African admixture in Semitic people (Arabs, Jews etc)

[Böri]

Source: Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15.

https://preview.ibb.co/nJoeCq/semitic0.png

https://preview.ibb.co/e1jakA/semitic1.png


Semitic people all have African and SSA admixture. Close to no exception and even among the assimilated ones.

These genes, sometimes dominant sometimes residual and few, explain the reason why African traits such as defined Jaw, curly hair and big mouth are widespread among Semites.

[Böri]

World SSA admixture map:

https://preview.ibb.co/gQHECq/ssa.png

http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012_09_16_archive.html

[Kamal900]

So..what. As if Turks themselves don't have any exotic admixture in them like South Asian. With the exception of North Africans, the SSA admixture in most Semites is not relevant.

[Böri]

So..what. As if Turks themselves don't have any exotic admixture in them like South Asian. With the exception of North Africans, the SSA admixture in most Semites is not relevant.

Don't talk a lot fatty, post your Eurogenes K15. You are Palestinian. That'd be contribution to thread.

[Kamal900]

Don't talk a lot fatty, post your Eurogenes K15. You are Palestinian, that is not taken in their reference populations (spreadsheet). That'd be contribution to thread.

Fine

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.82
2 West_Asian 20.64
3 Red_Sea 12.13
4 West_Med 8.52
5 Atlantic 6.49
6 Northeast_African 4.3
7 North_Sea 3.32
8 South_Asian 3.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.87
10 Oceanian 0.53
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 4.08
2 Syrian 4.36
3 Jordanian 7.36
4 Palestinian 8.36
5 Samaritan 8.77
6 Lebanese_Christian 9.05
7 Cyprian 9.64
8 Kurdish_Jewish 9.82
9 Iranian_Jewish 10
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.46
11 Tunisian_Jewish 10.91
12 Assyrian 11.53
13 Bedouin 12.22
14 Libyan_Jewish 12.33
15 Sephardic_Jewish 13.39
16 Georgian_Jewish 14.76
17 Italian_Jewish 14.99
18 Turkish 15.3
19 Algerian_Jewish 15.47
20 Azeri 17.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.11
2 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.14
3 72.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 27.4% Jordanian @ 3.24
4 96.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.4% Somali @ 3.3
5 96.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.3
6 88% Lebanese_Muslim + 12% Egyptian @ 3.32
7 96.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.2% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.32
8 83.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.7% Bedouin @ 3.33
9 76.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 23.3% Palestinian @ 3.36
10 97.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.49
11 91.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.51
12 66.3% Palestinian + 33.7% Turkish @ 3.51
13 92.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.9% Saudi @ 3.52
14 56.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 43.5% Syrian @ 3.64
15 98.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.9% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 3.73
16 97.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.1% Maasai @ 3.75
17 83.3% Palestinian + 16.7% Ossetian @ 3.75
18 98.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.8% Hadza @ 3.77
19 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.78
20 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Moroccan @ 3.83

As you can see, my SSA is east African in origins.

[Haider]

So..what. As if Turks themselves don't have any exotic admixture in them like South Asian. With the exception of North Africans, the SSA admixture in most Semites is not relevant.

Poor thing is still mad because I exposed that Syrian refugees in Turkey (mostly Sunni Arabs from North/West Syria) plot closer to Turks than to other Levantines and that if they look pseudo Roma is most likely due to their Turkish input, given their South Asian and Mongoloid admixture.

[Kivan]

Poor thing is still mad because I exposed that Syrian refugees in Turkey (mostly Sunni Arabs from North/West Syria) plot closer to Turks than to other Levantines and that if they look pseudo Roma is most likely due to their Turkish input, given their South Asian and Mongoloid admixture.

Continue repeating that bullshit to yourself like a parrot, It's funny. And you don't need any South Asian admixture to look gypsy. The high amounts of Arab(red sea) and Negroid already do it to them.

[lameduck]

its mostly ancient and dont affect the phenotype , just like ASI dont affect the phenotype of North/Lighter Pakistanis and Afghans much.

[Böri]

Poor thing is still mad because I exposed that Syrian refugees in Turkey (mostly Sunni Arabs from North/West Syria) plot closer to Turks than to other Levantines and that if they look pseudo Roma is most likely due to their Turkish input, given their South Asian and Mongoloid admixture.

Nah you are paranoiac yourself. Are you typing from Nasrallah's bunker somewhere in south Lebanon?
Turks are Siberian, and Indian is just few percents in Turks and residual from Central Asian interactions and part from Anatolian effects. Anyway, unlike with Semites and their African genes, we don't hide nor ashamed of anything.

Post your Eurogenes K15 too, even if you don't no problem.

You are the 'Lebanese_Muslim'.

[Böri]

Fine

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.82
2 West_Asian 20.64
3 Red_Sea 12.13
4 West_Med 8.52
5 Atlantic 6.49
6 Northeast_African 4.3
7 North_Sea 3.32
8 South_Asian 3.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.87
10 Oceanian 0.53
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 4.08
2 Syrian 4.36
3 Jordanian 7.36
4 Palestinian 8.36
5 Samaritan 8.77
6 Lebanese_Christian 9.05
7 Cyprian 9.64
8 Kurdish_Jewish 9.82
9 Iranian_Jewish 10
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.46
11 Tunisian_Jewish 10.91
12 Assyrian 11.53
13 Bedouin 12.22
14 Libyan_Jewish 12.33
15 Sephardic_Jewish 13.39
16 Georgian_Jewish 14.76
17 Italian_Jewish 14.99
18 Turkish 15.3
19 Algerian_Jewish 15.47
20 Azeri 17.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.11
2 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.14
3 72.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 27.4% Jordanian @ 3.24
4 96.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.4% Somali @ 3.3
5 96.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.3
6 88% Lebanese_Muslim + 12% Egyptian @ 3.32
7 96.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.2% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.32
8 83.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.7% Bedouin @ 3.33
9 76.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 23.3% Palestinian @ 3.36
10 97.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.49
11 91.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.51
12 66.3% Palestinian + 33.7% Turkish @ 3.51
13 92.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.9% Saudi @ 3.52
14 56.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 43.5% Syrian @ 3.64
15 98.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.9% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 3.73
16 97.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.1% Maasai @ 3.75
17 83.3% Palestinian + 16.7% Ossetian @ 3.75
18 98.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.8% Hadza @ 3.77
19 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.78
20 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Moroccan @ 3.83

As you can see, my SSA is east African in origins.

Your rates are close to Samartian, Syrian, Lebanese.
You are native Palestinian obviously. Yet many being Egyptian there.

[Gangrel]

Defined jaw? Most of the SSA in Semitics is East African and they have probably shittest bone structure in the world. And most Semitics do not have a defined jaw, what a lie.

[Kamal900]

Nah you are paranoiac yourself. Are you typing from Nasrallah's bunker somewhere in south Lebanon?
Turks are Siberian, and Indian is just few percents in Turks and residual from Central Asian interactions and part from Anatolian effects. Anyway, unlike with Semites and their African genes, we don't hide nor ashamed of anything.

Post your Eurogenes K15 too, even if you don't no problem.

You are the 'Lebanese_Muslim'.

Can you give an example on which Levantine here is ashamed of his/her SSA admixture? Please do. Few percentage? Nah, it's more like above 10% which is significant. Arabs score less than 10% South Asians with the exception of Gulf Arabs who score more than 25%.

[Kamal900]

Your rates are close to Samartian, Syrian, Lebanese.
You are native Palestinian obviously. Yet many being Egyptian there.

Most Palestinians including myself have some or partial Egyptian ancestry, and those who are of Egyptian heritage are mostly confined in the South of the region like Gaza. Egyptians cluster with Levantines, not with North Africans like Berbers:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209472-Genetic-Stratigraphy-of-Key-Demographic-Events-in-Arabia

[Böri]

Can you give an example on which Levantine here is ashamed of his/her SSA admixture? Please do. Few percentage? Nah, it's more like above 10% which is significant. Arabs score less than 10% South Asians with the exception of Gulf Arabs who score more than 25%.

Show me a Turk scoring over 10% South Asian on Eurogenes or Dodecad or so. That doesn't exist you Fatty. Even Kurds from Turkey or Iraq barely reach that, let aside Turks.

Anyway stick to topic.


Red Sea + SSA + East Africa = 15-20% in Levantine Arabs (Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinian etc).
That doesn't exist in Turks.

Your Lebanese friend tried to come over that. Which was interesting.

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[Kamal900]

Show me a Turk scoring over 10% South Asian on Eurogenes or Dodecad or so. That doesn't exist you Fatty. Even Kurds from Turkey or Iraq barely reach that, let aside Turks.

Anyway stick to topic.


Red Sea + SSA + East Africa = 15-20% in Levantine Arabs (Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinian etc).
That doesn't exist in Turks.

East African admixture is part SSA and part West Eurasian, but it's part of the SSA catergory. Oh? Red Sea admixiture is common among Turks too. Here's the evidence for that:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209472-Genetic-Stratigraphy-of-Key-Demographic-Events-in-Arabia

[Böri]

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Don't just subscribe with post.
Post your Eurogenes K15.
You must also have a nice Red_Sea hit as Greek.

[StonyArabia]

Talk about obession

[Papastratosels26]

Don't just subscribe with post.
Post your Eurogenes K15.
You must also have a nice Red_Sea hit as Greek.Nah I don't tested yet. But I'm full European. Dad comes from Northern Greece, mother from Germany. Unlike you my friend..

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[rein]

So you’re saying a Red Sea component is SSA. In any case, even Turkish people score 5.62% on average.

[Böri]

Arabs (like Naba Naba Stone) and Jews (like Smeagol) instead of talking a lot, they should share their results here.


So you’re saying a Red Sea component is SSA. In any case, even Turkish people score 5.62% on average.

No. That's less than 2% in me. NE African and direct SSA component missing completely in Turks unlike in Semites.

[StonyArabia]

So you’re saying a Red Sea component is SSA. In any case, even Turkish people score 5.62% on average.

Turks have a good amount of south Asian because the Turkmens were Gypsies. Also they were Chinese subjects imao.

[Kamal900]

Arabs (like Naba Naba Stone) and Jews (like Smeagol) instead of talking a lot, they should share their results here.

Smeagol isn't Jewish though. He's mostly of Northern European ancestry, especially Anglo-Saxon.

[Smeagol]

East African admixture is part SSA and part West Eurasian, but it's part of the SSA catergory. Oh? Red Sea admixiture is common among Turks too. Here's the evidence for that:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209472-Genetic-Stratigraphy-of-Key-Demographic-Events-in-Arabia

Red Sea peaks in Arabs , it's mostly SW Asian rather than African. A defined jaw is also not a negroid trait at all, lol.

[Joso]

Defined jaw? Most of the SSA in Semitics is East African and they have probably shittest bone structure in the world. And most Semitics do not have a defined jaw, what a lie.

are not you confunding chin with jaw? Lots of semitics seen to have strong jaw but week chin, maybe because of the armenoid phenotype

[Kivan]

Turks have a good amount of south Asian because the Turkmens were Gypsies. Also they were Chinese subjects imao.

SA in Turks is something residual and insignificant, and ancient. You have 0% SA and still looks like a Veddoid from Sri Lanka.

[StonyArabia]

Can you give an example on which Levantine here is ashamed of his/her SSA admixture? Please do. Few percentage? Nah, it's more like above 10% which is significant. Arabs score less than 10% South Asians with the exception of Gulf Arabs who score more than 25%.

They don't unless they have a Baloch ancestry. Most gulf Arabs from the interior don't. Saudis don't have much south Asian and Bedouins lack it, unlike the Anatolian gypsies.

[Böri]

Turks have a good amount of south Asian because the Turkmens were Gypsies. Also they were Chinese subjects imao.

Post your results here Fat Arab.
Afraid?

[Kamal900]

are not you confunding chin with jaw? Lots of semitics seen to have strong jaw but week chin, maybe because of the armenoid phenotype

My big brother has strong jaw lines but weak chin.
https://image.ibb.co/j04Xow/IMG-20170928-WA0000.jpg

[zarzian]

The SSA in semites is only prominent in peninsular Arabia through slave trade, ancient Levantine and West Asian Semites did not harbour any SSA

[Levant15]

Your rates are close to Samartian, Syrian, Lebanese.
You are native Palestinian obviously. Yet many being Egyptian there.The east African in non Muslims most likely came from ancient Egypt. Which means 2% of East African in Muslims also came through Egypt.
East African in modern Arabs came through slavery. Ancient Arabs did not have east African

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[Ryuk]

World SSA admixture map:

https://preview.ibb.co/gQHECq/ssa.png

http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012_09_16_archive.html


how can Australia have such a high SSA component?Aborigines have been isolated from other people for 60,000 years.

[Kamal900]

The SSA in semites is only prominent in peninsular Arabia through slave trade, ancient Levantine and West Asian Semites did not harbour any SSA

It's also prominent in North Africa as well, but for different reasons. Egyptians, both ancient and modern, cluster with us while Berbers and Arabized ones belonged to the North African cluster which is close to the middle eastern one.

[StonyArabia]

The east African in non Muslims most likely came from ancient Egypt. Which means 2% of East African in Muslims also came through Egypt.
East African in modern Arabs came through slavery. Ancient Arabs did not have east African

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No Nabatean samples showed minor ssa admixture. However Turkmens/Turk had their south Asian diluted due to intermixing with Anatolians. The East African admix is just shows interaction between Arabia and the Horn. It's ancient and not from the slave trade. Jews have some including Ashkenazim.

[Böri]

No Nabatean samples showed minor ssa admixture. However Turkmens/Turk had their south Asian diluted due to intermixing with Anatolians. The East African admix is just shows interaction between Arabia and the Horn. It's ancient and not from the slave trade. Jews have some including Ashkenazim.

Wtf you bubble about son of a slut in burqa, who got tested but afraid to post results.

Here is my results. Where are yours?

Keep a deep breath, remove your fat brown fingers from your keyboard and watch.


That's Eurogenes K15 of mine.


Population
North_Sea 4.69
Atlantic 5.14
Baltic 3.87
Eastern_Euro 2.31
West_Med 7.17
West_Asian 33.20
East_Med 21.19
Red_Sea 1.54
South_Asian 5.28
Southeast_Asian 4.56
Siberian 9.76
Amerindian 0.94
Oceanian 0.35
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 11.48
2 Turkmen 12.28
3 Azeri 12.65
4 Kumyk 13.82
5 Nogay 15.51
6 Kurdish 16.25
7 Balkar 16.71
8 Iranian 17.07
9 Kabardin 17.12
10 Armenian 17.6
11 Adygei 18.75
12 Ossetian 18.75
13 Georgian_Jewish 18.95
14 Afghan_Tadjik 19.39
15 Afghan_Uzbeki 19.87
16 North_Ossetian 19.94
17 Tadjik 20.08
18 Lezgin 20.25
19 Assyrian 20.74
20 Chechen 21.29


Kurds and Armenians (Armenians being East Anatolian) have 1,5 to 2 times more and some time more than double South Asian and African than me.

[Hadouken]

Turks have a good amount of south Asian because the Turkmens were Gypsies. Also they were Chinese subjects imao.

why do you always say this ?

turks score less than 10% south asian . in many cases it is only 4-5 % or so . and the south asian has a lot of west eurasian in it

[Smeagol]

No Nabatean samples showed minor ssa admixture. However Turkmens/Turk had their south Asian diluted due to intermixing with Anatolians. The East African admix is just shows interaction between Arabia and the Horn. It's ancient and not from the slave trade. Jews have some including Ashkenazim.

In Jews and Levantines it's likely ancient Egyptian admixture.

[StonyArabia]

SA in Turks is something residual and insignificant, and ancient. You have 0% SA and still looks like a Veddoid from Sri Lanka.

stop trolling. I was classified as Asian Alpine/Arabid. Nah your ancestors aka the Turkmens had significant south Asian. Not only that many Turks do remind me of Gypos.

[Hadouken]

stop trolling. I was classified as Asian Alpine/Arabid. Nah your ancestors aka the Turkmens had significant south Asian. Not only that many Turks do remind me of Gypos.

why do you always say this ?

turks score less than 10% south asian . in many cases it is only 4-5 % or so . and the south asian has a lot of west eurasian in it

[Kivan]

stop trolling. I was classified as Asian Alpine/Arabid. Nah your ancestors aka the Turkmens had significant south Asian. Not only that many Turks do remind me of Gypos.

Very well, show your face here and then we will see who looks closer to a Gypsy.

Anyway, someone who such classification saying that doesn't look Gypsy sounds like an oxymoron.

[Ryuk]

I saw Turks,they bear Red Sea component with very little, but I don't remember more than one percent of the SSA and eastern Africa component in any turk.

[Böri]

stop trolling. I was classified as Asian Alpine/Arabid. Nah your ancestors aka the Turkmens had significant south Asian. Not only that many Turks do remind me of Gypos.

http://abload.de/img/proudnik47.png

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m102/Danishmend/3_zpsdcb444a1.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m102/Danishmend/6_zpse42558d9.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Turkish gypsy my results are on this forum dumbass

[Böri]

Don't panic fatty slandering Arab, you bear same features and skin texture as brown Gypsies.
Not the Turks.

Overcome your panic and shame, and bring your results here.
Someone having such big mouth to talk a lot should prove ability to face this little challenge.

[Levant15]

No Nabatean samples showed minor ssa admixture. However Turkmens/Turk had their south Asian diluted due to intermixing with Anatolians. The East African admix is just shows interaction between Arabia and the Horn. It's ancient and not from the slave trade. Jews have some including Ashkenazim.Where did you see Nabatean dna? Are they on gedmatch?

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[Visage pâle]

Sephardics and Ashkhenazis are comparables. They are much closer than to arabs.

[StonyArabia]

Don't panic fatty slandering Arab, you bear same features and skin texture as brown Gypsies.
Not the Turks.

Overcome your panic and shame, and bring your results here.
Someone having such big mouth to talk a lot should prove ability to face this little challenge.

Unlike most of you Durks I have my results posted look at Thebedouins 23andme results or alanson's 23abd result and nabatea 23andme result. Look at them there

[Levant15]

Don't panic fatty slandering Arab, you bear same features and skin texture as brown Gypsies.
Not the Turks.

Overcome your panic and shame, and bring your results here.
Someone having such big mouth to talk a lot should prove ability to face this little challenge.Between S Asian , SE Asian, and Mongoloid, you score over 20%. Unlike those components, red sea is still west Eurasian.....

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[Böri]

The Fat Bedouin can't dare to post his Eurogene results here....


Between S Asian , SE Asian, and Mongoloid, you score over 20%. Unlike those components, red sea is still west Eurasian.....

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Red Sea peaks in Ethiopia region. That's African.
It's not bad to be part African (you Semites from Levant having in total 20% Red Sea, NE African and SSA).
It's just that many Arabs, and also Jews are ashamed of their genes.
That's the issue.

I never pretended to be European btw. We Turks came from Siberia.
That's who we are.

[Levant15]

The Fat Bedouin can't dare to post his Eurogene results here....



Red Sea peaks in Ethiopia region. That's African.
It's not bad to be part African (you Semites from Levant having in total 20% Red Sea, NE African and SSA).
It's just that many Arabs, and also Jews are ashamed of their genes.
That's the issue.

I never pretended to be European btw. We Turks came from Siberia.
That's who we are.Not according to genetic distances.
Red sea is closest to Mediterranean and West Asian and even North Europehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181110/ee86984d77811f41279b9af2ec51a06d.jpg

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[Hadouken]

I dont think that Red Sea is an african component

[StonyArabia]

The Fat Bedouin can't dare to post his Eurogene results here....



Red Sea peaks in Ethiopia region. That's African.
It's not bad to be part African (you Semites from Levant having in total 20% Red Sea, NE African and SSA).
It's just that many Arabs, and also Jews are ashamed of their genes.
That's the issue.

I never pretended to be European btw. We Turks came from Siberia.
That's who we are.

Fuck off durk. Your Turkmen ancestors were Gypos. I posted my results Durk. No Durks are not from Siberia they are Gypos especially the Turkmens.

[Böri]

Red Sea genes birth place is Sudan and south Egypt.
That's the Ev13 genome originating area too.
That's African or call it north African.

Thread isn't about SSA but African markers as a whole.

A component peaking in Ethiopians is simply African.

[Smeagol]

Fuck off durk. Your Turkmen ancestors were Gypos. I posted my results Durk. No Durks are not from Siberia they are Gypos especially the Turkmens.

Turks are closest to other Middle Easterners, not to Siberians at all
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

[Leto]

Red Sea is not Sub-Saharan. It's basically Basal Eurasian, quite close to East Med.

[Böri]

Thread isn't about Turks but the Semitic people's African affinities.
Turks are from a different world.
Focuse on topic.

The bedouin obese camel couldn't dare to post his results, afraid of showing the SSA obviously.


Red Sea is not Sub-Saharan. It's basically Basal Eurasian, quite close to East Med.

NE African component isn't SSA either, that's African just as the Red Sea.

[Leto]

Turks are closest to other Middle Easterners, not to Siberians at all

Turks of Turkey are widely seen as Middle Eastern. Neither European, nor Central Asian. The UN classifies Turkey as West Asian.

[Ryuk]

Fuck off durk. Your Turkmen ancestors were Gypos. I posted my results Durk. No Durks are not from Siberia they are Gypos especially the Turkmens.

Modern turkmens do not ancestors of modern turks.I saw 1000AD Central asian turkic admix,they had approx. %50 ENA and Siberian,and %50 Western (mostly scythian) component

[Smeagol]

Turks of Turkey are widely seen as Middle Eastern. Neither European, nor Central Asian. The UN classifies Turkey as West Asian.

Yes Turks are clearly a Middle Eastern population geographically, culturally and genetically.

[Leto]

NE African component isn't SSA either, that's African just as the Red Sea.
If you are talking about the NE African on Eurogenes, it is mostly black African.

[StonyArabia]

Turks are closest to other Middle Easterners, not to Siberians at all
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

Of course they are deluded. Siberians are a world apart. Most Siberians would face racism in Turkey or call them chinks. There is a Kregyz woman who was in Turkey and faced racism. Clearly Turks are not Siberian any shape or form.

[archangel]

wtf are these arabs talking about?

[Smeagol]

Lol, now Kivan thumbed me down for posting a PCA plot.

[Böri]

wtf are these arabs talking about?

That all started when they pretended that Turks were genetically similar with Arabs, MENA's and Semites.

[Leto]

Saudi, a pure camel jockey

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.7
2 Red_Sea 35.59
3 West_Asian 8.92
4 West_Med 6.13
5 Northeast_African 4.5
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Oceanian 0.74
8 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 1.9
2 Yemenite_Jewish 10.97
3 Bedouin 15.92
4 Egyptian 20.06
5 Palestinian 20.27
6 Jordanian 22.13
7 Samaritan 24.19
8 Syrian 24.88
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.1
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.81
11 Libyan_Jewish 28.06
12 Lebanese_Druze 28.27
13 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
14 Kurdish_Jewish 30.56
15 Iranian_Jewish 30.86
16 Cyprian 31.14
17 Tunisian 31.53
18 Sephardic_Jewish 31.94
19 Algerian 32.36
20 Algerian_Jewish 32.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.2% Saudi + 0.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.86
2 99.2% Saudi + 0.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 1.86
3 99.7% Saudi + 0.3% Papuan @ 1.86
4 99.5% Saudi + 0.5% Somali @ 1.87
5 99.6% Saudi + 0.4% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 1.88
6 99.6% Saudi + 0.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 1.88
7 99.8% Saudi + 0.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.89
8 99.9% Saudi + 0.1% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 1.9
9 100% Saudi + 0% Maasai @ 1.9
10 100% Saudi + 0% Abhkasian @ 1.9
11 100% Saudi + 0% Adygei @ 1.9
12 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.9
13 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 1.9
14 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 1.9
15 100% Saudi + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 1.9
16 100% Saudi + 0% Algerian @ 1.9
17 100% Saudi + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.9
18 100% Saudi + 0% Altaian @ 1.9
19 100% Saudi + 0% Armenian @ 1.9
20 100% Saudi + 0% Ashkenazi @ 1.9


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 47.27
2 Caucasus 31.4
3 Atlantic_Med 6.24
4 Gedrosia 5.38
5 East_African 4.38
6 Northwest_African 3.97
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Southeast_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 5.26
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Yemenese (Behar) 16.38
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.89
5 Jordanians (Behar) 20.33
6 Egyptans (Behar) 20.92
7 Syrians (Behar) 21.21
8 Samaritians (Behar) 21.99
9 Saudis (Behar) 22.21
10 Lebanese (Behar) 25.56
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 28.46
12 Druze (HGDP) 28.97
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.29
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.56
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 34.9
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.3
17 Cypriots (Behar) 35.43
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 35.59
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.09
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 36.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 44.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.24
2 52.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.7% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.96
3 64.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 35.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.98
4 89.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.25
5 89.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.28
6 89% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 11% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.29
7 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.4
8 83.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.43
9 89.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.45
10 84.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 15.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.45
11 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.46
12 90.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.52
13 87.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.52
14 85.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.6
15 53.6% Saudis (Behar) + 46.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.77
16 56.8% Saudis (Behar) + 43.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.92
17 84.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4
18 84.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.02
19 73.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.27
20 73.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.28

[Smeagol]

Red Sea peaks in Arabia, not East Africa which is where Northeast African peaks.

[Leto]

Of course they are deluded. Siberians are a world apart. Most Siberians would face racism in Turkey or call them chinks. There is a Kregyz woman who was in Turkey and faced racism. Clearly Turks are not Siberian any shape or form.
I thought Turks worshipped Central Asian and Altaian Turkics, didn't they? Turks usually don't identify as white.

[StonyArabia]

Lol, now Kivan thumbed me down for posting a PCA plot.

They think they are Siberians, but at the same they are racist toward "East Asian"/Mongol look. Btw I always said I have SSA admixture, these dumbasses are defaming me and pointing their own complexes at time. Also they were pissed like Danishmend and his idiotic cartoons, because I call them out on their BS. Turks are of course closer to Mideasterners. Also the Turkmens had significant South Asian admixture, but it was diluted due to intermixing with native Anatolians like Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians and god knows what else. The Turkmens were not fully Siberian at all, but mixed and had Persian and South Asian influence. A race of Gypos

[Böri]

Saudi, a pure camel jockey

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.7
2 Red_Sea 35.59
3 West_Asian 8.92
4 West_Med 6.13
5 Northeast_African 4.5
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Oceanian 0.74
8 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 1.9
2 Yemenite_Jewish 10.97
3 Bedouin 15.92
4 Egyptian 20.06
5 Palestinian 20.27
6 Jordanian 22.13
7 Samaritan 24.19
8 Syrian 24.88
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.1
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.81
11 Libyan_Jewish 28.06
12 Lebanese_Druze 28.27
13 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
14 Kurdish_Jewish 30.56
15 Iranian_Jewish 30.86
16 Cyprian 31.14
17 Tunisian 31.53
18 Sephardic_Jewish 31.94
19 Algerian 32.36
20 Algerian_Jewish 32.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.2% Saudi + 0.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.86
2 99.2% Saudi + 0.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 1.86
3 99.7% Saudi + 0.3% Papuan @ 1.86
4 99.5% Saudi + 0.5% Somali @ 1.87
5 99.6% Saudi + 0.4% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 1.88
6 99.6% Saudi + 0.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 1.88
7 99.8% Saudi + 0.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.89
8 99.9% Saudi + 0.1% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 1.9
9 100% Saudi + 0% Maasai @ 1.9
10 100% Saudi + 0% Abhkasian @ 1.9
11 100% Saudi + 0% Adygei @ 1.9
12 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.9
13 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 1.9
14 100% Saudi + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 1.9
15 100% Saudi + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 1.9
16 100% Saudi + 0% Algerian @ 1.9
17 100% Saudi + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.9
18 100% Saudi + 0% Altaian @ 1.9
19 100% Saudi + 0% Armenian @ 1.9
20 100% Saudi + 0% Ashkenazi @ 1.9


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit T443635

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 47.27
2 Caucasus 31.4
3 Atlantic_Med 6.24
4 Gedrosia 5.38
5 East_African 4.38
6 Northwest_African 3.97
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Southeast_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 5.26
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Yemenese (Behar) 16.38
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.89
5 Jordanians (Behar) 20.33
6 Egyptans (Behar) 20.92
7 Syrians (Behar) 21.21
8 Samaritians (Behar) 21.99
9 Saudis (Behar) 22.21
10 Lebanese (Behar) 25.56
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 28.46
12 Druze (HGDP) 28.97
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.29
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.56
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 34.9
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.3
17 Cypriots (Behar) 35.43
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 35.59
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.09
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 36.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 44.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.24
2 52.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.7% Saudis (Behar) @ 2.96
3 64.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 35.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.98
4 89.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.25
5 89.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.28
6 89% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 11% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.29
7 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.4
8 83.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.43
9 89.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.45
10 84.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 15.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.45
11 90% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.46
12 90.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.52
13 87.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.52
14 85.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.6
15 53.6% Saudis (Behar) + 46.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.77
16 56.8% Saudis (Behar) + 43.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.92
17 84.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4
18 84.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 15.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.02
19 73.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.27
20 73.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 26.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.28

Anyway, it seems Dodecad splits the Red Sea in other component and assigns some of that to other African components.

[archangel]

They think they are Siberians, but at the same they are racist toward "East Asian"/Mongol look. Btw I always said I have SSA admixture, these dumbasses are defaming me and pointing their own complexes at time. Also they were pissed like Danishmend and his idiotic cartoons, because I call them out on their BS. Turks are of course closer to Mideasterners. Also the Turkmens had significant South Asian admixture, but it was diluted due to intermixing with native Anatolians like Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians and god knows what else. The Turkmens were not fully Siberian at all, but mixed and had Persian and South Asian influence. A race of Gypos

you dare to talk about us like this?We Türks are the fucking Scandavians of the region lighter than any sandnigger who live south of us , only North Caucaisans can challenge us

[StonyArabia]

I thought Turks worshipped Central Asian and Altaian Turkics, didn't they? Turks usually don't identify as white.

Some want to be White and European and some want to be Yellow and Central Asian/Mongols. It depends on their ideology from what I have found out.

[Leto]

Anyway, it seems Dodecad splits the Red Sea in other component and assigns some of that to other African components.
Why speculate? It's enough to see where each component peaks. Also look at the distances

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kXZ8Mxu5dns/TybJ7CQJuPI/AAAAAAAAEbk/QYJc4rvQ3ww/s1600/fst.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cYC4bY-koB0/TybKBMtXRSI/AAAAAAAAEbs/zka5fg8fmRQ/s1600/nj.png

SW Asian is fully West Eurasian.

[Papastratosels26]

OWD POST LMAO

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[Leto]

Some want to be White and European and some want to be Yellow and Central Asian/Mongols. It depends on their ideology from what I have found out.
I don't know but at least in Europe most Turks are very Muslim and hate white people.

[StonyArabia]

Btw I posted my results on public forums and I am not ashamed. Since Bori is trying to defame me. I will post my results on here again

I believe my thread had been deleted since I posted I am Nabatea.


Paternal Haplogroup:T

T is a subgroup of F, which is described below.

Locations of haplogroup T circa 500 years ago, before the era of intercontinental travel.

http://i56.tinypic.com/8xqwt2.jpg


Haplogroup T is most common in the Near East, however it can be found in northern Africa, Europe and even across Asia at very low frequencies. T is best known for being the haplogroup of the third U.S. president, Thomas Jefferson.

Common among these people:T, a subgroup of F

Age: 21,000 years

Region: Europe, Near East, Northern Africa

Populations: Iraqis, Ethiopians, Egyptians

Highlight: T can be found across much of the Near East and Europe, although typically at low frequencies.


My maternal line:Maternal Haplogroup:J1b
J1b is a subgroup of J1, which is described below.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2558gu0.png


Locations of haplogroup J1 circa 500 years ago, before the era of intercontinental travel.Haplogroup J originated about 45,000 years ago on the Arabian Peninsula not long after modern humans expanded out of Africa and onto the Eurasian continent. About 7,000 years ago the expansion of farming carried daughter lineages of J, including J1, into Europe. Today the haplogroup extends as far west as Britain and as far east as Central Asia.

common among those groups:

Haplogroup: J1, a subgroup of J

Age: more than 38,000 years

Region: Europe, Near East

Populations: British, Scandinavians

Highlight: J1 spread from the Middle East all the way to Iceland.



My global similarity:

Southern Europeans:67.38
Near Easterners 67.24
North Europeans:67.21
Central Asians:66.88
North Africans:66.46
Siberians:65.98
North Americans:65.96
Oceanians:65.93
East Asians:65.78
East Africans:64
Southern Africans:63.91
Central Africans:63.85
West Africans:63.82

ancestry painting:

Europe 99%
Asia 1%
Africa <1%

Native American ancestry Finder:
European 99.03%
Asian 0.61%
African 0.36%

My McDonald results:The program says you most likely fit 50-50 Palestinian-Iranian, though
a variable mix of Druze, Berber, and Moroccan with a bit (15%) of
Sindhi thrown in fit equally well. Its probably best to look at the
spot on the map, which is an average of these: its in Jordan.

http://i54.tinypic.com/mvkgah.png

http://i55.tinypic.com/15pmhw1.png

http://i51.tinypic.com/1h2pp3.png

My Dodecod results:

I am Dod310

West Asian 42.6%
NorthWest African 1.3%
South European 18.2%
North East Asian 1.3%
SouthWest Asian 26.6%
East Asian 0.1%
North European 0.8%
West African 0%
East African 3.8%
South Asian 5.2%

http://i55.tinypic.com/121645i.png


You sit in the middle of a genetic "empty space" on his plot, implying you are a mix of the reference samples.

McDonald's program usually interprets your position relative to the closest samples. As Palestine and Iran are closer together than the Bedouin and Adyghei, the program automatically reported you as the former.


Ancestry painting

European 99%
Asian 1%
African <1%

So nothing changed.

As well my McDonald results updated it's not much different from the other one. Ironically very close to the oracle of Dienekes admix Dodcode project.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2i7mvbs.png

http://i52.tinypic.com/29vm8eu.png

http://i52.tinypic.com/i3gdom.png

Most likely fit is 48.7% (+- 0.0%) Mideast (all Druze/Palestinian)

and 51.3% (+- 0.0%) Mideast (all Iran)

which is 100% total Mideast


In Eurogenes split I got Corum and Rab Al-Khali

GedMatch I cluster evenly between North Caucasians and Yemenites


Palestin= 0.470 Iranian= 0.530 or
Palestin= 0.591 Adygei= 0.409

[QUOTE=Alanson;3832]Update from McDonald

Most likely fit is 53.1% (+- 6.1%) Mideast (all Druze/Palestinian)

and 46.9% (+- 6.1%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

which is 100% total Mideast

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

Palestin= 0.470 Iranian= 0.530 or

Palestin= 0.591 Adygei= 0.409


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[StonyArabia]

[QUOTE=StonyArabia;4771628]puntDNAL K13 Global 4-Ancestors Oracle


puntDNAL K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 38.07
2 SW_Asia 22.92
3 SW_Europe 22.66
4 NE_Europe 4.47
5 South_Asia 3.43
6 West_Africa 2.67
7 Siberia 1.89
8 Oceania 1.37


Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.196779
2 Syrian @ 7.964598
3 Lebanese_Druze @ 8.140871
4 Assyrian @ 9.062690
5 Lebanese_Christian @ 10.185161
6 Armenian @ 10.815722
7 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.886823
8 Jordanian @ 11.504611
9 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 11.753132
10 Palestinian @ 12.134039
11 Kurdish @ 12.498131
12 Turkish @ 13.096606
13 Iranian @ 13.460067
14 Samaritan_Jew @ 14.820126
15 Turkish_Trabzon @ 15.884753
16 Cypriot @ 15.978687
17 Turkish_Aydin @ 16.336514
18 Abkhasian @ 16.530432
19 Yemeni @ 18.088848
20 Ossetian @ 18.446117

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +50% Palestinian @ 3.813404


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Azeri +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Yemeni @ 3.477299


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Samaritan_Jew + Tadjik + Turkish_Trabzon + Yemeni @ 3.359463
2 Iranian + Lebanese_Muslim + Turkish_Kayseri + Yemeni @ 3.394689
3 Balkar + Iranian + Samaritan_Jew + Yemeni @ 3.431025
4 Iranian + Ossetian + Samaritan_Jew + Yemeni @ 3.437976
5 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Azerbaijan_Azeri + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemeni @ 3.477299
6 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemeni @ 3.490039
7 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemeni @ 3.493254
8 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian + Yemeni @ 3.494261
9 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 3.496601
10 Assyrian + Iranian + Turkish_Kayseri + Yemeni @ 3.508946
11 Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim + Turkish_Kayseri + Yemeni @ 3.565595
12 Iranian + Lebanese_Druze + Turkish_Kayseri + Yemeni @ 3.568951
13 Armenian + Samaritan_Jew + Tadjik + Yemeni @ 3.578488
14 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Jordanian + Kurdish + Yemeni @ 3.610789
15 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Samaritan_Jew + Yemeni @ 3.613079
16 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze + Yemeni @ 3.621232
17 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Kurdish + Syrian + Yemeni @ 3.627037
18 Assyrian + Samaritan_Jew + Tadjik + Yemeni @ 3.649381
19 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Dagestan_Azeri + Samaritan_Jew + Yemeni @ 3.653691
20 Azerbaijan_Azeri + Iranian + Palestinian + Samaritan_Jew @ 3.667712

Done.

[Smeagol]

Some want to be White and European and some want to be Yellow and Central Asian/Mongols. It depends on their ideology from what I have found out.

But in reality they're Brown Muslims/Middle Easterners.

[Böri]

Anyway, the Jew Smeagol and the horde of Arabs were pretending Turks being similar to MENAs and bearing SSA like Arabs and Sepharadic /Mizrahis etc did.
Now the fat Bedouin can't dare to post his results funnily.

Now, İ think it's clear enough Turks are from apart worlds with even Levantines like Syrians (who are 22% Red Sea, NE African, SSA total while Turks 10 times lesser) in a genetical sense with Turks having no African component unlike Semites.

[Hadouken]

I dont know why Böri is asking for Stonys results because it wouldnt tell much for Böri since Stony is half circassian

[Marmara]

What a pointless discussion.

[Marmara]

Of course they are deluded. Siberians are a world apart. Most Siberians would face racism in Turkey or call them chinks. There is a Kregyz woman who was in Turkey and faced racism. Clearly Turks are not Siberian any shape or form.

I've never heard of such thing here ever.

[Leto]

But in reality they're Brown Muslims/Middle Easterners.
To be honest, they usually have light skin, at least most ethnic Turks to the west of Ankara, not Kurds in the Southeast.

[Böri]

What a pointless discussion.

The thread has point in a genetics forum. The Arabs are pointless.

[StonyArabia]

Here my results from another Calculator

]Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.21
2 Southern 37.91
3 Atlantic_Baltic 9.95
4 South_Asian 4.31
5 African 3.54
6 Siberian 2.07


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians_Behar @ 7.044370
2 Lebanese_Behar @ 8.372808
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 8.785460
4 Druze_HGDP @ 9.214046
5 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 9.995170
6 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 10.086361
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 11.065598
8 Armenian_Dodecad @ 11.116792
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 11.846794
10 Jordanians_Behar @ 12.280778
11 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 12.330104
12 Turkish_Dodecad @ 12.366958
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 12.448808
14 Turks_Behar @ 12.701495
15 Armenians_Behar @ 13.070683
16 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.717519
17 Palestinian_HGDP @ 14.119866
18 Iranians_Behar @ 14.809748
19 Kurd_Dodecad @ 15.257425
20 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 15.430823

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.078912


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin_HGDP +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Lezgins_Behar @ 2.023677


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Iranians_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Saudis_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.646032
2 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar @ 1.713933
3 Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.722795
4 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 1.760452
5 Iranians_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.761775
6 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.784155
7 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar @ 1.829516
8 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar @ 1.832849
9 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Syrians_Behar @ 1.872326
10 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.877365
11 Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.896660
12 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Saudis_Behar @ 1.903795
13 Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Saudis_Behar @ 1.922430
14 Iranian_Dodecad + Syrians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.924561
15 Georgians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Saudis_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 1.970811
16 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar @ 1.971485
17 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iranians_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.998113
18 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Yemenese_Behar @ 2.015396
19 Bedouin_HGDP + Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar @ 2.023677
20 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.027176

Done.[/QUOTE]

[Marmara]

I don't know why it matters Afro-Asiatic score SSA.

[Kamal900]

Anyway, the Jew Smeagol and the horde of Arabs were pretending Turks being similar to MENAs and bearing SSA like Arabs and Sepharadic /Mizrahis etc did.
Now the fat Bedouin can't dare to post his results funnily.

Now, İ think it's clear enough Turks are from apart worlds with even Levantines like Syrians (who are 22% Red Sea, NE African, SSA total while Turks 10 times lesser) in a genetical sense with Turks having no African component unlike Semites.

What a complexed person. Care to show us your face?

[Leto]

I don't know why it matters Afro-Asiatic score SSA.
Because of that they can't pass as white, don't look fully Caucasoid. Nibber blood makes them dark, at least that's a popular opinion.

[StonyArabia]

Anyway, the Jew Smeagol and the horde of Arabs were pretending Turks being similar to MENAs and bearing SSA like Arabs and Sepharadic /Mizrahis etc did.
Now the fat Bedouin can't dare to post his results funnily.

Now, İ think it's clear enough Turks are from apart worlds with even Levantines like Syrians (who are 22% Red Sea, NE African, SSA total while Turks 10 times lesser) in a genetical sense with Turks having no African component unlike Semites.

I just posted my 23andme results and several calculators it shows where I cluster numbnuts between NorthArabia/South Levant and the Caucasus, since that's what I am. Also my signature shows my admix.

[Marmara]

I don't know but at least in Europe most Turks are very Muslim and hate white people.

Have you ever left your village?

[Hadouken]

Here my results from another Calculator

]Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.21
2 Southern 37.91
3 Atlantic_Baltic 9.95
4 South_Asian 4.31
5 African 3.54
6 Siberian 2.07


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians_Behar @ 7.044370
2 Lebanese_Behar @ 8.372808
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 8.785460
4 Druze_HGDP @ 9.214046
5 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 9.995170
6 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 10.086361
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 11.065598
8 Armenian_Dodecad @ 11.116792
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 11.846794
10 Jordanians_Behar @ 12.280778
11 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 12.330104
12 Turkish_Dodecad @ 12.366958
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 12.448808
14 Turks_Behar @ 12.701495
15 Armenians_Behar @ 13.070683
16 Cypriots_Behar @ 13.717519
17 Palestinian_HGDP @ 14.119866
18 Iranians_Behar @ 14.809748
19 Kurd_Dodecad @ 15.257425
20 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 15.430823

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.078912


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin_HGDP +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Lezgins_Behar @ 2.023677


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Iranians_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Saudis_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.646032
2 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar @ 1.713933
3 Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.722795
4 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 1.760452
5 Iranians_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.761775
6 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.784155
7 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar @ 1.829516
8 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar @ 1.832849
9 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + Syrians_Behar @ 1.872326
10 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.877365
11 Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.896660
12 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Saudis_Behar @ 1.903795
13 Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Saudis_Behar @ 1.922430
14 Iranian_Dodecad + Syrians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.924561
15 Georgians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Saudis_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 1.970811
16 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar @ 1.971485
17 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iranians_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.998113
18 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Yemenese_Behar @ 2.015396
19 Bedouin_HGDP + Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar @ 2.023677
20 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.027176

Done.[/QUOTE]

why are you always bubbling about us kurds , turks having south asian when you yourself score as much south asian as me (which of course is not much) ?

my results :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 47.8
2 Southern 30.38
3 Atlantic_Baltic 13.6
4 South_Asian 4.68
5 East_Asian 1.48
6 Siberian 1.09
7 African 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.4
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.56

[Leto]

Have you ever left your village?
Over 60% of Turks residing in Europe vote for Erdogan. They obviously are devote Muslims and don't identify as European. I know the situation in Germany well enough (I understand German).

[Marmara]

Because of that they can't pass as white, don't look fully Caucasoid. Nibber blood makes them dark, at least that's a popular opinion.

Afro-Asiatics don't really care about it, at least most of them.

[Böri]

OK Bedouin, you seem to be like around clear 5-6% SSA-like components. It's just that, there was no need to have panic attack.
Point stands, you Semites are part African.

[Leto]

Afro-Asiatics don't really care about it, at least most of them.
You feel close to the Afro-Asiatics, don't you?

[Smeagol]

Anyway, the Jew Smeagol and the horde of Arabs were pretending Turks being similar to MENAs and bearing SSA like Arabs and Sepharadic /Mizrahis etc did.

Turks are MENAs. Get over it.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

And once again, i'm not jewish so you're just making yourself look stupid. Especially considering Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews cluster farther from Middle Easterners than Turks do.

[Marmara]

Over 60% of Turks residing in Europe vote for Erdogan. They obviously are devote Muslims and don't identify as European. I know the situation in Germany well enough (I understand German).

Only 40% of Turks living in Europe vote at all.

[StonyArabia]

What a complexed person. Care to show us your face?

It's funny how he says I never posted my results. I am ashamed of my results, when I actually shared my results on several public forums. I also posted my results on this very thread and he continues babbling his defamation. I was never ashamed to have some SSA admixture like he is trying to claim. As you can see from my results it makes sense based on my genetics since my paternal side is Caucasian and my maternal is Arabian, that I cluster in between the two regions. Also look at my signature which shows my genetic component in basic form. He is indeed quite complexed and at least I showed myself for classification before and posted my pics not like this fool.

[Kamal900]

OK Bedouin, you seem to be like around clear 5-6% SSA-like components. It's just that, there was no need to have panic attack.
Point stands, you Semites are part African.

Again..so what? Afro-Asiatics were builders of civilization while Turds like yourself as destroyers. So good job in proving my point on how complexed you are on this whole thing. Let me see your face if you're that confident that you're 100% Turkic.

[Marmara]

You feel close to the Afro-Asiatics, don't you?

Ethnically no, culturally yes, but i disagree because i feel like Böri is being Böri again. I don't hate MENAs i just don't want them to have influence on us.

[Leto]

Only 40% of Turks living in Europe vote at all.
When you enter Turkish-dominated areas in Europe, you see women in hijabs, mosques, bearded men, Turkish flags, etc. It is well known that they are more conservative (in the Islamic sense) than Turks in the largest cities of Turkey.

[Marmara]

Turks are MENAs. Get over it.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

And once again, i'm not jewish so you're just making yourself look stupid. Especially considering Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews cluster farther from Middle Easterners than Turks do.

If i get a test i would probably score something like this, but i'm from Southeastern Turkey, Turkey is too diverse to be represented by one sample.

[Marmara]

When you enter Turkish-dominated areas in Europe, you see women in hijabs, mosques, bearded men, Turkish flags, etc. It is well known that they are more conservative (in the Islamic sense) than Turks in the largest cities of Turkey.

It's the religious people themselves who prefer to live close, normal Turks already don't live in those areas.

Turks don't normally grow religious beards, but mustaches.

[Kivan]

Turks are MENAs. Get over it.

And once again, i'm not jewish so you're just making yourself look stupid. Especially considering Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews cluster farther from Middle Easterners than Turks do.

There is no such thing called MENA. That is rather a geopolitical term, it's not related to genetics. We plot closer to other NW Asian groups in these charts. I don't really have problems with it:

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2cfaao3.jpg
http://www.nevgen.org/PCA%20charts/PCA%20Europe%20and%20vicinity%20axis%203-1%20a.png

[Hadouken]

there is no such thing as "MENA" . as you see Georgians are also in the west asian cluster . they are not MENA at all . west asian is the correct term . north africans and arabians are different from us

furthermore turks plot like that because the anatolian and central asian mix shifts them like that . it is as if you took the sicilian on the plot and the turkmen and then make a point in the middle which will lay in west asia

[Smeagol]

If i get a test i would probably score something like this, but i'm from Southeastern Turkey, Turkey is too diverse to be represented by one sample.

It's based on the average of multiple results.

[StonyArabia]

Again..so what? Afro-Asiatics were builders of civilization while Turds like yourself as destroyers. So good job in proving my point on how complexed you are on this whole thing. Let me see your face if you're that confident that you're 100% Turkic.

Yep, us Afro-Asiatics created amazing civilizations not only from the Mesopotamians, but also Nabateans, Midianites, Liyhanites, Saifitic, Thumidic, Hassetic, Minean, Sabean civilizations, and even the Moors. Far superior our civilizations. Look at my ancestors created in Petra for example

[Leto]

there is no such thing as "MENA" . as you see Georgians are also in the west asian cluster . they are not MENA at all . west asian is the correct term . north africans and arabians are different from us

furthermore turks plot like that because the anatolian and central asian mix shifts them like that . it is as if you took the sicilian on the plot and the turkmen and then make a point in the middle which will lay in west asia
Yes, this acronym MENA is freaking annoying. Moroccans and Lebanese are not similar.

[Haider]

Yes Turks are clearly a Middle Eastern population geographically, culturally and genetically.

And phenotypically.

[Böri]

Ethnically no, culturally yes, but i disagree because i feel like Böri is being Böri again. I don't hate MENAs i just don't want them to have influence on us.

Sure and it wasn't you who were calling to mistreat Syrians. You are culturally connected to Afro Asiatics because you are from Mesopotamia. Turks have nothing to do with that world. Just as sharp differences as the genetics. And you can't blame anyone for standing away from MENAs.

[Hadouken]

Yes, this acronym MENA is freaking annoying. Moroccans and Lebanese are not similar.

they are both arabic speakers at least :lol: . we kurds , armenians , georgians , azeris , assyrians etc are even further away from moroccans etc.

I consider north levantines such as lebanese as west asian too though

[Leto]

It's the religious people themselves who prefer to live close, normal Turks already don't live in those areas.

Turks don't normally grow religious beards, but mustaches.
Either way, Turks have been for 50 years in Western Europe and they are still problematic, especially youth. The European-born generation is even worse, more radicalized, more defiant, etc. A lot of them went to Syria to fight for ISIS.

[Marmara]

It's based on the average of multiple results.

It's the average of selected results.

This guy is obviously not included in the average





MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.97
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.38
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.86
4 South_Central_Asian 6.5
5 Near_East 6.07
6 Tungus-Altaic 5.57
7 East_Siberian 4.12
8 North_African 3.42
9 Ancestral_Altaic 3.16
10 South_East_Asian 1.7
11 Austronesian 0.79
12 Australoid 0.22
13 Melano_Polynesian 0.21
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croat_BH ( ) 8.95
2 Bosnian ( ) 9.07
3 Serb_BH ( ) 9.6
4 Croat ( ) 9.68
5 Montenegrian ( ) 10.4
6 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10.42
7 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.67
8 Bulgarian ( ) 10.8
9 Macedonian ( ) 10.9
10 Serb_Serbia ( ) 10.97
11 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 11.38
12 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 11.56
13 Turk_Aydin ( ) 11.6
14 Ukrainian_East ( ) 11.8
15 Czech ( ) 11.95
16 Slovak ( ) 11.99
17 Romanian ( ) 12.28
18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 12.49
19 Slovenian ( ) 12.72
20 Ukrainian ( ) 12.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.2% Gagauz ( ) + 29.8% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 2.88
2 54.4% Tatar-Kazan ( ) + 45.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 2.99
3 52.5% Cretan ( ) + 47.5% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 3.12
4 57% Cretan ( ) + 43% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.13
5 67.1% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 32.9% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 3.13
6 53.7% Tatar-Mishar ( ) + 46.3% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 3.16
7 56% Greek ( ) + 44% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.17
8 54.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 45.7% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.18
9 50.2% Greek_Islands ( ) + 49.8% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.24
10 53% Italian_South ( ) + 47% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.26
11 55.1% Tatar-Mishar ( ) + 44.9% Cypriot ( ) @ 3.27
12 66.3% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) + 33.7% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.29
13 57.8% Romanian_Jew ( ) + 42.2% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.29
14 51.6% Tatar-Kazan ( ) + 48.4% Italian_South ( ) @ 3.3
15 52% Tatar-Kazan ( ) + 48% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 3.35
16 66.7% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 33.3% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 3.35
17 60% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 40% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.36
18 65.8% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 34.2% Tatar-Lithuanian ( ) @ 3.36
19 53.2% Cretan ( ) + 46.8% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 3.4
20 75.2% Gagauz ( ) + 24.8% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 3.4



And he scores East Asian as much as other Turkish samples.

[Böri]

why are you always bubbling about us kurds , turks having south asian when you yourself score as much south asian as me (which of course is not much) ?

my results :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 47.8
2 Southern 30.38
3 Atlantic_Baltic 13.6
4 South_Asian 4.68
5 East_Asian 1.48
6 Siberian 1.09
7 African 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.4
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.56

Kurdish samples on Eurogenes k15 have twice more South Asian and Red Sea than Turkish samples, just for notes.

[Böri]

Either way, Turks have been for 50 years in Western Europe and they are still problematic, especially youth. The European-born generation is even worse, more radicalized, more defiant, etc. A lot of them went to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Hell wtf you know?
You are from the eastern, backward communist world.
A Peasant from Belarus.

Even Germans on TA don't complain as much as you are complaining about Turks in Germany, while you probably never been in Germany in your life
Just stfu and skip.

[Gangrel]

It's the average of selected results.

This guy is obviously not included in the average





And he scores East Asian as much as other Turkish samples.

I bet most of the results in that plot point are from Adana lol

[StonyArabia]

Very well, show your face here and then we will see who looks closer to a Gypsy.

Anyway, someone who such classification saying that doesn't look Gypsy sounds like an oxymoron.

Turks lost their Gypo looks because they intermarried with Greeks and Slavic women.

[Hadouken]

Kurdish samples on Eurogenes k15 have twice more South Asian and Red Sea than Turkish samples, just for notes.

yes but both are under 10% and the kurdish samples are probably not from turkey

I score less than the sample

[Haider]

they are both arabic speakers at least :lol: . we kurds , armenians , georgians , azeris , assyrians etc are even further away from moroccans etc.

I consider north levantines such as lebanese as west asian too though

Persian and Kurdish are more similar than Lebanese Arabic and Morrocan Arabic.

[Leto]

Hell wtf you know?
You are from the eastern, backward communist world.
A Peasant from Belarus.

Even Germans on TA don't complain as much as you are doing here on TA.

Just stfu and skip.
Russians assimilate in one generation. We're not Muslims. You get the fuck out of this European forum, dickhead!

[Smeagol]

There is no such thing called MENA, kike.

It's funny how you call people kike but chimp out and start spamming thumbs downs when someone says something you don't like about Turks. Still i'd like to hear your definition of a kike though. I'm mostly Northern European with minor Ashkenazi ancestry. even in Nazi Germany that wouldn't be considered as being a kike.


That is rather a geopolitical term, it's not related to genetics. We plot closer to other NW Asian groups in these charts. I don't really have problems with it:

Yes, you're closer to groups like Iranians than Central Asians or Siberians.

[Hadouken]

Persian and Kurdish are more similar than Lebanese Arabic and Morrocan Arabic.

I see . cool

[StonyArabia]

Persian and Kurdish are more similar than Lebanese Arabic and Morrocan Arabic.

Moroccan Arabic is not mutually intelligible with most Arab dialects. It's has strong Berber syntax and lexicon which makes it almost a different language.

[Kamal900]

Russians assimilate in one generation. We're not Muslims. You get the fuck out of this European forum, dickhead!

"B-but! We Turks are like the Franks!". No joke. He made a thread in trying to gain acceptance and loyalty points when the crusaders compared Turks to the Franks, lol.

I'm still waiting for him to post his picture..but I won't hold my breath.

[Kivan]

Turks lost their Gypo looks because they intermarried with Greeks and Slavic women.

But in the other hand you are half-Circassian and looks like a mix of Veddoid/Gypsy and Arabid. How ironic is the life. :D

[Böri]

Russians assimilate in one generation. We're not Muslims. You get the fuck out of this European forum, dickhead!

You assimilate because you are Subhumans who hate anything about their own.

You Orthodox village peasant, Loki was asked multiple times to shut Turkish forum by Turks, here on TA. He didn't. Convince him, we would leave!

If this forum was European you wouldn't have horde of Arabs, Jews etc around here.

Beside, low class people rush here. A hurted, beggar Eastern euro like you who can be somewhat 'equal' with Westerners only in such environments.

[Leto]

"B-but! We Turks are like the Franks!". No joke. He made a thread in trying to gain acceptance and loyalty points when the crusaders compared Turks to the Franks, lol.

I'm still waiting for him to post his picture..but I won't hold my breath.
He'd most likely be seen as a 'black' from the Caucasus in Russia. I bet more than you, since you don't like a sterotypical Arab.

[Ayetooey]

"B-but! We Turks are like the Franks!". No joke. He made a thread in trying to gain acceptance and loyalty points when the crusaders compared Turks to the Franks, lol.

I'm still waiting for him to post his picture..but I won't hold my breath.

They're some of the worst assimilated people in Europe, if not the worst. We see Turks in Europe how they see the "dirty Syrians" in Turkey. Turkish culture pales in comparison to Arab culture. Best Turk here is Bori as he's a proud mongol and not a wannabe Euro.

[Kamal900]

But in the other hand you are half-Circassian and looks like a mix of Veddoid/Gypsy and Arabid. How ironic is the life. :D

To be fair, he looks more Pakistani than Sri-Lankan which they look very different.

[StonyArabia]

But in the other hand you are half-Circassian and looks like a mix of Veddoid/Gypsy and Arabid. How ironic is the life. :D

Keep talking out of your ass Durk. I don't look Veddiod or Gypsy. I am Asian Alpine Arabid and have a Bedouin look. Well you Gypos diluted your looks with mixing with Greek and Slavic women it's well known fact.

[Leto]

Orthodox village peasant, Loki was asked multiple times to shut Turkish forum by Turks, here on TA. He didn't. Convince him, we would leave!

If this forum was European you wouldn't have horde of Arabs, Jews etc around here.

Beside, low class people rush here. A hurted, beggar Eastern euro like you who can be somewhat 'equal' with Westerners only in such environments.
Lol, do you know me? Loki doesn't do anything, he's basically careless, that's nothing new. If I were in charge, heads would be rolling, believe me. Yourself included.
Anyway, I don't know why you are attacking me. It is a fact that the Turkish diaspora (incl. Turkish Kurds) is very problematic in Western Europe, they don't assimilate and demand too much respect. Ask any European nationalist, not some delusional lefty if you don't believe me.

[Kivan]

Keep talking out of your ass Durk. I don't look Veddiod or Gypsy. I am Asian Alpine Arabid and have a Bedouin look. Well you Gypos diluted your looks with mixing with Greek and Slavic women it's well known fact.

Truth hurts, doesn't it? I bet you will cry after looking yourself in the mirror because, deep down, you know i'm right. Your trolling attempts will not change the reality.

[StonyArabia]

Truth hurts, doesn't it? I bet you will cry after looking yourself in the mirror because, deep down, you know i'm right. Your trolling attempts will not change the reality.

Nah you are the one who is butthurt dude. I posted my pics for classification and posted my pics on the member photos. I have pride and I am no a coward you see. The truth hurts in your case, because the Arabians never practiced to dilute themselves dumbass. In fact in Spain, some of the Iberian converts used to tan themselves and dye their hair black because they wanted to look more like us dumbass.

[Marmara]

They're some of the worst assimilated people in Europe, if not the worst. We see Turks in Europe how they see the "dirty Syrians" in Turkey. Turkish culture pales in comparison to Arab culture. Best Turk here is Bori as he's a proud mongol and not a wannabe Euro.

Let me guess, in Serbia too? Weren't you the boy who is half English half Serb?

[Ayetooey]

Let me guess, in Serbia too? Weren't you the boy who is half English half Serb?

I don't live in Serbia. Point is Turks complain about refugees, but Turks in Europe cause exactly the same problems. Maybe your sultan should be calling for his brethren to return home instead of encouraging them to have more kids.

"Speaking in the central city of Eskişehir, Turkey’s president urged “his brothers and sisters in Europe” to begin a baby boom in their new countries. “Have not just three but five children,” he told his flag-waving audience."

[Böri]

Lol, do you know me? Loki doesn't do anything, he's basically careless, that's nothing new. If I were in charge, heads would be rolling, believe me. Yourself included.
Anyway, I don't know why you are attacking me. It is a fact that the Turkish diaspora (incl. Turkish Kurds) is very problematic in Western Europe, they don't assimilate and demand too much respect. Ask any European nationalist, not some delusional lefty if you don't believe me.

Why the fuck you care then? You came here to this thread, in this anthro forum that looks anything but not a 'European forum' and started to try prove things and putting down the Turks outta here.
Are you sort of Jew who was offended?

[Kivan]

Nah you are the one who is butthurt dude. I posted my pics for classification and posted my pics on the member photos. I have pride and I am no a coward you see. The truth hurts in your case, because the Arabians never practiced to dilute themselves dumbass. In fact in Spain, some of the Iberian converts used to tan themselves and dye their hair black because they wanted to look more like us dumbass.

Ok dude, i'm shitskined pentaracial gypsy and you are Hallstatt-Nordid from Arabia. I hope it makes your day better! Bye.



Let me guess, in Serbia too? Weren't you the boy who is half English half Serb?

I bet this guy is just another troll/sock account. Let me guess, is him that user "grecoroman"?

[MsSPF]

Persian and Kurdish are more similar than Lebanese Arabic and Morrocan Arabic.

I think you are exagerating a little bit. Kurdish and Persian are part of the same "family language" but they are not mutually intelligible. They are two different languages.

Lebanese and Moroccan Arabic are indeed very different but they are still "Arabic". Most Moroccans understand Lebanese well in general, the opposit is less true but my Leb friends understand most of my Algerian Arabic when they are concentrated, which is similar to Moroccan one. Lebanese & Moroccan who studied fus7a can even make a little effort by using less colloquial/dialectal words or expressions and more formal Arabic, they could understand each other easily.
But that's true Moroccan & Maghrebian languages in general are very different from Middle Eastern dialects due to its tamazight and/or French influence.

[Marmara]

I don't live in Serbia.

You said Europe, isn't Serbia part of it?

If you live in UK, here is the last election results from there.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/secim/24-haziran-2018-secimleri/birlesik-krallik-milletvekili-secim-sonuclari

42% participated, half of the electors voted for HDP (Kurdish party), 25% for CHP (main opposition party) and 18% for Erdoğan.

[StonyArabia]

Btw even the Romans described as dark skinned and we never mixed with them because we were hostile them. For example this what the Romans say about one of the Arabian Queens

Her face was dark and of a swarthy hue, her eyes were black and powerful beyond the usual wont, her spirit divinely great, and her beauty incredible. So white were her teeth that many thought that she had pearls in place of teeth.

So fuck off Turk

[Kamal900]

Why the fuck you care then? You came here to this thread, in this anthro forum that looks anything but not a 'European forum' and started to try prove things and putting down the Turks outta here.
Are you sort of Jew who was offended?

What a baseless accusation. Is anyone here a Jew who simply don't accept your kind here, hmm?

[Ayetooey]

You said Europe, isn't Serbia part of it?

If you live in UK, here is the last election results from there.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/secim/24-haziran-2018-secimleri/birlesik-krallik-milletvekili-secim-sonuclari

42% participated, half of the electors voted for HDP (Kurdish party), 25% for CHP (main opposition party) and 18% for Erdoğan.

Turks in my hometown aren't Kurds if that's what you're implying, they're mainly from Western Anatolia, places like Bodrum, Izmir which aren't Kurd populated, and Turkish Cypriots as well. Blaming all problems on Kurds is really draining. And it's less of a problem in the UK as it is in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium etc.

[StonyArabia]

Ok dude, i'm shitskined pentaracial gypsy and you are Hallstatt-Nordid from Arabia. I hope it makes your day better! Bye.

I don't want to be an emasculated feminized Nordic. I am proud what I am an Asian/Arabid. However what I said is the truth Turks used to marry Greek and Slavic women, and not mention the kidnapping of Balkanoid boys who then mixed with Anatolian Turks thus. Yet the Arabians never practiced this, and even when in Spain they wanted to look like us, this why some of the generals used to dye their hair and tan themselves. Good you know your place.

[Leto]

Why the fuck you care then? You came here to this thread, in this anthro forum that looks anything but not a 'European forum' and started to try prove things and putting down the Turks outta here.
Are you sort of Jew who was offended?
When I came here back in 2014, it was pretty much European, much fewer non-Europeans than now. Then many non-Europeans strated to come and there was also a wave of Russophobia, so I kind of left the forum temporarily. Nowadays, I tend to avoid political and cultural topics because I know my views are not really shared here by most members any longer and the overall level is pretty low. Back in 2014 this fourm actually 'red-pilled' me in some way. Now it's mostly shit.

[Marmara]

Turks in my hometown aren't Kurds if that's what you're implying, they're mainly from Western Anatolia, places like Bodrum, Izmir which aren't Kurd populated, and Turkish Cypriots as well. Blaming all problems on Kurds is really draining. And it's less of a problem in the UK as it is in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium etc.

So what is the problem? And do you live in London?

[Hadouken]

Lol, do you know me? Loki doesn't do anything, he's basically careless, that's nothing new. If I were in charge, heads would be rolling, believe me. Yourself included.
Anyway, I don't know why you are attacking me. It is a fact that the Turkish diaspora (incl. Turkish Kurds) is very problematic in Western Europe, they don't assimilate and demand too much respect. Ask any European nationalist, not some delusional lefty if you don't believe me.

turkish kurds are not problematic at all . we are very well intergrated

many turks are too but I dont want to bother with it because these turkish members like Marmara always try to shift their problems on us as if we are responsible for their shit

[Kivan]

I don't want to be an emasculated feminized Nordic. I am proud what I am an Asian/Arabid. However what I said is the truth Turks used to marry Greek and Slavic women, and not mention the kidnapping of Balkanoid boys who then mixed with Anatolian Turks thus. Yet the Arabians never practiced this, and even when in Spain they wanted to look like us, this why some of the generals used to dye their hair and tan themselves. Good you know your place.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You should be comedian, you are good on it.

[Ayetooey]

I don't want to be an emasculated feminized Nordic. I am proud what I am an Asian/Arabid. However what I said is the truth Turks used to marry Greek and Slavic women, and not mention the kidnapping of Balkanoid boys who then mixed with Anatolian Turks thus. Yet the Arabians never practiced this, and even when in Spain they wanted to look like us, this why some of the generals used to dye their hair and tan themselves. Good you know your place.

I mean there's millions of Turks especially in NW Turkey who still identify as Bosniak, Albanian etc, but mention this and you'll get thumbed down.

"According to estimates commissioned in 2008 by the National Security Council of Turkey (Milli Güvenlik Kurulu) as many as 2,000,000 Turkish citizens are of Bosniak ancestry.[3] Bosniaks mostly live in the Marmara Region which is in other words the north-west Turkey".

Of course then there's the millions of uncounted Balkan Muslims from elsewhere who converted to Islam and then begun identifying as Turks over time. Most of these people would of just assimilated into Turkish society like anyone else, further diluting the blood pool. Yet even with the millions of Euro's they still plot nowhere near even their neighbours Greece and Bulgarians, never-mind other Euro's.

[Leto]

turkish kurds are not problematic at all . we are very well intergrated

many turks are too but I dont want to bother with it because these turkish members like Marmara always try to shift their problems on us as if we are responsible for their shit
Still there is little to no assimilation. Islam, foreign names, foreign customs, loyalty to a foreign nation. That's not what I call assimilation. Is Mesut Özil assimilated to you? He was born in Germany and is still Turkish to the core.

The only assimilated Turk in Germany I know of is Akif Pirincci, he is a great man, though I find his style a bit distasteful.

[Levant15]

they are both arabic speakers at least [emoji38] . we kurds , armenians , georgians , azeris , assyrians etc are even further away from moroccans etc.

I consider north levantines such as lebanese as west asian too though

Lebanese are Levantines who mostly derive from bronze age levant. Same with Palestinians, Samaritans, western Jordanians, and Syrians. Stop inventing your own categories.

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[archangel]

I dont have enough knowledge about the genetics as you beta nerds nor do i have to,i trust my eyes,we are too Northern in apperance compared to southern ethnic groups such as Levantines,Mesopotomians and İranians. we are basically Swedes of the region

https://resmim.net/f/31rVi9.png

https://resmim.net/f/2TidTG.jpg

[Hadouken]

Still there is little to no assimilation. Islam, foreign names, foreign customs, loyalty to a foreign nation. That's not what I call assimilation. Is Mesut Özil assimilated to you? He was born in Germany and is still Turkish to the core.

assimilation is different from integration . why should people give up their customs and religion ? as long as you obey the laws and are not anti german , speak the language etc. then that is integration

we kurds are very integrated . only some are not

[Marmara]

turkish kurds are not problematic at all . we are very well intergrated

many turks are too but I dont want to bother with it because these turkish members like Marmara always try to shift their problems on us as if we are responsible for their shit

It is a fact, i don't want to get into it neither i blame you for anything. Many Kurds are also integrated but i know my country. Kurds and Black Seans are the most problematic two groups here.

[cyberlorian]

I mean there's millions of Turks especially in NW Turkey who still identify as Bosniak, Albanian etc, but mention this and you'll get thumbed down.

"According to estimates commissioned in 2008 by the National Security Council of Turkey (Milli Güvenlik Kurulu) as many as 2,000,000 Turkish citizens are of Bosniak ancestry.[3] Bosniaks mostly live in the Marmara Region which is in other words the north-west Turkey".

Of course then there's the millions of uncounted Balkan Muslims from elsewhere who converted to Islam and then begun identifying as Turks over time. Most of these people would of just assimilated into Turkish society like anyone else, further diluting the blood pool. Yet even with the millions of Euro's they still plot nowhere near even their neighbours Greece and Bulgarians, never-mind other Euro's.

"I mean there's millions of Turks especially in NW Turkey who still identify as Bosniak, Albanian etc, but mention this and you'll get thumbed down."

No way! You will not be thumbed down at all.


"Of course then there's the millions of uncounted Balkan Muslims from elsewhere who converted to Islam and then begun identifying as Turks over time. Most of these people would of just assimilated into Turkish society like anyone else, further diluting the blood pool. Yet even with the millions of Euro's they still plot nowhere near even their neighbours Greece and Bulgarians, never-mind other Euro's."

Those Balkan Muslims have migrated to Balkans from Anatolia. Of course they have mixed with native Balkanians but they are mostly, predominantly Turkish. This is the reason.

[Hadouken]

Lebanese are Levantines who mostly derive from bronze age levant. Same with Palestinians, Samaritans, western Jordanians, and Syrians. Stop inventing your own categories.

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doesnt matter. they are still west asians and dont cluster far from us and lookwise there is overlap . if a levantine doesnt want to be a west asian I dont give a fuck . salute to the west asian race dude

[StonyArabia]

What a baseless accusation. Is anyone here a Jew who simply don't accept your kind here, hmm?

Semagol is mostly Anglo-American with minor Jewish ancestry. I don't agree with him on somethings but he is cool guy and actually debates in a civilzed manner unlike the adults here aka Kivan and Bori who act like autistic children

[Ayetooey]

Still there is little to no assimilation. Islam, foreign names, foreign customs, loyalty to a foreign nation. That's not what I call assimilation. Is Mesut Özil assimilated to you? He was born in Germany and is still Turkish to the core.

Then they create "tolerant, liberal parties" within Europe, which are merely Islamic and Erdoganist movements in disguise. Example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denk_(political_party)

The movement wants to establish a monument in memory of labour, and they want knowledge of migration history as a key target in education. They propose that the term "integration" should be replaced by the word "acceptance". The movement would abolish the term "immigrant". It notes that people with a non-western background are less likely to find a job or internship and often have negative experiences with law enforcement. The manifesto states that racism in the Netherlands is structural and institutional in nature and therefore wants a so-called "racism registry" to be set up, in which manifestations of racism are registered.


But...

The party's program for the 2017 Dutch parliamentary elections, in the context of the Armenian genocide, mourns both the Turkish and the Armenian sides, while calling for an "independent international investigation". Denk claims that there is no consensus regarding the scale and cause of the tragedy, and calls for "reason and unification". Within that framework, the party does not use the term genocide.[17][non-primary source needed]

The two leaders and founders of the party have been criticised for being "closely linked to the AKP" of Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and "do not criticize Erdogan and Turkish government policies." The party was the sole party in the Netherlands that did not call for the release of a Turkish-Dutch blogger who was arrested for a tweet about Erdoğan.[18] The party has also been heavily criticised for refusing to distance itself from the purges in Turkey since 2016.[3]

The Diyanet has facilitated a fusion of religion and politics (Islamism) in the Netherlands and allowed the AKP-associated party DENK to spread propaganda in mosques under its control located in the Netherlands.[42] When Turkish migrant organizations were requested to join a statement against domestic violence, the religious attaché of the Turkish Embassy declraed that domestic violence does not exist in Turkish society and all Turkish Islamic organizations withdrew their support from the statement.[42]

There's shitty parties like this all over western Europe, "liberal" parties run by Turks, who in reality promote ottomanism.

[Marmara]

we are too Northern in apperance compared to southern ethnic groups such as Levantines,Mesopotomians and İranians. we are basically Swedes of the region

https://resmim.net/f/31rVi9.png

Congratulations.

[Böri]

Leto acts like a crypto-Semite (kinda Jew or so) from Eastern Europe who wanna punish Turks now for starting thread like this. In any normal situation, an Eastern Slav has no reason, no motive to be involved in the present way in a thread like this.

[Ayetooey]

"I mean there's millions of Turks especially in NW Turkey who still identify as Bosniak, Albanian etc, but mention this and you'll get thumbed down."

No way! You will not be thumbed down at all.


"Of course then there's the millions of uncounted Balkan Muslims from elsewhere who converted to Islam and then begun identifying as Turks over time. Most of these people would of just assimilated into Turkish society like anyone else, further diluting the blood pool. Yet even with the millions of Euro's they still plot nowhere near even their neighbours Greece and Bulgarians, never-mind other Euro's."

Those Balkan Muslims have migrated to Balkans from Anatolia. Of course they have mixed with native Balkanians but they are mostly, predominantly Turkish. This is the reason.

Kivan thumbed me down immediately bro.

[Hadouken]

It is a fact, i don't want to get into it neither i blame you for anything. Many Kurds are also integrated but i know my country. Kurds and Black Seans are the most problematic two groups here.

comaroids are the most problematic . stop blaming kurds for everything it is getting annoying . it is always the same . everybody is bad except the turks right ? :rolleyes: .

[Leto]

assimilation is different from integration . why should people give up their customs and religion ? as long as you obey the laws and are not anti german , speak the language etc. then that is integration

we kurds are very integrated . only some are not
Then you are for multiculti and civic nationalism. I reject those things. Germany is for the Germans and maybe those ready to become German. The rest have to go. Especially Islamic culture has no place in Europe.

[MsSPF]

I don't know why it matters Afro-Asiatic score SSA.

I was wondering the same thing. Like it was some kind of "disease" :lol:

[Ayetooey]

Leto acts like a crypto-Semite (kinda Jew or so) from Eastern Europe who wanna punish Turks now for starting thread like this. In any normal situation, an Eastern Slav has no reason, no motive to be involved in the present way in a thread like this.

No one wants to punish Turks, we just want the ones in Europe to integrate better and if they can't go back home, and for Erdogan to shut the fuck up. I still don't want Turkey to be swamped by Syrians and other refugees, everyone deserves the right to protect their people.

[Haider]

Ok dude, i'm shitskined pentaracial gypsy and you are Hallstatt-Nordid from Arabia. I hope it makes your day better! Bye.




No, you're a typical Brazilian pardo. I just don't know why you are pretending to be Turkish lol

[archangel]

Congratulations.

Her zaman kardeşim

[Hadouken]

Then you are for multiculti and civic nationalism. I reject those things. Germany is for the Germans and maybe those ready to become German. The rest have to go. Especially Islamic culture has no place in Europe.

I believe in freedom of religion and way of life as long as you dont harm others and obey the laws

[rein]

Because of that they can't pass as white, don't look fully Caucasoid. Nibber blood makes them dark, at least that's a popular opinion.

Nah, that’s because Arabian component is different from North European.

[StonyArabia]

I was wondering the same thing. Like it was some kind of "disease" :lol:

Only sick individual would see it as disease. The idiot OP was saying that we are ashamed of it, and we proved him wrong. Like I said even Nabatean samples had showed some SSA admix. Also the Guanche of the Canary Islands did to. So who gives a shit only sick deranged individuals do. Plus we Afro-Asiatics created amazing civilizations.

[Leto]

No one wants to punish Turks, we just want the ones in Europe to integrate better and if they can't go back home, and for Erdogan to shut the fuck up. I still don't want Turkey to be swamped by Syrians and other refugees, everyone deserves the right to protect their people.
Yes, exactly. Turkish members tell me they don't like Syrians, Afghans, Kurds, Blacks in Turkey and it is their right. Turkey is certainly not a country for me, I'll never live there (or in any Islamic country for that matter) but why aren't European allowed to protect their own culture and people from foreign encroachment? It is beyond me.

[cyberlorian]

Nah, that’s because Arabian component is different from North European.

Arabian component has Northeast African in it.

[Ülev]

World SSA admixture map:

https://preview.ibb.co/gQHECq/ssa.png

http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012_09_16_archive.html

does it means, that:

Australia is not real
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?246290-Australia-is-not-real

and all those fences there is to separate "new continent" from Africans? :cool:






(just kidding)

[rein]

Turks are MENAs. Get over it.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

And once again, i'm not jewish so you're just making yourself look stupid. Especially considering Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews cluster farther from Middle Easterners than Turks do.

Do you cluster around Austria?

[Marmara]

comaroids are the most problematic . stop blaming kurds for everything it is getting annoying . it is always the same . everybody is bad except the turks right ? :rolleyes: . turkey is a banana republic anyway . I am glad to not live there

Not at all, and yes Turkey is Banana republic, i don't deny.

[rein]

Arabian component has Northeast African in it.

I know what it has - 5% East African.

[Hadouken]

Yes, exactly. Turkish member tell me they don't like Syrians, Afghans, Kurds, Blacks in Turkey and it is their right. Turkey is certainly not a country for me, I'll never live there (or in any Islamic country for that matter) but why aren't European allowed to protect their own culture and people from foreign encroachment? It is beyond me.

we kurds fought along with turks for turkey and kurds live there since 1000 years . we established turkey together . we have every right for the country too . there are only problems because the turks started to deny us our language etc. after we built turkey together . in fact atatürk actually said he would give part of the land but after the war was over he said "tek millet tek bayrak tek vatan" (one people , one flag , one country) and they even tried to make us lost mountain turks etc. etc. . thats when problems started . I wont discuss this with any turkish member here because I dont have the nerves to deal with it but that is reality . many turks deny that and make their own history showing us as invaders etc. ....bullshit . I dont have anything against normal turks and we are brothers who are together since 1000 years and also there are mixes of turks and kurds .....it is just not possible to divide us anymore but I am sick of these people trying to always give us as scapegoats when turks do shit

[StonyArabia]

The Arabian component is very different from the European components not only North European. Not to mention we evolved in Desert climates which means dark skin is in fact is more suitable for our climate. If we were pale we would suffer from skin cancers and such. For example White Australians have a lot of skin cancer because they are not adapted to that climate. Also even the Arabian horse, it's skin is actually black underneath it's coat which is an adaptation to the Desert heat. Thus it's not an admix. However in coolor mountain areas the people tend to be lighter, but the Desert people tend to be darker. So it has nothing to do with SSA admix, but all Afro-Asiatic have SSA admix most of it is ancient and who gives a shit really

[cyberlorian]

Yes, exactly. Turkish members tell me they don't like Syrians, Afghans, Kurds, Blacks in Turkey and it is their right. Turkey is certainly not a country for me, I'll never live there (or in any Islamic country for that matter) but why aren't European allowed to protect their own culture and people from foreign encroachment? It is beyond me.

The real problem is, those refugees can register to colleges without entering the university exams, unlike Turkish citizens. Another problem is the mistreating of refugees towards the locals. I am only 25 percent ethnic Turkish. The rest is Circassian, Iranian and Romanian. I told that to some people and never encountered any negative reputation.

[Marmara]

Yes, exactly. Turkish members tell me they don't like Syrians, Afghans, Kurds, Blacks in Turkey and it is their right. Turkey is certainly not a country for me, I'll never live there (or in any Islamic country for that matter) but why aren't European allowed to protect their own culture and people from foreign encroachment? It is beyond me.

Bullshit, you obviously havr misinterprated what people say to you.

Kurds are native to Turkey, and they hate refugees as much as Turks do.

[Ayetooey]

Yes, exactly. Turkish members tell me they don't like Syrians, Afghans, Kurds, Blacks in Turkey and it is their right. Turkey is certainly not a country for me, I'll never live there (or in any Islamic country for that matter) but why aren't European allowed to protect their own culture and people from foreign encroachment? It is beyond me.

If I had to live in a Muslim country it would be Kuwait or Uae or something. I don't drink or do drugs and I have a beard anyway lool.

I think we just want them to integrate better, especially in western-central Europe, it isn't as much of a problem in Britain as it is in those countries, I don't want them all kicked out or something, just better integration and less political underpinning. Turkish Cypriots are the best integrated as they're basically non religious. If all Turks were gone I wouldn't be able to get a good Doner kebab also.

Conversely I've seen several Turkish members saying they want the Syrians in Turkey all kicked out, or rounded up Pogrom style. Which is pretty brutal.

[archangel]

Shit threads like this reminds why i love apricity:cool:

i miss duskfall and arberoi

[Leto]

we kurds fought along with turks for turkey and kurds live there since 1000 years . we established turkey together . we have every right for the country too . there are only problems because the turks started to deny us our language etc. after we built turkey together . in fact atatürk actually said he would give part of the land but after the war was over he said "tek millet tek bayrak tek vatan" (one people , one flag , one country) and they even tried to make us lost mountain turks etc. etc. . thats when problems started . I wont discuss this with any turkish member here because I dont have the nerves to deal with it but that is reality . many turks deny that and make their own history showing us as invaders etc. ....bullshit . I dont have anything against normal turks and we are brothers who are together since 1000 years and also there are mixes of turks and kurds .....it is just not possible to divide us anymore but I am sick of these people trying to always give us as scapegoats when turks do shit
I don't discuss it either, it is not my country nor will I live there in the future. I think Iraq should probably be split, it's a fake country anyway. So there'd be an independent Kurdistan, so Kurds from Turkey could immigrate there. But the ones that stay should probably assimilate into Turks. It is obvious that more homogenous countries are better off. No ethnic conflict, no identity politics, none of that shit.

[Leto]

Bullshit, you obviously havr misinterprated what people say to you.

Kurds are native to Turkey, and they hate refugees as much as Turks do.
I apologize, I should not have included Kurds in that list. Other than that my point still stands.

[archangel]

I apologize, I should not have included Kurds in that list. Other than that my point still stands.

you slavic slave have no right speak about us you baltoid, fat faced, snub nosed üntermensch

[Hadouken]

I don't discuss it either, it is not my country nor will I live there in the future. I think Iraq should probably be split, it's a fake country anyway. So there'd be an independent Kurdistan, so Kurds from Turkey could immigrate there. But the ones that stay should probably assimilate into Turks. It is obvious that more homogenous countries are better off. No ethnic conflict, no identity politics, none of that shit.

why should we go to iraq . such a bs

iraqi kurds are more foreign to me than west turks . haha

why should we leave our provinces ? trust me turks wouldnt even want this and would try to prevent kurds from moving out :lol: . because the order would fall . there are many kurdish policemen , soldiers , business men , and workers in important places in daily life . if we all left turkey the system would crash . turks wouldnt allow that to happen . they would only want the pkk supporters to go to iraq

[Marmara]

I was wondering the same thing. Like it was some kind of "disease" :lol:

People here can get very dumb, i also get very dumb often i admit.

[Kivan]

No, you're a typical Brazilian pardo. I just don't know why you are pretending to be Turkish lol

You are welcome to ask users like Hadouken, Impaler, Seya, Eskimo, etc if i am really it. And I wonder why a Syrian(or whatever you are) is so obssessed with us and desperatly trying to prove that Turks and Syrians are the same. Seems like you are pretending to be one here.

[Marmara]

why should we go to iraq . such a bs

iraqi kurds are more foreign to me than west turks . haha

why should we leave our provinces ? trust me turks wouldnt even want this and would try to prevent kurds from moving out :lol: . because the order would fall . there are many kurdish policemen , soldiers , business men , and workers in important places in daily life . if we all left turkey the system would crash . turks wouldnt allow that to happen . they would only want the pkk supporters to go to iraq

It's not even up to discussion, Leto is simply foreign to this part of world.

[Leto]

If all Turks were gone I wouldn't be able to get a good Doner kebab also.
Lol, how about simply getting a recipe? As if whites can't cook Middle Eastern or Asian dishes. You still have sushi without any Japanese immigrants around you. For example my parents make Central Asian dishes, I can cook the Indian lentil soup without having a shitload of Hindus living next to me, lol.

[Leto]

you slavic slave have no right speak about us you baltoid, fat faced, snub nosed üntermensch
I don't recall showing you my photo, dipshit.

[archangel]

I don't recall showing you my photo, dipshit.

you are an eastern slav so by default you are baltoid in look :cool:

[Ayetooey]

Lol, how about simply getting a recipe? As if whites can't cook Middle Eastern or Asian dishes. You still have sushi without any Japanese immigrants around you. For example my parents make Central Asian dishes, I can cook the Indian lentil soop without having a shitload of Hindus living next me, lol.

I'm not a White nationalist or supremacist or something, I have no problems with the ones who integrate and don't try to spread bad politics or radical islam. During the London riots many hard working Turks helped defend shops and businesses from the savage rioters. My problem is with the Erdoganists and racist selfhaters like Kivan who hate on fellow Browns like Arabs and think they're European.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZoGDVOX32U

[Leto]

It's not even up to discussion, Leto is simply foreign to this part of world.
Yeah, I am. But I've heard that Turks are worried about the growing Kurdish population. To us there is honestly not much difference between Turks and Kurds.

[Jana]

you are an eastern slav so by default you are baltoid in look :cool:

since when are true Turks curly haired like you ?

[StonyArabia]

I don't discuss it either, it is not my country nor will I live there in the future. I think Iraq should probably be split, it's a fake country anyway. So there'd be an independent Kurdistan, so Kurds from Turkey could immigrate there. But the ones that stay should probably assimilate into Turks. It is obvious that more homogenous countries are better off. No ethnic conflict, no identity politics, none of that shit.

Iraq will never let Kurdistan happen. Their autonomy is slowly being taken away. Now the Shia Arabs patrol the streets in Iraqi Kurdistan and no one dares to speak to them one word. Shia Arabs there are armed to the teeth. The Kurds lost the mini-civil war that happened between them and the Shia Arabs. My region remained neutral and did not want to part take on this, and the government can't force us because we are know under tribal elders rulership, and none of the Western Bedouin tribes will listen to the central government in Iraq, because they view it as a puppet one for both the U.S and Iran which they hate with passion. Also Iraq had quickly conquered the disputed regions like Kirkuk and they strangled the Iraqi Kurdish economy, and now Kurdistan lost all the prosperity that it enjoyed. Only the Western region now is truly autonomous. The Shia Arabs are not going to give their new founded powers like that in a scratch, they are holding Iraq as much as they can.

[archangel]

since when are true Turks curly haired like you ?

like this Tatar Türkic tennis player Marat Safin

Could be my older brother:cool:

https://resmim.net/f/SvBVFI.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/nzfkMT.jpg

[Hadouken]

lol we all went so much off topic

[Leto]

you are an eastern slav so by default you are baltoid in look :cool:
You were trying to describe my appearance, in particular my nose and face and that description was incorrect.

[Ayetooey]

lol we all went so much off topic

The topic was terrible anyway. Who care's if Arabs are part SSA anyway, this is just pointless racism and nothing else.

[Jana]

like this Tatar Türkic tennis player Marat Safin

Could be my older brother:cool:

https://resmim.net/f/SvBVFI.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/nzfkMT.jpg

You really look alike! :D

[Leto]

Iraq will never let Kurdistan happen. Their autonomy is slowly being taken away. Now the Shia Arabs patrol the streets in Iraqi Kurdistan and no one dares to speak to them one word. Shia Arabs there are armed to the teeth. The Kurds lost the mini-civil war that happened between them and the Shia Arabs. My region remained neutral and did not want to part take on this, and the government can't force us because we are know under tribal elders rulership, and none of the Western Bedouin tribes will listen to the central government in Iraq, because they view it as a puppet one for both the U.S and Iran which they hate with passion. Also Iraq had quickly conquered the disputed regions like Kirkuk and they strangled the Iraqi Kurdish economy, and now Kurdistan lost all the prosperity that it enjoyed. Only the Western region now is truly autonomous. The Shia Arabs are not going to give their new founded powers like that in a scratch, they are holding Iraq as much as they can.
Bad for them. I thought there would be an independent Kurdish state. All those damn mullahs and sultans don't allow that to happen.

[StonyArabia]

lol we all went so much off topic

It's a troll thread dude made by a complexed fool. Attacking us, trying to defame Afro-Asiatic people

[archangel]

You really look alike! :D

Its a common North Eurosian look sis :cool:

[archangel]

It's a troll thread dude made by a complexed fool. Attacking us, trying to defame Afro-Asiatic people

Some Arabic chicks from Lebanon/Syria ,İraq and North Africa hot though dude, i can give you that ;)

[StonyArabia]

The topic was terrible anyway. Who care's if Arabs are part SSA anyway, this is just pointless racism and nothing else.

Yep, even when ancient samples show some it and or even the most isolated Afro-Asiatic population like the Guanche of the Canary islanders do. The guy is troll and has complex and it backfired on him.

[Böri]

Apes,
This is anthro forum and a thread like any other thread. So, the fact that you perceive this topic as an offence to you shows that you are offended by the nature of the discussion, thus by your genetics. That's pathetic.

Also I have nothing against Semites or Arabic-speaking folks.

Actually Nafri girls with thin belly and defined shapes don't look bad at all.

[Böri]

Leto is a Jew.

[archangel]

Apes,
This is anthro forum and a thread like any other thread. So, the fact that you perceive this topic as an offence to you shows that you are offended by the nature of the discussion, thus by your genetics. That's pathetic.

Also I have nothing against Semites or Arabic-speaking folks.

Actually Nafri girls with thin belly and defined shapes don't look bad at all.

Agreed brother

[Leto]

Leto is a Jew.
And you are a penguin. :icon_lol:

[Hadouken]

Stony what exactly are people from Bahrain ?

dna land results of a bahrain guy :

https://image.ibb.co/dJfKXF/DNA_LAND.jpg

[Hadouken]

Stony what exactly are people from Bahrain ?

dna land results of a bahrain guy :

https://image.ibb.co/dJfKXF/DNA_LAND.jpg

[Hadouken]

same Bahraini guys gedmatch results :

dodecad k12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.62
2 Southwest_Asian 19.88
3 Gedrosia 17.49
4 Sub_Saharan 11.78
5 South_Asian 4.93
6 East_African 4.26
7 Atlantic_Med 4.20
8 North_European 2.58
9 Northwest_African 2.55

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians_Behar 17.943785
2 Jordanians_Behar 18.417656
3 Lebanese_Behar 18.949167
4 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar 19.646416
5 Iranians_Behar 19.658825
6 Kurd_Dodecad 20.600492
7 Iranian_Dodecad 21.021763
8 Palestinian_HGDP 21.049870
9 Kurds_Yunusbayev 21.428711
10 Yemenese_Behar 21.757568
11 Iraq_Jews_Behar 22.266127
12 Iranian_Jews_Behar 22.730381
13 Egyptans_Behar 23.518831
14 Turks_Behar 24.130405
15 Turkmens_Yunusbayev 24.859549
16 Georgia_Jews_Behar 24.882822
17 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar 25.161566
18 Druze_HGDP 25.300005
19 Assyrian_Dodecad 25.385939
20 Turkish_Dodecad 25.596418




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purdnal k13 glöbal

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.62
2 Southwest_Asian 19.88
3 Gedrosia 17.49
4 Sub_Saharan 11.78
5 South_Asian 4.93
6 East_African 4.26
7 Atlantic_Med 4.20
8 North_European 2.58
9 Northwest_African 2.55

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians_Behar 17.943785
2 Jordanians_Behar 18.417656
3 Lebanese_Behar 18.949167
4 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar 19.646416
5 Iranians_Behar 19.658825
6 Kurd_Dodecad 20.600492
7 Iranian_Dodecad 21.021763
8 Palestinian_HGDP 21.049870
9 Kurds_Yunusbayev 21.428711
10 Yemenese_Behar 21.757568
11 Iraq_Jews_Behar 22.266127
12 Iranian_Jews_Behar 22.730381
13 Egyptans_Behar 23.518831
14 Turks_Behar 24.130405
15 Turkmens_Yunusbayev 24.859549
16 Georgia_Jews_Behar 24.882822
17 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar 25.161566
18 Druze_HGDP 25.300005
19 Assyrian_Dodecad 25.385939
20 Turkish_Dodecad 25.596418


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[Hadouken]

Bahraini people

"MENA" race my ass ...

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AP110309030945.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Bahraini_flags_-_Flickr_-_Al_Jazeera_English.jpg

[lameduck]

Stony what exactly are people from Bahrain ?

dna land results of a bahrain guy :

https://image.ibb.co/dJfKXF/DNA_LAND.jpg

if i am not wrong , many behrainis are of iranian origin and resemble south iranians the most.

[StonyArabia]

Stony what exactly are people from Bahrain ?

dna land results of a bahrain guy :

https://image.ibb.co/dJfKXF/DNA_LAND.jpg

Bahraini are Gulf Arabs. They can be divided into 4 main ethnic groups Baharna(Shia Arabs), Sunni Bedouins, Huwala(Sunni Persians), and Ajam(Shia Persians). Bahranis would be very close to Iraqi Arabs genetically and culturally. They also speak a similar to dialect. The majority of Bahranis are Baharna Shia Arabs ruled by the Sunni Arab Bedouin minority.

[Leto]

Bahraini people

"MENA" race my ass ...

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AP110309030945.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Bahraini_flags_-_Flickr_-_Al_Jazeera_English.jpg
That's what I was talking about. Dark like a mofo. Obviously part SSA.

[YellowSkinnedMed]

“why African traits such as defined Jaw....” lmao@ OP probably thinking that this is a bad trait. You know that girls get turned on by a defined jaw?:picard2:

[StonyArabia]

if i am not wrong , many behrainis are of iranian origin and resemble south iranians the most.

Huwala and Ajam are of Persian origins, Baharna are not of Iranian origins, they are Shia Arabs. As for the other group no need lol.

[Ylla]

Is it related to e1b1b? Or something else?

[Hadouken]

if i am not wrong , many behrainis are of iranian origin and resemble south iranians the most.

well look at all the african he scores . they seem to be a mix of south iranian , arabian , african or something ....

[Hadouken]

That's what I was talking about. Dark like a mofo. Obviously part SSA.

well check the results of the bahraini guy I posted . he is 10% ssa

[Smeagol]

Is it related to e1b1b? Or something else?

E is a Middle Eastern haplogroup.

[StonyArabia]

well look at all the african he scores . they seem to be a mix of south iranian , arabian , african or something ....

We need to know his ethnicity other just Bahraini. There are 4 ethnic groups in that island, but they all are well integrated into that culture.

[StonyArabia]

Is it related to e1b1b? Or something else?

No just common Afro-Asiatic ancestry and it's ancient. Even Jews have some of it, and ancient samples showed some as well.

[Hadouken]

We need to know his ethnicity other just Bahraini. There are 4 ethnic groups in that island, but they all are well integrated into that culture.

one thing is for sure though . there ARE gulf arabs like this guy who score easily 10% ssa it seems . I can also imagine yemenis and omanis scoring some

it is an important factor that makes you guys different from us northwest asians . not that there is anything wrong with it

[Gangrel]

I don't know why it matters Afro-Asiatic score SSA.

Yes it is bonus. Women have bigger butts and men have bigger peepees

[Leto]

one thing is for sure though . there ARE gulf arabs like this guy who score easily 10% ssa it seems . I can also imagine yemenis and omanis scoring some

it is an important factor that makes you guys different from us northwest asians . not that there is anything wrong with it
I posted Saudi results up in the thread.

[Hadouken]

I posted Saudi results up in the thread.

saudi results I have seen dont score much ssa interestingly

[StonyArabia]

one thing is for sure though . there ARE gulf arabs like this guy who score easily 10% ssa it seems . I can also imagine yemenis and omanis scoring some

it is an important factor that makes you guys different from us northwest asians . not that there is anything wrong with it

Northwest Asians and Southwest Asians are already different with or without SSA, and like I said we always had SSA, even the most isolated group the Guanche their remains showed it. Yemenite Jews and Yemenites from the highlands don't have much, and the same is true of interior Omanis, they have similar levels to that of Saudis. Also some Berber groups have higher SSA than us and look Whiter like the Kabyles. We also have very different cultures, traditions and so on.

[happycow]

What a thread

[Joso]

Its a common North Eurosian look sis :cool:

This is also a common illiterate way of typing :cool:

[Marmara]

Sure and it wasn't you who were calling to mistreat Syrians. You are culturally connected to Afro Asiatics because you are from Mesopotamia. Turks have nothing to do with that world. Just as sharp differences as the genetics. And you can't blame anyone for standing away from MENAs.

We had 3.5 milion refugees in 5 years, now we keep having Afghans and others. Obviously somebody needs to say stop to this madness.

I used those words in that particular thread because i was angry at that moment.

There are Syrians who are fine, they can remain but only in few numbers. You don't need to have a crystal ball to see what's coming.

[Leto]

We had 3.5 milion refugees in 5 years, now we keep having Afghans and others. Obviously somebody needs to say stop to this madness.

I used those words in that particular thread because i was angry at that moment.

There are Syrians who are fine, they can remain but only in few numbers. You don't need to have a crystal ball to see what's coming.
I thought Erdogan was allowing them to stay temporarily just to dump them later onto the EU. He threatened a few times to open the flood gates and swamp Germany with migrants.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Btw Red_Sea is not SSA.

[rein]

I don't discuss it either, it is not my country nor will I live there in the future. I think Iraq should probably be split, it's a fake country anyway. So there'd be an independent Kurdistan, so Kurds from Turkey could immigrate there. But the ones that stay should probably assimilate into Turks. It is obvious that more homogenous countries are better off. No ethnic conflict, no identity politics, none of that shit.

Oh, do you really think Kurdistan is confined to Iraq.

[Rieder]

Defined jaw? Most of the SSA in Semitics is East African and they have probably shittest bone structure in the world. And most Semitics do not have a defined jaw, what a lie.

Ethiopoids/Hamitics Are more Aquiline-featured and progressive than many Europeans.

They have thinner lips, higher foreheads, and more leptorrine noses than Central Europeans.

With this they Are also very seldom robust.

That it an accurate observation.

[Leto]

Oh, do you really think Kurdistan is confined to Iraq.
I don't. But Iran and Turkey won't let any of their provinces secede. Even Bashar won't. Iraq is weak and fragmented though, so I thought it would be more possible there.

[rein]

I don't. But Iran and Turkey won't let any of their provinces secede. Even Bashar won't. Iraq is weak and fragmented though, so I thought it would be more possible there.

Now I see your true colours.

[rein]

Stony what exactly are people from Bahrain ?

dna land results of a bahrain guy :

https://image.ibb.co/dJfKXF/DNA_LAND.jpg

Bahrain is a multi-ethnic society that has a lot of south Asians and some Africans.

[Marmara]

I thought Erdogan was allowing them to stay temporarily just to dump them later onto the EU. He threatened a few times to open the flood gates and swamp Germany with migrants.

You think a lot of things wrong.

[Ibericus]

you wasted your time doing those graphs. Red Sea is not sub-saharan (altough it might a few % of it )

[Marmara]

I thought Erdogan was allowing them to stay temporarily just to dump them later onto the EU. He threatened a few times to open the flood gates and swamp Germany with migrants.

I got your Rep comment. Do i look like a dumb person to you? This question is not genuine. 3.5 million refugees live in Turkey for 5 years and don't seem to be leaving, and you belittle the problem as a mere political game of Erdoğan. I'm very aware that you were being passive aggressive this whole time.

[Leto]

I got your Rep comment. Do i look like a dumb person to you? This question is not genuine. 3.5 million refugees live in Turkey for 5 years and don't seem to be leaving, and you belittle the problem as a mere political game of Erdoğan. I'm very aware that you were being passive aggressive this whole time.
No, I didn't mean that. You made up a lot of stuff. My comment had no implicit meaning. Anyway like I said, I won't be asking you anything.

[Marmara]

No, I didn't mean that. You made up a lot of stuff. My comment had no implicit meaning. Anyway like I said, I won't be asking you anything.

Good, because you also misinterprate my answers.

[Norka]

Turks trying to say they are not related to Arabs is like a donkey saying it is not related to another donkey but rather related to a horse. Shut up mutts you all look the same.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

you wasted your time doing those graphs. Red Sea is not sub-saharan (altough it might a few % of it )

Probably 5-6% SSA. Even East African may not be fully SSA.

[Wrong]

It's the remaining leftover proto Shem-Ham-Japheth admixture.

[FinalFlash]

Red Sea isn't a Subsaharan African component. And really, only Jordanians and Palestinians are able to hit 10% SSA+EA on these tests. Obviously I dont include Gulfers, Yemenis, Saudis and North Africans because that's obvious. Clearly Syrians and Lebanese score 3-5% combined which shouldn't show in their phenotypes.

[Aren]

The SSA in semites is only prominent in peninsular Arabia through slave trade, ancient Levantine and West Asian Semites did not harbour any SSA

And neither do many modern Semitic speakers yet today ie us Assyrians, Aramaic speaking Mizrahi Jews, Mandeans and probably many Levantine Christians.
SSA admixture is almost completely tied to Arabic speakers + Islam in Western Asia.

[Böri]

you wasted your time doing those graphs. Red Sea is not sub-saharan (altough it might a few % of it )

That's part SSA, anyway thread says African admixture not exclusive for Subsaharan.


Is K15 the go to calculator on GedMatch?
K13 is their default calculator and has some different results::rolleyes:

Central Greek Red Sea 5.03 Central Greek NE African0.03 Central Greek SSA0.01=5.07

Turkish Red Sea5.46 [B]

Less than 2% Red Sea in Turks. No East African or SSA. For Greeks some more. Especially for islanders,
Iberians are another story. Especially Portugues mixed with their slaves.

[Smeagol]

Less than 2% Red Sea in Turks. No East African or SSA. For Greeks some more. Especially for islanders,
Iberians are another story. Especially Portugues mixed with their slaves.

Are you blind or just delusional? The results show Turks have over 5% Red Sea. More than Greeks.