French Bretons on Gedmatch

[Token]

Central Britanny

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 31.65
2 NorthEastEuropean 25.25
3 Steppe 24.18
4 Caucasian 16.02
5 Australian 1.24
6 EastAfrican 0.75
7 Indian 0.47
8 NorthAfrican 0.45

Using 1 population approximation:
1 English_Kent @ 1.965003
2 English_Cornwall @ 3.323384
3 Irish_Connacht @ 3.679815
4 French_WestFrance @ 3.988474
5 French_France @ 4.065972

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent +50% English_Kent @ 1.965003


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent +25% English_Kent +25% French_France @ 1.652419


Northwestern Brittany

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 29.82
2 Steppe 25.46
3 NorthEastEuropean 24.60
4 Caucasian 18.15.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.220825
2 English @ 3.708408
3 English @ 3.802596
4 Irish @ 3.833472
5 Scottish @ 3.967541

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Scottish @ 2.760786

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +25% Scottish +25% Spanish @ 2.685945

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 2.415579

Central Britanny

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 29.98
2 NorthEastEuropean 26.65
3 Steppe 25.17
4 Caucasian 15.22
5 NearEast 1.52
6 Amerindian 1.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 English (Kent) 2.59
2 English (Cornwall) 2.96
3 Irish (Connacht) 3.2
4 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 3.24
5 Irish (Ulster) 3.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 7% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 1.94

Northwestern Britanny

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 28.65
2 Steppe 26.00
3 NorthEastEuropean 24.46
4 Caucasian 19.31
5 Arctic 1.13


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish_Connacht @ 4.187612
2 Scottish_Grampian @ 4.481524
3 Irish_Munster @ 4.536026
4 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 4.608944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_Germany +50% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.843938


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish_Argyll_bute +25% Scottish_Argyll_bute +25% Serbian_Serbia @ 3.750373


Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Italian_Bergamo + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.122383
2 Italian_Tuscany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.248737

[J. Ketch]

What about K13 or K15? Find it hard to believe that they'd be closest to Irish.

[Token]

What about K13 or K15? Find it hard to believe that they'd be closest to Irish.

Why not? The oracles are in conformity with the Irish DNA Atlas. I don't have their kits, these results were posted by users on Anthrogenica.

[Grace O'Malley]

Bretons share more IBD with Irish than other French regions. Bretons have a lot of ancestry from Britain and Cornish went their in the 5th Century. Breton language is most similar to Cornish.

https://media.springernature.com/m685/nature-assets/ejhg/journal/v23/n6/images/ejhg2014175f3.jpg

[J. Ketch]

Why not? The oracles are in conformity with the Irish DNA Atlas. I don't have their kits, these results were posted by users on Anthrogenica.
From everything I've seen they're closest to Cornishmen and SW English, if not other French. They're too Southern shifted to be close to the average Irish.

[Token]

Bretons share more IBD with Irish than other French regions. Bretons have a lot of ancestry from Britain and Cornish went their in the 5th Century. Breton language is most similar to Cornish.

https://media.springernature.com/m685/nature-assets/ejhg/journal/v23/n6/images/ejhg2014175f3.jpg

Based on IBD, they seems to have less Germanic admixture than other Frenchmen too. Normandy have the most out of these, as expected.

[Grace O'Malley]

Based on IBD, they seems to have less Germanic admixture than other Frenchmen too. Normandy have the most out of these, as expected.

Normandy is closest to English but only very slighty more than Ireland. Brittany is the closest to Irish and the least closest to Spain and Italy than any French region. J. Ketch is correct though that they are closer to Cornish and SW English than the Irish. I think the K13 and K15 shows this better.

[J. Ketch]

Placing of a Breton from Anthrogenica in G25, the blue cross.

https://i.postimg.cc/nLcnMCxK/G25-Trelvern.png

[Token]

From everything I've seen they're closest to Cornishmen and SW English, if not other French. They're too Southern shifted to be close to the average Irish.

All Northwestern Europeans are pretty close to each other anyway, from France to Norway. The difference between two Brits from different regions is very tiny.

[Sikeliot]

They don't appear to be too divergent from any British or Irish group.

[FilhoV]

French Breton using Global25


The population references
East Mediterranean = Cypriot
West Mediterranean = Sardinian
North Sea = Dutch
Atlantic = Basque
Baltic = Latvian
Siberian = Nganasan
North Africa = Tunisian
Sub-Sahara = Yoruba





"distance%=1.4877"

French_Breton_Scaled

North_Sea,82.4
Atlantic,14
West_Mediterranean,2.4
East_Mediterranean,1.2

[Leto]

@Ajeje Brazorf posted these

Kit Number: Z205480
Name: French_South1

Kit Number: Z249757
Name: French_South2

Kit Number: Z106202
Name: French_South3

Kit Number: Z121923
Name: French_South5

Kit Number: Z054740
Name: French_South6

Kit Number: Z068184
Name: French_South7

Kit Number: Z391524
Name: FR_East1

Kit Number: Z932655
Name: FR_East2

Kit Number: Z569724
Name: FR_East3

Kit Number: Z394847
Name: FR_East4

Kit Number: Z490437
Name: FR_East5

Kit Number: Z274836
Name: FR_East6

Kit Number: Z843472
Name: FR_East7

Kit Number: Z154270
Name: FR_East8

Kit Number: Z305370
Name: FR_East10

Kit Number: Z298956
Name: FR_NW1

Kit Number: Z695743
Name: FR_NW2

Kit Number: Z242819
Name: FR_NW3

Kit Number: Z851205
Name: FR_NW4

Kit Number: Z138725
Name: FR_NW5

Kit Number: Z734052
Name: FR_NW6

Kit Number: Z759478
Name: FR_NW7

Kit Number: Z851901
Name: FR_NW8

Kit Number: Z235915
Name: FR_NW9

Kit Number: Z482956
Name: FR_West1

Kit Number: Z923233
Name: FR_West3

Kit Number: Z828444
Name: FR_West2

Kit Number: Z224021
Name: FR_West5

Kit Number: Z533268
Name: FR_West9

Kit Number: Z827960
Name: FR_West8

Kit Number: Z883581
Name: FR_West6

Kit Number: Z426531
Name: FR_West10

[J. Ketch]

@Ajeje Brazorf posted these

Kit Number: Z205480
Name: French_South1

Kit Number: Z249757
Name: French_South2

Kit Number: Z106202
Name: French_South3

Kit Number: Z121923
Name: French_South5

Kit Number: Z054740
Name: French_South6

Kit Number: Z068184
Name: French_South7

Kit Number: Z391524
Name: FR_East1

Kit Number: Z932655
Name: FR_East2

Kit Number: Z569724
Name: FR_East3

Kit Number: Z394847
Name: FR_East4

Kit Number: Z490437
Name: FR_East5

Kit Number: Z274836
Name: FR_East6

Kit Number: Z843472
Name: FR_East7

Kit Number: Z154270
Name: FR_East8

Kit Number: Z305370
Name: FR_East10

Kit Number: Z298956
Name: FR_NW1

Kit Number: Z695743
Name: FR_NW2

Kit Number: Z242819
Name: FR_NW3

Kit Number: Z851205
Name: FR_NW4

Kit Number: Z138725
Name: FR_NW5

Kit Number: Z734052
Name: FR_NW6

Kit Number: Z759478
Name: FR_NW7

Kit Number: Z851901
Name: FR_NW8

Kit Number: Z235915
Name: FR_NW9

Kit Number: Z482956
Name: FR_West1

Kit Number: Z923233
Name: FR_West3

Kit Number: Z828444
Name: FR_West2

Kit Number: Z224021
Name: FR_West5

Kit Number: Z533268
Name: FR_West9

Kit Number: Z827960
Name: FR_West8

Kit Number: Z883581
Name: FR_West6

Kit Number: Z426531
Name: FR_West10
Why did he only post kits with very low SNP's? They're not appropriate to be used as examples.

[Celestia]

explains why I always get Kent on my damn oracle

[dududud]

Why did he only post kits with very low SNP's? They're not appropriate to be used as examples.

Do you want my father results, he's mostly from Northern France with one ancestors from couhé (central france) in the 17 th century. ???

[J. Ketch]

Do you want my father results, he's mostly from Northern France with one ancestors from couhé (central france) in the 17 th century. ???
I already have his G25 coordinates, I'm not much interested in Gedmatch kits.

[dududud]

I already have his G25 coordinates, I'm not much interested in Gedmatch kits.

And what do you think about his results? Typical?

[Jana]

my DNA relatives, full French Bretons (confirmed by Gedcom)

#1

1 North_Atlantic 49.2
2 Baltic 23.52
3 West_Med 15.87
4 East_Med 5.62
5 West_Asian 3.91
6 Northeast_African 1.78
7 Red_Sea 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

1 Southeast_English 3.15
2 Southwest_English 4.39
3 Orcadian 5.17
4 South_Dutch 5.43
5 North_Dutch 6.22
6 Irish 6.32
7 West_Scottish 6.44
8 Danish 6.54
9 West_German 6.83
10 North_German 7.33
11 Norwegian 8.41
12 French 10.01
13 Swedish 10.08
14 Austrian 12.64
15 East_German 13.26
16 North_Swedish 15.32
17 Spanish_Cataluna 16.58
18 Hungarian 17.42
19 Southwest_French 17.54
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 96.1% Southeast_English + 3.9% Sardinian @ 2.51
2 71.3% Norwegian + 28.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.54
3 90.4% Southeast_English + 9.6% Southwest_French @ 2.55
4 70.7% Norwegian + 29.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.55
5 90.6% Southeast_English + 9.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.57
6 68.5% Norwegian + 31.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.57
7 74.3% Danish + 25.7% Southwest_French @ 2.59
8 75.4% North_Dutch + 24.6% Southwest_French @ 2.59
9 91% Southeast_English + 9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.6
10 91% Southeast_English + 9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.6
11 91.2% Southeast_English + 8.8% Portuguese @ 2.62
12 70.5% Norwegian + 29.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.62
13 76% North_Dutch + 24% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.62
14 98.2% Southeast_English + 1.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.62
15 91.8% Southeast_English + 8.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.63
16 69.1% Norwegian + 30.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.64
17 97.9% Southeast_English + 2.1% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.64
18 97.9% Southeast_English + 2.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.65
19 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Moroccan @ 2.65
20 78% North_Dutch + 22% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.65

#2

1 North_Atlantic 49.7
2 Baltic 20.88
3 West_Med 17.89
4 East_Med 7.68
5 West_Asian 1.76
6 Amerindian 0.98
7 Northeast_African 0.63
8 Oceanian 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

1 Southeast_English 5.4
2 Southwest_English 6.28
3 South_Dutch 6.57
4 West_German 7.97
5 Orcadian 7.99
6 French 8.41
7 West_Scottish 8.84
8 Irish 9.11
9 North_Dutch 9.58
10 Danish 9.92
11 North_German 10.83
12 Norwegian 11.77
13 Swedish 13.56
14 Spanish_Cataluna 13.8
15 Austrian 14.7
16 Southwest_French 14.77
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.95
18 Spanish_Cantabria 15.25
19 East_German 15.58
20 Spanish_Galicia 15.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 77.8% Southeast_English + 22.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.54
2 77.4% Southeast_English + 22.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.69
3 75.6% Southeast_English + 24.4% Southwest_French @ 2.69
4 76.3% Southeast_English + 23.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.71
5 76.1% Southeast_English + 23.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.83
6 78.2% Southeast_English + 21.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.84
7 74.8% Southeast_English + 25.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.91
8 78.2% Southeast_English + 21.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.91
9 90.7% Southeast_English + 9.3% Sardinian @ 2.95
10 80.6% Southeast_English + 19.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.06
11 59.4% Norwegian + 40.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.13
12 78% Southeast_English + 22% Portuguese @ 3.15
13 68.6% Orcadian + 31.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.19
14 80% Southeast_English + 20% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.24
15 78.1% Southeast_English + 21.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.25
16 64.9% North_Dutch + 35.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.35
17 69.6% Orcadian + 30.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.37
18 64% Danish + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.39
19 83.6% Southeast_English + 16.4% French_Basque @ 3.44
20 65% Orcadian + 35% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.48