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Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 10:23 AM
https://s3-sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/cebi.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/26141950/Jera-Guarani.jpg

Maguzanci
11-06-2018, 10:27 AM
Yes. I think she can pass as Uzbek, Uighur, Turkmen (maybe). Maybe pass as "Mestizo" in Siberia as mixed between Russian settlers and Siberian indigenous.

She is Indomestiza from Brazil?

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 10:28 AM
Yes. I think she can pass as Uzbek, Uighur, Turkmen (maybe). Maybe pass as "Mestizo" in Siberia as mixed between Russian settlers and Siberian indigenous.

She is Indomestiza from Brazil?

A pure guarani, according the sources. I dont know if she passes as these turkish people. Lets see.

Maguzanci
11-06-2018, 10:33 AM
A pure guarani, according the sources. I dont know if she passes as these turkish people. Lets see.

How typical is her look among Guaranis and other Brazilian Indios? She seem to have minor White admix looking at that pic.

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 10:39 AM
How typical is her look among Guaranis and other Brazilian Indios? She seem to have minor White admix looking at that pic.

She is not this typical. I can see some non amerindian admixture too.

Marmara
11-06-2018, 10:50 AM
From this picture she looks she could pass in Turkey.

Maguzanci
11-06-2018, 11:11 AM
She is not this typical. I can see some non amerindian admixture too.

Interesting. Would classify her as Turanid but im not expert on Central Asian looks. Is she famous?

Gangrel
11-06-2018, 01:21 PM
Easily as Central Asian. Also what Marmara said

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
11-06-2018, 02:09 PM
Native American.
But in some way looks more chinese than siberian.

The Blade
11-06-2018, 03:33 PM
I think she could pass in Central Asia.

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 03:33 PM
Native American.
But in some way looks more chinese than siberian.

Chinese? No way brah.

mutabor
11-06-2018, 06:05 PM
https://s3-sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/cebi.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/26141950/Jera-Guarani.jpg

She can pass in Kazakhstan. In Kazakhstan there is a range of looks from very mongoloid to very visible Caucasoid admixture.

Kazakh girls

https://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/dac/dac536afefa06d4fa4079f6756444709.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/418/4183b8d231c1fe92009328f9f07a41f0.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/6d6/6d638b790e880592e5643cd5fc516a3a.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/a32/a32b7414dfa09db28cd149ff941643d7.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/24b/24b2fe99fcf63906eef4ba1e5b1c8f78.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/bea/beaf590eb028eb258c1128e6a0393550.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/ad0/ad08c868e3d02495276a2f01c2abae73.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/b5c/b5c2519a8dea7bf99c00dcee4ab6d990.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/95b/95b9977574ffa1d9db66de5084ba237d.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/abd/abd40860c7f0d593143e64b501f0ebee.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/745/7455d01427bf01019a4998c2ad699203.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/e00/e00fb4cbc0aa28072f742d69576063c3.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/3ac/3acef119b713d64e17a02a8e74e76041.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/ed1/ed1d2cf8d2eb6f3db8707f15227e083c.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/110/11092ac6503f1681f744316e82f0662e.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/bf6/bf68078e1b0722b645e26770734dd1ad.jpghttps://almaty.ppz.kz/upload/iblock/934/93440922a1441569b20911b4d8f0b4f4.JPG

indo-uralopean
11-06-2018, 06:20 PM
She can pass as Turkmen/Uzbek, Kazakhs mixed way too much with Mongols doesn't fit in there.

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 06:29 PM
From this picture she looks she could pass in Turkey.
either you're troll or you are absolutely retard.. which one is true?

mutabor
11-06-2018, 06:32 PM
She can pass as Turkmen/Uzbek, Kazakhs mixed way too much with Mongols doesn't fit in there.

Mongols and Kazakhs came from the same place of origin. It's like if you say that Russians and Belarus people mixed too much with to each other.

Root
11-06-2018, 06:48 PM
she could definitely fit in there.. native Siberian folks & Central Asians kinda look like native Americans

Papastratosels26
11-06-2018, 06:52 PM
Central Asia

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Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 06:55 PM
she could definitely fit in there.. native Siberian folks & Central Asians kinda look like native Americans

I never saw any central asian that look like her. But, I can see she as siberiann

Kriptc06
11-06-2018, 06:55 PM
Guarani from witch state? she could have some minor white admix, even not knowing about it, fairly common.

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 06:57 PM
Guarani from witch state? she could have some minor white admix, even not knowing about it, fairly common.

I Just search in the google.

Marmara
11-06-2018, 06:59 PM
either you're troll or you are absolutely retard.. which one is true?

Why is that? I have seen some women looking like her.

Kriptc06
11-06-2018, 06:59 PM
I Just search in the google.

anyway, maybe could pass as central asian

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 07:00 PM
Guarani from witch state? she could have some minor white admix, even not knowing about it, fairly common.

Her name is Jera Guarani. You can search in the google.

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 07:10 PM
Why is that? I have seen some women looking like her.

900 years ago?are you immortal?

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 07:12 PM
900 years ago?are you immortal?

He is turkish, then he know what he is talking about.

Kriptc06
11-06-2018, 07:14 PM
Her name is Jera Guarani. You can search in the google.

é uma china bonita :) ou no guarani mesmo, cuña porã

--Sul de SP

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 07:18 PM
é uma china bonita :) ou no guarani mesmo, cuña porã

--Sul de SP

Yes. I saw her pictures, and she clearly has something not amerindian there. Quite pretty.

Gangrel
11-06-2018, 07:23 PM
900 years ago?are you immortal?

Go to Balikesir and take a walk outside for 15 minutes, you will see many yoruk descent women who look like her

Root
11-06-2018, 07:24 PM
I never saw any central asian that look like her. But, I can see she as siberiann




because it's already time to book your round trip airline ticket from Brazil to Kazakhstan and explore the Central Asian villages entirely in order to get a proper answer? Random pictures from internet can mislead you and they're not suitable for comparison

Marmara
11-06-2018, 07:25 PM
900 years ago?are you immortal?

Shut up mongrel, many Turks retain Central Asian looks.

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 07:26 PM
He is turkish, then he know what he is talking about.

He is a Turk(arguable) , accept, it's okay, but the only thing he knows is how to sell the fruits in the most profitable way.

Gangrel
11-06-2018, 07:26 PM
Shut up mongrel, many Turks retain Central Asian looks.

Koku ne bunun?

Catarinense1998
11-06-2018, 07:28 PM
He is a Turk(arguable) , accept, it's okay, but the only thing he knows is how to sell the fruits in the most profitable way.

:confused:

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 07:28 PM
Go to Balikesir and take a walk outside for 15 minutes, you will see many yoruk descent women who look like her

Yoruk? Look like her? Oh hell no, HELL NO. Please.

Gangrel
11-06-2018, 07:29 PM
Yoruk? Look like her? Oh hell no, HELL NO. Please.

Lol what are you boy?

mutabor
11-06-2018, 07:38 PM
https://s3-sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/cebi.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/26141950/Jera-Guarani.jpghttp://rasfokus.ru/images/photos/medium/ec95cce41d7969a1f3507a3c4dae6c8c.jpg

Her phenotype looks very familiar in comparison to some Kazakh women ( the second picture). The biggest differences of Native Americans from Central Asians are their noses which have their unique shape and skin tone which is darker.

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 07:40 PM
The only thing you do is disgrace the Turks, nothing more. You have no knowledge of what you say and what you do. Even the Turks who lived 10,000 years ago did not look like that girl.

Sorry.

Kivan
11-06-2018, 07:46 PM
From this picture she looks she could pass in Turkey.

Maybe as a outlying/extreme type, no? She looks too dark to me, and her nose shape is different from a actual Turanid. Mouth looks a bit different too. But just my opinion.

Mr. Anybody
11-06-2018, 07:49 PM
:confused:

all he knows is what is the most profitable way to sell fruit.

Marmara
11-06-2018, 07:49 PM
Maybe as a outlying/extreme type, no? She looks too dark to me, and her nose shape is different from a actual Turanid. Mouth looks a bit different too. But just my opinion.

Outlying, but i don't think people would contest if she said she is Turkish. I need to see her from different angles though.

CommonSense
11-06-2018, 09:18 PM
She could, they don't have a specific set of features. Many hapas could pass in those countries as well.

Maguzanci
11-07-2018, 02:28 AM
Her name is Jera Guarani. You can search in the google.

Indomestiza. 70-75% Lagid and 25-30% Med.

steppenwolf
11-07-2018, 12:45 PM
https://s3-sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/cebi.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/26141950/Jera-Guarani.jpg

She can pass in Kazakhstan, Türkmenistan or Uzbekistan but there is something slightly different with her in terms of her skin color and facial features. She is darker and looks more exotic.

Catarinense1998
11-07-2018, 12:56 PM
She can pass in Kazakhstan, Türkmenistan or Uzbekistan but there is something slightly different with her in terms of her skin color and facial features. She is darker and looks more exotic.

More pictures. She is a famous activist for the indigenous rights.

http://imagens.ebc.com.br/NRrwJpBUJKvKusI6B3qS2ZvNHVA=/754x0/smart/http://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/sites/default/files/atoms/image/jera_guarani_-_al.sp_.jpg?itok=W3kFgbR_

Negah
06-23-2019, 06:42 PM
She can pass in Central Asia

Maguzanci
06-23-2020, 01:23 PM
Yes. I saw her pictures, and she clearly has something not amerindian there. Quite pretty.

How typical is her look among indomestizas and caboclas?

Sora
06-23-2020, 01:40 PM
Yes, she can. Even can pass as Turanid Turk or Yörük in Turkey

Zoro
06-23-2020, 01:46 PM
She can pass in Kazakhstan, Türkmenistan or Uzbekistan but there is something slightly different with her in terms of her skin color and facial features. She is darker and looks more exotic.

I don't think she looks Kazakh. For one thing look at her nose. The ratio of the nose length/distance from nose to upper lip is LOWER for her than Kazakh women. Also the outline of her nose looks different to me than for Kazakh women (google Kazakh woman and I think you'll see what i mean). I think all the ANE American Indians have causes them to look different from E. Asians. Maybe C Asians with higher ANE?

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 03:01 PM
I don't think she looks Kazakh. For one thing look at her nose. The ratio of the nose length/distance from nose to upper lip is LOWER for her than Kazakh women. Also the outline of her nose looks different to me than for Kazakh women (google Kazakh woman and I think you'll see what i mean). I think all the ANE American Indians have causes them to look different from E. Asians. Maybe C Asians with higher ANE?

No Central Asian don't have higher pure ANE than Natives, but they have more Steppe_MLBA and Iran_N/Chl

Maguzanci
06-24-2020, 03:05 PM
No Central Asian don't have higher pure ANE than Natives, but they have more Steppe_MLBA and Iran_N/Chl

Hmm Natives also have some Steppe and Iran_N/Chl?

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 03:14 PM
Hmm Natives also have some Steppe and Iran_N/Chl?

I meant central asians have less pure ANE but have Iran_N/CHL and steppe that natives lack

Maguzanci
06-24-2020, 03:19 PM
I meant central asians have less pure ANE but have Iran_N/CHL and steppe that natives lack

Oh ok. I seen somwhere that Algonquians, Ojibwe, Sioux, Cree have high R1b frequencies. Is this a signal of European admixture? Are there some Natives who have precolumbian European ancestry? I heard of Algonquian-Basque pidgin for example.

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 03:30 PM
Oh ok. I seen somwhere that Algonquians, Ojibwe, Sioux, Cree have high R1b frequencies. Is this a signal of European admixture? Are there some Natives who have precolumbian European ancestry? I heard of Algonquian-Basque pidgin for example.

Its from French fur traders. Its too cold for settlement so only French males went that far north inland to trade with Native clans. To cement company alliance, French men married Chieftain daughters but the kids were raised as natives. Beyond ANE, no European ancestry in pre-Colombian times is known. All intial Beringian Y-DNA was mostly Q-242 (sister R* in Eurasia) and few C3 (North East Asian). So somewhere in Magadan or Lena river, East Asian females mixed with mostly ANE men before following Mammoth herds north to Beringia

Maguzanci
06-24-2020, 03:34 PM
Its from French fur traders. Its too cold for settlement so only French males went that far north inland to trade with Native clans. To cement company alliance, French men married Chieftain daughters but the kids were raised as natives. Beyond ANE, no European ancestry in pre-Colombian times is known. All intial Beringian Y-DNA was mostly Q-242 (sister R* in Eurasia) and few C3 (North East Asian). So somewhere in Magadan or Lena river, East Asian females mixed with mostly ANE men before following Mammoth herds north to Beringia

Is the European admixture from French fur traders now widespread in these Natives as in all have them?

Also I heard of Algonquin-Basque pidgin where it is believed Basque whalers sailed to North America and trade with the Algonquian Amerindians. Wouldn't there also be Basque gene flow into some Natives in this case?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian–Basque_pidgin

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 03:48 PM
Is the European admixture from French fur traders now widespread in these Natives as in all have them?

Also I heard of Algonquin-Basque pidgin where it is believed Basque whalers sailed to North America and trade with the Algonquian Amerindians. Wouldn't there also be Basque gene flow into some Natives in this case?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian–Basque_pidgin

The Algonquin mixed with a whole lot of Euros, french, basque even Irish-scotts in the Hudson buy company. So its hard filter out the basque. Also they occupied a mass land range, from the Atlantic coast to the arctic to the rocky mountains. The cree is the largest group in canada

Maguzanci
06-24-2020, 03:52 PM
The Algonquin mixed with a whole lot of Euros, french, basque even Irish-scotts in the Hudson buy company. So its hard filter out the basque. Also they occupied a mass land range, from the Atlantic coast to the arctic to the rocky mountains. The cree is the largest group in canada

Are thete pure blooded Algonquin left or are they now all Indomestizos and balanced mestizos?

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 04:01 PM
Are thete pure blooded Algonquin left or are they now all Indomestizos and balanced mestizos?

North American natives don't have a concept of Mestizo or Indo Mestizo, such systems did not exist there. First Nations are more purer than US ones because they live in remote and climatically challenging environments (cold). They are actually lighter than Euro-admixed LATAM mestizo most of the time. But there is a community called Metis who are french-First nations, but they see themselves as part of the native community rather than like the Mestizos in LATAM. They are very different from LATAM imo

Maguzanci
06-24-2020, 04:17 PM
North American natives don't have a concept of Mestizo or Indo Mestizo, such systems did not exist there. First Nations are more purer than US ones because they live in remote and climatically challenging environments (cold). They are actually lighter than Euro-admixed LATAM mestizo most of the time. But there is a community called Metis who are french-First nations, but they see themselves as part of the native community rather than like the Mestizos in LATAM. They are very different from LATAM imo

Interesting. I didn’t know First Nations are different and purer than US Natives?

You mean First Nations are lighter than Latam Mestizos? Are the First Nations much more Siberian and NE Asian looking than most Amerindians?

So I guess North natives euro mix have Much more chance of producing people who look like Hapas than those in Latam?

Synapsid
06-24-2020, 04:36 PM
Interesting. I didn’t know First Nations are different and purer than US Natives?

You mean First Nations are lighter than Latam Mestizos? Are the First Nations much more Siberian and NE Asian looking than most Amerindians?

So I guess North natives euro mix have Much more chance of producing people who look like Hapas than those in Latam?

Yeah, most First Nations have similar tone as Koreans. Do you consider Koreans dark? And yeah they are much more NE Asian looking, look at what Arthur de Gobineau said about them in 19th century:

"In this race, with their black hair, thick, oily and flat, their flattened noses, their half-open eyes, slightly slanted, one can see a marked resemblance with the Uzbeks, Hazarehs [Hazaras] and Turkomans who inhabit Central Asia". Gobineau concluded on seeing the Mi'kmaq Indians that the First Nations of North America were also Asians, and expressed amazement that "...now before my eyes, in the middle of this street in Sydney, in the form of this handful of poor wretches; I had previously met their relatives, the still victorious descendants of the Mongols and Tartars, the conquerors of Turkestan, India and Persia".

Metis look more hapa if balanced