Patriot Militia In The US?

[Freomæg]

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I've gotta say - with the Last of the Mohicans soundtrack playing in the background, this guy makes some impact.

So, do you think there's a possibility that serious armed militia groups are silently forming?

[SwordoftheVistula]

So, do you think there's a possibility that serious armed militia groups are silently forming?

We had them in the 80s and 90s, but the government now does a pretty good job of infiltrating them and shutting them down.

[The Lawspeaker]

I think that our armed forces and our people should arm themselves and ignore the government and rise up too.
That was a very powerful call and we too- citizens of other countries- should not ignore it but rise up and fight like we never fought before.
My ancestors did not fight Alva and his Spaniards, did not fight Louis XIV, or the British or Hitler for that matter to go quietly into the night now. They didn't fight for that- did they ? They fought to be free.

[Barreldriver]

I'm for the concept 100%. I feel though that if there is a revolution, it's not going to be as simple as our previous 2. The Colonial Revolution and the War of Northern Aggression. The first two were pretty much quite similar, secession from an oppressive government, however a third revolution would encompass more than secession, more than state rights, it would encompass our cause European preservation and racialist attitudes not so much present in the previous two. Why? Because back then the European folk were not in danger of being swallowed/destroyed by the non-Europeans within the nation, now a days with free non-Europeans roaming around we have more than one front to fight on, we have to fight our oppressive government and we have to fight the non-Europeans. We need to be prepared for that. The video was moving IMO, however I find one issue, the U.S. military is multi-cultural so who is really in danger? People with our views, people like us who are against multi-culturalism and miscegination. This revolution will be one the likes of which the United States has yet to see.

[Æmeric]

The 1992 riots in Los Angeles gave a big boost to the militia movement because of the inability (or unwillingness - remember Bush senior sending in the NG to guard burned out strip malls?:rolleyes2:) of the civil authorities or the National Guard to control the uprising. Then the militia movement was blamed for causing the enviroment that led to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Though that was in response to the US Government's assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. And the 2 men responsible had never belonged to a militia but had in fact meet in the US Army. And am I the only one who finds it extremely suspicious that every agent working out of the ATF office (http://www.atf.gov/) in that building (and said ATF office was the reason that building was bombed) just happened to be out of the office when the bomb went off?:suspicious:

[Vargtand]

To be honest I am starting to understand more regarding the gun-worship in the US since I've "educated" my self with this form of titbits of information how your constitution is built up. And in all honesty I can see the sanity of having weapons for the masses. Criminals and law-abiding people alike, as for militias well seems to be something that seems to be a necessity :P

[Freomæg]

To be honest I am starting to understand more regarding the gun-worship in the US since I've "educated" my self with this form of titbits of information how your constitution is built up.
Same. I used to be very anti-gun. But now... what's the saying:

"Free men are armed, slaves aren't"

Looks like most of us Europeans are slaves :(

[Vargtand]

Same. I used to be very anti-gun. But now... what's the saying:

"Free men are armed, slaves aren't"

Looks like most of us Europeans are slaves :(

You came to that conclusion now??? :P

[Baron Samedi]

You are all terrorist supporters, I say! :p

[Vargtand]

You are all terrorist supporters, I say! :p

Depends who the terrorist is and if it furthered my ideal. Then yes hypothetically so.

[SPQR]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing.

I would proudly give my life for the state of Arizona. I am loyal to the STATE, I have no allegiance towards the federal union. Anyone who educates themselves on the civil war will have the same feelings as I.. That since that war we've lived in a forced union, forced to pay tribute to our over-lords.. hopefully the day will come where their authority is challenged, and the union ceases to exist. Because I promise if I see my brothers arming themselves and preparing for resistance, I will be standing right there with rifle in hand.

[Barreldriver]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing.

I would proudly give my life for the state of Arizona. I am loyal to the STATE, I have no allegiance towards the federal union. Anyone who educates themselves on the civil war will have the same feelings as I.. That since that war we've lived in a forced union, forced to pay tribute to our over-lords.. hopefully the day will come where their authority is challenged, and the union ceases to exist. Because I promise if I see my brothers arming themselves and preparing for resistance, I will be standing right there with rifle in hand.

Just how I am loyal to Tennessee. I agree with this 100%.

[Lenny]

So, do you think there's a possibility that serious armed militia groups are silently forming?Every so often, they have, but those militias were destroyed from within. The 5,000-member paramilitary "White Patriot Party", active in the 1980s and centered in North Carolina, for example. They had defacto military-training for their members and regularly marched through cities by the hundreds, in tight formation. The U.S. government was very seriously scared of this group, and so the Feds worked overtime to destroy it and jail its leaders, sending in informants and agents, and so on. They eventually jailed the leaders on very flimsy grounds. [Several other crackdowns on other militia groups followed, some of which led to the Ft.Smith Sedition Trial.]

The above would be the fate of any militia group, unless and until the U.S. Federal Government becomes too weak to continue.

IMO, if anything like this is even feasible at all, it would have to be associated with groups like the Vermont secessionist group (which are libertarian, certainly not racialist and would be - rightly - terrified of attaching a militia to themselves for fear of everyone going to prison), rather than trying to rescue the quickly-sinking ship of the "USA".

[Lenny]

would proudly give my life for the state of Arizona. I am loyal to the STATE, I have no allegiance towards the federal union.I strongly agree with the spirit of what you wrote, SPQR. (Though making a stand for Arizona seems hopeless; I mean, Phoenix is a competitor for "most rootless city" in the USA imo.)

I have allegiance and love for my kinsfolk on the North American continent and in Europe (and scattered a few other places) and it is clear that the entity known as "the USA" is hostile thereto. Therefore I hope that the USA falls apart before too long, and that its successor states can give us a better future than being subsumed into a pathetic "globalized" brown mush.

[Lenny]

BTW: I think there's a decent possibility that the video was actually made by the government. This is a very common entrapment tactic.

[Jamt]

Some of those Milita were murderous scum who bombed a nursery in Oklahoma right?
I think you Americans should cool it.

[Lenny]

Some of those Milita were murderous scum who bombed a nursery in Oklahoma right?
I think you Americans should cool it.McVeigh was never in any militia. (And had no way of knowing that a nursery would be housed in the federal building in Oklahoma; what are the odds of a nursery in a federal government building?).

The media used that event as a scare tactic and to inflate the importance of the militias in the 1990s.


By the way, the U.S. Constitution mandates a non-military "militia" to exist; this mandate has been totally ignored for a long time now (unless one believes that the National Guard really are "militias":rolleyes:).

[Jamt]

Sure the milita claimed McVeigh were not a member. Have you as a American not seen apologetic stuff around of what he did from pro milita. And the National Guard sound like something I would have joined, if being American.

[Sol Invictus]

Some of those Milita were murderous scum who bombed a nursery in Oklahoma right?
I think you Americans should cool it.

LOL. You're joking, right? Militias are what made America free in the first place and they're the only thing stopping the government from introducing a total gun ban in the U.S. Why do you think such a thing went off without a hitch in England when they demanded the citizens hand in their guns? Now look at the state of them. There's no hope for the English.

[SPQR]

I strongly agree with the spirit of what you wrote, SPQR. (Though making a stand for Arizona seems hopeless; I mean, Phoenix is a competitor for "most rootless city" in the USA imo.)


Arizona is amazing and it's my home, as for Phoenix and the whole metro valley area, I hate it. But then again i don't think any city is better. What city isn't over-run with a rediculous lack of culture?

[Gwynyvyr]

Sure the milita claimed McVeigh were not a member. Have you as a American not seen apologetic stuff around of what he did from pro milita. And the National Guard sound like something I would have joined, if being American.

WHICH militia claimed this?
None of them.
McVeigh had actually tried to join a community enclave of the Christian Identity (I think?) church, but he was turned away.
He sympathized with the militia movement. That's a far cry from being a member of one.

He had been in the United States Army.
After he was discharged, he got involved in several half hearted attempts to start his own militia, he also was outraged at what happened at Ruby Ridge and was actually present at Waco when the US Government murdered 80 people, 52 of them women and children.
19 children died at Oklahoma City.
25 at Waco.
Yet, while pictures of grieving parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, neighbors and so on and so forth were on the news 24-7 after OKC for weeks, even MONTHS, there was no such public outpouring of grief for the children of Waco. Their families and friends were ignored. After all, they were just *religious nuts* while the OKC children came from *normal, middle class Christian families*.

How many millions were spent on the memorial at OKC?
How much was spent on a memorial at Waco?
Oh...wait...all of the structures were burned or razed by the government.:rolleyes: I believe a small chapel was built by the surviving church members and their families. AFTER they jumped through many hoops to get permission from the oh-so-merciful US Government.

The National Guard was ordered to take legally owned weapons away from their owners during Katrina in New Orleans. They followed their orders and did so, leaving many home owners unable to protect their property or their lives. They did not take ILLEGALLY owned weapons away from the people who held them...it is, after all, a "Chocolate City" and we must not upset the "Chocolate Citizens", right?

Look, I'll be blunt.
There are survivalist militias in the US. The government did not get all of them, nor will it ever. Some are religion based, others are community based, some politically based, etc.

Would I join one or provide support for one?
As we Americans say:
Damn skippy!
:thumbs up

[Freomæg]

I don't actually advocate 'white race' militia groups. Reason being that racial and cultural destruction is just one facet of the overall tyranny we face. 'White race' militia groups, in my opinion, are the activist equivalent of using a nasal spray to cure the flu.

I don't know much about the history of militia groups (so it's interesting learning a few bits here), but surely the USA (and UK, Europe) have not seen such an afront to liberty as right now. What I'm interested in is the possibility that there is some kind of underground network of armed, informed patriots who are ready to face off with the authorities should it be necessary. Known groups, marching through streets in the public (and government) eye are worthwhile but seem to me to be a message to the government as opposed to a real force. A real force might perhaps work more covertly and then culminate in the heat of revolutionary action.

If there aren't such groups, then I fear for our future. We obviously have no such thing here in the UK so we have little hope. But perhaps the USA can be saved - therefore putting a spanner in the Globalist's works.