Cromagnid is more common among Northwest Europeans but Northeast Europeans have more WHG admixture.

[cyberlorian]

Cromagnid is more common among Northwest Europeans but Northeast Europeans have more WHG admixture than Northwest Europeans. Why?

[Token]

Because broad faced European phenotypes have little to do with WHG admixture, that was a error made by old Anthropologists before the advent of genetics. WHG admixture doesn't go higher than 25% in Europe.

[Not a Cop]

Because broad faced European phenotypes have little to do with WHG admixture, that was a error made by old Anthropologists before the advent of genetics. WHG admixture doesn't go higher than 25% in Europe.

Well it all depends on the way of counting the admixture.

[Caveat Emptor]

Cromagnid is more common among Northwest Europeans but Northeast Europeans have more WHG admixture than Northwest Europeans. Why?


Because broad faced European phenotypes have little to do with WHG admixture, that was a error made by old Anthropologists before the advent of genetics. WHG admixture doesn't go higher than 25% in Europe.


Well it all depends on the way of counting the admixture.

Guys explain to a lay person what exactly is the difference between Cromagnid and Western Hunter Gatherer, surely both are one and the same? Descending from the remaining mix of upper paleolithic cromagnon hunter gatherer from 40.000 years and incoming neolithic farmer 12.000 years ago?

[DarknessWin]

Real Cromagnids exist in Iberia and France actually and not in north europe

[Token]

Well it all depends on the way of counting the admixture.

Yes, if you discount WHG inherited indirectly from EHG this figure should be even lower than that. That shows us how most of Europe changed drastically after the Mesolithic.

[Caveat Emptor]

Yes, if you discount WHG inherited indirectly from EHG this figure should be even lower than that. That shows us how most of Europe changed drastically after the Mesolithic.

Where is EHG gone by the way? It used to be in Russia and Scandinavia wasn't it? Also, what exactly is the difference (if there is any at all?) between Cromagnid and WHG?

[Not a Cop]

Where is EHG gone by the way? It used to be in Russia and Scandinavia wasn't it? Also, what exactly is the difference (if there is any at all?) between Cromagnid and WHG?

EHG was incorporated in Indo-European genome after that spreaded all over the Eurasia and later the World. Some of EHG that did not became IE and stayed pure were later absorbed during different colonisation waves.

Cromagnid is an anthropological term reffering to Paleothic Europeans, named after Cro-magnon cave in France, where one of the first skulls of thoose peoples were found and identified.
WHG is genetical term reffering to component that originates in Paleolithic Western Europeans which got differented due to their isolation from other peoples of Earth.


Yes, if you discount WHG inherited indirectly from EHG this figure should be even lower than that. That shows us how most of Europe changed drastically after the Mesolithic.

Well maximum way is from IE via EHG+Additional EHG in Eatern Europe+WHG part of ENF. No doubt Europe has changed dramatically.

[Caveat Emptor]

EHG was incorporated in Indo-European genome after that spreaded all over the Eurasia and later the World. Some of EHG that did not became IE and stayed pure were later absorbed during different colonisation waves.

Cromagnid is an anthropological term reffering to Paleothic Europeans, named after Cro-magnon cave in France, where one of the first skulls of thoose peoples were found and identified.
WHG is genetical term reffering to component that originates in Paleolithic Western Europeans which got differented due to their isolation from other peoples of Earth.



Well maximum way is from IE via EHG+Additional EHG in Eatern Europe+WHG part of ENF. No doubt Europe has changed dramatically.

Token did you read that? EHG component in Indoeuropeans may be the explanatory factor in my hypothesis in my thread we were discussing - I have not taken this into account.

[Caveat Emptor]

EHG was incorporated in Indo-European genome after that spreaded all over the Eurasia and later the World. Some of EHG that did not became IE and stayed pure were later absorbed during different colonisation waves.

Cromagnid is an anthropological term reffering to Paleothic Europeans, named after Cro-magnon cave in France, where one of the first skulls of thoose peoples were found and identified.
WHG is genetical term reffering to component that originates in Paleolithic Western Europeans which got differented due to their isolation from other peoples of Earth.


So both WHG + Cromagnid = Paleolithic Europeans?

[Aodhan]

I think cromagnid is more commom on central/west europe
France or Germany for example

[Nurzat]

I am CroMagnon look like the Ancestor ask me

[Not a Cop]

So both WHG + Cromagnid = Paleolithic Europeans?

In short:

Cromagnid- anthropological term, reffers to phenotype of Paleolithic Europeans.

WHG - genetical term, reffers to genotype of Paleolithic Europeans.

[Caveat Emptor]

I think cromagnid is more commom on central/west europe
France or Germany for example

It is the most prevalent in Central and Northern Europe in particular, also in the British Isles and Ireland

Ultimately, we are all a mix of paleolithic hunter gatherers, neolithic farmers and indoeuropean horsemen in Europe.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/2iu419z.jpg

[Caveat Emptor]

Also WHG admixture is occurring even beyond Europe