View Full Version : Kazakh/German woman ( Can pass in Germany?)
mutabor
11-19-2018, 01:26 AM
Father Kazakh, mother German ( 36 years)
https://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-34.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-35.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-36.jpg
Peterski
11-19-2018, 01:33 AM
Would probably be considered as Turkish in Germany.
Zroota
11-19-2018, 01:34 AM
Besides the eyebrows, I think she can. If Sandra Bullock is an ethnic German and may presumably pass there, why not her?
In her side pic, her features are 'slopey'. Nordics are more 'straight' featured.
Peterski
11-19-2018, 01:36 AM
If Sandra Bullock is an ethnic German
German-American. Most of them are Germans by identity not by majority of ancestry.
Edit:
According to Ethnicelebs: "Her father, John W. Bullock, was born in Alabama, of English, Irish, German, Swiss, and French ancestry."
Marmara
11-19-2018, 01:41 AM
Would probably be considered as Turkish in Germany.
I doubt that.
Zroota
11-19-2018, 01:41 AM
German-American. Most of them are Germans by identity not by majority of ancestry.
Edit:
According to Ethnicelebs: "Her father, John W. Bullock, was born in Alabama, of English, Irish, German, Swiss, and French ancestry."
This explains why she is a bit dark or Med shifted. I honestly thought that she was full German.
Profileid
11-19-2018, 01:41 AM
No way she's half Kazakh. It would be impossible for her to have light eyes.
Peterski
11-19-2018, 01:44 AM
I doubt that.
Do you mean that she looks more European or less European than Turks?
Marmara
11-19-2018, 01:45 AM
No way she's half Kazakh. It would be impossible for her to have light eyes.
Kazakhs are part Caucasian, they aren't fully Mongoloid.
Central Asians can produce light eyes when when unmixed, due to their Caucasoid asmixture
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ6jrnP2iO3_l1TCony49EO6zrNKTG Ce6ZJ1De5c2DIv2dzNH7a
Wrong
11-19-2018, 01:45 AM
Look Polish for some reason.
Marmara
11-19-2018, 01:46 AM
Do you mean that she looks more European or less European than Turks?
I mean she wouldn't be viewed Turkish in Germany. Turks are known as black heads there, she would be taken for an exotic German most likely.
Or Slav.
Peterski
11-19-2018, 01:47 AM
Look Polish for some reason.
Maybe "Polish_solarówa" but not "Polish_general".
Wrong
11-19-2018, 01:48 AM
Maybe "Polish_Solarówa" but not "Polish_General".
General_Cigar
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/d8/ca/48d8ca0f44a1ac6586f147b456621076.jpg
Yes, as noric+neo danubian, would be atypical though
Profileid
11-19-2018, 01:53 AM
Kazakhs are part Caucasian, they aren't fully Mongoloid.
Central Asians can produce light eyes when when unmixed, due to their Caucasoid asmixture
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ6jrnP2iO3_l1TCony49EO6zrNKTG Ce6ZJ1De5c2DIv2dzNH7a
African Americans are 15% caucasoid on average. I've seen ONE black person with light eyes in my entire life.
An ethnic Kazakh with light eyes would be extremely rare.
Peterski
11-19-2018, 01:54 AM
This singer is half Polish half Gypsy, looks a bit similar:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edyta_Górniak
Wrong
11-19-2018, 01:55 AM
African Americans are 15% caucasoid on average. I've seen ONE black person with light eyes in my entire life.
An ethnic Kazakh with light eyes would be extremely rare.
You seen 3 now... and Rihanna!
http://4u2ce.com/fitness/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/maxresdefault-5-1024x576.jpg
Profileid
11-19-2018, 01:59 AM
You seen 3 now... and Rihanna!
http://4u2ce.com/fitness/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/maxresdefault-5-1024x576.jpg
theyre mixed
Marmara
11-19-2018, 02:00 AM
African Americans are 15% caucasoid on average. I've seen ONE black person with light eyes in my entire life.
An ethnic Kazakh with light eyes would be extremely rare.
Kazakhs have higher Caucasoid than that, but yes it would still be very rare.
Still, it means it's not impossible for German Kazakh mix to have blue eyes
Peterski
11-19-2018, 02:00 AM
She actually looks a bit like "female Borat", lol.
arkas
11-19-2018, 02:05 AM
Not sure if she can pass in Germany but she kind of looks Baltid, like a Fenno Nordid.
mutabor
11-19-2018, 02:10 AM
No way she's half Kazakh. It would be impossible for her to have light eyes.
Her Kazakh father is probably more mixed than average. Like half Caucasoid actually. There was a Kazakh girl who provided her DNA results and she scored around 50% Caucasoid including 30% East European. I told her that her grandparent should be Russian. She said that there were no mixes in her lineage and that she is fully Kazakh.
mutabor
11-19-2018, 02:17 AM
Father Kazakh, mother Polish
https://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-28.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-29.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-30.jpg
Profileid
11-19-2018, 02:21 AM
Her Kazakh father is probably more mixed than average. Like half Caucasoid actually. There was a Kazakh girl who provided her DNA results and she scored around 50% Caucasoid including 30% East European. I told her that her grandparent should be Russian. She said that there were no mixes in her lineage and that she is fully Kazakh.
she doesn't know her lineage then
mutabor
11-19-2018, 02:23 AM
she doesn't know her lineage then
Northern Mongoloids can pick light features easier. 50% Caucasoid is enough to get light eyes and light hair. I can prove by DNA results.
Profileid
11-19-2018, 02:25 AM
Northern Mongoloids can pick light features easier. 50% Caucasoid is enough to get light eyes and light hair. I can prove by DNA results.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Any Kazakh with light eyes no doubt has recent Euro ancestry.
mutabor
11-19-2018, 02:30 AM
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Any Kazakh with light eyes no doubt has recent Euro ancestry.
You previously said that this woman can't have light eyes because she is half Kazakh.
Profileid
11-19-2018, 04:41 AM
You previously said that this woman can't have light eyes because she is half Kazakh.
because's she's not half Kazakh. She must have Euro on both sides. no other way she would have light eyes
Zroota
11-19-2018, 08:41 AM
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Any Kazakh with light eyes no doubt has recent Euro ancestry.
What about the Caucasoid central Asians ("Indo Nordics") with blue/green eyes and light hair, do they have recent Euro ancestry as well? Or only Mongoloids with such eyes must be partially European?
Marmara
11-19-2018, 08:48 AM
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Any Kazakh with light eyes no doubt has recent Euro ancestry.
Not recent, apparently you don't know the genetics of Central Asia.
Kazakhstan was inhabited by light pigmented people before Turkic expansion, the light caucasoid admixture comes from ancient mixture not recent.
Gangrel
11-19-2018, 09:13 AM
Scythian
African Americans are 15% caucasoid on average. I've seen ONE black person with light eyes in my entire life.
An ethnic Kazakh with light eyes would be extremely rare.
it's actually not that rare :) there are many Kazakhs with light eyes and light hair
Blondie
11-19-2018, 09:46 AM
Kazakhs have higher Caucasoid than that, but yes it would still be very rare.
Still, it means it's not impossible for German Kazakh mix to have blue eyes
Kazakhs are approximately 70% Mongoloid and 30% Caucasoid and this admixture explains why some Kazakhs have light European physical features in contrast to the majority who have black hair, brown eyes, and epicanthic eyefolds.
Profileid
11-19-2018, 11:43 AM
What about the Caucasoid central Asians ("Indo Nordics") with blue/green eyes and light hair, do they have recent Euro ancestry as well? Or only Mongoloids with such eyes must be partially European?
Dont caren im talking about kazakhs,
Not recent, apparently you don't know the genetics of Central Asia.
Kazakhstan was inhabited by light pigmented people before Turkic expansion, the light caucasoid admixture comes from ancient mixture not recent.
Every eye color map ive seen of Kazakhstan shows a light eye incidence or less than 5% even with russians there.
You need to show me some actual proof of what youre saying because ir sounds like typical anthroforum bullshit
Profileid
11-19-2018, 11:45 AM
it's actually not that rare :) there are many Kazakhs with light eyes and light hair
I would be interested in seeing that. They are most likely mixed if so
FilhoV
11-19-2018, 12:01 PM
Father Kazakh, mother Polish
https://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-28.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-29.jpghttps://static.365info.kz/uploads/2015/01/05-30.jpg
Interesting look and very nice phenotype
Wonder where he would cluster
mutabor
11-19-2018, 12:05 PM
MyHeritage results of a Kazakh girl
"My results were 53% Central Asian, 19 % Baltic, 5% Finnish, 4% scandinavian, 9 % Chinese and Vietnamese, 5% Eskimo, 1.2% Central American"
Finnish DNA on MyHeritage is not totally European. It contains mongoloid component that is why all Mongols also score Finnish.
Central Asian DNA on MyHeritage is approximately 50/50 mix of Caucasoid and Mongoloid. There is significant dark pigmented West Asian component in Central Asian DNA.
Hence this girl has only around 19% Baltic + 4% Scandinavian + approximately additional 10% East Euro ( which is contained in Central Asia component) = 33% Euro. She is around 45% Mongoloid and around 10-15% West Asian.
Here is her picture
https://scontent.fala4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/531995_503154383065984_566687707_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fala4-1.fna&oh=5c923b35e0470c0fb0623f11d44f00eb&oe=5C7453B3https://scontent.fala4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/388076_406243209423769_2103274188_n.jpg?_nc_cat=10 4&_nc_ht=scontent.fala4-2.fna&oh=6868a2e13d0d8b86f99f5d9d76a8f181&oe=5C7495A8
FilhoV
11-19-2018, 12:12 PM
MyHeritage results of a Kazakh girl
"My results were 53% Central Asian, 19 % Baltic, 5% Finnish, 4% scandinavian, 9 % Chinese and Vietnamese, 5% Eskimo, 1.2% Central American"
Finnish DNA on MyHeritage is not totally European. It contains mongoloid component that is why all Mongols also score Finnish.
Central Asian DNA on MyHeritage is approximately 50/50 mix of Caucasoid and Mongoloid. There is significant dark pigmented West Asian component in Central Asian DNA.
Hence this girl has only around 19% Baltic + 4% Scandinavian + approximately additional 10% East Euro ( which is contained in Central Asia component) = 33% Euro. She is around 45% Mongoloid and around 10-15% West Asian.
Here is her picture
https://scontent.fala4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/531995_503154383065984_566687707_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fala4-1.fna&oh=5c923b35e0470c0fb0623f11d44f00eb&oe=5C7453B3https://scontent.fala4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/388076_406243209423769_2103274188_n.jpg?_nc_cat=10 4&_nc_ht=scontent.fala4-2.fna&oh=6868a2e13d0d8b86f99f5d9d76a8f181&oe=5C7495A8
Long live the glorious people of Kazakhstan!!!!
I would be interested in seeing that. They are most likely mixed if so
they aren't mixed or any kind of recent mix..central asians can have blond hair and light eyes. even if many central asians look fully asian, genetically they are not.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/38/3e/df383e9fbb31dceb87cb2cba92a51141.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/c8/5a/0b/c85a0bb6f3dde31550ec7b170894e4c9--natural-blondes-brown-eyes.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyhvydVN4U1rorrqno1_400.jpghttp://s10.hubnews.co.kr/upload/_quick/2018/06/14/d7ad691afa8987a_15289597603998792283.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT68UU-WsAEmYKc.jpg
and best example..my friend..fully kazakh..dark blue eyes (not sure if visible enough) and light brown/dark blond hair:
https://i.imgur.com/wWnR8kO.jpg
aherne
11-19-2018, 07:06 PM
Scythian
Could have passed: East Nordid + Turanid were common mixes in later times!
Tie red
11-19-2018, 07:46 PM
I would never noticed she would be mixed. I would have guessed Russian, or anywhere else in eastern Europe.
Hungarian_master
10-10-2020, 08:51 AM
She could pass as Hungarian.
Will be considered Eastern European
Chris596
10-10-2020, 10:12 AM
Now she has the typical Slavomongol look.
Immanenz
10-10-2020, 10:29 AM
Cant pass as German and cannot pass Polish either, but yeah propanly in Hungary because she looks Pamirid
princeton90
10-10-2020, 01:04 PM
If I saw her in Germany, I would guess her as a light pigmented Turk rather than native German. Classification: Pamirid
Bender1999
10-10-2020, 01:10 PM
Is her father an ethnic Kazakh? The Germans from there describe themselves sometimes as Kazakh, she looks like a Russlanddeutsche with tons of makeup.
chociprasa
10-10-2020, 01:39 PM
I don't know, but she could pass in Finland and northern Sweden.
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