View Full Version : Iberians' similarities to British/Irish is due to NW European in Iberia not the reverse
Sikeliot
12-04-2018, 11:52 AM
When will people get this through their heads?
It is absolutely not that Brits/Irish are Mediterranean. It is that Iberians don't plot near Sicilians, Cretans, etc. and are actually shifted toward NW Europe.
This means Iberians are "Irish like" or "British like" NOT the reverse.
Vasconcelos
12-04-2018, 11:59 AM
It doesn't really matter, does it? Iberians and SW Europeans in general are different from SE Europeans because they have a much smaller chunk of east Mediterranean-related ancestry, that alone woul be enough to cause a shift in any analysis. We're not really that similar to NW Europeans either, clearly
Tooting Carmen
12-04-2018, 12:25 PM
It doesn't really matter, does it? Iberians and SW Europeans in general are different from SE Europeans because they have a much smaller chunk of east Mediterranean-related ancestry, that alone woul be enough to cause a shift in any analysis. We're not really that similar to NW Europeans either, clearly
Yes, Iberians may be more Western European than Italians, Greeks and Balkan people, but they are not dramatically more Northern Euro than them.
Fantomas
12-04-2018, 12:46 PM
Yes, Iberians may be more Western European than Italians, Greeks and Balkan people, but they are not dramatically more Northern Euro than them.
Here you can see this Western ancestry of Brits in greater detail. Northern admixture is obviously later in time and linked with historical Germanic migrations
https://i.imgur.com/ITqQdvl.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/YYlt9fX.png
Erronkari
12-04-2018, 12:55 PM
Indeed which is weird, genetically talking iberians almost match with north-italians, while south italians are genetically far of northern ones.
guezet
12-04-2018, 01:03 PM
Yes, Iberians may be more Western European than Italians, Greeks and Balkan people, but they are not dramatically more Northern Euro than them.
Yes, more Western rather than more Northern Euro.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dMDUmT5.jpg
Bellbeaking
01-24-2019, 05:05 PM
Here you can see this Western ancestry of Brits in gter detail. Northern admixture is obviously later in time and linked with historical Germanic migrations
https://i.imgur.com/ITqQdvl.jpg[/com/YYlt9fX.png
If they had included Dutch in that, much of the french and belgian would have gone away
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-24-2019, 05:17 PM
It is absolutely not that Brits/Irish are Mediterranean. It is that Iberians don't plot near Sicilians, Cretans, etc. and are actually shifted toward NW Europe.
Why should Iberians plot near Sicilians and Cretan (very specific regions...) if we don't even plot with mainland Italians and Greeks?
Iberians overlap with southern french and north italians.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-24-2019, 05:24 PM
Yes, Iberians may be more Western European than Italians, Greeks and Balkan people, but they are not dramatically more Northern Euro than them.
Depends on what "dramatic" means to you.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/98/bb/8f98bb49d70cd5bdb6c168440d12c4d1.gif
Sebastianus Rex
01-24-2019, 05:43 PM
We are not similar to Brits, this nonsense has to stop.
Bellbeaking
01-24-2019, 05:49 PM
We are not similar to Brits, this nonsense has to stop.
but stephen oppenheimer proved it with y-dna back in 2006. British are Iberians!
the user bloody on here also understands this, he knows brits are iberians based off his perception of hair colour.
lonewolfcypriot
01-24-2019, 06:04 PM
I've heard that where Spanish lack in East med admixture they compensate in Moorish admixture ;)
Morena
01-24-2019, 06:26 PM
When will people get this through their heads?
It is absolutely not that Brits/Irish are Mediterranean. It is that Iberians don't plot near Sicilians, Cretans, etc. and are actually shifted toward NW Europe.
This means Iberians are "Irish like" or "British like" NOT the reverse.
Didn't you make a thread about this a while ago?
PT Tagus
01-24-2019, 06:34 PM
We are not similar to Brits, this nonsense has to stop.
As you can see, I'm similar to Brits. (chestnut hair and pale skin) xD
In summer, I'm similar to Moors. xD
Bellbeaking
01-24-2019, 08:34 PM
As you can see, I'm similar to Brits. (chestnut hair and pale skin) xD
In summer, I'm similar to Moors. xD
you are a lovely and handsome soft boy
Token
01-24-2019, 08:39 PM
As you can see, I'm similar to Brits. (chestnut hair and pale skin) xD
In summer, I'm similar to Moors. xD
You look so Portuguese that it hurts.
alnortedelsur
01-26-2019, 11:35 PM
but stephen oppenheimer proved it with y-dna back in 2006. British are Iberians!
the user bloody on here also understands this, he knows brits are iberians based off his perception of hair colour.
That study is only based on halogroups. Old and outdated study.
Bellbeaking
02-01-2019, 06:04 PM
That study is only based on halogroups. Old and outdated study.
that seems to offend a lot of people, many have trouble with the idea of British and Irish as North Europeans. It upsets them
Vasconcelos
02-02-2019, 07:05 PM
that seems to offend a lot of people, many have trouble with the idea of British and Irish as North Europeans. It upsets them
It offends intelligence more than anything else
alnortedelsur
02-04-2019, 08:17 PM
that seems to offend a lot of people, many have trouble with the idea of British and Irish as North Europeans. It upsets them
I see them more as Northwest European xD
Tooting Carmen
02-04-2019, 08:23 PM
I see them more as Northwest European xD
Actually, I agree that British and Irish people are noticeably more brunette as a whole than Scandinavians, Dutch and even most Germans. Their features are a bit different too.
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