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Deneb
12-02-2018, 09:28 AM
What do you think? A Hungarian squad (ETO FC Győr). Only players born in Hungary.

https://i.ibb.co/Rz1L7Qd/57217-1501447095.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/DLDjH92/63246-1501447200.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
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RenaRyuguu
12-02-2018, 09:31 AM
To me Italians especially the blonde Northern ones

archangel
12-02-2018, 09:32 AM
Italians

Blondie
12-02-2018, 09:38 AM
North Italians are closer to hungarians.

RenaRyuguu
12-02-2018, 09:39 AM
North Italians are closer to hungarians.

haha gurl I said that neat

gıulıoımpa
12-02-2018, 09:46 AM
Friulans (North east italians)

Benyzero
12-02-2018, 09:47 AM
Italians

cyberlorian
12-02-2018, 09:49 AM
Italians.

The Blade
12-02-2018, 11:24 AM
Closer to Swedes. Not many pure Mediterraneans among them while many have Baltid, Alpinid and Nordid admixture (both in this set and in general).

Cristiano viejo
12-02-2018, 11:32 AM
Closer to Swedes. Mongolism factor.

Blondie
12-02-2018, 11:37 AM
Closer to Swedes. Not many pure Mediterraneans among them while many have Baltid, Alpinid and Nordid admixture (both in this set and in general).

Yes that's true, but north italians are not really mediterranean, they have lot of german and north west european admixture:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_French_German.png

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_Northwest_European.png

Typical north italian face:

https://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/terence_hill.jpg

North italians are closer to hungarians, but swedes are closer than south italians.

GreentheViper
12-02-2018, 11:40 AM
Italians, though as other people have said, North Italians.

The Blade
12-02-2018, 11:50 AM
Yes that's true, but north italians are not really mediterranean, they have lot of german and north west european admixture:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_French_German.png

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_Northwest_European.png

Typical north italian face:

https://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/terence_hill.jpg

North italians are closer to hungarians, but swedes are closer than south italians.
They have such types which aren't rare but Italy as a whole is more distant to Hungary than is Sweden.

Blondie
12-02-2018, 11:54 AM
They have such types which aren't rare but Italy as a whole is more distant to Hungary than is Sweden.

Okay, you've convinced me :)

The Blade
12-02-2018, 12:18 PM
Okay, you've convinced me :)
Did I even have to? :)

MysteriousWays
12-02-2018, 12:57 PM
Based on these photos, Sweden by a little.

Valwar
12-02-2018, 03:43 PM
Phenotypically the people in your set are closer to Italians.

Valwar
12-02-2018, 03:45 PM
Closer to Swedes. Mongolism factor.

The people in OP's set look nothing at all like Swedes. Swedes are 100% Caucasoid as well.

Blondie
12-02-2018, 04:05 PM
The people in OP's set look nothing at all like Swedes. Swedes are 100% Caucasoid as well.

Not really, scandinavians have significant (0,5-10%) east asian admixture:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

https://img4.hvg.hu/image.aspx?id=93d8e8cb-94ac-4bbf-a73c-8a76bde7134a&view=da658e97-86c0-40f3-acd3-b0a850f32c30

She has norwegian ancestry:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_yCJiwrMK-M/maxresdefault.jpg

The Q1a2b1 mongol haplogroup is 4+ % in Sweden:

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-Q.gif

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

Valwar
12-02-2018, 05:08 PM
Not really, scandinavians have significant (0,5-10%) east asian admixture:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

https://img4.hvg.hu/image.aspx?id=93d8e8cb-94ac-4bbf-a73c-8a76bde7134a&view=da658e97-86c0-40f3-acd3-b0a850f32c30

She has norwegian ancestry:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_yCJiwrMK-M/maxresdefault.jpg

The Q1a2b1 mongol haplogroup is 4+ % in Sweden:

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-Q.gif

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

There are outliers in every ethnic group, but the typical Swedish phenotype is 100% Caucasoid. Björk almost definitely has Sami or Inuit ancestry, and you left out important information about Renee Zellweger, she has Norwegian Sami ancestry, not just Norwegian. Typical Swedish phenotype vs a Mongoloid man:

https://www.svtstatic.se/image-cms/svtse/1524558045/svts/article17791639.svt/BINARY/original/pops-jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IQZ2nu4.jpg

Joso
12-02-2018, 05:11 PM
North Italains

Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:45 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:46 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:47 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:47 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:48 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:49 PM
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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:50 PM
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magicalM
12-02-2018, 06:51 PM
North Italians.

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Hungarian_master
12-02-2018, 06:51 PM
The people in the pitcures (which I posted now) are Hungarians.

They look more similar to Swedes or Italians? What do you think?

Aspirin
12-02-2018, 07:20 PM
They look diverse. A mix of North and South European phenotypes. Some can pass easy in North Italy, even in more South parts of Italy, some can pass in Scandinavia. From what I saw, Hungarians don't have a dominant phenotype between them. This is because they was formed as a ethnicity and nation mostly in Panonia, the place where Balkans meet Germanic and Western/East Slavic world. Many of them looks like Hungarians who I meet in Transylvania. Some of them can pass easy in my country too.

Blondie
12-02-2018, 07:31 PM
They look diverse. A mix of North and South European phenotypes. Some can pass easy in North Italy, even in more South parts of Italy, some can pass in Scandinavia. From what I saw, Hungarians don't have a dominant phenotype between them. This is because they was formed as a ethnicity and nation mostly in Panonia, the place where Balkans meet Germanic and Western/East Slavic world. Many of them looks like Hungarians who I meet in Transylvania. Some of them can pass easy in my country too.

The alpinid phenotype is almost dominant.

Joso
12-02-2018, 07:54 PM
The people in the pitcures (which I posted now) are Hungarians.

They look more similar to Swedes or Italians? What do you think?

Many of them look like Germans

Regnera
12-03-2018, 02:31 AM
Italians

CommonSense
12-03-2018, 02:34 AM
Speaking of this set, most of them could pass in Italy, while only one guy I suppose could pass in Sweden.

There's your answer.

Mr.G
12-03-2018, 04:57 PM
In this set a lot of them can pass as northern Italians to my eyes.

New user
12-03-2018, 05:04 PM
Yes that's true, but north italians are not really mediterranean, they have lot of german and north west european admixture:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_French_German.png

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_Northwest_European.png

Typical north italian face:

https://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/terence_hill.jpg

North italians are closer to hungarians, but swedes are closer than south italians.

Northern Italians overlap with the Portuguese and Spaniards, they aren't Germanic. Nordic North Italians is just a meme. As for Hungarians I say neither, but closest to Germans rather.

Joso
12-03-2018, 05:33 PM
Northern Italians overlap with the Portuguese and Spaniards, they aren't Germanic. Nordic North Italians is just a meme. As for Hungarians I say neither, but closest to Germans rather.

Some north Italians are very light and look similar to southern Germans

New user
12-03-2018, 05:46 PM
Some north Italians are very light and look similar to southern Germans

Irrelevant, as a group they overlap with other Southerners. Those people you think look German, will more than likely still overlap with other Southerners. Blue eyes/light hair =/= German.