Central Euro ( K36) in a North African : where could it come from?

[YellowSkinnedMed]

I'm from Northern Morocco :

Kit Number: PL9683193 Elapsed Time: 11.09 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 6.47 Pct
Armenian 0.68 Pct
Basque 4.33 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.19 Pct
East_African 0.19 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 4.91 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 6.17 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.21 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.68 Pct
North_African 28.97 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 12.63 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese 0.10 Pct
Volga-Ural -
West_African 1.57 Pct
West_Caucasian 0.52 Pct
West_Med 12.38 Pct

[Dick]

Central Euro is Poland. Great components


https://i.imgur.com/VQ3kQ9F.jpg

[Coolguy1]

Dont pay too much attention to high k calculators. They can be very erratic.

[Dick]

Dont pay too much attention to high k calculators. They can be very erratic.

That's what petalpusher said. K20 tops

[TheMaestro]

Central Euro is Poland. Great components


https://i.imgur.com/VQ3kQ9F.jpg

I score highest Italian, what makes this calculator bullshit.

[Vasconcelos]

That's what petalpusher said. K20 tops

Well Global 25 is pretty great and probably the best. Otherwise, as far as Eurogenes go, I agree - K15 is my favourite of those. But Lukasz K36 report is neat because he has so many references to compare you with

[Peterski]

Check this - https://www.slavorum.org/slavic-fortress-in-morocco-poles-in-search-of-the-ancient-african-secret/amp/

Also Vandal admixture is a possible explanation.


Dont pay too much attention to high k calculators. They can be very erratic.

At Max Planck's they are now using high K calculators in statistics courses for their genetics students.

The old opinion that low K is better is obsolete now.

[YellowSkinnedMed]

Check this - https://www.slavorum.org/slavic-fortress-in-morocco-poles-in-search-of-the-ancient-african-secret/amp/

Also Vandal admixture is a possible explanation.



At Max Planck's they are now using high K calculators in statistics courses for their genetics students.

The old opinion that low K is better is obsolete now.

It's really weird; I've tested more than 30 north african kits now : I'm the only one to get Central Euro in K36.

And thanks for the link; really interesting. Never knew that there were slaves in the Rif region; let alone slavic slaves....

[StonyArabia]

Barbary slaves possibly or Vandals and Alans

[SexyLionMan]

It's really weird; I've tested more than 30 north african kits now : I'm the only one to get Central Euro in K36.

And thanks for the link; really interesting. Never knew that there were slaves in the Rif region; let alone slavic slaves....

I agree it’s ’s possible you could descend from people from Central Europe that accompanied the Vandals and Alans to North Africa Morocco?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Vandals_Migration_pt.gif

[YellowSkinnedMed]

Barbary slaves possibly or Vandals and Alans

https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Beni+Ammart,+Maroc/@34.8043683,-4.170018,1404m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd75bde7f1f35f39:0xb102e8 30fa7d17f9!8m2!3d34.8115488!4d-4.1596946

My parents were born in some of these hovels, most people in my tribe are still illiterate; I don't think there were Barbary slaves over there.. :icon_lol:

[MsSPF]

https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Beni+Ammart,+Maroc/@34.8043683,-4.170018,1404m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd75bde7f1f35f39:0xb102e8 30fa7d17f9!8m2!3d34.8115488!4d-4.1596946

My parents were born in some of these hovels, most people in my tribe are still illiterate; I don't think there were Barbary slaves over there.. :icon_lol:

These small "Northern/Central European" % are, for a reason I ignore, very frequent among Riffians and their neighbors. You are not the only one and am myself concerned by it (score some Northern European % there and there but not in all calcs + very unusual MTdna). I am from NorthWestern Algeria, Tlemcen and I cluster very close (if not the same) to Riffians genetically speaking.

Different hypothesis :
- geographical proximity to Iberian peninsula/Europe
- Distant European ancestors not necessiraly Vandals or NorthEuropeans, they could be Iberians with a "northern-european affinity" (which would make more sense for the region)
- the most eccentric but who knows possible option : Vandals invasion? not entirely convinced

Don't know if it makes sense to you, on peut en parler en français si tu veux ;-)

[YellowSkinnedMed]

These small "Northern/Central European" % are, for a reason I ignore, very frequent among Riffians and their neighbors. You are not the only one and am myself concerned by it (score some Northern European % there and there but not in all calcs + very unusual MTdna). I am from NorthWestern Algeria, Tlemcen and I cluster very close (if not the same) to Riffians genetically speaking.

Different hypothesis :
- geographical proximity to Iberian peninsula/Europe
- Distant European ancestors not necessiraly Vandals or NorthEuropeans, they could be Iberians with a "northern-european affinity" (which would make more sense for the region)
- the most eccentric but who knows possible option : Vandals invasion? not entirely convinced

Don't know if it makes sense to you, on peut en parler en français si tu veux ;-)

But have you ever seen another maghrebi scoring central euro on k36?

[MsSPF]

But have you ever seen another maghrebi scoring central euro on k36?

No, it's definitely unusual, you surely have a Euro ancestor but some "northern euro" elements occurs from time to time among Riffians from what I noticed