Classify 2 Italian mafiosi.

[Sikeliot]

They are father and son. They probably would be classified differently.. I don't see a family resemblance.


http://af11.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/salvatore_lopiccolo.jpghttp://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/AlessandroPiccoloR_468x427.jpg

[Rouxinol]

They look foreign, like... Gypsies? The last one could be from India, so anything in the Indid subrace, maybe Nordindid.

[Sikeliot]

Their names are Salvatore and Sandro Lo Piccolo.

[Rouxinol]

Their names are Salvatore and Sandro Lo Piccolo.

http://isaac.guidasicilia.it/foto/news/cronaca/salvo_sandro_lopiccolo2_N.jpg?0.28079020722350284

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01605/LoPiccolo_1605240c.jpg

Well, I went searching and found these better pictures of the father. He looks quite Europid (Alpinid or somewhat Dinarid?), as opposed to his son, which is very different - maybe fruit of a cross with a gypsy/indian woman? Just saying. I think his son would fall in the Indid subrace (Nordindid probably). What's your opinion?

[Sikeliot]

I don't think the son looks Indian so much.. but he doesn't look like his dad. I wonder who the mom was.

[Rouxinol]

I wonder who the mom was.

Definitely!

[Sikeliot]

I can't find anything about the mother.. but the family is from Palermo.

[askra]

the father looks european

the son could pass for a south asian :eek:

another picture:
http://af11.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/sandro-lo-piccolo.jpg


his mother is Rosalia Di Trapani (very typical sicilian name and surname), she is 66
but i'm not able to find any picture of her

[Sikeliot]

He doesn't look South Asian to me at all. :lol: He looks more Kurdish if you had to pick anything outside of Europe.

[Nurzat]

well there is a minority of south italians looking like north africans or arabs/levantines not to mention the many greek-looking (calabria was greek-speaking until the late middle ages). there were also some gypsies melt in the population so who knows how this phenotype got to the guy. it is strange that southern italy is, generalising, as dark as crete, so darker than portugal, southern spain or greece which are also thought to be darker than the rest of the continent
the father seems dinaro-mediterranean and the son looks like a nordindid-mediterranean mix

[Rouxinol]

He doesn't look South Asian to me at all. :lol: He looks more Kurdish if you had to pick anything outside of Europe.

Well, you might be right. I'm just not used at all to see types at least resembling that of the son around unless on gypsies (who are said to have come from India in remote times) or people with their ancestry in India, then my Indid hypothesis. :lol:

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

good Italian specimen. :thumb001:
they are strongly mediterranid.

[Sikeliot]

it is strange that southern italy is, generalising, as dark as crete, so darker than portugal, southern spain or greece which are also thought to be darker than the rest of the continent


I think in terms of hair and eye colors, Portugal and Spain are more homogenously dark.. but their facial features are almost always distinctly Western European, which may make them appear lighter because their look is more familiar to those who are used to seeing standard Western Europeans.

[Hess]

The son can pass as Europid, IMO. Quite exotic but still more Europid than any other race

[Sikeliot]

The son can pass as Europid, IMO. Quite exotic but still more Europid than any other race

I think he looks Southeast European or from the Caucasus, personally.

[Rouxinol]

The son can pass as Europid, IMO. Quite exotic but still more Europid than any other race

What Europid subrace would he fit in then? I've never seen anyone like him around other than gypsy or indid, as this one:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9gcceJohlAk/Rph_faVV10I/AAAAAAAACZc/jKmI9VpFs6Q/s400/Quresma.mundo.deportivo.jpg http://stanjames.teamtalk.com/Images/220965.jpg

[Hess]

What Europid subrace would he fit in then? I've never seen anyone like him around other than gypsy or indid, as this one:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9gcceJohlAk/Rph_faVV10I/AAAAAAAACZc/jKmI9VpFs6Q/s400/Quresma.mundo.deportivo.jpg http://stanjames.teamtalk.com/Images/220965.jpg

Like I said, he is very exotic. He is just on the edge of Europid. He could pass, I think, as an exotic Greek or Cypriot. However, just because he could pass as a Europid doesn't mean he is one. There is a very good chance that his mother was not fully European.

[Sikeliot]

There is a very good chance that his mother was not fully European.

I've been trying to find out information on her but I can't find anything.. another poster did provide her name though.

[Tony]

The father , the odd looking son , how the mom look like etc...
Hey Princesa why don't you mind your business?
mafiosi don't like people who put their noses in stuff they shouldn't do...

http://www.voceditalia.it/public/foto/46586.jpg

[Sikeliot]

I am minding my business!

[Foxy]

well there is a minority of south italians looking like north africans or arabs/levantines not to mention the many greek-looking (calabria was greek-speaking until the late middle ages). there were also some gypsies melt in the population so who knows how this phenotype got to the guy. it is strange that southern italy is, generalising, as dark as crete, so darker than portugal, southern spain or greece which are also thought to be darker than the rest of the continent
the father seems dinaro-mediterranean and the son looks like a nordindid-mediterranean mix

That guy cannot be choosen as rapresentative of any part of Italy, including also Southern Italy. Southern Italians may be dark but not that dark. The only region where they could be found are Calabria and Sicily anyway and if I have understood well he is Sicilian. But not all the Sicilian look that way.

[Sikeliot]

He's definitely atypical, I agree (for all of Europe as a matter of fact).

[Portukalos]

I have seen already seen specimens of dark S.Italians (in terms of features). He probably has a tan though.

[alzo zero]

That guy cannot be choosen as rapresentative of any part of Italy, including also Southern Italy.
Luckily there are no Sicilians in this forum. Threads like this one have an inflamatory potential.

[Hess]

Luckily there are no Sicilians in this forum. Threads like this one have an inflamatory potential.

Every region has it's "undesired" people. this guy obviously does not represent the average sicillian, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is not a full Italian. Exotic types can always be found.

So until solid evidence is presented, he is still an Italian.

[Sikeliot]

Luckily there are no Sicilians in this forum. Threads like this one have an inflamatory potential.

I didn't mean any offense.. things are only offensive if people take offense. ;)

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

I don't think they're so much atypical
an other sicilian
http://www.classificamusica.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fiorello.jpg

[alzo zero]

I don't think they're so much atypical
an other sicilian
http://www.classificamusica.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fiorello.jpg
And a minority of Serbs look like these handsome guys:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6iLW3Duriao/TZJbnDG9MjI/AAAAAAAACz0/Zj3LzErC5Rg/s1600/serbi+racalmuto.jpg

Look I don't even like Sicilians that much but I respect them and it's fair to say that if a Sicilian came here and started posting Serbs like those or "ambiguous" Portuguese he would be bashed senseless by insults from everywhere. It is just my opinion you can post unrepresentative Sicilians as much as you want, only I don't see what's the point in posting unrepresentative (and obviously tanned) people from a certain region and make them pass for "normal" unless it is for bashing purpose. Peace... :)

[Sikeliot]

Look I don't even like Sicilians that much but I respect them and it's fair to say that if a Sicilian came here and started posting Serbs like those or "ambiguous" Portuguese he would be bashed senseless by insults from everywhere. It is just my opinion you can post unrepresentative Sicilians as much as you want, only I don't see what's the point in posting unrepresentative (and obviously tanned) people from a certain region and make them pass for "normal" unless it is for bashing purpose. Peace... :)


The problem is that he wants to make the rest of Southern Europe appear darker than it is, but he isn't willing to acknowledge that there are dark and "swarthy" Serbs too. :rolleyes:

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

The problem is that he wants to make the rest of Southern Europe appear darker than it is, but he isn't willing to acknowledge that there are dark and "swarthy" Serbs too. :rolleyes:

Why do you speak of the skin? I've posted that photos becuase the shape of the head, the ears and the haircut look alike.
Probably they're both very tanned, but both looks Italian, they're not atypical.

[Aviane]

well there is a minority of south italians looking like north africans or arabs/levantines not to mention the many greek-looking (calabria was greek-speaking until the late middle ages). there were also some gypsies melt in the population so who knows how this phenotype got to the guy. it is strange that southern italy is, generalising, as dark as crete, so darker than portugal, southern spain or greece which are also thought to be darker than the rest of the continent
the father seems dinaro-mediterranean and the son looks like a nordindid-mediterranean mix

I seen photos of this family and have watched their documentry they look like the quite rare types you see in South Italy/Sicily, so this is not a surprise at all but yes it could probably come from Gypsies or if not then probably a Levantine component.

I could see these two passing in the Greek Islands (Corfu, Cyprus and Crete), Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and Kurdistan.

Father: Dinarid-Med
Son: Exotic Med/Nord-Indid-Eastern Med.

[shark]

mediterraneans

[MinervaItalica]

mediterraneans

You can cut your obsession for Italians, sock. There are many recent classifications no need to bumb Stone Age trolling threads...

[shark]

You can cut your obsession for Italians, sock. There are many recent classifications no need to bumb Stone Age trolling threads...

Why you be so mad? babyboy didn't your nonna play with you enough

[MinervaItalica]

Why you be so mad? babyboy didn't your nonna play with you enough

You're the one who continue to create socks because you don't have anything else to do beside trolling. Why you don't tell us who you are or are you so pussy to hide behind a sock account? :rolleyes:

[shark]

You're the one who continue to create socks because you don't have anything else to do beside trolling. Why you don't tell us who you are or are you so pussy to hide behind a sock account? :rolleyes:

Why are you here? Don't you have better things in your life than answer in "troll threads" anyways it's you who continue these convos Iq fighter

[MinervaItalica]

Why are you here? Don't you have better things in your life than answer in "troll threads"

I can use the same line with you... SOCK. :rolleyes:

[shark]

Lol at this autist troll: "portugal is darker than calabria" yes the OP is as Italian as Denzel Washington.

[Lek]

They look foreign, like... Gypsies? The last one could be from India, so anything in the Indid subrace, maybe Nordindid.

None of them look gypsy.

[Odin]

Father: Dinaro-Med
Son: East-Med.

[Tauromachos]

They are father and son. They probably would be classified differently.. I don't see a family resemblance.


http://af11.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/salvatore_lopiccolo.jpghttp://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/AlessandroPiccoloR_468x427.jpg

The left one from viewers perspective could pass as Chechen,the right one is one of the rare examples of Non-Gypsy euros that would really look Gypsy!

Not like the usual dark tanned Spanish,Portugese "John Does" or non-slavic looking Romanians falsly potrayed as Gypsies here by some by some users;)

[Septentrion]

the father looks european

the son could pass for a south asian :eek:

another picture:
http://af11.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/sandro-lo-piccolo.jpg


his mother is Rosalia Di Trapani (very typical sicilian name and surname), she is 66
but i'm not able to find any picture of her

Not South Asian, rather Middle-Eastern or Northern African!

[Bakha]

Ahaha figlio looks like Pakistani/Indian