View Full Version : My Doug McDonald results.
Efim45
04-23-2011, 05:43 PM
:(Most likely fit is 87.1% (+- 3.4%) Europe (all Northeast Europe)
and 2.0% (+- 0.2%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)
and 10.9% (+- 3.3%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Belorus= 0.883 North Han= 0.019 Bedouin = 0.098
Belorus= 0.882 Tu= 0.020 Bedouin = 0.098
Lithuanian= 0.694 North Han= 0.027 Jewish= 0.280
But other tests (the PCA "scatter" plot with the Jews at the top)
clearly show that the Jewish is correct.
The E. Asian usually means that there is a Siberian in your
distant past, but of course a real Chinese is possible.
:eek:
Holy Cow! This is actually pretty accurate, I know that all my grandparents are from Russia, but one has unknown ancestry I am guessing he is a mix of Ashkenazi and Eastern European. My maternal grandmother's ancestors lived in Siberia for a while, so I'm guessing one of the colonizer's mated with a Siberian. If it is true my grandfather is Ashkenazi, I am about 73% Russian(with Finno-Ugric) and 2% Siberian.Yikes!:(
Agrippa
04-23-2011, 05:47 PM
Where did he put you on the map and plot, in which countries or between which populations?
Efim45
04-23-2011, 05:54 PM
On the map he put me between at the intersection between Poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, and Hungary. On the plot with Jewish on top, I am being "pulled away from Russia and the baltic countries to Jewish. On the other plot, It is similar with me being between Russia and Jewish, closer to Russia.
Efim45
04-23-2011, 05:56 PM
So this means that the 1% on ancestry painting wasn't complete B.S.
Efim45
04-24-2011, 04:54 PM
Well as long as I'm not considered a jew under Jewish law and if Hitler considered Slavs as Aryans, I could've fought in the German army under the Nuremberg laws, so I guess it's okay.
Agrippa
04-24-2011, 05:32 PM
Well as long as I'm not considered a jew under Jewish law and if Hitler considered Slavs as Aryans, I could've fought in the German army under the Nuremberg laws, so I guess it's okay.
As a quarter Jew, there were only a few limitations under German law then, no serious problems, just in certain fields, f.e. no easy entry as an officer of the Wehrmacht or membership in the SS.
Yet some people hid their Jewish ancestry for a better career, like one of the later Social Democratic chancellors Germany had after the 2nd WW, namely Helmut Schmidt, who was adopted and the illegitimate son of a Jewish banker - so he became an officer in the German army - with a faked "Ariernachweis".
Efim45
04-24-2011, 05:48 PM
Problem is I don't know if I am a quarter jew or a an eighth jew. It would help if I knew around the average percentage of Mideastern/European of Ashkenazi jews, to figure it out. Wasn't there an author that claimed there were 150,000 mischlinge in the German army or something along those lines?
Agrippa
04-24-2011, 05:53 PM
Problem is I don't know if I am a quarter jew or a an eighth jew. It would help if I knew around the average percentage of Mideastern/European of Ashkenazi jews, to figure it out. Wasn't there an author that claimed there were 150,000 mischlinge in the German army or something along those lines?
There are many authors and many estimates...
However, to rely too much on "Mideastern" for Jewish ancestry might not always be right, since Mideastern could come from non-Jewish and a rather European component from Jews, since especially those in the East are often highly mixed with a strong "non-Middle Eastern" component.
So you need to know, in any case, both the Middle Eastern level of your home areas and that of the Jews, at best the parent which is suspected to be half-Jewish then should do the test, this would make it clear if the level rises to a concrete number.
Anyway, who cares for that, me not, since the greatest problem with Jews is if they act wrong - otherwise they are no big issue.
You have no Armenid features or do you? ;)
Efim45
04-24-2011, 06:03 PM
Im pretty much like my grandfather(mix of Russian, Finnish and Mordvin.) my 3 grandparents that I know and have seen, are dark haired and light eyed. I am like my paternal grandfather, light brown eyes, brown hair, same nose, similar head and of medium height(5'10). My father definitely doesn't have any Mideastern. I am positive that the Mideastern is Jewish and such. On the world map, My European dot is pulled from between Baltic states to between Poland and Lithuania. I suppose that means my grandfathers European ancestry is from Poland and Germany because that is were Ashkenazis used to live. He was probably around 43.6 % Semite and 56.4% European. My hair is kind of curly, which is also a marker of Jewish ancestry.
Agrippa
04-24-2011, 06:13 PM
My hair is kind of curly, which is also a marker of Jewish ancestry.
Well, no secure one though, since most Jews have no that curly hair and many non-Jews have it...
Efim45
04-24-2011, 06:34 PM
Yeah I know. The only real thing these results change is that I am never having children now.
Yeah I know. The only real thing these results change is that I am never having children now.
why?
Judging by my east baltid eyes, I almost definitely have minor lappoid (partly mongoloid) ancestry, like many Slavs do. I, however, still plan on having children :thumb001:
Efim45
04-24-2011, 07:01 PM
why?
Call it a personal decision. I think many Eastern Europeans have minor Asian ancestry considering all those historical invasions.
Agrippa
04-24-2011, 07:23 PM
Yeah I know. The only real thing these results change is that I am never having children now.
Whenever I hear that, because of "such minor issues", I consider it being a bad excuse for someone who was "too lazy" or otherwhise not willing to found and keep a family anyway...
There are even people around, which say that, but fuck many good women - just for the sake of it and probably making them worse partners for others. But oh well, they are so nice, "they don't want to have children".
I don't want to say it about you, as I don't know you, but I just saw it in some people, which were, like many Liberals, Hedonists and career oriented people, rather unwilling to have a family anyway and something like that just gave them a "morally acceptable excuse" - for certain social environments at least.
Yet, unless these people have BAD GENETIC TRAITS IN DETAIL or are otherwise BAD POTENTIAL PARENTS, it is no good one, especially since there are so many non-Europeans with too many children, while the European people are dying in a Demographic catastrophy, in which being too picky is not something we can afford even, until we made the turn at least...
Efim45
04-24-2011, 07:43 PM
Well I could have a child with a pure European woman, and one day the bad genes would be very miniscule. Didn't Hitler prohibit marriages between quarter Jews and other quarter Jews, so that there wouldn't be a strengthening of foreign blood?
Agrippa
04-24-2011, 07:54 PM
Well I could have a child with a pure European woman, and one day the bad genes would be very miniscule. Didn't Hitler prohibit marriages between quarter Jews and other quarter Jews, so that there wouldn't be a strengthening of foreign blood?
As far as I know, yes.
Because if someone with one quarter of something, Jewish or whatever, marries a full blood, obviously the resulting 1/8 will be too low for having a significant impact in most of the cases and someone which both parents being mixed might also have a "more mixed identity" than somone who knows that just ONE of his 8 grandparents was X.
Which means both the blood and identity will be reduced to nothing in the near future - unlike if you have a "mixed bunch of people" forming a group on their own, which might foster a rather foreign identity and more foreign traits will come up more often as well in them...
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