Bulgarian Turk gedmatch results

[Flo-]

Hello, here are my results.
(My mum is from varna province, dad is from deliorman)
I have some questions to ask
So gedmatch Eurogenes K13 Oracle results
sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.12
2 East_Med 18.59
3 West_Med 18.21
4 West_Asian 15.44
5 North_Atlantic 15.3
6 Red_Sea 3.21
7 Siberian 2.82
8 South_Asian 1.47
9 Amerindian 1.2
10 Oceanian 0.65

Single population

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.27
2 Romanian 9.17
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.17
4 Serbian 12.85
5 Central_Greek 15.29
6 Moldavian 15.32
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.54
8 East_Sicilian 16.75
9 West_Sicilian 18.32
10 Tuscan 18.33
11 Ashkenazi 18.77
12 Croatian 19.04
13 South_Italian 19.77
14 Hungarian 20.23
15 North_Italian 20.29
16 Austrian 23.41
17 Tatar 24.4
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 24.52
19 East_German 25.01
20 Algerian_Jewish 25.1

Mixed Mode


Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Central_Greek + 32.1% Erzya @ 4.2
2 65.8% Moldavian + 34.2% Cyprian @ 4.47
3 61.8% South_Italian + 38.2% Erzya @ 4.65
4 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Kabardin @ 4.96
5 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Balkar @ 5.01
6 68.1% Central_Greek + 31.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.01
7 69.5% Moldavian + 30.5% Assyrian @ 5.05
8 66% East_Sicilian + 34% Erzya @ 5.07
9 67.3% Moldavian + 32.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.09
10 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.1
11 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Nogay @ 5.11
12 84% Bulgarian + 16% Kumyk @ 5.13
13 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% North_Ossetian @ 5.16
14 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% Adygei @ 5.18
15 53.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.1% Cyprian @ 5.26
16 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.28
17 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Chuvash @ 5.29
18 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Ossetian @ 5.31
19 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Abhkasian @ 5.33
20 85.6% Bulgarian + 14.4% Turkmen @ 5.35

So I have questions
1) do these results mean I am Bulgarian according to my genes?
2) is there any trace that some ancestors came from Anatolia (i have been told all my ancestors came from Anatolia, but I guess this is not right)
3) are my results typical for a Bulgarian Turk?
4) can you compare and interpret my results with other balcanic and Turkish results?

Thank you in advance

[Marmara]

As far as i know the Bulgarian Turk genetics vary, Kaspias is half Bulgarian Turk half Pomak and scores significant Anatolian/Turkic. Your genetic makeup is mostly Bulgarian with slight Anatolian admixture.

[FilhoV]

Thanks for sharing

Predominantly Balkan with a Turkic component

[Marmara]

Also, try different calculators.

[Prinses]

Yeah you seem mostly to be bulgarian. Your west asian is compared to other turks low but that's normal because your ancestors seem to be from balkan regio.

[WillyWonka]

What are your autosomal results?

[Flo-]

Thank you for your answer.
I am interpreting as dominance in Bulgarian and a bit of caucasian( in the mix population all the second source is from Caucasia) am I right to think that my ancestors are from Bulgaria (or Moldavia) and a bit Turkic tribe but not Anatolian origin?
Do you know how I differ from an Anatolian Turk in my dna?

[Flo-]

And what would be your guess about that Turkic component?(where does it came from)

[Flo-]

By the way have you ever shared your results? I would love to compare them with my husbands..

[Flo-]

I did
Here is Eurogenes

# Population Percent
1 EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Baltic 17.13
2 East_Med 16.18
3 West_Asian 15.09
4 West_Med 14.27
5 North_Sea 13.46
6 Eastern_Euro 7.95
7 Atlantic 7.64
8 Red_Sea 3.3
9 Siberian 2.23
10 South_Asian 1.22
11 Amerindian 1.07
12 Oceanian 0.4

Bulgarian 8.2
2 Romanian 8.99
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.44
4 Greek 11.87
5 Serbian 12.84
6 Moldavian 13.93
7 Ashkenazi 14.6
8 Central_Greek 14.9
9 East_Sicilian 16.03
10 Italian_Abruzzo 16.05
11 Tuscan 16.98
12 Croatian 17.2
13 Hungarian 17.91
14 South_Italian 18.5
15 West_Sicilian 18.59
16 Austrian 19.59
17 North_Italian 19.63
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.43
19 East_German 22.69
20 Ukrainian 22.69

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Moldavian + 32.4% Cyprian @ 5.91
2 70.7% Moldavian + 29.3% Assyrian @ 5.96
3 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Armenian @ 6.09
4 79.6% Greek_Thessaly + 20.4% Erzya @ 6.23
5 72.8% Moldavian + 27.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.23
6 71.1% Moldavian + 28.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.27
7 69.1% Moldavian + 30.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.32
8 77.5% Greek_Thessaly + 22.5% Tatar @ 6.34
9 72.9% Moldavian + 27.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.38
10 77.6% Greek_Thessaly + 22.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.46
11 72.5% Moldavian + 27.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.46
12 69.4% Moldavian + 30.6% Syrian @ 6.49
13 64.3% Greek_Thessaly + 35.7% Moldavian @ 6.51
14 64.8% Moldavian + 35.2% Turkish @ 6.54
15 72.4% Moldavian + 27.6% Samaritan @ 6.55
16 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Cyprian @ 6.55
17 52.1% Moldavian + 47.9% Central_Greek @ 6.61
18 78.6% Greek_Thessaly + 21.4% Southwest_Russian @ 6.64
19 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.77
20 75.6% Greek_Thessaly + 24.

[Flo-]

Which results are these?
I did a test from MyHeritage. Do you refer to these results?

[Lucas]

Post K36 also.

[Flo-]

Post K36 also.

Ok here they are:
ation
Amerindian 1.27
Arabian 3.21
Armenian 5.04
Basque 2.78
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.15
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.80
East_Central_Asian 0.23
East_Central_Euro 11.13
East_Med 4.20
Eastern_Euro 5.28
Fennoscandian 5.02
French 2.57
Iberian 8.13
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.89
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.26
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.10
North_Caucasian 6.99
North_Sea 2.13
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.38
South_Central_Asian 2.90
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.20
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.62
West_Med 6.70

[Böri]

Very native like results.
Bulgarian Turks score until 8% Siberian genes sometimes (I saw one from Kardzhali region).


As far as i know the Bulgarian Turk genetics vary, Kaspias is half Bulgarian Turk half Pomak and scores significant Anatolian/Turkic. Your genetic makeup is mostly Bulgarian with slight Anatolian admixture.

Ottomans didn't deport any Armenian, Kurd or Assyrian to Balkans. So I dont know what you mean by 'Anatolian' but that doesnt exist there anyway.
Balkan Turks are native East Balkanian + some Turcoman.
What you might refer to as 'Anatolian' is what came from Kwarezm region.

[Flo-]

Very native like results.
Bulgarian Turks score until 8% Siberian genes sometimes (I saw one from Kardzhali region).



Ottomans didn't deport any Armenian, Kurd or Assyrian to Balkans. So I dont know what you mean by 'Anatolian' but that doesnt exist there anyway.
Balkan Turks are native East Balkanian + some Turcoman.
What you might refer to as 'Anatolian' is what came from Kwarezm region.

What do you mean by very native like? You mean Bulgarian native?
My Siberian is only %2.82

Do I have any turcoman?

[Haider]

You seem mostly native Bulgarian with some minor Anatolian input, nothing Turkish in you. I suspect your family might have started identifying as Turkish during late Ottoman empire when the empire was crumbling and people were being forcibly Turkified.

[Flo-]

Hello, here are my results.
(My mum is from varna province, dad is from deliorman)
I have some questions to ask
So gedmatch Eurogenes K13 Oracle results
sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.12
2 East_Med 18.59
3 West_Med 18.21
4 West_Asian 15.44
5 North_Atlantic 15.3
6 Red_Sea 3.21
7 Siberian 2.82
8 South_Asian 1.47
9 Amerindian 1.2
10 Oceanian 0.65

Single population

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.27
2 Romanian 9.17
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.17
4 Serbian 12.85
5 Central_Greek 15.29
6 Moldavian 15.32
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.54
8 East_Sicilian 16.75
9 West_Sicilian 18.32
10 Tuscan 18.33
11 Ashkenazi 18.77
12 Croatian 19.04
13 South_Italian 19.77
14 Hungarian 20.23
15 North_Italian 20.29
16 Austrian 23.41
17 Tatar 24.4
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 24.52
19 East_German 25.01
20 Algerian_Jewish 25.1

Mixed Mode


Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Central_Greek + 32.1% Erzya @ 4.2
2 65.8% Moldavian + 34.2% Cyprian @ 4.47
3 61.8% South_Italian + 38.2% Erzya @ 4.65
4 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Kabardin @ 4.96
5 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Balkar @ 5.01
6 68.1% Central_Greek + 31.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.01
7 69.5% Moldavian + 30.5% Assyrian @ 5.05
8 66% East_Sicilian + 34% Erzya @ 5.07
9 67.3% Moldavian + 32.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.09
10 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.1
11 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Nogay @ 5.11
12 84% Bulgarian + 16% Kumyk @ 5.13
13 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% North_Ossetian @ 5.16
14 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% Adygei @ 5.18
15 53.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.1% Cyprian @ 5.26
16 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.28
17 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Chuvash @ 5.29
18 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Ossetian @ 5.31
19 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Abhkasian @ 5.33
20 85.6% Bulgarian + 14.4% Turkmen @ 5.35

So I have questions
1) do these results mean I am Bulgarian according to my genes?
2) is there any trace that some ancestors came from Anatolia (i have been told all my ancestors came from Anatolia, but I guess this is not right)
3) are my results typical for a Bulgarian Turk?
4) can you compare and interpret my results with other balcanic and Turkish results?

Thank you in advance


Actuo wrote it wrong , my mother is from burgas

[Böri]

What do you mean by very native like? You mean Bulgarian native?
My Siberian is only %2.82

Do I have any turcoman?

Quite few, if that doesn't have another source (like Tatar or old Bulgarian). You are closest to Bulgarians obviously.

Afaik ethnic Bulgarians refer to converts (Pomaks) as Bulgari Muhammadi and to Turkish settlers (Turcomans) as Yoruks.

[Flo-]

You seem mostly native Bulgarian with some minor Anatolian input, nothing Turkish in you. I suspect your family might have started identifying as Turkish during late Ottoman empire when the empire was crumbling and people were being forcibly Turkified.

Awwww
Really nothing Turkish in me? It is a bit of a game changer about my history.. I had never guessed this seriously
My results are different from other Turkish from Bulgaria?

[Böri]

You seem mostly native Bulgarian with some minor Anatolian input, nothing Turkish in you. I suspect your family might have started identifying as Turkish during late Ottoman empire when the empire was crumbling and people were being forcibly Turkified.

The person is 0% SS African and Red Sea is on Balkan levels, so it's difficult to talk about old affinity or cluster with Semites from Levant ;)

[xripkan]

What do you mean by very native like? You mean Bulgarian native?
My Siberian is only %2.82

Do I have any turcoman?

Without being an expert I think that you are mostly a Balkan. Your siberian and east asian component in k36 is zero so I don't think you have Turkic/Turkoman ancestry. Maybe a little Anatolian. But for me your ancestry is a mix of Slavic and PaleoBalkanic populations.

[Flo-]

Quite few, if that doesn't have another source (like Tatar or old Bulgarian). You are closest to Bulgarians obviously.

Afaik ethnic Bulgarians refer to converts (Pomaks) as Bulgari Muhammadi and to Turkish settlers (Turcomans) as Yoruks.
I am really surprised.
There is no ancestors known from my both parents line from bulgaria(native) russian, Tatar, pomak or any other ethnicity..
What we know was we are the decentats of Yoruks from Anatolia
So this was just a legend?

[Leto]

Add the Dodecad K12b admixture proportions.

[Marmara]

I am really surprised.
There is no ancestors known from my both parents line from bulgaria(native) russian, Tatar, pomak or any other ethnicity..
What we know was we are the decentats of Yoruks from Anatolia
So this was just a legend?

It is legend to be ethnically pure. You do have the Asian genetics but it's heavily dilluted by mixing. No Balkan Turk is fully Yörük.

Do you have your husband's results? (If he's also a Bulgarian Turk) and post a classification thread.

Thracian (another member) is also a Bulgarian Turk living in USA, as far as i remember he is almost fully native.

[Flo-]

Add the Dodecad K12b admixture proportions.

Population Percent
1 North_European 29.76
2 Caucasus 25.62
3 Atlantic_Med 24.48
4 Southwest_Asian 8.11
5 Gedrosia 7.3
6 Siberian 1.86
7 East_Asian 1.51
8 South_Asian 0.98
9 Northwest_African 0.39

[Böri]

I am really surprised.
There is no ancestors known from my both parents line from bulgaria(native) russian, Tatar, pomak or any other ethnicity..
What we know was we are the decentats of Yoruks from Anatolia
So this was just a legend?

I see, in your case that's more diluted. Still you have +3% Siberian and East Asian; while for Bulgarian Turks the average is around 7%, in some cases some more.
The Yörük genetic markers are stronger among Turks in southern Bulgaria, living close to Rhodopes. Northern Bulgaria is more diluted.

In their 2-population approximations, Balkan Turks are sometimes 50% Bulgarian/Serb + 50% Turk_Balıkesir (native Anatolian Turk).

[Marmara]

I see, in your case that's more diluted. The Yörük genetic markers are stronger among Turks in southern Bulgaria, living close to Rhodopes. Northern Bulgaria is more diluted.

In their 2-population approximations, Balkan Turks are sometimes 50% Bulgarian/Serb + 50% Turk_Balıkesir (native Anatolian Turk).

How sure are you about that? Don't Turks from Northern Bulgaria have substantial Tatar ancestry?

[Flo-]

No I have never thought of being pure yoruk or in one enticity but both my parent are from small villages that they intermarry in the village or neighbor villages and everyone thinks they are decendents of ottoman Turks so hearing you don’t have anything Turkish in you came as a shock to be honest..

[Leto]

Population Percent
1 North_European 29.76
2 Caucasus 25.62
3 Atlantic_Med 24.48
4 Southwest_Asian 8.11
5 Gedrosia 7.3
6 Siberian 1.86
7 East_Asian 1.51
8 South_Asian 0.98
9 Northwest_African 0.39
Very small Mongoloid percentage, I have more, lol. You're 1/32 East Eurasian.

[Flo-]

My mum is from Burgas so south but dad is from deliorman (north)

[Deniz]

Firstly Congrats.Your results are looking normal for a Bulgarian Turk.We can see some differences in every region.I think you should try different calculators.My advices>Mdlp k23b,Puntdnal k13,Harappa,Dodecad k7b.

After that We can compare our results.Also My family and me are from Deliorman too.

[Marmara]

No I have never thought of being pure yoruk or in one enticity but both my parent are from small villages that they intermarry in the village or neighbor villages and everyone thinks they are decendents of ottoman Turks so hearing you don’t have anything Turkish in you came as a shock to be honest..

Maybe one side is more Turkish but the other diluted it.

You have 3% Mongoloid, if you take 15% for full Turkish, it would mean 1/5 Turkish ancestry.

[Böri]

Tatars are Turkic, not Turkish.
Turkish/Turk is Turkomans/Oghuz people first and foremost.

Tatars are from the Kipchak in a linguistical spectrum.
They are historically Kipchaks led by a Jochid Mongol elite.

That said, of Crimean Tatars, these from southern coastline are Turkish Tatars. They are from 13th century Turcoman settlers to the Peninsula.

[Flo-]

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[Marmara]

Ok I see
So goodbye legends of Central Asia
Goodbye steppes of Mongolia
So I have most likely no Turkic in me right?

You have Turkic in you, but it's very diluted.

[Flo-]

Firstly Congrats.Your results are looking normal for a Bulgarian Turk.We can see some differenc
Hey I would love that..
I can share some of the calculators (I posted already quiet few actually)
es in every region.I think you should try different calculators.My advices>Mdlp k23b,Puntdnal k13,Harappa,Dodecad k7b.

After that We can compare our results.Also My family and me are from Deliorman too.

[Böri]

Ok I see
So goodbye legends of Central Asia
Goodbye steppes of Mongolia
So I have most likely no Turkic in me right?

You are either trolling here or you are simply imposter Pomak.
Life is life.

Sock of Bvlgari Muhammadi Kaspias?

[Flo-]

You are either trolling here or you are simply imposter Pomak.
Life is life.

Sock of Bvlgari Muhammadi Kaspias?

Sorry but I am not trolling or imposing anything. I am from Bulgarian Turks living in turkey now that they immigrated to turkey in 70’s
Ve yalan söylemiyorum. Şu ana kadar bildiğimi düşündüğüm herşey değişti kökenim hakkımda ve evet buna çok şaşırdım.
DNA vs ile çok kısa süre önce ilgilenmeye başladımzz
So i am not lying just trying to dig in my past because I could never find anything in the archives or by hearing from my grandparents..

[Kaspias]

Congrats for your results.

You will hear a lot of bullshit comments in here. Some are even trolls. Just pm me or write on thread if you have questions so i can answer.


You are not convert or something btw. Typical Balkan Turk results for Northern Bulgaria. Don't take Böri serious.

[Deniz]

Grandfather

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 48.52
2 West_Asian 23.77
3 Southern 21
4 Siberian 3.63
5 East_Asian 1.94
6 South_Asian 1.04
7 African 0.1
My mother
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 47.28
2 West_Asian 23.81
3 Southern 22.12
4 Siberian 4.23
5 East_Asian 1.53
6 South_Asian 0.87
7 African 0.16
Father
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.18
2 West_Asian 25.74
3 Southern 22.16
4 Siberian 5.97
5 East_Asian 0.68
6 African 0.24
7 South_Asian 0.03
Me
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.36
2 West_Asian 25.53
3 Southern 22.91
4 Siberian 5.61
5 South_Asian 0.43
6 African 0.15

Dodecad K7b results of My family.All of them from Deliorman Razgrad.I can share other results when you want.Or Just message me.

[Böri]

Sorry but I am not trolling or imposing anything. I am from Bulgarian Turks living in turkey now that they immigrated to turkey in 70’s
Ve yalan söylemiyorum. Şu ana kadar bildiğimi düşündüğüm herşey değişti kökenim hakkımda ve evet buna çok şaşırdım.
DNA vs ile çok kısa süre önce ilgilenmeye başladımzz
So i am not lying just trying to dig in my past because I could never find anything in the archives or by hearing from my grandparents..

Sure İ believed you. All that story really shocked me too!
So you are new in a forum where you know none. First you share your results, then your deep feelings on the same day... That's so credible.
Gotta believe in you with all naive intentions.

[Böri]

Congrats for your results.

You will hear a lot of bullshit comments in here. Some are even trolls. Just pm me or write on thread if you have questions so i can answer.


You are not convert or something btw. Typical Balkan Turk results for Northern Bulgaria. Don't take Böri serious.

Again Bvlgari Muhammadi too much involved in anything about Turks!

[Marmara]

Sorry but I am not trolling or imposing anything. I am from Bulgarian Turks living in turkey now that they immigrated to turkey in 70’s
Ve yalan söylemiyorum. Şu ana kadar bildiğimi düşündüğüm herşey değişti kökenim hakkımda ve evet buna çok şaşırdım.
DNA vs ile çok kısa süre önce ilgilenmeye başladımzz
So i am not lying just trying to dig in my past because I could never find anything in the archives or by hearing from my grandparents..

Daha yenisin, araştırmaya devam ettikçe anlayacaksın sonuçların normalliğini.

En hakiki has dağlı yörükler bile %20 civarı Mongoloid. Ortalama Anadolu türkünün 10-15 arası, bu oranın sende düşük çıkması normal.

[Deniz]

Again Bvlgari Muhammadi too much involved in anything about Turks!

Bu insan evladının sadece Pomak olmadığı gayet açık.Bulgar veya Müslüman Bulgar olmayı aşağılayan tavrı bırakıp yardımcı olmayı deneyebilirsiniz.Forumda herkes troll olma amaçlı bulunmuyor.Şaşırmış olabilir insanlar.Bu gayet doğal bir tepki.

[Kaspias]

As far as i know the Bulgarian Turk genetics vary, Kaspias is half Bulgarian Turk half Pomak and scores significant Anatolian/Turkic. Your genetic makeup is mostly Bulgarian with slight Anatolian admixture.

Deliorman Türkleri Bulgar ortalamasından daha çok Baltık alıyorlar. Bozkır katkısı çok fazla ve az Türk skoru almalarının sebebi bir çoğunun 1289'da Seyit Saltuk ile Deliorman'a gitmesinden ve oraya yerleşmesinden kaynaklı. Tipik Balkan Türklerinden daha uzun süre orada ikamet ediyorlar. Osmanlı Türkmenleri ise sonradan gittiğinde yine aynı bölgede onlarla birlikte yaşamış. Hepsinin ortalaması Dobruca ve Kuzey Bulgaristan bölgesinin tipik Balkan Türk skorundan ufak çapta ayrılmasına sebebiyet veriyor. Öte yandan benim Balkan Türk tarafım neredeyse Edirneli ile aynı skoru alıyor.

[Böri]

Bu insan evladının sadece Pomak olmadığı gayet açık.Bulgar veya Müslüman Bulgar olmayı aşağılayan tavrı bırakıp yardımcı olmayı deneyebilirsiniz.Forumda herkes troll olma amaçlı bulunmuyor.Şaşırmış olabilir insanlar.Bu gayet doğal bir tepki.

Kaspias must listen to that. He is simply too much involved in anything about Turks sometimes even tryin to impose his view on the Turks.
And it turns out trolling, pretty much like Petros.
Otherwise ofc there is no problem in being Bvlgari Muhammadi. They are OK in real life. TA is different, this forum is a magnet for psychologically deranged people in real life.

[Catarinense1998]

Interesting results.

[Deniz]

Deliorman Türkleri Bulgar ortalamasından daha çok Baltık alıyorlar. Bozkır katkısı çok fazla ve az Türk skoru almalarının sebebi bir çoğunun 1289'da Seyit Saltuk ile Deliorman'a gitmesinden ve oraya yerleşmesinden kaynaklı. Tipik Balkan Türklerinden daha uzun süre orada ikamet ediyorlar. Osmanlı Türkmenleri ise sonradan gittiğinde yine aynı bölgede onlarla birlikte yaşamış. Hepsinin ortalaması Dobruca ve Kuzey Bulgaristan bölgesinin tipik Balkan Türk skorundan ufak çapta ayrılmasına sebebiyet veriyor. Öte yandan benim Balkan Türk tarafım neredeyse Edirneli ile aynı skoru alıyor.
Farklı anektodlarda ekleyebiliriz Deliormanın Türki geçmişiyle ilgili ama bu anlattığında oradaki Türklüğün bir parçası.

[Kaspias]

Farklı anektodlarda ekleyebiliriz Deliormanın Türki geçmişiyle ilgili ama bu anlattığında oradaki Türklüğün bir parçası.

Evet. Daha çokça var, Deliorman bölgesi Türkler tarafından en fazla ikamet edilmiş Balkan bölgelerden birisi. Gerek Türkmenler gerek Bozkır Türkleri.

[Flo-]

Congrats for your results.

You will hear a lot of bullshit comments in here. Some are even trolls. Just pm me or write on thread if you have questions so i can answer.

Ok thanks I will post the results to you soon.
Thanks for your support by the way
:)
You are not convert or something btw. Typical Balkan Turk results for Northern Bulgaria. Don't take Böri serious.

[Marmara]

Deliorman Türkleri Bulgar ortalamasından daha çok Baltık alıyorlar. Bozkır katkısı çok fazla ve az Türk skoru almalarının sebebi bir çoğunun 1289'da Seyit Saltuk ile Deliorman'a gitmesinden ve oraya yerleşmesinden kaynaklı. Tipik Balkan Türklerinden daha uzun süre orada ikamet ediyorlar. Osmanlı Türkmenleri ise sonradan gittiğinde yine aynı bölgede onlarla birlikte yaşamış. Hepsinin ortalaması Dobruca ve Kuzey Bulgaristan bölgesinin tipik Balkan Türk skorundan ufak çapta ayrılmasına sebebiyet veriyor. Öte yandan benim Balkan Türk tarafım neredeyse Edirneli ile aynı skoru alıyor.

Bak ben Deliorman'ın hikayesini bilmiyordum. Bulgaristan ilginç ülke gerçekten, başlı başına kuruluşu (Bulgarlar) ve sonrasında hep türklerle içli dışlı olmuş bir coğrafya.

Belki Bulgaristan Türklerinin içinde öz Bulgar (türk olan) da vardır

[Flo-]

Grandfather

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 48.52
2 West_Asian 23.77
3 Southern 21
4 Siberian 3.63
5 East_Asian 1.94
6 South_Asian 1.04
7 African 0.1
My mother
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 47.28
2 West_Asian 23.81
3 Southern 22.12
4 Siberian 4.23
5 East_Asian 1.53
6 South_Asian 0.87
7 African 0.16
Father
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.18
2 West_Asian 25.74
3 Southern 22.16
4 Siberian 5.97
5 East_Asian 0.68
6 African 0.24
7 South_Asian 0.03
Me
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.36
2 West_Asian 25.53
3 Southern 22.91
4 Siberian 5.61
5 South_Asian 0.43
6 African 0.15

Dodecad K7b results of My family.All of them from Deliorman Razgrad.I can share other results when you want.Or Just message me.

Hey thanks for sharing..
Here is mine. In my family only I did the test.
Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 48.57
2 West_Asian 23.48
3 Southern 23.33
4 Siberian 2.82

[Haider]

Awwww
Really nothing Turkish in me? It is a bit of a game changer about my history.. I had never guessed this seriously
My results are different from other Turkish from Bulgaria?

Well your Anatolian 'shift' could be a sign of some Turkified Anatolian ancestor, but that's about it. But then again majority of Turkey's population is Turkified, with Turkic/Mongolic genes varying from 0% to 10% depending on the area.

[Bornoz]

Merhabalar hocam.
Turkish DNA Facebook sayfasına gidip yardım istediğiniz takdirde çok daha belirleyici sonuçlar sağlarlar size.
Ama muhtemelen en yakın eşleşmeniz Turk_Bulgaria çıkar gibi gibi.

[Kaspias]

Bak ben Deliorman'ın hikayesini bilmiyordum. Bulgaristan ilginç ülke gerçekten, başlı başına kuruluşu (Bulgarlar) ve sonrasında hep türklerle içli dışlı olmuş bir coğrafya.

Belki Bulgaristan Türklerinin içinde öz Bulgar (türk olan) da vardır

İhtimali yok diyemem ama sayıları çok küçüktür veya yoktur. Bulgarlar'da homojen bir dağılım yok ama bir bölümü 2%'lere kadar Sibirya alıyorlar. Kirlilik seviyesinde olsa da o skorun Bolgarlar'dan geldiğini düşünüyorum, kesin bir argümanım yok ama.

Öte yandan Şoplar var. Şoplar Sofya civarında yaşıyorlar ve Peçeneklerin torunları olduğu konusunda ciddi iddialar var. Kendileri de öyle söylüyor esasen. Ama bunlar tamamen hristiyan ve asimile olmuşlar. Makedonya'da Kumanova şehrine adını verenleri de unutmamak lazım.

Birçok Balkan Türkü sonucuna rastladım. Görüşüm çeşitli olduğu ve genellenemeyeceği yönünde. Aralarında Böri'nin söylediği gibi dönmelerde vardır ki Türkçe konuşan ve Sibiryası 1'den düşük olanda gördüm. Ama 2.5~3 Sibirya gayette Balkan Türkü ortalaması zaten.

[Flo-]

Kaspias must listen to that. He is simply too much involved in anything about Turks sometimes even tryin to impose his view on the Turks.
And it turns out trolling, pretty much like Petros.
Otherwise ofc there is no problem in being Bvlgari Muhammadi. They are OK in real life. TA is different, this forum is a magnet for psychologically deranged people in real life.
Tekrar söylüyorum pomak muhabbeti nereden geldi bilmiyorum ama pomak değilim, olsam da bunu söylemekten çekinmem. .

[Marmara]

İhtimali yok diyemem ama sayıları çok küçüktür veya yoktur. Bulgarlar'da homojen bir dağılım yok ama bir bölümü 2%'lere kadar Sibirya alıyorlar. Kirlilik seviyesinde olsa da o skorun Bolgarlar'dan geldiğini düşünüyorum, kesin bir argümanım yok ama.

Öte yandan Şoplar var. Şoplar Sofya civarında yaşıyorlar ve Peçeneklerin torunları olduğu konusunda ciddi iddialar var. Kendileri de öyle söylüyor esasen. Ama bunlar tamamen hristiyan ve asimile olmuşlar. Makedonya'da Kumanova şehrine adını verenleri de unutmamak lazım.

Birçok Balkan Türkü sonucuna rastladım. Görüşüm çeşitli olduğu ve genellenemeyeceği yönünde. Aralarında Böri'nin söylediği gibi dönmelerde vardır ki Türkçe konuşan ve Sibiryası 1'den düşük olanda gördüm. Ama 2.5~3 Sibirya gayette Balkan Türkü ortalaması zaten.

Evet %3'lük oran normal, ama genetik testlere aşina olmayan birisi için sıradışı.

Bugün birçok Anadolu türkü de kendini %100 göktürk kökenli sanıyor, neden çekik gözlü değil diye sorarsan iklim farkı der.

[Deniz]

Bak ben Deliorman'ın hikayesini bilmiyordum. Bulgaristan ilginç ülke gerçekten, başlı başına kuruluşu (Bulgarlar) ve sonrasında hep türklerle içli dışlı olmuş bir coğrafya.

Belki Bulgaristan Türklerinin içinde öz Bulgar (türk olan) da vardır
Bizim bölge zaten Bulgarların yerleştiği bölgelerden biri.Pliska dibimizde.Bir araştır istersen.Bir de Dobrucanın bizim bölgeye kadar uzanan eski ismi Küçük İskitya.Bozkırlı kavimler hep buradaymış.Peçenek ve Kumanlarıda unutma.Biz nasılsın sorusuna cevap İsla ve Pek İsla deriz.Bir sürüde kuzeyli Türk kavimlerinin kullandığı kelimeler var lehçemizde.

[Bornoz]

Evet %3'lük oran normal, ama genetik testlere aşina olmayan birisi için sıradışı.

Bugün birçok Anadolu türkü de kendini %100 göktürk kökenli sanıyor, neden çekik gözlü değil diye sorarsan iklim farkı der.

Okulda öyle anlatıyolardı çünkü.
Hocamın Macarlar Türk dediğini dahi hatırlıyorum. Nasıl bi beyin yıkamaymış

[Marmara]

Okulda öyle anlatıyolardı çünkü.
Hocamın Macarlar Türk dediğini dahi hatırlıyorum. Nasıl bi beyin yıkamaymış

Ablam KPSS çalışırken de tarih kitabını incelemiştim Macarlara turk diyordu.

Gerçekler açıklanmadığı için insanların kafası karışıyor, çok riskli.

[Flo-]

Çok teşekkürler, oraya da bakarım

[pelikarski]

Добре дошла във форума

[Flo-]

Добре дошла във форума

Благодаря

[karakartal]

Hanımefendi sonuçlarınız gayet normal. Sibirya oranınız da öyle. Ben bir Selanik mübadili olarak sizinle aynı sibirya oranını taşıyorum ama sizin sonuçlarınız batıya daha yakın elbette.

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[archangel]

Sonuçların Bulgaristan Türkleri için normal

[Karkurdu]

Hoş geldin foruma. Sonuçların Balkan Türk ortalamasının biraz altında olsa da Bulgaristan Türkü için normal. Buradan Balkan Türklerine ait ortalamaları inceleyebilirsiniz:

https://turkishdna.blogspot.com/2018/05/balkan-turklerinin-otozomal-ve-y-dna.html

Genetik olarak tabii ki Türkmenlik bulunmakta sizde.

[Bosniensis]

As far as i know the Bulgarian Turk genetics vary, Kaspias is half Bulgarian Turk half Pomak and scores significant Anatolian/Turkic. Your genetic makeup is mostly Bulgarian with slight Anatolian admixture.

vary? How so?

Turks were in Italy?

Anatolian admixture isn't Turkish admixture.

Bulgarian isn't Turkish admixture?

Which admixture is Turkish then? Where your Oghuzes come from?

Turks don't have Greek, Italian and Balkan admixture at all but rather Kazakh, Turkmen and other admixture lol.

[Karkurdu]

You seem mostly native Bulgarian with some minor Anatolian input, nothing Turkish in you. I suspect your family might have started identifying as Turkish during late Ottoman empire when the empire was crumbling and people were being forcibly Turkified.

Do not blabbering about stuff you don't know shit about you Levantine chimp. I'm sick and tired of your kind.

[Flo-]

Hoş geldin foruma. Sonuçların Balkan Türk ortalamasının biraz altında olsa da Bulgaristan Türkü için normal. Buradan Balkan Türklerine ait ortalamaları inceleyebilirsiniz:

https://turkishdna.blogspot.com/2018/05/balkan-turklerinin-otozomal-ve-y-dna.html

Genetik olarak tabii ki Türkmenlik bulunmakta sizde.

Çok teşekkürler, paylaştığınız linke bakacağım.

[Flo-]

Hanımefendi sonuçlarınız gayet normal. Sibirya oranınız da öyle. Ben bir Selanik mübadili olarak sizinle aynı sibirya oranını taşıyorum ama sizin sonuçlarınız batıya daha yakın elbette.

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