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poiuytrewq0987
04-28-2011, 12:39 PM
The Ottoman census once counted an estimated 8 million Haemusan inhabitants (undoubtedly made up of a Greek majority with significant Serbian and Bulgarian populations and an Albanian minority) in the late 1400s. However by the 1700s the Haemusan peoples did not experience a normal growth but a serious and damaging decline that put us on the brink of extinction. We were reduced to a mere 3 million all over the Haemus according to the Ottoman census at the time.

Which meant what? It meant there were mostly likely only a million Greeks left with a couple hundred thousands of Serbs and Bulgarians with significant minorities of Albanians, Turks and Gypsies.

We were indeed on the brink of extinction. The Great Three Races that once held Haemus in European hands were thrown asunder onto a path of extinction. However under seemingly impossible odds, the shadow of the Ottoman Caliphate that had for so long repressed Haemusans who contributed to our near-extinction by taking away our children to become Janssaries under the service of the Caliphate... it weakened and an opportunity to restore our greatness was presented.

Beginning with Serb and Greek revolts in early 1800s which was made possible with the loosening of the Caliphate noose allowing us to replenish our numbers in the 1700s setting the stage for the liberation of Hameusan peoples. The status of Sick Man of Europe the Ottoman Caliphate held was indeed true as without the decline of the Caliphate we would have disappeared entirely.

Albion
04-29-2011, 07:29 PM
How do you pronounce it in English?

Hay-mus? He-mus? It sounds a bit weird to be honest, it sounds like I'm saying hello to a moose.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_03/mooseDM2003_468x440.jpg

It is a good thing though that your thinking of replacing a name the imperialists gave the region, if you can get enough people to use it then maybe it'll come back into popular usage.

poiuytrewq0987
04-30-2011, 08:10 PM
How do you pronounce it in English?

Hay-mus? He-mus? It sounds a bit weird to be honest, it sounds like I'm saying hello to a moose.

It is a good thing though that your thinking of replacing a name the imperialists gave the region, if you can get enough people to use it then maybe it'll come back into popular usage.

Well, I think the name is much more European and better-sounding than that Balkan thing we've got going right now.

poiuytrewq0987
05-01-2011, 12:41 AM
I am fairly appalled at the apathy and disdain of the genocide that occurred against Haemusan peoples.

Only 3 million Haemusans remained in the 18th century in comparison to 8 million in the 15th century.

An active and live genocide occurred against the Greek, Serbs, Albanians and Bulgarians. And what have we heard from such event? Nothing, zip, zero, zilch.

It is nothing but a miracle that we survive today.

To try and replicate the terror, astonishment and shock for yourself.

Imagine your country was once a country that boasted a population of ten million in the 15th century however due to continued occupation by a non-European power, a poor economy, a serious decline in birthrate, the children that do get born are enrolled into the occupiers' military service trained to be soldiers for the occupiers, all noxious effects causes you country's population to rapidly drop and experience near-zero growth to boast a population of just 2 million by the 18th century.

Can you feel the astonishment that you survived such event? Can you gasp at the terror that your ancestors went through? Can you feel the shock that such thing was even allowed to happen?

It happened to us.

Guapo
05-01-2011, 12:43 AM
It's Haîmos :rolleyes:

poiuytrewq0987
05-01-2011, 12:44 AM
It's Haîmos :rolleyes:

Wikipediaed that didn't ya?

Guapo
05-01-2011, 01:03 AM
Wikipediaed that didn't ya?

Your real name is Jasmin and you're a musician

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Osweo
05-01-2011, 01:25 AM
It's a stupid name.

I had thought that the chunk of land that ended up called Balkan in Turkish ended up giving the name to a particular range of mountains that once had this weird Greek or Graeco-illyrian-thraco-dacian-whatever name, and that 'Haemus' =/= 'Balkan' in the wider conventional sense.

I find no reference or citation of this supposed wider usage of ερσόνησος τοῦ Αἵμου, Chersónēsos tou Haímou on wiki, naturally... :tsk:

English, Spanish and Russian wiki were no good on it, but it's quite clear in the Bulgarski version;

Названието Балкански полуостров е било предложено за първи път и въведено в научните среди от немския географ Аугуст Цойне през 1808 г. в публикуваната от него книга „Опит за научно описание на земята“. Предлагайки това название, Аугуст Цойне се е ръководел от две обстоятелства. На първо място това била аналогията с названията на другите два южни европейски полуострова: Апенинския полуостров и Пиренейския полуостров. Те получават имената си от планините, които доминират на тях или ги ограничават на европейския материк. На второ място, немският географ е повлиян от наложената от античните географи представа, че планината Хемус (Балкан, Стара планина) е пресичала хоризонтелно полуострова и се е простирала без прекъсване от Черно море до полуостров Истрия. Предполагало се е, че тази планинска верига не само дава географски облик на земите, южно от река Дунав, но и че ги отделя от останалата територия на Европа. Доминирало схващането, че планинската верига, наричана все по-често Балкан, представлявала естествена северна граница на земите, които Аугуст Цойне означава като „Балкански полуостров“.
... that August Zeune (sp?) was responsible for making a peninsular name from this mountain range. ;)