Post your K13 Baltic score

[Bogdan]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.73
2 Baltic 27.22
3 West_Med 14.93
4 East_Med 10.19
5 West_Asian 3.38
6 Siberian 1.07
7 Red_Sea 0.97
8 Amerindian 0.49
9 South_Asian 0.01

[alnortedelsur]

Mine (Ancestry DNA):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.95
2 West_Med 22.01
3 East_Med 15.7
4 Baltic 8.88
5 Amerindian 6.66
6 Sub-Saharan 5.34
7 West_Asian 4.2
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 1.4
10 Siberian 0.75

[Norb]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.16
2 Baltic 23.3
3 West_Med 16.45
4 East_Med 7.32
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 South_Asian 1.07
7 Siberian 0.78

[Gründig]

Baltic 25.01

[Dick]

32.10

[oszkar07]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.91
2 Baltic 31.04
3 West_Med 12.32
4 East_Med 8.99
5 West_Asian 4.7
6 Siberian 2.29
7 Red_Sea 1.68
8 Oceanian 0.07

[Kaspias]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.68
2 Baltic 19.39
3 West_Asian 15.84
4 North_Atlantic 15.26
5 West_Med 12.5
6 Siberian 6.86
7 Red_Sea 1.79
8 South_Asian 1.76
9 East_Asian 1.71
10 Sub-Saharan 0.91
11 Amerindian 0.8
12 Oceanian 0.5

[alnortedelsur]

I'm the least Baltic person on here so far, lol

By the way, my Spanish mom (23andme):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.97
2 West_Med 26.18
3 East_Med 21.14
4 Baltic 10.49
5 Red_Sea 2.34
6 Northeast_African 1.61
7 Sub-Saharan 1.22
8 West_Asian 0.79
9 South_Asian 0.24

My older sister (Ancestry DNA):

Population
North_Atlantic 31.83
Baltic 9.06
West_Med 19.96
West_Asian 2.60
East_Med 19.54
Red_Sea 2.49
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.64
Amerindian 7.29
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.09
Sub-Saharan 5.45

[Coolguy1]

From 23andme Baltic 15.09

[Luke35]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.91
2 Baltic 31.04
3 West_Med 12.32
4 East_Med 8.99
5 West_Asian 4.7
6 Siberian 2.29
7 Red_Sea 1.68
8 Oceanian 0.07

You get a really high Baltic score for a half Hungarian. I would expect you to be in the mid twenties like me. It is interesting to see how on certain components your results are full Hungarian. My results did not work out that way at all.

[Kelmendasi]

Baltic 20.62

[Kriptc06]

Baltic 11.20

[Pribislav]

Baltic 20.62

You are heavy Slavic influenced for Albanian. :)

[Mingle]

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.87
2 South_Asian 32.08
3 East_Med 8.5
4 North_Atlantic 7.92
5 Baltic 7.79
6 Siberian 2.25
7 East_Asian 0.3
8 Red_Sea 0.26
9 Sub-Saharan 0.04

[Kamal900]

I'm the least Baltic person on here so far, lol

By the way, my Spanish mom (23andme):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.97
2 West_Med 26.18
3 East_Med 21.14
4 Baltic 10.49
5 Red_Sea 2.34
6 Northeast_African 1.61
7 Sub-Saharan 1.22
8 West_Asian 0.79
9 South_Asian 0.24

My older sister (Ancestry DNA):

Population
North_Atlantic 31.83
Baltic 9.06
West_Med 19.96
West_Asian 2.60
East_Med 19.54
Red_Sea 2.49
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.64
Amerindian 7.29
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.09
Sub-Saharan 5.45

I don't have any Baltic ancestry, lol:

Population
North_Atlantic 6.58
Baltic -
West_Med 11.90
West_Asian 22.04
East_Med 38.10
Red_Sea 12.49
South_Asian 2.69
East_Asian 1.20
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.56
Northeast_African 3.87
Sub-Saharan 0.57

[alnortedelsur]

I don't have any Baltic ancestry, lol:

Population
North_Atlantic 6.58
Baltic -
West_Med 11.90
West_Asian 22.04
East_Med 38.10
Red_Sea 12.49
South_Asian 2.69
East_Asian 1.20
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.56
Northeast_African 3.87
Sub-Saharan 0.57

I feel "better" now, lol :lol:

[Kelmendasi]

You are heavy Slavic influenced for Albanian. :)
Not really. The Albanian average is somewhere around 18%. I plot within the Albanian cluster. I may possibly have some Slavic admix, though it certainly isn't "heavy"

[Pribislav]

Not really. The Albanian average is somewhere around 18%. I plot within the Albanian cluster. I may possibly have some Slavic admix, though it certainly isn't "heavy"

18% in Albanians is from Slavs! Albanized Slavs in the middle age, Arnautaši, raping by Slavic invaders...

Do you know for Serbian average, roughly?

[Kelmendasi]

Do you know for Serbian average, roughly?
I saw someone note is down as 27.32%.

[Kelmendasi]

18% in Albanians is from Slavs!
It isn't from Slavs lol, virtually every European group has this "Baltic" input. It's most probable that the majority of it is steppe in origin. It could've increased in percentage because of the Slavs, but you can't say that the majority is from Slavs

[Daugakrit]

Baltic 55.19 Pct

[Pribislav]

....

[Pribislav]

It isn't from Slavs lol, virtually every European group has this "Baltic" input. It's most probable that the majority of it is steppe in origin. It could've increased in percentage because of the Slavs, but you can't say that the majority is from Slavs

Baltic is mostly conected with Slavs.
Albanians score more Baltic than Spaniards because Slavs are/were present in the Balkans and not in Spain.
If Baltic is stepe or IE than Spaniards should score more than Albanians, because Spaniard are more IE, they are +70% R1 and Albanians are much less.

[Impaler]

Baltic 18.76

[Rædwald]

23.69

[Pribislav]

Baltic 18.76

Kelmendasi (Albanian) is more Slavic than you (Romanian)! :1127:

Albanians often claim that Romanians are heavy Slavic influenced and not real paleo-Balkanites. :rotfl:

[Impaler]

Kelmendasi (Albanian) is more Slavic than you (Romanian)! :1127:

Albanians often claim that Romanians are heavy Slavic influenced and not real paleo-Balkanites. :rotfl:

I am a Romanian with high East_Med input. :)

East_Med 24.22

[Pribislav]

I am a Romanian with high East_Med input. :)

East_Med 24.22

Do you have some recent non-Romanian ancestors?

[Moje ime]

Baltic 27.8

[Impaler]

Do you have some recent non-Romanian ancestors?

Yes, some Greek ancestry, before 1900.

[Pribislav]

Yes, some Greek ancestry, before 1900.

That's explains your high East_Med admix.

[Kelmendasi]

Kelmendasi (Albanian) is more Slavic than you (Romanian)! :1127:

Albanians often claim that Romanians are heavy Slavic influenced and not real paleo-Balkanites. :rotfl:
What are you on about? You really think "Baltic" is the best representation of Slavic input? Romanians have far more Slavic input than Albanians this is a fact.

[de Burgh II]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.14
2 Baltic 20.42
3 West_Med 15.82
4 West_Asian 6.38
5 East_Med 3.9
6 Amerindian 1.15
7 South_Asian 1.01
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.12
11 Siberian 0.09

[Pribislav]

What are you on about? You really think "Baltic" is the best representation of Slavic input? Romanians have far more Slavic input than Albanians this is a fact.

Yes on average, not in this cases (you and Impaler).

Baltic is not only "Slavic" component, but it's singificant.

[Kelmendasi]

Baltic is mostly conected with Slavs.
Albanians score more Baltic than Spaniards because Slavs are/were present in the Balkans and not in Spain.
If Baltic is stepe or IE than Spaniards should score more than Albanians, because Spaniard are more IE, they are +70% R1 and Albanians are much less.
It isn't mostly connected to Slavs when it comes to it's spread. It is connected to any group that has input similar to that found in NE Europe, basically every European group, but it peaks in the Baltic states. Baltic can clearly be linked to steppe, you're telling me that the reasons it's so high in Germanic speakers is because of Slavs?

[Kelmendasi]

Yes on average, not in this cases (you and Impaler).

Baltic is not only "Slavic" component, but it's singificant.
When determining Slavic ancestry you don't necessarily look at admixture percentages. You look at similarities shown in segments. By this logic I can assume that Serbs have Albanian or Greek heritage, they score more Balkan or SE Euro than most Slavs, a component which peaks in Albanian and Greeks. Impaler is hardly the average Romanian and has known non-Romanian ancestry.

[Pribislav]

you're telling me that the reasons it's so high in Germanic speakers is because of Slavs?

Eastern Germany and Austria are heavy Slavic influenced.

Eastern/northern Germany and Sweden have significant input from the Balts. Slavs and Balts were related people and genetically similar.

[Pribislav]

When determining Slavic ancestry you don't necessarily look at admixture percentages. You look at similarities shown in segments. By this logic I can assume that Serbs have Albanian or Greek heritage, they score more Balkan or SE Euro than most Slavs, a component which peaks in Albanian and Greeks. Impaler is hardly the average Romanian and has known non-Romanian ancestry.

Balkan influence in Serbs in not from Albanians and Greeks.

[Kelmendasi]

Eastern Germany and Austria are heavy Slavic influenced.

Eastern/northern Germany and Sweden have significant input from the Balts. Slavs and Balts were related people.
Sure, but you can't say that majority of it is from Balto-Slavs. It simply isn't true, Germanic speakers on average don't have much Balto-Slavic. This is like saying that the NW components in Balto-Slavs are mainly from Germanic influence

[Kelmendasi]

Balkan influence in Serbs in not from Albanians and Greeks.
Exactly. I'm using you logic, you seem to be basing what you're saying on frequency and percentage so i'll do the same. Though lets face it, the Balkan input in Serbs isn't only from Vlachs

[Pribislav]

Exactly. I'm using you logic, you seem to be basing what you're saying on frequency and percentage so i'll do the same. Though lets face it, the Balkan input in Serbs isn't only from Vlachs

We mixed in the past mostly with Vlachs. Only some Montenegrins mixed with Albanians. With Greeks never.

Serbian Balkan admix is mostly from Vlachs, and Albanian Baltic admix is mostly from Slavs. Are you satisfied now?

[michal3141]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.96
2 North_Atlantic 26.53
3 West_Med 10.27
4 West_Asian 5.84
5 East_Med 5.15
6 Siberian 2.22
7 South_Asian 1.74
8 Red_Sea 1.68
9 Amerindian 1.06
10 Oceanian 0.39
11 Northeast_African 0.18

[Kelmendasi]

We mixed in the past mostly with Vlachs. Only some Montenegrins mixed with Albanians. With Greeks never.

Serbian Balkan admix is mostly from Vlachs, and Albanian Baltic admix is mostly from Slavs. Are you satisfied now?
What about Serbs from places like Kosovo and the Serbs from northern areas of Macedonia, you really think they didn't mix with Albanians?. Believe what you want I guess.

[Pribislav]

What about Serbs from places like Kosovo and the Serbs from northern areas of Macedonia, you really think they didn't mix with Albanians?. Believe what you want I guess.

Serbs from Macedonia are mostly Macedonians now. Most of them were macedonized after WW2. There is only 36 000 Serbs in Macedonia today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_of_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
Some Serbs from Vojvodina, southern, eastern and central Serbia originated from nothern Macedonia, their ancestors arrived in late 17th and 18th century (Vojvodina), and 18th and 19th century (other regions which I mentioned). Serbs from Mascedonia were and are Orthodox, and Albanians from Macedonia are Muslims. Religion was obstacle for mixing.

In Kosovo also religion was obstacle for mixing. Kosovo Albanians are Muslims, and Serbs are Orthodox of course.
In Kosovo there was a Vlachs in the middle age. There was both branch of Vlachs in Kosovo, Slavic sheperd vlachs (with small v) and Latin speaking Vlachs (with big V). Latin-Vlachic names are recorded in Šar mountain in sources. On the other hand vlach from northern Kosovo had Slavic names, thier katuns are recorded in early 14th century. They were vlachs only by lifestyle and social status.
Kosovo Serbs have influence from Vlachs. Real paleo-Balkanian one.

Near Avala and Rudnik mountains in Šumadija in 1739 some Albanians settled, they arrived as Catholics. They were Kelmendi, but probably there was members of some other Malsor clans among them also. They were assimilated in Serbian vast majority area fast. Today 3-4 people from Rudnik and Avala are tested as R1b-BY611. This is only case that some Albanians became Serbs outside of Montenegro, but they were very few.
I heard for few serbized Kelmendi families from Golija mountain, but I don't know anything about that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golija

[Kaspias]

Kelmendasi (Albanian) is more Slavic than you (Romanian)! :1127:

Albanians often claim that Romanians are heavy Slavic influenced and not real paleo-Balkanites. :rotfl:

Kelmandasi has also more Baltic than me.

[Norka]

1 Baltic 45.94
2 North_Atlantic 22.74
3 Siberian 8.17
4 West_Med 7.82
5 West_Asian 7.56
6 East_Med 4.49
7 East_Asian 0.9
8 Amerindian 0.89
9 Oceanian 0.86
10 Red_Sea 0.4
11 Northeast_African 0.22

[Pribislav]

Kelmandasi has also more Baltic than me.

What is your Baltic score?

[Teutonski]

Population
North_Atlantic 44.53
Baltic 27.93
West_Med 11.62
West_Asian 9.25
East_Med 4.43
Red_Sea 1.04
South_Asian 0.10
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.44
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.66

[Leto]

Baltic 45.85

[FilhoV]

9.21

[Mingle]

Serbs from Macedonia are mostly Macedonians now. Most of them were macedonized after WW2. There is only 36 000 Serbs in Macedonia today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_of_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
Some Serbs from Vojvodina, southern, eastern and central Serbia originated from nothern Macedonia, their ancestors arrived in late 17th and 18th century (Vojvodina), and 18th and 19th century (other regions which I mentioned). Serbs from Mascedonia were and are Orthodox, and Albanians from Macedonia are Muslims. Religion was obstacle for mixing.

Weren't most Serbs from Macedonia "Serbicized Macedonians" to begin with?

[Coastal Elite]

Population
North_Atlantic 40.75
Baltic 19.59
West_Med 15.69
West_Asian 9.31
East_Med 12.18
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.86
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.46
Amerindian 1.06
Oceanian 0.11
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

[GreentheViper]

Population
North_Atlantic 27.34
Baltic 16.83
West_Med 10.83
West_Asian 3.08
East_Med 3.69
Red_Sea 0.88
South_Asian 1.34
East_Asian 1.02
Siberian 1.81
Amerindian 31.27
Oceanian 0.38
Northeast_African 1.26
Sub-Saharan

[Pribislav]

Weren't most Serbs from Macedonia "Serbicized Macedonians" to begin with?

No.
Some Serbs from Macedonia are colonists from various Serbian regions after WW1. Few my cousins settled to Mascedonia after WW1 together with other Dalmatian Serbs. Many Serbs which colonized Macedonia were killed by Bulgarians in WW2.
Still most of Serbs from Macedonia are not colonists but live there since middle age. In northern Macedonia they speak same dialect as Kosovo Serbs, most of them live in northern Macedonia.

In Macedonia exist village Srbinovo, inhabitet by Serbs since middle age https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinovo
Srbinovo came from Srbin which means a Serb.
In Macedonia in the past existed personal name Srbin.
Surname Srbinovski still exist, and people which carry surname Srbinovski are declared Macedonians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinovski
Srbin and Srbinovski is like among Serbs would be name Makedonac and surname Makedonović. There is no such things among Serbs.
Funny Macedonian writer Mladen Srbinovski claim that Macedonians are brainwashed Bulgarians https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Младен_Србиновски he is not Bugarovski, but Srbinovski :rotfl:

[RandomGuy20]

1 Baltic 36.44
2 North_Atlantic 36.04
3 West_Med 12.65
4 East_Med 5.88
5 West_Asian 5.34
6 Siberian 0.97
7 Red_Sea 0.75
8 East_Asian 0.72
9 Sub-Saharan 0.48
10 Oceanian 0.42
11 Amerindian 0.31

[paradox]

Mine 20.80

Father's 23.55


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[Rius]

Baltic 13.76

[Kaspias]

What is your Baltic score?

19.

[Pribislav]

Baltic 20.62

Albanian user Geni score 13,52 Baltic https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=4601082&viewfull=1#post4601082

You are quite more Slavic shifted than Geni, and probably Albanian recorder in Baltic score. :)


Decuis score 30,06 Baltic, he is probably around Serbian average https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=5568002&viewfull=1#post5568002

[Kaspias]

Albanian user Geni score 13,52 Baltic https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=4601082&viewfull=1#post4601082

You are quite more Slavic shifted than Geni, and probably Albanian recorder in Baltic score. :)


Decuis score 30,06 Baltic, he is probably around Serbian average https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=5568002&viewfull=1#post5568002

South Bulgarian average Baltic score is 20. He is Slav as much as South Bulgarians lol.

[Pribislav]

South Bulgarian average Baltic score is 20. He is Slav as much as South Bulgarians lol.

Geni is closer to Albanian average than Kelmendasi without doubt.
Kelmendasi claim score of 18 for Albanian average. This is not true. He wanna be close to Albanian average ("only 2% above"), but in reality he is quite obove Albanian average.

Earlier Kelmendasi said that he probably have some recent south Slavic input.

[Pubiczar]

No.
Some Serbs from Macedonia are colonists from various Serbian regions after WW1. Few my cousins settled to Mascedonia after WW1 together with other Dalmatian Serbs. Many Serbs which colonized Macedonia were killed by Bulgarians in WW2.
Still most of Serbs from Macedonia are not colonists but live there since middle age. In northern Macedonia they speak same dialect as Kosovo Serbs, most of them live in northern Macedonia.

In Macedonia exist village Srbinovo, inhabitet by Serbs since middle age https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinovo
Srbinovo came from Srbin which means a Serb.
In Macedonia in the past existed personal name Srbin.
Surname Srbinovski still exist, and people which carry surname Srbinovski are declared Macedonians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbinovski
Srbin and Srbinovski is like among Serbs would be name Makedonac and surname Makedonović. There is no such things among Serbs.
Funny Macedonian writer Mladen Srbinovski claim that Macedonians are brainwashed Bulgarians https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Младен_Србиновски he is not Bugarovski, but Srbinovski :rotfl:

There is no Bugarovski because most of the surnames date before 20th century and most of the population in Macedonia before 20th century declared as Bulgarian.
That's why you can find surnames like Srbinovski, Grkovski, Arnaudov, Vlahov etc.
That's why there is surname Voulgarakis in Greece or Bugarcic in Serbia
or Bulgarec as a place name in Albania.
In my hometown, as told by the old people and by my grandparents, the cemeteries are split on two parts.
The first part is called Greek cemetery and the second one, Bulgarian!
My ancestors from my grandpa's side are buried in the Bulgarian cemetery while those from my grandma's, in the Greek cemetery.
My hometown was bilingual in the 19th century and 70% of the people were using Greek more than Bulgarian and were pro-Greek while the villages around were pro-Bulgarian and were speaking only Bulgarian.
When the Bulgarians took over from the Ottomans, they forced laws with which was not allowed for the Greek language to be spoken and the Greek leading body of the church was exterminated and the priests and other notable people were killed.
The Greeks were doing the same on the territory which they liberated by the Turks.
Than the Serbs took over and they again didn't allow the Greek and Bulgarian language to be spoken and tried to serbianize the people by teaching Serbian in schools and changing the surname to 'ic'.
Nevertheless, the Serbians couldn't do what they wanted to do because the Bulgarian and Greek consciousness was way stronger.
After the WW2, those people who were identifying as Greeks were taking part in the communist party while those who were identifying as Bulgarians were mainly identifying with the ideals of IMRO!
This, those communist, which ancestors identified as Greeks, were pushing the idea of Macedonia and Macedonians although they were minority when compared to those which ancestors identified as Bulgarians.
Although today, more than a hundred years since the Greek language is no longer spoken, there are still influences from it, mainly words as "I like"/"M' arese", "to overtake/ke ftasum", "I will go/ke kinisum", "potatoes/patati", "cupboard/vitrina", "because/oti", "shoes/papuci" etc.
Most Macedonians of today don't know about this because they are ignorant about their heritage and that's why I am the only one born and raised in the Rep. of Macedonia in these forums.
Crn Volk and Vojnik are first or second generation Australians I think.

The parts who had strong Serbian influence and pro-Serbian people were Skopje and other Northern parts and some parts in the west of the country, thus the surname "Srbinovski" can only be found there.
In the region where I come from it is not existing.
Also in those parts some people are celebrating "Slava" which is Serbian ritual while in other parts of Macedonia, there is no such ritual.

[Kelmendasi]

South Bulgarian average Baltic score is 20. He is Slav as much as South Bulgarians lol.
Nope. You can't base Slavic admix solely on Baltic percent from one calculator. In terms of overall genetics and shared segments Bulgarians in general, even southern ones, are far more Slavic admixed than any Albanian

[Kelmendasi]

Geni is closer to Albanian average than Kelmendasi without doubt.
Kelmendasi claim score of 18 for Albanian average. This is not true. He wanna be close to Albanian average ("only 2% above"), but in reality he is quite obove Albanian average.

Earlier Kelmendasi said that he probably have some recent south Slavic input.
Now you're just lying. This shows the Albanian averages https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?136416-Eurogenes-K13-for-Balkans-amp-Italy&p=2879921&viewfull=1#post2879921, average is 17.69. Albanians from Kosovo and Montenegro score 18.01 and 18.18. Geni is far below average when it comes to Baltic input. I don't think I have recent Slavic input, I may have some but it surely wasn't so recent or heavy. Though I do have ancestry from Albanians of Montenegro, my great grandmother on my fathers side came from Tuzi.

[Kelmendasi]

Albanian user Geni score 13,52 Baltic https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=4601082&viewfull=1#post4601082

You are quite more Slavic shifted than Geni, and probably Albanian recorder in Baltic score. :)


Decuis score 30,06 Baltic, he is probably around Serbian average https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?219153-Eurogenes-K13-PCA&p=5568002&viewfull=1#post5568002
Again you and your linking of Baltic solely to Slavs :rolleyes:. I'm not and "Albanian recorder in Baltic score", there are Albanians from Montenegro and other areas in the north that score 22 and over.

[Vojnik]

Eurogenes K13.

Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
24.01


2
Baltic
22.65


3
East_Med
19.19


4
West_Med
17.24


5
West_Asian
11.73


6
Red_Sea
4.35


7
Amerindian
0.72


8
Sub-Saharan
0.06


9
Northeast_African
0.05


10
South_Asian
0.01


</tbody>

[Ylla]

16.36

[Erronkari]

Probably I score the lowest. :p

Population
North_Atlantic 44.52
Baltic 3.55
West_Med 33.69
West_Asian 3.02
East_Med 8.12
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.82
East_Asian 1.18
Siberian -
Amerindian 3.89
Oceanian 0.63
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.58

[Ayetooey]

Baltic: 25.93

[celticdragongod]

My results:

Baltic 25.58

[LalaLuna]

Population __________ %

• North Atlantic ___48.72
• Baltic __________23.92
• West Med ______13.53
• West Asian ______7.01
• East Med _______2.53
• Red Sea ___________
• South Asian _____2.11
• East Asian ______0.09
• Siberian____________
• Amerindian ______0.42
• Oceanian _______0.39
• Northeast African____
• Sub-Saharan ____1.27

[MercifulServant]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.06
2 North_Atlantic 23.13
3 West_Med 19.04
4 West_Asian 12.54
5 East_Med 10.36
6 Red_Sea 3.4
7 Siberian 0.73
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 Amerindian 0.18

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.06
2 North_Atlantic 23.13
3 West_Med 19.04
4 West_Asian 12.54
5 East_Med 10.36
6 Red_Sea 3.4
7 Siberian 0.73
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 Amerindian 0.18
Serbian average

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.32
2 North_Atlantic 27.10
3 West_Med 15.84
4 East_Med 15.63
5 West_Asian 9.37
6 Red_Sea 2.50
7 Siberian 0.75
8 East_Asian 0.57
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 South_Asian 0.33
11 Northeast_African 0.11
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06
13 Amerindian 0.03

[Pribislav]

Serbian average

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.32
2 North_Atlantic 27.10
3 West_Med 15.84
4 East_Med 15.63
5 West_Asian 9.37
6 Red_Sea 2.50
7 Siberian 0.75
8 East_Asian 0.57
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 South_Asian 0.33
11 Northeast_African 0.11
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06
13 Amerindian 0.03

Where did you get this Serbian average?

It can hardly be Serbian average if Montenegrins and citizens of Serbia are included, and they are included in all Serbian statistics.
Anyway, what is your impression about this "Serbian average"?

[Leto]

Where did you get this Serbian average?

It can hardly be Serbian average if Montenegrins and citizens of Serbia are included, and they are included in all Serbian statistics.
Anyway, what is your impression about this "Serbian average"?
It's from the spreadsheet. I personally like more Baltic ones, like Vlatko Vukovic. I hope you are like that too.

[Tie red]

Population
North_Atlantic 37.49
Baltic 25.87
West_Med 13.93
West_Asian 8.25
East_Med 11.26
Red_Sea 1.04
South_Asian
East_Asian 0.52
Siberian 0.98
Amerindian
Oceanian 0.33
Northeast_African 0.32
Sub-Saharan

[Token]

Mine (Ancestry DNA):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.95
2 West_Med 22.01
3 East_Med 15.7
4 Baltic 8.88
5 Amerindian 6.66
6 Sub-Saharan 5.34
7 West_Asian 4.2
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 1.4
10 Siberian 0.75

You are not 85% European, you are 90% European.

[Leto]

You are not 85% European, you are 90% European.
He is around 86-87% Caucasoid, so he's white.

[Token]

He is around 86-87% Caucasoid, so he's white.

Depends on your definition of white. Where should we draw a line? How much caucasoid is the minimum in order to consider someone white?

[Leto]

Depends on your definition of white. Where should we draw a line? How much caucasoid is the minimum in order to consider someone white?
I'd say 85%. In Latin America that's enough, I guess. Or at least 80%. What is your opinion?

[Token]

I'd say 85%. In Latin America that's enough, I guess. Or at least 80%. What is your opinion?

Yeah, 85% sounds good. But what if someone is 84% or 83% European, should we consider him not white because of a difference of 2 or 3%? I'd say 80% could still be considered white, but only if the non Euro part is substantially Amerindian, 20% SSA would be clearly visible.

[Leto]

Yeah, 85% sounds good. But what if someone is 84% or 83% European, should we consider him not white because of a difference of 2 or 3%? I'd say 80% could still be considered white, but only if the non Euro part is substantially Amerindian, 20% SSA would be clearly visible.
I mostly agree. But even SSA might not be so obvious at 20%. Remember Neymar's son for example. We don't even know how mixed he is, I guess less than 80%.

Multigenerational mixes are generally a different story than individuals with one non-European ancestor down the line.

[alnortedelsur]

Yeah, 85% sounds good. But what if someone is 84% or 83% European, should we consider him not white because of a difference of 2 or 3%? I'd say 80% could still be considered white, but only if the non Euro part is substantially Amerindian, 20% SSA would be clearly visible.

I agree with this.

[Pausanias]

Population

North_Atlantic 26.94
Baltic 15.68
West_Med 24.33
West_Asian 10.51
East_Med 17.64
Red_Sea 1.16
Siberian 1.03
Oceanian 1.01
Northeast_African 1.46
Sub-Saharan 0.2

[CommonSense]

Baltic 28.68

[Leto]

Yeah, 85% sounds good. But what if someone is 84% or 83% European, should we consider him not white because of a difference of 2 or 3%? I'd say 80% could still be considered white, but only if the non Euro part is substantially Amerindian, 20% SSA would be clearly visible.
Just bumped into this kid

https://youtu.be/gRB9dtjZKSU
He's 86.2% European (mostly NW Euro and about 20% Southern), 12.2% Native American and Asian, 0.3% SSA and 1.3% unassigned. He is part Mexican. His haplogroups are also West Eurasian (R1b-Z156 and J1c).

[TheMaestro]

Baltic 26.46

[Chaos One]

Baltic 6.52

[Peterski]

Yeah, 85% sounds good. But what if someone is 84% or 83% European, should we consider him not white because of a difference of 2 or 3%? I'd say 80% could still be considered white, but only if the non Euro part is substantially Amerindian, 20% SSA would be clearly visible.

You talk as if race was just skin-deep and only about physical appearance.

Which it is not. 20% Non-Euro is 20% Non-Euro regardless of phenotype.

[Leto]

You talk as if race was just skin-deep and only about physical appearance.

Which it is not. 20% Non-Euro is 20% Non-Euro regardless of phenotype.
The white race is not exactly a biological concept. It is to a certain degree of course but it's also cultural and social. You don't need to be 100% European on 23andme to look white or to pass as such.

[Chaos One]

The white race is not exactly a biological concept. It is to a certain degree of course but it's also cultural and social. You don't need to be 100% European on 23andme to look white or to pass as such.

I agree totally with you.

Talking about those 80%-90%, my sister is plain white anywhere even having the same genetic amount as me. At same time, I'm not. Those are thin lines, things aren't just a proper DNA Test, specially when most people don't care about it to say if you're white or not.

[Leto]

I agree totally with you.

Talking about those 80%-90%, my sister is plain white anywhere even having the same genetic amount as me. At same time, I'm not. Those are thin lines, things aren't just a proper DNA Test, specially when most people don't care about it to say if you're white or not.
Yes, DNA tests don't tell some minor things which still may be important. I mean genetically Europeans are sometimes more similar than they are phenotypically. For those who didn't grow up in China or Nigeria it's usually obvious that, say, the Irish don't look exactly like Norwegians or Greeks are not exactly identical to Italians just to name a few. Even though they might get similar DNA and oracle results. Seems like some other factors come into play as well.

[Bosniensis]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.79
2 North_Atlantic 25.08
3 West_Med 16.52
4 East_Med 15.28
5 West_Asian 8.98
6 South_Asian 1.98
7 Red_Sea 1.40

[Chaos One]

Yes, DNA tests don't tell some minor things which still may be important. I mean genetically Europeans are sometimes more similar than they are phenotypically. For those who didn't grow up in China or Nigeria it's usually obvious that, say, the Irish don't look exactly like Norwegians or Greeks are not exactly identical to Italians just to name a few. Even though they might get similar DNA and oracle results. Seems like some other factors come into play as well.

Yeah. Likewise when I lived in Japan. While I would have "asian looking" for most users here, the pattern there to be Asian is to really look like a East Asian. Therefore, I was white there, since they would not try to think about specific differences between those groups. I really doubt that a Japanese would differ a White from a Castizo - both are whites on their view.

[Leto]

Yeah. Likewise when I lived in Japan. While I would have "asian looking" for most users here, the pattern there to be Asian is to really look like a East Asian. Therefore, I was white there, since they would not try to think about specific differences between those groups. I really doubt that a Japanese would differ a White from a Castizo - both are whites on their view.
Well, I think you are white if you're over 80% Caucasoid. Argentano posted a study on Brazil and it said self reported whites in Sao Paulo were 80% European on average.

[Token]

I agree totally with you.

Talking about those 80%-90%, my sister is plain white anywhere even having the same genetic amount as me. At same time, I'm not. Those are thin lines, things aren't just a proper DNA Test, specially when most people don't care about it to say if you're white or not.

In my opinion, if someone looks white or quasi-white, acts like a white person, grew up in a white culture and derives more than 80% of his ancestry to Europe, then he can't be anythig other than white.

[Leto]

In my opinion, if someone looks white or quasi-white, acts like a white person, grew up in a white culture and derives more than 80% of his ancestry to Europe, then he can't be anythig other than white.
This kid's children would probably be white with a Ghanaian Y-DNA :lol:

Kevin Prince-Boateng is half Ghanaian, half German, his girlfriend is Italian

https://preview.ibb.co/hZuNrT/30084330_188839868579945_1989501200231301120_n.jpg (https://ibb.co/kGxaBT)
https://preview.ibb.co/bMkTWT/29088882_2349192918440020_6878547977477029888_n.jp g (https://ibb.co/bTTRJ8)
Yes, black and Asian people don't care if you have some white DNA as long as you look and act like them.

[Dragoon]

Baltic ~41
North Atlantic ~29
etc.

[Token]

This kid's children would probably be white with a Ghanaian Y-DNA :lol:

Yes, black and Asian people don't care if you have some white DNA as long as you look and act like them.

Blacks and Asians are much looser than whites. This man, for example, could identify himself as Black anywhere and no one would chew him out, even though he is only half African.

[Leto]

Blacks and Asians are much looser than whites. This man, for example, could identify himself as Black anywhere and no one would chew him out, even though he is only half African.
I guess he does. He plays for Ghana, not Germany.

[Lucas]

49.45

[Koolmets21]

Myself: Baltic 13.86 Pct

Father: Baltic 22.16 Pct

[Ritz06]

Baltic 15.17

[Roy]

Baltic 47.34

It seems it's quite a lot albeit I've seen Poles with more.

[noricum]

North_Atlantic 34.32 Pct
Baltic 34.4 Pct
West_Med 13.16 Pct
West_Asian 3.84 Pct
East_Med 10.83 Pct
Red_Sea 1.42 Pct
South_Asian 1.43 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.39 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African 0.1 Pct
Sub-Saharan

[Kriptc06]

me:
Baltic 11.19

grandparent (not south slav):
Baltic 5.06

[gixajo]

Me.

Baltic 11.68 Pct

My father.

Baltic 10.67 Pct

My mother.

Baltic 11.73 Pct

[Vrazijadivizija]

Baltic 36.25

[oszkar07]

AdmixtureStudio
FTDNA raw data

Components %
North_Atlantic 39.23
Baltic 30.94
West_Med 12.21
West_Asian 4.46
East_Med 9.03
Red_Sea 1.75
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.32
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.06
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00

Gedmatch
FTDNA raw data

Population
North_Atlantic 38.89 Pct
Baltic 31.02 Pct
West_Med 12.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.72 Pct
East_Med 8.97 Pct
Red_Sea 1.7 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.29 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[InfamousAngel99]

North_Atlantic 44.87 Pct
Baltic 25.12 Pct
West_Med 15.91 Pct
West_Asian 6.14 Pct
East_Med 6.11 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.14 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.42 Pct
Northeast_African 0.27 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Kaspias]

I: 20.37
Dad: 13.93
Mom: 28.19

[Scandal]

Baltic ~41
North Atlantic ~29
etc.

Which part of Poland are you from? Can you post rest of your k13 scores? Your baltic and north atlantic is quite similar to mine.