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cyberlorian
11-05-2018, 09:54 PM
If such a type exists.

michal3141
11-05-2018, 09:58 PM
If such a type exists.

Paleo Europid = Baltid

gıulıoımpa
11-05-2018, 09:59 PM
between berid and faelid

cyberlorian
11-05-2018, 10:04 PM
Paleo Europid = Baltid

I guess, Paleo Europid is not the same type as Proto Europid? Or are they the same?

Teutone
11-05-2018, 10:05 PM
make a ask berkan thread

Rieder
11-05-2018, 10:12 PM
In Western Europe the Paleo-Atlantid type is most ancient.
In Eastern Europe the Pre-Slavic type is most ancient.
In in Southern Europe the Paleo-Sardinian type is most ancient.

These types are too diverse to put into one category.

Such a category would be nonsensical. Categorize based on common features not on how long types have existed.

That is how Cro-magnons, Nordics, Alpines, and Mediterraneans are sorted.

michal3141
11-05-2018, 10:31 PM
I guess, Paleo Europid is not the same type as Proto Europid? Or are they the same?

By Paleo Europid I mean WHG, SHG and EHG etc.

Joso
11-05-2018, 10:33 PM
If such a type exists.

it is paleo-atlantid, i think, maybe because it is the most ancient European phenotype?

Joso
11-05-2018, 10:34 PM
make a ask berkan thread

+1

Sacrificed Ram
11-05-2018, 10:55 PM
The most old europeans were the cro magnons, then the cromagnoid types.

Joso
11-05-2018, 11:29 PM
The most old europeans were the cro magnons, then the cromagnoid types.

Brunn?

Rieder
11-05-2018, 11:37 PM
The most old europeans were the cro magnons, then the cromagnoid types.

There is some truth to what you say.

Before the Neolithic migrations continental western Europeans resembled paleo-Sardinians. They were distinct from modern Mediterraneans in that they had more primitive features such as mild proganthism and large brow-ridges. They are somewhat associated with cro-magnons.

In Scandinavia and the British isles the taller more robust paleo-Atlantid was more common and that type is closely associated with the original cro-magnons.

However, when taking about Eastern Europeans it becomes more difficult to hold that Cro-Magnon types represent the oldest morphology because all cro-magnon types are based of remains from Western European sites and not Eastern European sites.

Archaic Eastern Europeans may have been more brachycephalic than Paleo-Atlantids or Paleo-Sardinians for instance and the Pre-Slavic type reflects this.

Sacrificed Ram
11-06-2018, 11:28 AM
There is some truth to what you say.

Before the Neolithic migrations continental western Europeans resembled paleo-Sardinians. They were distinct from modern Mediterraneans in that they had more primitive features such as mild proganthism and large brow-ridges. They are somewhat associated with cro-magnons.

In Scandinavia and the British isles the taller more robust paleo-Atlantid was more common and that type is closely associated with the original cro-magnons.

However, when taking about Eastern Europeans it becomes more difficult to hold that Cro-Magnon types represent the oldest morphology because all cro-magnon types are based of remains from Western European sites and not Eastern European sites.

Archaic Eastern Europeans may have been more brachycephalic than Paleo-Atlantids or Paleo-Sardinians for instance and the Pre-Slavic type reflects this.

During Ice Age Eastern Europe was covered by a giant ice sheet and if occupied, was by europid-mongolid intermediates and with important neanderthal influence, possibly only recently such area was occupied by europids proper.