Results from a fishing village in the Azores w/photos.

[FilhoV]

Below are the results of a man from the fishing village of Rabo de Peixe on the island of São Miguel.

Rabo de Peixe I should note is definitely the most densely populated parish on the island and also has a reputation of being the poorest parish on the island.

Below also his photos and his MyHeritageDNA results


https://i.imgur.com/nHyqYqy.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/st1U26k

Should note these photos were taken during the summer so he is quite tanned more than usual



Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.11
2 West_Med 26.26
3 East_Med 14.35
4 Baltic 9.33
5 Red_Sea 5.06
6 Sub-Saharan 4.03
7 Northeast_African 3.07
8 West_Asian 2.97
9 East_Asian 0.53
10 Siberian 0.22
11 Oceanian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 5.46
2 Portuguese 6.03
3 Spanish_Galicia 6.52
4 Spanish_Murcia 7.05
5 Spanish_Andalucia 7.43
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.48
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.35
8 Spanish_Valencia 8.5
9 North_Italian 8.82
10 Spanish_Cataluna 8.97
11 Spanish_Cantabria 9.82
12 Spanish_Aragon 11.12
13 Southwest_French 12.14
14 Tuscan 13.22
15 French 13.94
16 West_Sicilian 18.78
17 West_German 19.59
18 South_Dutch 19.7
19 Italian_Abruzzo 20
20 Greek_Thessaly 20.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% Spanish_Cataluna + 23% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.1
2 75.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.1% Tunisian @ 2.31
3 77.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 22.6% Moroccan @ 2.32
4 75.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.8% Algerian @ 2.39
5 80.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 19.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.4
6 85.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 14.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.41
7 75.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.46
8 82.9% Spanish_Galicia + 17.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.53
9 84.2% Portuguese + 15.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.56
10 85.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 14.1% Algerian @ 2.68
11 77.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 22.8% Algerian @ 2.69
12 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% San @ 2.75
13 93.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 6.1% Sandawe @ 2.75
14 86.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 13.5% Tunisian @ 2.75
15 83.6% Spanish_Galicia + 16.4% Tunisian @ 2.77
16 83% Spanish_Galicia + 17% Algerian @ 2.78
17 86.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 13.7% Moroccan @ 2.78
18 81.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 18.8% Tunisian @ 2.78
19 95% Spanish_Extremadura + 5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.82
20 80.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 19.3% Algerian @ 2.82


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.05
2 West_Med 22
3 North_Sea 16.67
4 East_Med 11.85
5 Red_Sea 5.42
6 Baltic 4.29
7 Sub-Saharan 4
8 Eastern_Euro 3.41
9 Northeast_African 3.05
10 West_Asian 1.78
11 Southeast_Asian 0.47
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 5.36
2 Spanish_Murcia 6.26
3 Portuguese 6.43
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.99
5 Spanish_Andalucia 7.1
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.9
7 Spanish_Galicia 7.91
8 Spanish_Valencia 8.13
9 Spanish_Cataluna 8.45
10 Spanish_Cantabria 8.96
11 North_Italian 9.16
12 Spanish_Aragon 9.61
13 Southwest_French 11
14 Tuscan 13.61
15 French 14.62
16 West_Sicilian 18.42
17 South_Dutch 19.07
18 French_Basque 19.11
19 Serbian 19.61
20 Italian_Abruzzo 20.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.3% Tunisian @ 2.12
2 75.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.4% Algerian @ 2.26
3 76.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.37
4 84.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 15.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.48
5 82.4% Spanish_Murcia + 17.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.6
6 75.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 24.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.67
7 80.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 19.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.68
8 85.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 14.2% Tunisian @ 2.91
9 85.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 14.1% Algerian @ 3.02
10 78.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 21.4% Algerian @ 3.03
11 86.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 13.7% Moroccan @ 3.09
12 83.6% Spanish_Murcia + 16.4% Moroccan @ 3.13
13 95.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.14
14 77.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 22.1% Moroccan @ 3.14
15 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% San @ 3.15
16 81.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 18.7% Tunisian @ 3.16
17 95.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.18
18 95.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.3% Luhya @ 3.19
19 83.3% Spanish_Murcia + 16.7% Algerian @ 3.2
20 81.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 18.8% Algerian @ 3.22



Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.45
Armenian 1.49
Basque 4.54
Central_African 0.66
Central_Euro 7.21
East_African 0.68
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 1.97
Eastern_Euro 0.91
Fennoscandian 1.68
French 0.43
Iberian 25.20
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.20
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.26
North_African 7.00
North_Atlantic 6.66
North_Caucasian 0.10
North_Sea 8.08
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 1.03
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 2.18
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 9.27




Dodecad K7b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 53.91
2 Southern 30.02
3 West_Asian 9.23
4 African 6.33
5 Siberian 0.51
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Canarias (1000Genomes) 5.5
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 7.65
3 Murcia (1000Genomes) 7.92
4 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 8.44
5 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 8.74
6 Galicia (1000Genomes) 8.74
7 Baleares (1000Genomes) 9.06
8 North_Italian (HGDP) 9.09
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 10.05
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 10.14
11 Spaniards (Behar) 10.71
12 Spanish (Dodecad) 10.72
13 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 10.83
14 Valencia (1000Genomes) 12.37
15 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.4
16 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.85
17 Aragon (1000Genomes) 12.9
18 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 13.19
19 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 13.47
20 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% French (HGDP) + 33.4% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 0.88
2 62.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.7% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 1
3 89.6% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 10.4% Somali (Dodecad) @ 1.74
4 70.8% French (HGDP) + 29.2% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1.87
5 71% French (HGDP) + 29% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 2.13
6 91.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 8.3% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 2.18
7 88.9% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 11.1% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.19
8 88.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 11.3% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 2.22
9 86.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 13.2% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 2.23
10 67.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 32.4% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 2.27
11 89.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 10.5% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 2.38
12 87% Spaniards (Behar) + 13% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.41
13 92.1% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 7.9% Sandawe (Henn) @ 2.41
14 59.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 40.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.45
15 89.7% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 10.3% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.47
16 58.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 41.1% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.51
17 58.3% Kent (1000Genomes) + 41.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.55
18 58.6% German (Dodecad) + 41.4% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
19 58.1% English (Dodecad) + 41.9% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.63
20 54.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 45.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) @

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 34.88
2 Caucasian 20.02
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.79
4 North_African 9.38
5 Near_East 5.28
6 Subsaharian 3.64
7 South_Central_Asian 2.7
8 Archaic_African 1.61
9 Ancestral_Altaic 1.56
10 East_Siberian 0.86
11 East_African 0.17
12 Australoid 0.1
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portugese ( ) 5.61
2 French ( ) 9.43
3 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 10.85
4 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 10.85
5 Spaniard ( ) 10.86
6 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 11.26
7 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 11.3
8 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 11.54
9 Welsh ( ) 11.56
10 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 11.76
11 CEU ( ) 12.04
12 North_European ( ) 12.08
13 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 12.23
14 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 12.23
15 English ( ) 12.33
16 British ( ) 12.34
17 Belgian ( ) 12.97
18 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) 13.01
19 Irish ( ) 13.91
20 Frisian ( ) 14.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Portugese ( ) + 11.4% Egyptian_Iskandaria ( ) @ 2.96
2 79.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 20.5% Algerian ( ) @ 3.3
3 90.5% Portugese ( ) + 9.5% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 3.47
4 90.9% Portugese ( ) + 9.1% Yemen ( ) @ 3.49
5 90.3% Portugese ( ) + 9.7% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 3.53
6 90.4% Portugese ( ) + 9.6% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 3.55
7 90.4% Portugese ( ) + 9.6% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 3.58
8 90.3% Portugese ( ) + 9.7% Jordanian ( ) @ 3.59
9 90.2% Portugese ( ) + 9.8% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 3.6
10 90.9% Portugese ( ) + 9.1% BedouinA ( ) @ 3.65
11 89.9% Portugese ( ) + 10.1% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 3.67
12 82.3% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 17.7% Moroccan ( ) @ 3.67
13 79.3% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 20.7% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.76
14 86% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 14% Saharawi ( ) @ 3.85
15 78.9% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 21.1% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.88
16 93.1% Portugese ( ) + 6.9% Yemenite_Jew ( ) @ 3.89
17 91.7% Portugese ( ) + 8.3% Palestinian ( ) @ 3.91
18 82.8% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 17.2% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.92
19 93% Portugese ( ) + 7% Saudi ( )

[FilhoV]

https://youtu.be/_vUm4wOU1kE

[Lucas]

Cool results and sginificant. If Canarians also settled on Azores?

[FilhoV]

Cool results and sginificant. If Canarians also settled on Azores?

In this particular fishing village I would say so

Many of these settlers also were responsible for manning the tea plantations (Chá do Porto Famoso and Chá Gorreana) it wasnt until the closing that they settled as fisherman and whale hunters in Rabo de Peixe which is far from Ponta Delgada especially the days before vehicles

Rabo de Peixe is a very closed off parish imo compared to the rest of the island

[Leto]

Obviously some extra African admixture. He's like 6-7% black.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Obviously some extra African admixture. He's like 6-7% black.

native north africans are white people

[Leto]

native north africans are white people
The components I mean are not Caucasoid. SSA and NE African. Dude, you are a new member and we've been at it for a few years. :)

[Sebastianus Rex]

In this particular fishing village I would say so

Many of these settlers also were responsible for manning the tea plantations (Chá do Porto Famoso and Chá Gorreana) it wasnt until the closing that they settled as fisherman and whale hunters in Rabo de Peixe which is far from Ponta Delgada especially the days before vehicles

Rabo de Peixe is a very closed off parish imo compared to the rest of the island


Obviously some extra African admixture. He's like 6-7% black.

Rabo de Peixe is a very peculiar town with a huge fishing community, historically rather isolated and poor and with the most harcore accent of all Portuguese speaking territory. The town has a bad reputation and the habitants are considered like kind of gypsies by other Azoreans.

I'm not surprised by those results given that many of the people in Rabo the Peixe look clearly mixed and overall the town gives a vibe of a south american favela:

https://www.aggm.pt/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/RABO-DE-PEIXE-AZORES-780x405.jpg

https://ilhasemrede.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/sam_0160.jpg

https://www.acorianooriental.pt/images/articleframe/8429.jpg

http://aciportugal.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/foto_2-e1448531456979-1024x414.jpg

[Leto]

Rabo de Peixe is a very peculiar town with a huge fishing community, historically rather isolated and poor and with the most harcore accent of all Portuguese speaking territory. The town has a bad reputation and the habitants are considered like kind of gypsies by other Azoreans.

I'm not surprised by those results given that many of the people in Rabo the Peixe look clearly mixed and overall the town gives a vibe of a south american favela:

I've seen some photos of the Azores, very beautiful places. Maybe that one is an exception.

[FilhoV]

K
Rabo de Peixe is a very peculiar town with a huge fishing community, historically rather isolated and poor and with the most harcore accent of all Portuguese speaking territory. The town has a bad reputation and the habitants are considered like kind of gypsies by other Azoreans.

I'm not surprised by those results given that many of the people in Rabo the Peixe look clearly mixed and overall the town gives a vibe of a south american favela:

https://www.aggm.pt/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/RABO-DE-PEIXE-AZORES-780x405.jpg

https://ilhasemrede.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/sam_0160.jpg

https://www.acorianooriental.pt/images/articleframe/8429.jpg

http://aciportugal.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/foto_2-e1448531456979-1024x414.jpg

in Rabo de Peixe his results are what I would expect to be honest definitely on the more exotic of sides in terms of dna the raw data is an AncestryDNA file

Also Rabo de Peixe has been seeing developing by the government and the EU

[Kamal900]

native north africans are white people

Caucasoid, yes. Whites? Nope.

[FilhoV]

This is also a typical Rabo de Peixe guy even his accent is stereotypical

https://youtu.be/dr6fcJU_cYs

[FilhoV]

Cool results and sginificant. If Canarians also settled on Azores?

That’s his k36 if you are interested in his nMonte

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.45
Armenian 1.49
Basque 4.54
Central_African 0.66
Central_Euro 7.21
East_African 0.68
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 1.97
Eastern_Euro 0.91
Fennoscandian 1.68
French 0.43
Iberian 25.20
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.20
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.26
North_African 7.00
North_Atlantic 6.66
North_Caucasian 0.10
North_Sea 8.08
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 1.03
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 2.18
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 9.27

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Caucasoid, yes. Whites? Nope.

its the same for me

[Leto]

its the same for me
It's not, Muslim Africans cannot be white by definition. Not to mention they usually don't have white skin to begin with.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It's not, Muslim Africans cannot be white by definition. Not to mention they usually don't have white skin to begin with.

what has religion with race, are chinese christians white ? in south most people are tanned, go to spain or greece in summer and check it. even many swedes and germans tan like crazy in solarium

[Leto]

what has religion with race, are chinese christians white ? in south most people are tanned, go to spain or greece in summer and check it. even many swedes and germans tan like crazy in solarium
White means European, especially Romance-Germanic Catholic-Protestant nations. The Muslims are not part of Western or even European civilization. And you're not gonna tell me Maghrebis are genetically and culturally European, are you?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

White means European, especially Romance-Germanic Catholic-Protestant nations. The Muslims are not part of Western or even European civilization. And you're not gonna tell me Maghrebis are genetically and culturally European, are you?

i just equal white with caucasoid, not with european. there whites outside europe and all europeans arent fully white

[Leto]

i just equal white with caucasoid, not with european. there whites outside europe and all europeans arent fully white
Okay, that's your opinion. However, it's funny because you just in another thread attacked Bosniensis calling him a Turk that doesn't belong in Europe. You do realize Bosnians are originally South Slavic, just Islamicized. They are an exception together with Albanians (not all were Islamicized though).

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Okay, that's your opinion. However, it's funny because you just in another thread attacked Bosniensis calling him a Turk that doesn't belong in Europe. You do realize Bosnians are originally South Slavic, just Islamicized. They are an exception together with Albanians (not all were Islamicized though).

he insulted me out of blue. many of them are turks mentally and support jihad against christians, some are probably turkish mixed too.

[Catarinense1998]

This is also a typical Rabo de Peixe guy even his accent is stereotypical

https://youtu.be/dr6fcJU_cYs

Este sotaque soa muito estranho para mim. Não consegui entender muita coisa.

[Leto]

many of them are turks mentally and support jihad against christians, some are probably turkish mixed too.
Yes, because they don't feel they are part of European civilization, they show solidarity with other Muslims. Just like in Russia many Tatars look European and a sizeable number of North Caucasians too but they don't identify with white Europeans, they identify with Turks and Muslims (or simply with themselves).

[Sebastianus Rex]

I've seen some photos of the Azores, very beautiful places. Maybe that one is an exception.

Yes the beauty of the Azores is magnificent, especially for those who apreciate natural landscapes and ocean life.

The town of Rabo de Peixe in the northern coast of São Miguel island is like the local ghetto.


K

in Rabo de Peixe his results are what I would expect to be honest definitely on the more exotic of sides in terms of dna the raw data is an AncestryDNA file

Also Rabo de Peixe has been seeing developing by the government and the EU

From time to time we see on national media some news about Rabo de Peixe, it's usually negative stuff like the cases of families who sold their own children to richer families who wanted to adopt. Sometimes it's on the more comical side related to the peculiar accent of the town wich is almost a dialect on its own, even hard to understand for other Azoreans and not understandable at all for mainland Portuguese. I have always noticed that many locals of Rabo de Peixe looked like gypsies, what makes me think that was colonized by gypsies who with time lost their gypsy identity.

The deportation of gypsies to the colonies was widely practiced until the 19th century to get them out of the mainland because of conflicts with the rest of the population and to dilute them from their gypsy identity. Full gypsies could not even become Portuguese citizens until 1820. Perhaps Rabo de Peixe is one of those pockets that received a significant number of those deported gypsies who ended up mixing etc.

It's speculative of me, since I dont know in detail about the colonial history of the town but crossing some facts it's a logic possibility.

[FilhoV]

Yes the beauty of the Azores is magnificent, especially for those who apreciate natural landscapes and ocean life.

The town of Rabo de Peixe in the northern coast of São Miguel island is like the local ghetto.



From time to time we see on national media some news about Rabo de Peixe, it's usually negative stuff like the cases of families who sold their own children to richer families who wanted to adopt. Sometimes it's on the more comical side related to the peculiar accent of the town wich is almost a dialect on its own, even hard to understand for other Azoreans and not understandable at all for mainland Portuguese. I have always noticed that many locals of Rabo de Peixe looked like gypsies, what makes me think that was colonized by gypsies who with time lost their gypsy identity.

The deportation of gypsies to the colonies was widely practiced until the 19th century to get them out of the mainland because of conflicts with the rest of the population and to dilute them from their gypsy identity. Full gypsies could not even become Portuguese citizens until 1820. Perhaps Rabo de Peixe is one of those pockets that received a significant number of those deported gypsies who ended up mixing etc.

It's speculative of me, since I dont know in detail about the colonial history of the town but crossing some facts it's a logic possibility.

The Cigano community is entirely located in downtown Ponta Delgada there neighborhood is ironically behind the São Miguel prison and is in my opinion no more than 200 people.

Rabo de Peixe residents have results like the OP Imo

Also it should be noted that Rabo de Peixe is also cleaning up and is beginning to look like the rest of the island they just set up a new public pool and water park

[Sebastianus Rex]

The Cigano community is entirely located in downtown Ponta Delgada there neighborhood is ironically behind the São Miguel prison and is in my opinion no more than 200 people.

Rabo de Peixe residents have results like the OP Imo

Also it should be noted that Rabo de Peixe is also cleaning up and is beginning to look like the rest of the island they just set up a new public pool and water park

I don't know man, there's also normal looking people in Rabo de Peixe, but many look like gypsies or mixed, genetic tests are still to few to draw conclusions. The OP looks like a Brazilian pardo or north African, clearly beyond the exotic spectrum of the Portuguese population.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcFjN_pK4Wo


First thing that comes to my mind when someone mentions Rabo de Peixe.