View Full Version : Autosomal Results: N.Portuguese (Vila Real)
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 03:09 PM
Continuing the trend of posting autosomal results with photos here is another
This gentleman is Portuguese from the region of Vila Real in the Northern part of the country
Below a Map of Portugal with the region in red
https://i.imgur.com/WZAMyHF.png
Below his photos also with a black and white photo of his father
https://imgur.com/a/r2Xya0z
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.83
2 West_Med 22.53
3 East_Med 12.75
4 Baltic 12.3
5 Red_Sea 4.56
6 West_Asian 1.77
7 East_Asian 1.76
8 Northeast_African 1.39
9 Sub-Saharan 1.15
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 South_Asian 0.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.88
2 Portuguese 4.01
3 Spanish_Galicia 4.37
4 Spanish_Cataluna 4.59
5 Spanish_Murcia 5
6 Spanish_Extremadura 5.66
7 Spanish_Valencia 6.41
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.57
9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.16
10 French 7.22
11 Spanish_Andalucia 8.01
12 Spanish_Aragon 8.53
13 Southwest_French 9.07
14 North_Italian 11.57
15 South_Dutch 13.25
16 West_German 13.55
17 Tuscan 17.06
18 Southeast_English 17.26
19 Southwest_English 17.67
20 Austrian 18.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% Spanish_Murcia + 10% La_Brana-1 @ 2.59
2 93% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 7% La_Brana-1 @ 2.6
3 87.2% Portuguese + 12.8% West_Scottish @ 2.7
4 85.7% Portuguese + 14.3% Southwest_English @ 2.75
5 86.9% Spanish_Murcia + 13.1% North_Swedish @ 2.76
6 87.5% Portuguese + 12.5% Irish @ 2.77
7 87% Portuguese + 13% Orcadian @ 2.78
8 85.3% Spanish_Murcia + 14.7% Swedish @ 2.78
9 85.5% Portuguese + 14.5% Southeast_English @ 2.79
10 87.7% Portuguese + 12.3% North_Dutch @ 2.79
11 71.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 28.8% French @ 2.8
12 87.9% Portuguese + 12.1% Danish @ 2.8
13 89% Portuguese + 11% Norwegian @ 2.82
14 83.2% Spanish_Murcia + 16.8% North_German @ 2.82
15 61.8% Spanish_Murcia + 38.2% French @ 2.85
16 83.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 16.5% West_German @ 2.88
17 88.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 11.3% North_German @ 2.9
18 83.6% Spanish_Murcia + 16.4% Danish @ 2.91
19 83.5% Spanish_Murcia + 16.5% North_Dutch @ 2.9
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.62
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.28
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.36
East_Med 2.51
Eastern_Euro 2.85
Fennoscandian 2.38
French 3.47
Iberian 28.84
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.75
Malayan 1.05
Near_Eastern 1.52
North_African 7.50
North_Atlantic 9.50
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 12.66
Northeast_African 0.43
Oceanian 0.24
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.66
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 4.38
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 34.06
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.99
3 Caucasian 20.3
4 North_African 8.6
5 Near_East 4.63
6 South_Central_Asian 3.6
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.51
8 Australoid 1.27
9 South_East_Asian 1.03
10 East_African 0.6
11 Subsaharian 0.21
12 Archaic_Human 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portugese ( ) 5.47
2 French ( ) 7.9
3 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 9.34
4 Welsh ( ) 9.76
5 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 9.82
6 North_European ( ) 10.12
7 CEU ( ) 10.24
8 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 10.27
9 English ( ) 10.29
10 British ( ) 10.56
11 Spaniard ( ) 10.81
12 Belgian ( ) 10.95
13 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 11.09
14 Irish ( ) 11.87
15 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 11.89
16 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 12.02
17 Frisian ( ) 12.13
18 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 12.62
19 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 12.63
20 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 12.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.5% Portugese ( ) + 11.5% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.18
2 87% Portugese ( ) + 13% Russian_South ( ) @ 2.24
3 88.2% Portugese ( ) + 11.8% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.25
4 86.9% Portugese ( ) + 13.1% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 2.25
5 87.4% Portugese ( ) + 12.6% Ukrainian ( ) @ 2.25
6 88.2% Portugese ( ) + 11.8% Mordovian ( ) @ 2.25
7 87% Portugese ( ) + 13% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 2.26
8 88% Portugese ( ) + 12% Belarusian ( ) @ 2.27
9 86.5% Portugese ( ) + 13.5% Russian_North ( ) @ 2.27
10 86.5% Portugese ( ) + 13.5% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 2.27
11 87.8% Portugese ( ) + 12.2% Pole ( ) @ 2.28
12 86.6% Portugese ( ) + 13.4% Russian-West ( ) @ 2.29
13 85.9% Portugese ( ) + 14.1% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 2.29
14 87.6% Portugese ( ) + 12.4% Don_cossack ( ) @ 2.3
15 88.5% Portugese ( ) + 11.5% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 2.3
16 88.5% Portugese ( ) + 11.5% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 2.3
17 87.2% Portugese ( ) + 12.8% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 2.3
18 84.5% Portugese ( ) + 15.5% Slovak ( ) @ 2.31
19 88% Portugese ( ) + 12% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.31
20 87.7% Portugese ( ) + 12.3% Belarusian
puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle results:
puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 40.51
2 European_HG 32.39
3 Caucasus_HG 14.73
4 Near_East 8.94
5 Oceanian 1.22
6 Sub-Saharan 0.86
7 South_Asian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.26
9 East_Asian 0.25
10 South_African_HG 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.64
2 French 8.24
3 Romanian 8.3
4 Italian_Bergamo 8.84
5 Spanish_Northeast 9.29
6 Spanish_Canaries 10.79
7 Belgian 10.87
8 Bulgarian 11.56
9 Croatian 12.23
10 German_South 12.62
11 Albanian 12.63
12 Utahn_European 12.83
13 Tuscan 12.97
14 Greek 13.73
15 Dutch_South 13.86
16 English_South 14.76
17 Hungarian 14.82
18 French_South 15.47
19 Irish 16.13
20 Czech 17.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.2% French + 10.8% Saudi @ 2.65
2 56.6% Spanish_Southwest + 43.4% Romanian @ 2.91
3 66.7% Spanish_Southwest + 33.3% Croatian @ 2.99
4 85.4% French + 14.6% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.02
5 92.7% French + 7.3% BedouinB @ 3.18
6 65.8% Spanish_Southwest + 34.2% Bulgarian @ 3.31
7 85.7% French + 14.3% Yemeni @ 3.43
8 57.5% Romanian + 42.5% Spanish_Canaries @ 3.46
9 86% French + 14% Saharawi @ 3.52
10 82.7% Spanish_Southwest + 17.3% Mordovian @ 3.54
11 83.9% French + 16.1% Egyptian @ 3.58
12 72.1% Spanish_Southwest + 27.9% Hungarian @ 3.62
13 84.1% French + 15.9% Tunisian @ 3.71
14 83.5% French + 16.5% Algerian @ 3.79
15 85% Spanish_Southwest + 15% Russian @ 3.85
16 83.4% French + 16.6% BedouinA @ 3.85
17 88.7% Spanish_Southwest + 11.3% Tajik_Pomiri @ 3.95
18 84.8% French + 15.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.97
19 76.6% Spanish_Southwest + 23.4% Czech @ 4.03
20 79.3% French + 20.7% Libyan_Jew
Interesting, especially this (hypothetically 1/8 NW European)
3 87.2% Portuguese + 12.8% West_Scottish @ 2.7
4 85.7% Portuguese + 14.3% Southwest_English @ 2.75
6 87.5% Portuguese + 12.5% Irish @ 2.77
7 87% Portuguese + 13% Orcadian @ 2.78
9 85.5% Portuguese + 14.5% Southeast_English @ 2.79
10 87.7% Portuguese + 12.3% North_Dutch @ 2.79
Add Dodecad too please.
Lucas
11-26-2018, 05:11 PM
Interesting, especially this (hypothetically 1/8 NW European)
Add Dodecad too please.
Rather northern shifted Portugese which makes perfect sense.
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:18 PM
Filho do you know from where in Vila Real specifically that gentleman is?
São Lourenço de Ribapinhão
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:24 PM
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 40.35
2 North_European 26.62
3 Caucasus 11.75
4 Northwest_African 7.42
5 Gedrosia 6.25
6 Southwest_Asian 5.83
7 Southeast_Asian 1.03
8 East_African 0.41
9 South_Asian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese (Dodecad) 8.18
2 Galicia (1000Genomes) 8.45
3 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 8.83
4 Baleares (1000Genomes) 10.28
5 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 11.26
6 Canarias (1000Genomes) 11.51
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 11.71
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.88
9 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 12.47
10 Spanish (Dodecad) 12.58
11 French (Dodecad) 12.75
12 French (HGDP) 12.81
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 13.04
14 Spaniards (Behar) 13.17
15 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 14.31
16 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 14.77
17 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 14.86
18 Valencia (1000Genomes) 15.69
19 Aragon (1000Genomes) 16.3
20 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 30.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.43
2 86% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 14% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 76.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 23.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.66
4 84.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 15.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.69
5 77.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 22.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.7
6 77.1% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 22.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.77
7 86.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 13.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.86
8 67.2% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 32.8% German (Dodecad) @ 3.89
9 85.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 14.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.97
10 86.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 13.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.01
11 79% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.07
12 77.3% French (HGDP) + 22.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 4.09
13 77.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 22.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.09
14 79.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 20.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.13
15 86.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 13.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.15
16 78.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.2
17 80.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 19.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.25
18 80.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 19.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.28
19 80.8% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 19.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.29
20 85.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes)
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:25 PM
Thanks, so right next to Vila Real. Don't you have any result from up North, Chaves?
I might have one I’ll check my notepad
Vasconcelos
11-26-2018, 05:26 PM
Is this the guy whose K15 is similar to mine? Compared to my results the other one seems to have an excess of Baltic whereas I have West Med, the rest is virtually the same, but this K13 is a bit more divergent from mine
K13
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.47
2 West_Med 28.5
3 East_Med 12.03
4 Baltic 9.61
5 Red_Sea 4.45
6 Northeast_African 2.61
7 Sub-Saharan 1.13
8 West_Asian 1.02
9 Siberian 0.58
10 East_Asian 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 3.1
2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.27
3 Spanish_Extremadura 3.63
4 Spanish_Galicia 3.85
5 Spanish_Murcia 3.9
6 Portuguese 4.32
7 Spanish_Cantabria 4.38
8 Spanish_Andalucia 4.42
9 Spanish_Valencia 5.01
10 Spanish_Aragon 5.32
11 Spanish_Cataluna 5.63
12 Southwest_French 6.82
13 North_Italian 11.63
14 French 12.18
15 French_Basque 16.32
16 Tuscan 17.35
17 South_Dutch 18.14
18 West_German 18.62
19 Southwest_English 21.94
20 Southeast_English 21.96
Token
11-26-2018, 05:28 PM
Strongly northern shifted.
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:33 PM
This is the only Chaves, Trás-os-Montes kit I have her whole family has been in Chaves forever
Her photos
https://imgur.com/a/nUQXphG
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 42.76
2 North_European 26.36
3 Caucasus 12.32
4 Gedrosia 6.04
5 Northwest_African 5.79
6 Southwest_Asian 4.08
7 South_Asian 1.38
8 East_African 1.11
9 Sub_Saharan 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Galicia (1000Genomes) 6.19
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 6.69
3 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 6.73
4 Baleares (1000Genomes) 7.78
5 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 9.04
6 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 9.94
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 9.97
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 10.37
9 Spaniards (Behar) 10.62
10 Canarias (1000Genomes) 10.78
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 10.92
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 11.63
13 French (HGDP) 11.69
14 French (Dodecad) 11.82
15 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 12.07
16 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 12.31
17 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 12.5
18 Valencia (1000Genomes) 13.12
19 Aragon (1000Genomes) 13.84
20 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 13.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.06
2 80.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 19.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.14
3 88.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 11.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.23
4 88% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 12% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.26
5 80.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 19.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.3
6 79.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 20.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.37
7 87.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 12.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.38
8 88% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 12% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
9 88.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 11.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.52
10 88.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 11.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.57
11 79.9% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 20.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.67
12 80.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 19.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.68
13 86.7% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 13.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.68
14 87.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 12.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.7
15 80.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 19.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.78
16 89.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 10.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.78
17 82.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 17.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.86
18 88.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.89
19 88.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.89
20 89.4%
Vasconcelos
11-26-2018, 05:40 PM
Thanks for sharing FilhoV, the lady from Chaves has a very standard results in the Eurogenes calcs
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.67
2 West_Med 26.43
3 East_Med 13.92
4 Baltic 11.24
5 West_Asian 2.45
6 Sub-Saharan 2.12
7 Red_Sea 1.99
8 Oceanian 1.17
9 Amerindian 0.84
10 South_Asian 0.79
11 Northeast_African 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.8
2 Spanish_Valencia 3.08
3 Spanish_Extremadura 3.29
4 Spanish_Cataluna 3.45
5 Spanish_Murcia 3.58
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.82
7 Spanish_Galicia 3.89
8 Spanish_Andalucia 4.59
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.61
10 Spanish_Cantabria 5.32
11 Spanish_Aragon 6.88
12 Southwest_French 7.54
13 North_Italian 9.19
14 French 10.16
15 Tuscan 15.21
16 South_Dutch 16.24
17 West_German 16.31
18 French_Basque 18.43
19 Southeast_English 20.37
20 Southwest_English 20.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.6% Spanish_Valencia + 2.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 1.99
2 97.6% Spanish_Valencia + 2.4% Luhya @ 1.99
3 97.7% Spanish_Valencia + 2.3% Biaka_Pygmy @ 1.99
4 97.8% Spanish_Valencia + 2.2% Bantu_S.E. @ 2
5 97.8% Spanish_Valencia + 2.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 2
6 97.9% Spanish_Valencia + 2.1% Mandenka @ 2
7 98% Spanish_Valencia + 2% Yoruban @ 2.03
8 97.6% Spanish_Valencia + 2.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.05
9 92.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.06
10 97.5% Spanish_Valencia + 2.5% San @ 2.1
11 92.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.1% Tunisian @ 2.1
12 54.9% Portuguese + 45.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.11
13 92.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.2% Algerian @ 2.15
14 93.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 6.9% Moroccan @ 2.21
15 96.7% Spanish_Valencia + 3.3% MA-1 @ 2.33
16 97.5% Spanish_Valencia + 2.5% Sandawe @ 2.33
17 97.6% Spanish_Valencia + 2.4% Maasai @ 2.4
18 97.9% Spanish_Valencia + 2.1% Sudanese @ 2.41
19 61.5% Spanish_Valencia + 38.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.42
20 93.3% Spanish_Valencia + 6.7% Moldavian @ 2.42
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.08
2 North_Sea 22.28
3 West_Med 21.76
4 East_Med 11.76
5 Baltic 6.44
6 Eastern_Euro 2.66
7 Red_Sea 2.42
8 Sub-Saharan 2.13
9 West_Asian 1.25
10 Oceanian 1.03
11 Amerindian 0.49
12 Northeast_African 0.38
13 South_Asian 0.33
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 3.52
2 Spanish_Cataluna 4.27
3 Spanish_Murcia 4.61
4 Spanish_Extremadura 4.62
5 Spanish_Galicia 4.64
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.78
7 Spanish_Valencia 6.93
8 Spanish_Cantabria 7.21
9 Spanish_Andalucia 7.73
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.76
11 North_Italian 8.6
12 Spanish_Aragon 8.7
13 Southwest_French 9.33
14 French 10.24
15 Tuscan 14.54
16 South_Dutch 15.07
17 West_German 16.88
18 Southwest_English 18.15
19 Serbian 18.4
20 French_Basque 18.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99% Portuguese + 1% Yoruban @ 3.31
2 99% Portuguese + 1% Mandenka @ 3.34
3 70.6% Portuguese + 29.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.34
4 99.1% Portuguese + 0.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 3.37
5 99.1% Portuguese + 0.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 3.38
6 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Algerian @ 3.39
7 99.2% Portuguese + 0.8% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.42
8 88.9% Portuguese + 11.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.44
9 50.3% Spanish_Murcia + 49.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.44
10 81.4% Portuguese + 18.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.45
11 99.3% Portuguese + 0.7% Luhya @ 3.45
12 99.3% Portuguese + 0.7% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.46
13 99.5% Portuguese + 0.5% Papuan @ 3.47
14 99.5% Portuguese + 0.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.48
15 92.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.49
16 99.5% Portuguese + 0.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.49
17 95.6% Portuguese + 4.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.5
18 93% Spanish_Cataluna + 7% Tunisian @ 3.5
19 91.3% Portuguese + 8.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.5
20 99.1% Portuguese + 0.9% Sardinian @ 3.51
Most of these seem to be mostly due to personal variation more so than regional. It's really hard to pick up any noticable trend
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:43 PM
You guys are welcome
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:49 PM
It’s interesting to see their results but unfortunately Northern Portuguese need to test more especially the ones in small isolated villages I am also hoping some people in Belmonte also test
This is my K13 from FTDNA for comparison all three are overwhelmingly similar minus the genetic drift those 2 North and I going east
I have many Azorean kits in my possession
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.9
2 West_Med 26.86
3 East_Med 15.65
4 Baltic 9.37
5 Red_Sea 3.36
6 West_Asian 2.73
7 Sub-Saharan 2.04
8 Northeast_African 1.87
9 Amerindian 0.78
10 Oceanian 0.45
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 2.64
2 Portuguese 3.42
3 Spanish_Murcia 3.66
4 Spanish_Andalucia 4.22
5 Spanish_Valencia 4.74
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.83
7 Spanish_Galicia 4.95
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.32
9 Spanish_Cataluna 5.96
10 Spanish_Cantabria 7.29
11 North_Italian 7.83
12 Spanish_Aragon 8
13 Southwest_French 9.75
14 French 12.44
15 Tuscan 13.22
16 West_German 18.57
17 South_Dutch 18.62
18 West_Sicilian 19.54
19 French_Basque 19.94
20 Italian_Abruzzo 20.56
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Spanish_Valencia + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.5
2 88% Spanish_Valencia + 12% Moroccan @ 1.52
3 87.7% Spanish_Valencia + 12.3% Algerian @ 1.54
4 88.1% Spanish_Valencia + 11.9% Tunisian @ 1.69
5 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% Tunisian @ 1.88
6 82.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 17.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.9
7 94.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
8 82.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 17.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.94
9 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% Algerian @ 1.95
10 94.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.97
11 94.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.98
12 91.3% Spanish_Murcia + 8.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 2
13 85.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.6% Moroccan @ 2
14 91.5% Spanish_Murcia + 8.5% Tunisian @ 2
15 85.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.02
16 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.03
17 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.04
18 86.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 13.8% Egyptian @ 2.05
19 94.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.05
20 92.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 7.8% West_Sicilian
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 05:54 PM
This is my 1st Cousin
Family from Ribeira Grande, Azores
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.76
2 West_Med 20.71
3 East_Med 14.12
4 Baltic 11.89
5 Red_Sea 5.15
6 Sub-Saharan 1.78
7 Northeast_African 1.77
8 West_Asian 1.43
9 Oceanian 0.7
10 East_Asian 0.3
11 Amerindian 0.25
12 South_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 5.39
2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.52
3 Spanish_Murcia 6.25
4 Spanish_Cataluna 6.29
5 Spanish_Galicia 6.34
6 Spanish_Extremadura 6.99
7 French 7.67
8 Spanish_Valencia 7.79
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.18
10 Spanish_Cantabria 8.99
11 Spanish_Andalucia 9.47
12 Spanish_Aragon 9.86
13 Southwest_French 11.03
14 North_Italian 12.42
15 South_Dutch 13.39
16 West_German 13.57
17 Southeast_English 17.12
18 Tuscan 17.27
19 Southwest_English 17.67
20 Austrian 19.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Portuguese + 14.7% West_Scottish @ 4.18
2 83.3% Portuguese + 16.7% Southeast_English @ 4.24
3 85.9% Portuguese + 14.1% North_Dutch @ 4.25
4 86% Portuguese + 14% Danish @ 4.25
5 85.9% Portuguese + 14.1% Irish @ 4.29
6 85.4% Portuguese + 14.6% Orcadian @ 4.29
7 81.5% Spanish_Murcia + 18.5% North_German @ 4.3
8 84.1% Portuguese + 15.9% Southwest_English @ 4.31
9 87.5% Portuguese + 12.5% Norwegian @ 4.31
10 81.9% Spanish_Murcia + 18.1% Danish @ 4.33
11 81.7% Spanish_Murcia + 18.3% North_Dutch @ 4.33
12 84.2% Spanish_Murcia + 15.8% Swedish @ 4.37
13 86.4% Portuguese + 13.6% North_German @ 4.39
14 58.6% Spanish_Murcia + 41.4% French @ 4.39
15 83.7% Spanish_Murcia + 16.3% Norwegian @ 4.41
16 67.1% Portuguese + 32.9% French @ 4.42
17 88.7% Portuguese + 11.3% Swedish @ 4.45
18 74.5% Spanish_Murcia + 25.5% West_German @ 4.45
19 86.3% Spanish_Murcia + 13.7% North_Swedish @ 4.4
Rgvgjhvv
11-26-2018, 05:57 PM
Cool. I would have never guessed him to be Portuguese from his picture
Vasconcelos
11-26-2018, 05:59 PM
Well you have divergent results despite being not only closely related but also - I assume - with similar regional backgrounds. It just reinforces how we can't make too many assumpions when it comes to our own regional differences
Cool. I would have never guessed him to be Portuguese from his picture
He's just light pigmented, I've seen more foreign-looking faces
happycow
11-26-2018, 06:01 PM
Very interesting results thank you for sharing
Damião de Góis
11-26-2018, 08:27 PM
Interesting, especially this (hypothetically 1/8 NW European)
Add Dodecad too please.
More interesting than that is him getting La Braña in his Oracle, which i think is a bit unusual.
Rgvgjhvv
11-26-2018, 08:33 PM
He's just light pigmented, I've seen more foreign-looking faces
His side profile does remind me of Mourinho
FilhoV
11-26-2018, 09:20 PM
Definitely the most Northern Shifted PT kit I have in my possession
Vasconcelos
11-26-2018, 09:31 PM
His side profile does remind me of Mourinho
Well spotted, I agree
More interesting than that is him getting La Braña in his Oracle, which i think is a bit unusual.
Oracle references might not be the best though, at least when the result seems bizarre such as here
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-26-2018, 09:34 PM
Definitely the most Northern Shifted PT kit I have in my possession
Where does he plot on K15 PCA? I have posted before a guy from Aveiro that was plotting between Aragon and SouthWest France.
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + North_German + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 2.397077
2 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Sardinian @ 2.447524
3 French_Basque + North_German + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 2.462009
4 Danish + French_Basque + North_German + Sardinian @ 2.481132
5 French_Basque + North_German + Sardinian + Southwest_English @ 2.504171
6 French_Basque + North_Dutch + North_German + Sardinian @ 2.505722
7 Danish + French_Basque + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 2.609237
8 French_Basque + North_German + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 2.614468
9 Danish + French_Basque + Sardinian + South_Dutch @ 2.620665
10 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Sardinian + South_Dutch @ 2.632265
11 Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + West_German @ 2.633900
12 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Sardinian @ 2.671020
13 Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria + West_German @ 2.671376
14 South_Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.680933
15 Danish + French_Basque + Sardinian + Southwest_English @ 2.683311
16 French_Basque + Sardinian + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 2.684653
17 South_Dutch + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.685293
18 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 2.700961
19 French_Basque + North_German + North_German + Sardinian @ 2.718102
20 French_Basque + Irish + Sardinian + South_Dutch @ 2.737756
Vasconcelos
11-26-2018, 10:10 PM
It might be a good idea to link his K13 and K15 results to ph2ter and have him plotted on his PCAs. Regradless we should be wary some individuals might have unknown not-distant foreign ancestry. For instance my best friend barely has any records of his maternal ancestors but he's 1/8 German
FilhoV
11-27-2018, 11:55 AM
puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle results:
puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 40.51
2 European_HG 32.39
3 Caucasus_HG 14.73
4 Near_East 8.94
5 Oceanian 1.22
6 Sub-Saharan 0.86
7 South_Asian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.26
9 East_Asian 0.25
10 South_African_HG 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.64
2 French 8.24
3 Romanian 8.3
4 Italian_Bergamo 8.84
5 Spanish_Northeast 9.29
6 Spanish_Canaries 10.79
7 Belgian 10.87
8 Bulgarian 11.56
9 Croatian 12.23
10 German_South 12.62
11 Albanian 12.63
12 Utahn_European 12.83
13 Tuscan 12.97
14 Greek 13.73
15 Dutch_South 13.86
16 English_South 14.76
17 Hungarian 14.82
18 French_South 15.47
19 Irish 16.13
20 Czech 17.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.2% French + 10.8% Saudi @ 2.65
2 56.6% Spanish_Southwest + 43.4% Romanian @ 2.91
3 66.7% Spanish_Southwest + 33.3% Croatian @ 2.99
4 85.4% French + 14.6% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.02
5 92.7% French + 7.3% BedouinB @ 3.18
6 65.8% Spanish_Southwest + 34.2% Bulgarian @ 3.31
7 85.7% French + 14.3% Yemeni @ 3.43
8 57.5% Romanian + 42.5% Spanish_Canaries @ 3.46
9 86% French + 14% Saharawi @ 3.52
10 82.7% Spanish_Southwest + 17.3% Mordovian @ 3.54
11 83.9% French + 16.1% Egyptian @ 3.58
12 72.1% Spanish_Southwest + 27.9% Hungarian @ 3.62
13 84.1% French + 15.9% Tunisian @ 3.71
14 83.5% French + 16.5% Algerian @ 3.79
15 85% Spanish_Southwest + 15% Russian @ 3.85
16 83.4% French + 16.6% BedouinA @ 3.85
17 88.7% Spanish_Southwest + 11.3% Tajik_Pomiri @ 3.95
18 84.8% French + 15.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.97
19 76.6% Spanish_Southwest + 23.4% Czech @ 4.03
20 79.3% French + 20.7% Libyan_Jew @ 4.1
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