Vojnik's LM genetics report

[Vojnik]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zjsCFvszGnV5TTYWEB6zhflMNXih_-zz

http://i63.tinypic.com/2cmu5s.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/27y0i2s.jpg


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Looks like my closest region in the world is north-west Romania. Closer then Macedonia, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania. What is that region?http://i63.tinypic.com/23hmw4h.jpg

[DarknessWin]

Greek Vlach . LOL

[Vojnik]

Greek Vlach . LOL

Yeah. From what i can tell from the info, they are more north shifted then Greeks.

[Vojnik]

I also find it odd that i'm closer to Germans then western Turks.

[Dick]

Nice results, southern Serb.

[DarknessWin]

Nice results, southern Serb.

Hope now he stop his bullshit about ancient macedonians and start support his slavic serbian roots

[arkas]

Interesting results :thumb001:

[Vojnik]

Nice results, southern Serb.

Better that then Greek, Bulgar or Albanian.

Just kidding greeks, bulgars and albanians. don't freak out.

[Vojnik]

Hope now he stop his bullshit about ancient macedonians and start support his slavic serbian roots

Dickwad. You and i probably have identical results. Heck, we are probably cousins somewhere not far down the line. You are southern Serb too.

[Dick]

Better that then Greek, Bulgar or Albanian.

:thumb001:

[Vojnik]

Interesting results :thumb001:

Yeah i know. I have no idea about this north west Romania stuff:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w65jr7.png

Can i get a Romanian passport now?

[arkas]

Yeah i know. I have no idea about this north west Romania stuff:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w65jr7.png

Can i get a Romanian passport now?

Do you reckon you can pass as Romanian?

[Mingle]

Northwest Romania is surprising. Could he just have a bad reference for them or something?

[Vojnik]

Do you reckon you can pass as Romanian?

Funny thing is i looked at nightclub pics form Arad (brought to you by the famous Sikeliot), a city in north west Romania, and i can pass 100%.

[Vojnik]

Northwest Romania is surprising. Could he just have a bad reference for them or something?

I'll wait and see if he comments on this thread.

[Vojnik]

Not that surprising to get Romania though. Gedmatch gives me Romania as number one in the oracles all the time.

[Mingle]

Not that surprising to get Romania though. Gedmatch gives me Romania as number one in the oracles all the time.The Romanian reference sample on GEDmatch is based on Romanians from Wallachia (Southern Romania). Romania is a big country and is genetically heterogenous, so being close to Southern Romanians doesn't say anything about the rest of the country. There's a Northwest Romanian user on Anthrogenica who gets Hungarians and Slovenes as his closest populations.

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[karakartal]

Good results. Congratulations.

[Vojnik]

The Romanian reference sample on GEDmatch is based on Romanians from Wallachia (Southern Romania). Romania is a big country and is genetically heterogenous, so being close to Southern Romanians doesn't say anything about the rest of the country. There's a Northwest Romanian user on Anthrogenica who gets Hungarians and Slovenes as his closest populations.

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Yeah Northwest Romania borders with Hungary and there is a Hungarian minority there:


Maghiari are Hungarians.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Romania_harta_etnica_2011.PNG/1024px-Romania_harta_etnica_2011.PNG

[Aren]

There's something very odd here, your closest correlation value here is just at 0,91 which is really low for someone not mixed.

[Vojnik]

There's something very odd here, your closest correlation value here is just at 0,91 which is really low for someone not mixed.

Maybe i am and i don't know.

[Aren]

Maybe i am and i don't know.

What raw data are you using?

[Vojnik]

What raw data are you using?

23andme.

[Dick]

Ancient calc for fun


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225174-Post-k36-nmonte-ancient-results&p=5625591&viewfull=1#post5625591

[Aren]

23andme.

Ah that explains it, the 23andme v5 rawdata can give very weird results with gedmatch.

[Vojnik]

There's something very odd here, your closest correlation value here is just at 0,91 which is really low for someone not mixed.

Just checked Grundig's results and he get 0.95 to 1 as his highest. I get 0.91 to 1 as highest.

[Vojnik]

Ah that explains it, the 23andme v5 rawdata can give very weird results with gedmatch.

So is it all a waste then? Which raw data gives good results then?

[Aren]

Just checked Grundig's results and he get 0.95 to 1 as his highest. I get 0.91 to 1 as highest.

I get 0.97 as my highest, 0.96-0.97 is quite normal to get as highest for unmixed individuals. But in your case it's probably the flawed raw data.
Try converting it to MyHeritage or 23andme v3 using this (https://wilhelmhgenealogy.wordpress.com/convert-23andme-to-myheritage-and-gedmatch-classic/)

[Dick]

Ah that explains it, the 23andme v5 rawdata can give very weird results with gedmatch.

I'm pretty sure his is V3 or V4. He did it a long time ago.

[Vojnik]

I'm pretty sure his is V3 or V4. He did it a long time ago.

Yeah joined 2013 with that data.

[Dick]

Yeah joined 2013 with that data.

Your raw data is fine then.

[Aren]

I'm pretty sure his is V3 or V4. He did it a long time ago.


Yeah joined 2013 with that data.

Oh then it's def not that. Maybe you are mixed then.

[Dick]

Oh then it's def not that. Maybe you are mixed then.

All South Slavs are basically mixed anyway, either ancient or recent(middle ages)

[Vojnik]

Oh then it's def not that. Maybe you are mixed then.

Hmm i wonder in what away. Regionally or otherwise.

[Aren]

All South Slavs are basically mixed anyway, either ancient or recent(middle ages)
Still he shouldn't be getting this low correlation value when there are numerous Balkan averages.

[Vojnik]

Still he shouldn't be getting this low correlation value when there are numerous Balkan averages.

Do you know any other balkan users who have done this? And what their highest correlation is?

[Rgvgjhvv]

Oh then it's def not that. Maybe you are mixed then.

No my highest is 0.91 as well and I'm Greek af.

[karakartal]

I'm mixed and i'm 0.82

[Aren]

Do you know any other balkan users who have done this? And what their highest correlation is?

Check Lukasz thread on Anthrogenica probably you'll find some there.

[Vojnik]

No my highest is 0.91 as well and I'm Greek af.

I think it's a balkan thing. Just a bit more mixed among other balkanites compared to other regions of Europe.

[Rgvgjhvv]

I think it's a balkan thing. Just a bit more mixed among other balkanites compared to other regions of Europe.

I don't think it's anything you should be even looking into, to be totally honest lol.

^ As in it's a waste of time, that number is perfectly normal

[Vojnik]

Check Lukasz thread on Anthrogenica probably you'll find some there.

Ahh just saw a couple. Dibran, an albanian gets 0.94 to 1 and Bosniansis gets 0.93 to 1. I think it's just a balkan thing.

[Rgvgjhvv]

As to why it's Romania? It could simply be that region has a very similar genetic formula to the components which make up your DNA.

For example, many Greeks and Italians will get each other on the K36 correlation map, but it's no indication of actual ancestry.

Unfortunately, I know crap all about Eastern Europe to be of enough help though, sorry brah

[Pubiczar]

Ahh just saw a couple. Dibran, an albanian gets 0.94 to 1 and Bosniansis gets 0.93 to 1. I think it's just a balkan thing.

My biggest correlation value is 0.94735.
I say yours is normal as well.
I've seen for mixed individuals, who never get such kind of value but much lower.
The Balkan populations are not that homogeneous like some north Western European populations.

[Freeroostah]

Ahh just saw a couple. Dibran, an albanian gets 0.94 to 1 and Bosniansis gets 0.93 to 1. I think it's just a balkan thing.

My highest is .93 in Peloponesos but then I get .92 all over the main Greek Mainland core and Albania. I get .87 in South Romania
Your results are normal, nothing to worry about

[Papastratosels26]

Nice results

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[Vojnik]

I'm mixed and i'm 0.82


What are you mixed with?

[Vojnik]

I'm 0.91. Killlllll meeeee.

[Gründig]

Just checked Grundig's results and he get 0.95 to 1 as his highest. I get 0.91 to 1 as highest.

I'm 100% European but not 100% one ethnicity and my family isn't just from one area, so it makes sense.

However, I have seen some people who are clearly mixed with different ethnicities get very close correlation values. So I'm not fully sure how it works.

Either way, cool results. Lukasz does a good job.

[Slavic Italian]

Yeah Northwest Romania borders with Hungary and there is a Hungarian minority there:


Maghiari are Hungarians.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Romania_harta_etnica_2011.PNG/1024px-Romania_harta_etnica_2011.PNG


I'm seeing that as well on these tests quite a bit.

[Lucas]

Ok, NW_Romanian average is made up from 5 academic kits from Lazaridis 2016. They are said to be from Apuseni mountains area. And three from Gedmatch.
So it isn't problem with this average I think. You are simply similar to them the most. Why I don't know. I really think it is Vlach blood:)
I knew that your are Macedonian but I can't made up artificial report to be in line with it if most tools is telling something different.

[DarknessWin]

Dickwad. You and i probably have identical results. Heck, we are probably cousins somewhere not far down the line. You are southern Serb too.

I already said that my results are 100% Greek so shut the fuck up.
I score pretty mediteranean when you score slavic

You are not different than Serbs and Dick already said that.

You are just brainwashed Serb

[Token]

Yeah. From what i can tell from the info, they are more north shifted then Greeks.

Interesting how they shift towards Italy.

[Bogdan]

Nice. Interesting to see your results.

[Lucas]

Ok, NW_Romanian average is made up from 5 academic kits from Lazaridis 2016. They are said to be from Apuseni mountains area. And three from Gedmatch.
So it isn't problem with this average I think. You are simply similar to them the most. Why I don't know. I really think it is Vlach blood:)
I knew that your are Macedonian but I can't made up artificial report to be in line with it if most tools is telling something different.

I added new functionality today. It is average geographical position based on whole nMonte result. So it is not closest region but something more averaged.

Vojnik average position. Still northern than Macednia but on the Bulgar territory.

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/a2492bc6-60eb-4989-9ceb-d953c7ea942f.png

[Vojnik]

Ok, NW_Romanian average is made up from 5 academic kits from Lazaridis 2016. They are said to be from Apuseni mountains area. And three from Gedmatch.
So it isn't problem with this average I think. You are simply similar to them the most. Why I don't know. I really think it is Vlach blood:)
I knew that your are Macedonian but I can't made up artificial report to be in line with it if most tools is telling something different.


No ofcourse. Reality is reality. I'd much rather know the truth, and i'm sure everyone here would agree. It's good that you don't go off the ethnicity of the person and make the test biased or something. Otherwise there's no point in it.

[Pubiczar]

No ofcourse. Reality is reality. I'd much rather know the truth, and i'm sure everyone here would agree. It's good that you don't go off the ethnicity of the person and make the test biased or something. Otherwise there's no point in it.

You have some Germanic or Celtic influence which I lack, and shifts you towards North-West!
That's visible also on that K36 calculator with ancient populations and here in your report where you get:

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Saarland+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,232835
2 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+North-West_Romania @ 3,308401
3 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,338462
4 IT_Bolzano+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,346696
5 Saarland+GR_Kalymnos+GR_Thrace+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,359309
6 IT_Bolzano+GR_Kalymnos+GR_Thrace+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,365414
7 Saarland+GR_Eubea+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,382274
8 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+GR_Macedonia @ 3,383821
9 Grenzmark+GR_Vlach+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea @ 3,389317
10 Thüringen+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,393015
11 FR_Brittany+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomy r @ 3,393098
12 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+Albanians_FYROM @ 3,393539
13 Grenzmark+Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos @ 3,395441
14 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Macedonia+GR_Macedonia @ 3,408196
15 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+GR_Eubea @ 3,410402
16 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+North_Albania @ 3,417817
17 Pommern+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,418141
18 Grenzmark+GR_Eubea+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,425199
19 FR_Swiss+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,429424
20 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Macedonia+Albanians_FYROM @ 3,432381
161413703 iterations.

Probably the Vlachs also have this admixture which makes you similar to them!

[DarknessWin]

You have some Germanic or Celtic influence which I lack, and shifts you towards North-West!
That's visible also on that K36 calculator with ancient populations and here in your report where you get:

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Saarland+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,232835
2 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+North-West_Romania @ 3,308401
3 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,338462
4 IT_Bolzano+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,346696
5 Saarland+GR_Kalymnos+GR_Thrace+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,359309
6 IT_Bolzano+GR_Kalymnos+GR_Thrace+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,365414
7 Saarland+GR_Eubea+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,382274
8 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+GR_Macedonia @ 3,383821
9 Grenzmark+GR_Vlach+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea @ 3,389317
10 Thüringen+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,393015
11 FR_Brittany+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomy r @ 3,393098
12 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+Albanians_FYROM @ 3,393539
13 Grenzmark+Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos @ 3,395441
14 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Macedonia+GR_Macedonia @ 3,408196
15 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+GR_Eubea @ 3,410402
16 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Eubea+North_Albania @ 3,417817
17 Pommern+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,418141
18 Grenzmark+GR_Eubea+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,425199
19 FR_Swiss+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Kalymnos+Ukraine_Zhytomyr @ 3,429424
20 Grenzmark+GR_Ipeiros+GR_Macedonia+Albanians_FYROM @ 3,432381
161413703 iterations.

Probably the Vlachs also have this admixture which makes you similar to them!

he is a greek vlach mixed with serb

[Vojnik]

he is a greek vlach mixed with serb

Haha funny.

[Dick]

Do you know any other balkan users who have done this? And what their highest correlation is?

Western_Serbians 0.8379986
Bosniaks 0.8469061
Croats_BIH 0.8847627
North-East_Romania 0.8986444
Croatia 0.9029734
Serbia 0.9407114
South-West_Romania 1.0140554
South-East_Romania 1.0612156
Montenegro 1.0686071
Slovenia 1.1267338

[Kaspias]

Do you know any other balkan users who have done this? And what their highest correlation is?

1 Pomak 0,80157
2 BLG_Turks 0,79069

The rest is Balkans and Turkey.

I have old version of report, it is correlation values. Higher is closer.

[DarknessWin]

Haha funny.

You said that your forefathers were from Buf ,
half of them actually were vlachs came from Larisa

[paradox]

Do you know any other balkan users who have done this? And what their highest correlation is?Do you mean the correlation values that are listed under the map on the report? My dad gets 0.96 to 1. His top 3 are Macedonia 0.96, Montenegro 0.95 & South East Romania 0.94. I get 0.93 to 1. Top 3 Bulgaria 0.931, GK Thessaly 0.930 & GK Peloponese 0.92.

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