In Turkey or in Armenia?

[cyberlorian]

Where do Circassians pass better as a native? In Turkey or in Armenia?

[Kivan]

Turkey.

[Kamal900]

Turkey obviously. Armenians are more darker than them.

[Joso]

Turkey

[Hadouken]

Berkan :cussing

[cyberlorian]

Berkan :cussing

Buyur canim benim :)

[Dekziiro]

NE Turkey, but from what i've been told, they mixed with Turks so everywhere in Turkey excluding South.

[Dekziiro]

North Caucasians rarely have Armenid types or Armenid influence now, some still have, but it's disappearing for some reason, sad, because i like this phenotype.

[cyberlorian]

NE Turkey, but from what i've been told, they mixed with Turks so everywhere in Turkey excluding South.

Why not South?

[Hadouken]

Buyur canim benim :)

:lol:

[Dekziiro]

Why not South?

I've been told, that there is many Orientalid types in South Turkey ? It was on a thread where somebody asked to classify a British-Turk named Murat Erdogan iirc

[cyberlorian]

North Caucasians rarely have Armenid types or Armenid influence now, some still have, but it's disappearing for some reason, sad, because i like this phenotype.

Which phenotypes are common among North Caucasians?

[Kivan]

NE Turkey, but from what i've been told, they mixed with Turks so everywhere in Turkey excluding South.

Do you live in NC? This guy below is a Circassian from Turkey. Can he pass as Circassian from Russia? If yes, how typical is his look there?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/b4/41/c6b4414ba6c097d44e89c1c387e72eb8.jpg

[cyberlorian]

I've been told, that there is many Orientalid types in South Turkey ? It was on a thread where somebody asked to classify a British-Turk named Murat Erdogan iirc

Orientalid is not so common in Southern Anatolia. Eastern Orientalid type is found in the East and in the Southeast but not very frequent. Southern Anatolians are usually Turanid, Atlanto Mediterranid, Dinarid or Anatolid (Dinarid-Armenoid).

[Kivan]

I've been told, that there is many Orientalid types in South Turkey ? It was on a thread where somebody asked to classify a British-Turk named Murat Erdogan iirc

Southeast region is mainly Kurdish. South coast/Mediterranean region has some Arabs.

[Hadouken]

I've been told, that there is many Orientalid types in South Turkey ? It was on a thread where somebody asked to classify a British-Turk named Murat Erdogan iirc

depends on what orientalid is supposed to mean . if you mean arabo types then it is mainly the south . we kurds dont have that

[cyberlorian]

I've been told, that there is many Orientalid types in South Turkey ? It was on a thread where somebody asked to classify a British-Turk named Murat Erdogan iirc


Southeast region is mainly Kurdish. South coast/Mediterranean region has some Arabs.


depends on what orientalid is supposed to mean . if you mean arabo types then it is mainly the south . we kurds dont have that

Yes, they have some Orientalid but it is usually blended with Dinarid or Atlanto Mediterranid types just like Northern Levatines, as far as I know. Predominantly Arabid type is much more common among Southern Levatines and Gulf Arabians.

[Kivan]

Yes, they have some Orientalid but it is usually blended with Dinarid or Atlanto Mediterranid types as far as I know.

No. Only Arabs or Arab admixed people have Arabid/Orientalid phenotype.

[Gangrel]

Turkey. There was a Kurdish guy here who had Circassian maternal ancestry, his mtDNA was Mongolian

[Dekziiro]

Do you live in NC? This guy below is a Circassian from Turkey. Can he pass as Circassian from Russia? If yes, how typical is his look there?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/b4/41/c6b4414ba6c097d44e89c1c387e72eb8.jpg

I live at Nice, there is many North Caucasians there, especially in sport gyms.
But i'm from North France (we are different from South France).
I'm not expert about Circassians but it looks like he has some Turkish blood on him, i would say 40-50%

[cyberlorian]

No. Only Arabs or Arab admixed people have Arabid/Orientalid phenotype.

Actually I was talking about the ethnic Arabs in Turkey. :)

I guess, even they are not more Orientalid than Northern Levantines.

[rein]

Somewhere north of Turkey and Armenia.

[Hadouken]

Actually I was talking about the ethnic Arabs in Turkey. :)

I guess, even they are not more Orientalid than Northern Levantines.

haluk levent is a good example of a turkish arab I think

[cyberlorian]

I live at Nice, there is many North Caucasians there, especially in sport gyms.
But i'm from North France (we are different from South France).
I'm not expert about Circassians but it looks like he has some Turkish blood on him, i would say 40-50%

In fact, I do not think that there is a huge phenotypical gap between Turks and North Caucasians because on PCA graphs, these two populations are considerably close to each other.

[StonyArabia]

Turkey

[cyberlorian]

haluk levent is a good example of a turkish arab I think

Yes :)

I cannot undertand why some people think that Levantines are less Orientalid than Arabs of Turkey. :)

[Hadouken]

Yes :)

I cannot undertand why some people think that Levantines are less Orientalid than Arabs of Turkey. :)

because of the Pizza manlet Sikeliot

[Dekziiro]

Which phenotypes are common among North Caucasians?

Depends.
Cherkess, Adyghe or Abkhaz have Pontids, Alpines and sometimes Dinaro-Armenoid types.
Turkic groups like Karachays have (unsurprisingly) many Turanid types (like popular singer Dima Bilan) but also Pontids, etc
Ossetes have Pontids, Alpines and Iranids, rarely Turanids and Armeno-Dinarids but exist)
Chechens and Ingush are Alpines, Dinarids, CM mostly, sometimes Pontids, Baltids, and most rarely Gorids, Iranids, Turanids, Armenids, Nordids
Dagestanis are Armenids, Alpines, Dinarids,Caspids, sometimes Iranids, Turanids, Baltids, etc

(i excluded Mtebid but it's Alpine-Dinarid-Armenid)

[cyberlorian]

Depends.
Cherkess, Adyghe or Abkhaz have Pontids, Alpines and sometimes Dinaro-Armenoid types.
Turkic groups like Karachays have (unsurprisingly) many Turanid types (like popular singer Dima Bilan) but also Pontids, etc
Ossetes have Pontids, Alpines and Iranids, rarely Turanids and Armeno-Dinarids but exist)
Chechens and Ingush are Alpines, Dinarids, CM mostly, sometimes Pontids, Baltids, and most rarely Gorids, Iranids, Turanids, Armenids, Nordids
Dagestanis are Armenids, Alpines, Dinarids,Caspids, sometimes Iranids, Turanids, Baltids, etc

(i excluded Mtebid but it's Alpine-Dinarid-Armenid)

Hmmm. Baltid seems to be very interesting.

[Dekziiro]

In fact, I do not think that there is a huge phenotypical gap between Turks and North Caucasians because on PCA graphs, these two populations are considerably close to each other.

Agreed, but, Turks have more East_Med than North Kavkazians (North East Caucasians have more Baltid ((thanks Russia lol)) than East_Med).
I think, they're not close to anybody, they look indigenous.

[Dekziiro]

Hmmm. Baltid seems to be very interesting.

Yep, people tell me it's because of prehistoric connexions, but i don't know.
Having 20-30% Baltic on Eurogenes K13, you can't tell me they don't mixed with Russians... but anyway, i respect their thoughs

[cyberlorian]

Yep, people tell me it's because of prehistoric connexions, but i don't know.
Having 20-30% Baltic on Eurogenes K13, you can't tell me they don't mixed with Russians... but anyway, i respect their thoughs

For the phenotypes, North Caucasians has some Baltid faces, which is almost inexistent in Turkey. Turkey has significantly more Atlanto Mediterranid faces. Turkey has relatively more Dinarid-Armenoid and Turanid faces.

[Dekziiro]

For the phenotypes, North Caucasians has some Baltid faces, which is almost inexistent in Turkey. Turkey has significantly more Atlanto Mediterranid faces. Turkey has relatively more Dinarid-Armenoid and Turanid faces.

There is many West European looking people in Turkey, while in N.C many look East or North East Europeans

[mutabor]

Adyghe wedding


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGjRxrWkgc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ygl9zI_eo8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eI6wOlyKHU

[archangel]

wtf is this thread?