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Iloko
12-03-2018, 05:52 PM
or maybe it could be the West Asian influence found in Iberia

nittionia
12-03-2018, 06:03 PM
on actual dna test or on gedmatch calculator?

Token
12-03-2018, 06:04 PM
Never.

Iloko
12-03-2018, 06:07 PM
on actual dna test or on gedmatch calculator?
Both. I'm filipino and my minor spanish ancestry seems to show up as these ethnicities, like on the LivingDNA test for example:

https://i.imgur.com/LWkV1FW.jpg

nittionia
12-03-2018, 06:10 PM
Both. I'm filipino and my minor spanish ancestry seems to show up as these ethnicities, like on the LivingDNA test for example:


I haven't seen it happen on the actual dna test before. My Iberian ancestry has only been shown as Iberian, Sardinian, or another med island.

Iloko
12-03-2018, 06:15 PM
I haven't seen it happen on the actual dna test before. My Iberian ancestry has only been shown as Iberian, Sardinian, or another med island.
How bout on Gedmatch?

Iloko
12-03-2018, 06:21 PM
Admixture chart:

https://i.imgur.com/pCyAHKG.png

nittionia
12-03-2018, 06:22 PM
How bout on Gedmatch?

I've seen one half Iberian guy get a bit higher caucasian and balkanic in oracles... but I think it just balances his other ancestry by putting that.

Iloko
12-03-2018, 06:28 PM
I've seen one half Iberian guy get a bit higher caucasian and balkanic in oracles... but I think it just balances his other ancestry by putting that.
Interesting.. I pulled this from Eupedia.com btw:



The Basque and Catalan exceptions

The Baques are indeed somewhat different genetically from other Spaniards. They have a bit more Northwest European ancestry (inherited from Mesolithic hunter-gatherers), and completely lack Red Sea, Southwest Asian and Caucasian admixtures (see autosomal maps). The absence of Red Sea and Southwest Asian admixture indicates that the Basques do not have any Phoenician, Jewish, Greek, Roman or Arabic ancestry. Looking at maternal lineages, the Basques also stand out from the rest of the peninsula, lacking many haplogroups, be it those associated with African or Southwest Asian ancestry (HV, L, M1, U3, U6) or those linked to the original Indo-European homeland in Eastern Europe (H2a1, H4, H7, H8, H11, H15, I, T1a1a1, U2, U4, W). They make up for it with higher frequencies of Mesolithic and Neolithic lineages (H1, H2a2a, H3, H5a3, J2a1a, J1c, K1a, T2, U5, V and X). This is in perfect agreement with the fact that Basque language is non-Indo-European. What generally comes as a surprise is that 85% of Basque paternal lineages belong to the Proto-Celtic R1b-P312. This can be explained by the fast replacement of male lineages due to warfare with neighbouring Proto-Celts and the establishment of a Celtic ruling class who quickly spread their Y-DNA through polygamy.

Interestingly the Catalans also lack the Southwest Asian ancestry, but do have some Red Sea and Caucasian genes. The Southwest Asian admixture is slightly more common in southern Portugal and Andalusia, which is consistent with the higher historical presence of Phoenician, Roman and Arabic people in that region. The Basques and the Catalans are the only Western European completely lacking genetic contribution from Southwest Asia. This is also translated in an extreme scarcity of Y-haplogroups J1, E-M34 and T, which are all typically Southwest Asian linages.

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml So there does appear to be a lil West Asian influence in Iberia

Damiăo de Góis
12-03-2018, 09:01 PM
That Eupedia quote is wrong on several accounts. Catalans score Southwest Asian and it's not more common in Southern Portugal than in the rest of Iberia, for one they don't have a southern portuguese sample to conclude that, and also for what it's worth i score very low. Also going by Dodecad k12b, the region where it's highest it's Galicia with 5.4% while Andalucia socres 3.2%.

So yeah, looks like that was written from memory. But the memory wasn't very good.