Guess which part of UK or Ireland this person is from!

[Sikeliot]

Eurogenes K15:


# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 40.91
2 Atlantic 29.05
3 Eastern_Euro 9.32
4 Baltic 6.91
5 West_Med 6.31
6 West_Asian 5.42
7 South_Asian 1.44
8 Siberian 0.41
9 Northeast_African 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3
2 West_Scottish 5.15
3 Irish 6.17
4 North_Dutch 6.24
5 Danish 6.3
6 Southeast_English 6.54
7 West_Norwegian 7.19
8 Southwest_English 7.48
9 Norwegian 8.2
10 North_German 9.2
11 Swedish 10.06
12 West_German 11.53
13 South_Dutch 11.78
14 North_Swedish 13.03
15 French 15.5
16 East_German 17.74
17 Southwest_Finnish 19.21
18 Austrian 21.91
19 Finnish 22.15
20 Hungarian 22.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.2% Orcadian + 1.8% Tabassaran @ 2.88
2 98.6% Orcadian + 1.4% Lezgin @ 2.92
3 98.7% Orcadian + 1.3% Chechen @ 2.93
4 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Kalash @ 2.93
5 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Ossetian @ 2.94
6 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.95
7 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Abhkasian @ 2.96
8 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Burusho @ 2.96
9 99.1% Orcadian + 0.9% Adygei @ 2.97
10 99.1% Orcadian + 0.9% North_Ossetian @ 2.97
11 99.1% Orcadian + 0.9% Kabardin @ 2.97
12 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Georgian @ 2.97
13 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Balochi @ 2.97
14 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.97
15 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Balkar @ 2.97
16 99.3% Orcadian + 0.7% Pathan @ 2.97
17 99.3% Orcadian + 0.7% Brahui @ 2.97
18 99.1% Orcadian + 0.9% Tadjik @ 2.98
19 99.2% Orcadian + 0.8% Kumyk @ 2.98
20 99.4% Orcadian + 0.6% Sindhi @ 2.98


Dodecad K12b:


# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.81
2 Atlantic_Med 39.52
3 Gedrosia 10.93
4 Caucasus 4.38
5 Southeast_Asian 0.27
6 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch (Dodecad) 1.45
2 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 2.05
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.18
4 English (Dodecad) 2.28
5 Kent (1000Genomes) 2.51
6 British_Isles (Dodecad) 3.74
7 Argyll (1000Genomes) 4.3
8 Orkney (1000Genomes) 4.74
9 British (Dodecad) 4.77
10 Irish (Dodecad) 4.88
11 Orcadian (HGDP) 4.89
12 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 4.91
13 German (Dodecad) 9.13
14 French (Dodecad) 9.64
15 French (HGDP) 10.23
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 10.71
17 Swedish (Dodecad) 13.29
18 Hungarians (Behar) 17.45
19 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 22.5
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 23.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 31.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 0.46
2 69.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 30.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.54
3 69.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 30.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 0.62
4 67.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 32.5% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 0.77
5 51.8% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 48.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 0.78
6 94% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 6% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.8
7 51.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 48.7% English (Dodecad) @ 0.83
8 64.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 35.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.91
9 86.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 13.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.94
10 86.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 13.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.96
11 97% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.98
12 85.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 14.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 1
13 97.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 2.9% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 1
14 79.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 20.1% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1
15 82.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 17.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.01
16 93.7% Kent (1000Genomes) + 6.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.02
17 63.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 36.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.03
18 69.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 30.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.06
19 66.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 33.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.06
20 71% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 29% British (Dodecad) @ 1.08


MDLP K23:



# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.82
2 European_Early_Farmers 28.10
3 Caucasian 20.72
4 South_Central_Asian 7.16
5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.73


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish_ @ 1.748635
2 Frisian_ @ 2.193084
3 English_ @ 2.741714
4 Belgian_ @ 3.509628
5 North_European_ @ 3.631199
6 CEU_ @ 4.048288
7 English_Kent_GBR_ @ 4.380550
8 British_ @ 4.448000
9 English_Cornwall_GBR_ @ 4.496569
10 Dutch_ @ 4.619863
11 Welsh_ @ 5.010343
12 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 5.019831
13 Orcadian_ @ 5.995580
14 South_German_ @ 6.503671
15 German-Volga_ @ 6.754385
16 Icelandic_ @ 6.961252
17 Norwegian_West_ @ 7.035908
18 Norwegian_East_ @ 7.152383
19 Dane_ @ 8.770079
20 North_German_ @ 9.046541

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Frisian_ +50% Irish_ @ 1.567919


PuntDNA-L K13:


# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 49.85
2 SW_Europe 36.12
3 West_Asia 8.47
4 South_Asia 2.61
5 Siberia 0.97
6 South_Africa 0.91
7 West_Africa 0.34
8 East_Africa 0.3
9 Oceania 0.24
10 NE_Asia 0.12
11 Americas 0.04
12 SE_Asia 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.72
2 Irish 3.75
3 Scottish 3.91
4 Utahn_European 4.2
5 English 4.57
6 German_North 6.08
7 German_South 6.34
8 Norwegian 6.46
9 Belgian 6.58
10 Hungarian 7.79
11 Slovene 8.18
12 Slovak 8.33
13 Swedish 8.56
14 Ukrainian 9.25
15 Croatian 9.79
16 French 10.08
17 Moldavian 11.7
18 Bosnian 12.26
19 Belarusian 12.92
20 Serbian 14.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98% Orcadian + 2% Paniya @ 3.28
2 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Paniya @ 3.28
3 97.8% Irish + 2.2% Mawasi @ 3.32
4 97.9% Orcadian + 2.1% Mawasi @ 3.32
5 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Pulliyar @ 3.36
6 98% Irish + 2% Pulliyar @ 3.36
7 98.2% Orcadian + 1.8% North_Kannadi @ 3.42
8 98.3% Orcadian + 1.7% Hakkipikki @ 3.42
9 98.1% Irish + 1.9% North_Kannadi @ 3.42
10 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Gond @ 3.43
11 98.2% Irish + 1.8% Hakkipikki @ 3.43
12 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Gond @ 3.44
13 98.2% Orcadian + 1.8% Chenchus @ 3.45
14 98.3% Orcadian + 1.7% Sakilli @ 3.45
15 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Chenchus @ 3.45
16 98.2% Irish + 1.8% Sakilli @ 3.46
17 98.3% Orcadian + 1.7% UP_Muslim @ 3.47
18 98.2% Irish + 1.8% UP_Muslim @ 3.49
19 98.7% Orcadian + 1.3% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.49
20 98.4% Orcadian + 1.6% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.49

[Warmian]

Northern Ireland

[Ayetooey]

I feel like you've made this thread to prove a point.

I'm going to say South-West, Devon, Cornwall, Somerset, that area.

[Sikeliot]

I feel like you've made this thread to prove a point.

I'm going to say South-West, Devon, Cornwall, Somerset, that area.

There is a point to be proven but it may not be the one you think. So based on the result just looking at it, what would you guess?

[Ayetooey]

There is a point to be proven but it may not be the one you think. So based on the result just looking at it, what would you guess?

If not what I said, I will guess south-east Ireland.

[Grace O'Malley]

Looks Irish and similar to a lot of other Irish Gedmatch results.

[Ayetooey]

This is where Sikeliot turns around and tells us its an English man from Sussex or something.

[Sikeliot]

This is where Sikeliot turns around and tells us its an English man from Sussex or something.


It's an Irish person from Galway.

The point of posting this is, this person is closer to Danes than to English on Eurogenes. So how can we say the Irish have no Germanic input and the English are Germanic people? :lol:

[Grace O'Malley]

It's an Irish person from Galway.

The point of posting this is, this person is closer to Danes than to English on Eurogenes. So how can we say the Irish have no Germanic input and the English are Germanic people? :lol:

They could even be from the Gaeltacht :) which would make them a indisputable Celt. Irish identity is Celtic and English is Anglo-Saxon and most people look at it that way. The majority of people don't know a brass razoo about genetics. So I would say it's cultural thing whether people identify as Celt or Germanic. Saying that though I don't think English people on a whole identify as Germanic.

[Ayetooey]

They could even be from the Gaeltacht :) which would make them a indisputable Celt. Irish identity is Celtic and English is Anglo-Saxon and most people look at it that way. The majority of people don't know a brass razoo about genetics. So I would say it's cultural thing whether people identify as Celt or Germanic. Saying that though I don't think English people on a whole identify as Germanic.

As a history student, I know more English people who are interested in Britannic Celt history from a personal perspective than Germanic history, it's been the historical consensus here for a long time that English are mainly Celtic but with a Germanic/Anglo-Saxon culture and if you ask someone into history they will say the English were Celts who were assimilated by the Saxons; I even know someone who has become a Celtic druid. I don't really know anyone who calls themselves Germanic in that sense. English identity is Anglo-Saxon for sure, but it's the genetic element that some people (one certain user from Belgium) like to try and dispute. It's kind of like calling Bolivians hispanic, culturally/linguistically they are, but ethnically they're not.

I think what Sikeliot is demonstrating here is that culture and identity doesn't always equate to genetics which is what some people forgot. But yes 99 percent of people don't care about this stuff, it is just fun for us history/anthro nerds lol.

[Hadouken]

I wanted to say west ireland when I looked at the component admixes but then became unsure because of the orcadian proximity

[Sikeliot]

They could even be from the Gaeltacht :) which would make them a indisputable Celt. Irish identity is Celtic and English is Anglo-Saxon and most people look at it that way. The majority of people don't know a brass razoo about genetics. So I would say it's cultural thing whether people identify as Celt or Germanic. Saying that though I don't think English people on a whole identify as Germanic.

Celtic and Germanic are cultural and linguistic labels but on a genetic basis, the Irish are not much less Germanic than the English.

Also, this person is from Connacht and again I am noticing the results to be shifted toward Scandinavia, regardless of what history claims about Viking migration.

[Grace O'Malley]

Celtic and Germanic are cultural and linguistic labels but on a genetic basis, the Irish are not much less Germanic than the English.

Also, this person is from Connacht and again I am noticing the results to be shifted toward Scandinavia, regardless of what history claims about Viking migration.

You might be interested in this from Dr Cathy Swift from the University of Limerick. She basically said that Vikings were a lot more active in the west of Ireland than previously acknowledged and this is due to less excavations in that area.

Conclusions
• Story of Vikings on west coast of Ireland has been minimised by modern historians – possibly due to lack of major excavations in Limerick.
• Shannon was the key waterway leading into interior of Ireland and was used extensively by Viking shipping.
• Limerick was major political power amongst Viking lords and contended with Dublin and Waterford for leadership of Vikings in Ireland.
• Evidence for scattered Viking communities in and around the Shannon estuary in historical documentation, archaeology, place names (see Limerick’s Viking Community by Lenore Fisch).

http://www.vikingage.mic.ul.ie/pdfs/lecture_vikings_on_the_river_shannon.pdf

[Sikeliot]

You might be interested in this from Dr Cathy Swift from the University of Limerick. She basically said that Vikings were a lot more active in the west of Ireland than previously acknowledged and this is due to less excavations in that area.

Conclusions
• Story of Vikings on west coast of Ireland has been minimised by modern historians – possibly due to lack of major excavations in Limerick.
• Shannon was the key waterway leading into interior of Ireland and was used extensively by Viking shipping.
• Limerick was major political power amongst Viking lords and contended with Dublin and Waterford for leadership of Vikings in Ireland.
• Evidence for scattered Viking communities in and around the Shannon estuary in historical documentation, archaeology, place names (see Limerick’s Viking Community by Lenore Fisch).

http://www.vikingage.mic.ul.ie/pdfs/lecture_vikings_on_the_river_shannon.pdf


This would not surprise me. In terms of genetic distance I notice so far people from Limerick, Galway, and Mayo seem more shifted toward Scandinavia than do people from Leinster. I am not sure why this would be except for high Viking impact in western Ireland.