for 23andMe, they consider South Slavs and Southeastern Europeans such as Greeks and Albanians in same basket.

MyHeritage gives Greek most likely as Balkan native. But the problem is it also represents Cypriot Greeks. That means the Greek component in MyHeritage hides some Middle Eastern. We can say same thing about FTDNA's Anatolia component. Some Greeks and Italians have it up to 20% or even some more. Some Turks, Greeks (Greeks from Cappadocia and Pontos) and Armenians get 100% Anatolia in FTDNA. When they upload their rawdata to gedmatch they all have different scores.

I haven't tried livingdna and ancestry. So, I have no idea about them. Gedmatch calculators tell different stories. I want to try Global 25 but need to observe what do people think about it.

In my case, 23andMe looks slightly better than FTDNA and MyHeritage as a commercial company. Lukasz also gave the one of the accurate results.

[digital_noise]

For the 25% Calabrian I have, FTDNA gave me 8% SE Europe, 12% Asia Minor and 3% West Middle east.

[kleenex]

WeGene has to be the absolute worst autoosmal platform in the world.

[digital_noise]

weGene, based on Ancestry upload and 23and Me

86% Hungarian
7.8% Sardinian
4% Indian
1.2% Ashkenazi

47% Hungarian
17% Spanish
13% Finland/Russia
11% Sardinian
4% English
3% Ashkenazi
2% French

Comical. They got both haplogroups correct though