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Sikeliot
12-03-2018, 09:23 PM
Coolguy1/Sorcelow?

Messina:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.3
2 Atlantic_Med 30.38
3 Southwest_Asian 10.91
4 North_European 7.59
5 Gedrosia 5.5
6 Northwest_African 4.03
7 East_African 0.97
8 Siberian 0.95
9 Sub_Saharan 0.35


Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.98
2 Atlantic_Med 27.15
3 North_European 14.57
4 Southwest_Asian 12.86
5 Gedrosia 6.85
6 Northwest_African 4.68
7 East_African 1.04
8 Sub_Saharan 0.43
9 Siberian 0.43


Palermo:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.52
2 Atlantic_Med 23.86
3 North_European 16.11
4 Southwest_Asian 12.92
5 Gedrosia 5.37
6 Northwest_African 4.25
7 East_African 0.83
8 South_Asian 0.48
9 Southeast_Asian 0.46
10 Sub_Saharan 0.2


Ragusa:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.62
2 Atlantic_Med 27.36
3 North_European 16.2
4 Southwest_Asian 12.93
5 Gedrosia 8.57
6 Northwest_African 4.59
7 Sub_Saharan 0.59
8 South_Asian 0.57
9 Siberian 0.57


Catania:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35
2 Atlantic_Med 24.85
3 Southwest_Asian 14.03
4 North_European 13.89
5 Gedrosia 5.91
6 Northwest_African 5
7 Southeast_Asian 0.69
8 East_African 0.61
9 East_Asian 0.01


Achaea, Peloponnese:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.73
2 Atlantic_Med 28.31
3 North_European 22.63
4 Southwest_Asian 7.99
5 Gedrosia 5.96
6 Northwest_African 1.5
7 East_Asian 0.72
8 East_African 0.16


Epirus:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.47
2 Atlantic_Med 28.75
3 North_European 24.26
4 Southwest_Asian 7.68
5 Gedrosia 2.93
6 Northwest_African 1.91
7 East_Asian 1


Chios, North Aegean:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.86
2 Atlantic_Med 23.77
3 North_European 17.04
4 Southwest_Asian 11.81
5 Gedrosia 8.14
6 Northwest_African 0.38


Andros, Cyclades:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.04
2 Atlantic_Med 26.63
3 North_European 15.27
4 Southwest_Asian 11.56
5 Gedrosia 6.32
6 Northwest_African 4.43
7 East_Asian 0.57
8 Siberian 0.19


Rhodes, Dodecanese:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.25
2 Atlantic_Med 23.73
3 Southwest_Asian 15.06
4 North_European 12.68
5 Gedrosia 7.62
6 Northwest_African 2.3
7 South_Asian 1.01
8 East_Asian 0.34

Sikeliot
12-04-2018, 06:05 PM
Bump

Coolguy1
12-06-2018, 02:24 AM
Ill give you the averages for each Sicilian region

[1] "distance%=1.8519 / distance=0.018519"

Sicily_Palermo (N=8)

Hypothetical_Classical2 79.80
Algerian (N=2) 10.35
Samaritan (N=2) 9.85
Armenian_West 0.00

[1] "distance%=1.2241 / distance=0.012241"

Sicilian_Ragusa (N=7)

Hypothetical_Classical2 87.30
Algerian (N=2) 10.85
Samaritan (N=2) 1.85

[1] "distance%=2.1965 / distance=0.021965"

Sicily_Caltanisetta (N=4)

Hypothetical_Classical2 80.80
Algerian (N=2) 10.25
Samaritan (N=2) 8.95

[1] "distance%=1.832 / distance=0.01832"

Achaia1

Hypothetical_Classical2 84.8
Belorussian (N=3) 15.2
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.0
Russian_South (N=4) 0.0
Pole (N=7) 0.0

[1] "distance%=2.4855 / distance=0.024855"

Greek_Chios (N=4)

Hypothetical_Classical2 57.0
Armenian_West 29.1
Russian_South (N=4) 13.8
Belorussian (N=3) 0.0
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.0
Pole (N=7) 0.0

[1] "distance%=3.0097 / distance=0.030097"

Andros1

Hypothetical_Classical2 92.35
Samaritan (N=2) 7.65

Sikeliot
12-06-2018, 02:29 AM
Ill give you the averages for each Sicilian region

[1] "distance%=1.8519 / distance=0.018519"

Sicily_Palermo (N=8)

Hypothetical_Classical2 79.80
Algerian (N=2) 10.35
Samaritan (N=2) 9.85
Armenian_West 0.00

[1] "distance%=1.2241 / distance=0.012241"

Sicilian_Ragusa (N=7)

Hypothetical_Classical2 87.30
Algerian (N=2) 10.85
Samaritan (N=2) 1.85

[1] "distance%=2.1965 / distance=0.021965"

Sicily_Caltanisetta (N=4)

Hypothetical_Classical2 80.80
Algerian (N=2) 10.25
Samaritan (N=2) 8.95

[1] "distance%=1.832 / distance=0.01832"

Achaia1

Hypothetical_Classical2 84.8
Belorussian (N=3) 15.2
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.0
Russian_South (N=4) 0.0
Pole (N=7) 0.0

[1] "distance%=2.4855 / distance=0.024855"

Greek_Chios (N=4)

Hypothetical_Classical2 57.0
Armenian_West 29.1
Russian_South (N=4) 13.8
Belorussian (N=3) 0.0
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.0
Pole (N=7) 0.0

[1] "distance%=3.0097 / distance=0.030097"

Andros1

Hypothetical_Classical2 92.35
Samaritan (N=2) 7.65

Looks like Palermo/Caltanissetta both have around 80% aboriginal, 20% post-Neolithic MENA, while Ragusa and Andros are less MENA than this, and Chios is both impacted by a Slavic-like component on equal level to Achaea, but more Caucasus-shifted than the rest.

nightrider+
12-06-2018, 03:12 AM
Wtf is hypothetical classical?

Coolguy1
12-06-2018, 03:45 AM
Wtf is hypothetical classical?

75% Minoan 25% Yamnaya

Sikeliot
12-06-2018, 03:46 AM
Based on what you have done, Palermo, Agrigento and Caltanissetta are all 80% or so "classical" and 20% MENA. I should send you Messina/Catania, it is the only un-sampled part of Sicily.

nightrider+
12-06-2018, 03:47 AM
75% Minoan 25% YamnayaAnd what if you use Mycenaean?

Coolguy1
12-06-2018, 03:49 AM
And what if you use Mycenaean?

I get similar results, but the Mycenaean samples are of lower quality and are more erratic.

nightrider+
12-06-2018, 03:53 AM
I get similar results, but the Mycenaean samples are of lower quality and are more erratic.Last question. Do you have data for any other east Aegean island? Or Crete?

Tauromachos
12-06-2018, 03:56 AM
And what if you use Mycenaean?

Mycanaean is basicly Minoan with some extra Steppe

Coolguy1
12-06-2018, 04:00 AM
Last question. Do you have data for any other east Aegean island? Or Crete?

To put it into perspective for you,

[1] "distance%=2.6291 / distance=0.026291"

Greek_Crete (N=8)

Hypothetical_Classical2 81.5
Samaritan (N=2) 18.6

[1] "distance%=1.6754 / distance=0.016754"

Greek_Kythera (N=2)

Hypothetical_Classical2 83.8
Samaritan (N=2) 16.2

[1] "distance%=2.6786 / distance=0.026786"

Deep_Mani_M951669

Hypothetical_Classical2 97.1
Russian_South (N=4) 2.9

[1] "distance%=1.026 / distance=0.01026"

Greek_Thessaly (N=9)

Hypothetical_Classical2 77.85
Belorussian (N=3) 14.45
Russian_South (N=4) 4.75
Pole (N=7) 2.95
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.00

nightrider+
12-06-2018, 04:06 AM
Mycanaean is basicly Minoan with some extra SteppeWait for the new study coming soon, it might end up being Anatolia Neolithic + Armenia Bronze Age.

Sikeliot
12-06-2018, 11:14 AM
To put it into perspective for you,

[1] "distance%=2.6291 / distance=0.026291"

Greek_Crete (N=8)

Hypothetical_Classical2 81.5
Samaritan (N=2) 18.6

[1] "distance%=1.6754 / distance=0.016754"

Greek_Kythera (N=2)

Hypothetical_Classical2 83.8
Samaritan (N=2) 16.2

[1] "distance%=2.6786 / distance=0.026786"

Deep_Mani_M951669

Hypothetical_Classical2 97.1
Russian_South (N=4) 2.9

[1] "distance%=1.026 / distance=0.01026"

Greek_Thessaly (N=9)

Hypothetical_Classical2 77.85
Belorussian (N=3) 14.45
Russian_South (N=4) 4.75
Pole (N=7) 2.95
Eastern_Ukraine (N=2) 0.00

Crete = Sicily without North African.

Mani is close to Apulia.