My Global 25 Results

[karakartal]

Modern
[1] "distance%=1.877"

karakartal_scaled

Turkish_Istanbul,22.6
Greek,21.4
Macedonian,12
Turkish_Aydin,8
Turkish_Adana,7.2
Turkish_Balikesir,6.2
Bulgarian,4.6
Greek_Crete,3.4
Turkish_Kayseri,3.2
Serbian,2.8
Romaniote_Jew,2.2
Moldovan,1.2
Bosnian,1
Ukrainian,1
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.8
Greek_Trabzon,0.8
Albanian,0.6
Romanian,0.6
Turkish_Trabzon,0.4

Medieval:

[1] "distance%=2.5428"

karakartal_scaled

Albanian,47.6
Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD,22.4
Anatolia_Ottoman,12.8
Hungary_Medieval,8.4
Turk_Medieval,8
Iran_recent,0.8

Iron Age:


[1] "distance%=2.7319"

karakartal_scaled

Anatolia_IA,36.2
Scythian_Hungary,31.2
Balkans_IA,24.8
Udegram_IA,1.6
England_IA,1.2
Loebanr_IA,1
Saka_Tian_Shan,0.8
Sarmatian_West,0.8
Saka_Kazakh_Steppe,0.6
Barikot_IA,0.4
Butkara_IA,0.4
Katelai_IA,0.4
Aligrama_IA,0.2
Saidu_Sharif_IA,0.2
Sarmatian,0.2

Bronze Age:

[1] "distance%=2.5543"

karakartal_scaled

Balkans_BA,32.8
Dzharkutan2_BA,16.4
Hungary_BA,10.4
Mycenaean,4
Anatolia_BA,2.8
Armenia_MLBA,2.8
Levant_BA_North,2.6
Levant_BA_South,2.6
Sappali_Tepe_BA,2.6
Yamnaya_Ukraine_o,2.2
Anatolia_MLBA,2
Minoan_Lasithi,1.8
Armenia_EBA,1.4
Sintashta_MLBA,1.4
Anatolia_EBA,1
Krasnoyarsk_MLBA,1

Chalcolithic:

[1] "distance%=1.7222"

karakartal_scaled

Hajji_Firuz_ChL,18.8
Afanasievo,17
Balaton_Lasinja_CA,16
Beaker_Hungary,9
Levant_ChL,8.6
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,7.2
Beaker_Central_Europe,7
TDLN,5.8
Ust_Ida_LN,5.2
CWC_Baltic,3
Hungary_LCA,2.2
Seh_Gabi_ChL,0.2

HG (Hunter Gatherers):

[1] "distance%=3.7522"

karakartal_scaled

Barcin_N,56.2
West_Siberia_N,19.6
CHG,19.4
SHG,4.8

Neolithic

[1] "distance%=3.6666"

karakartal_scaled

Krepost_N,38
Malak_Preslavets,12.4
Peloponnese_N_o,8
Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,5.4
Abdul_Hosein_N,4.2
Ganj_Dareh_N,4
CHG,3.6
Shamanka_N,3.2
Ukraine_N,2.2
Hotu_HG,2
EHG,1.8
Barcin_N,1.6
Ukraine_Mesolithic,1.6
Latvia_MN,1.4
Wezmeh_Cave_N,1.2
AfontovaGora3,1

anglesqueville K7
Fit 4.7417
South-Euro K7 79.17
Uralic K7 12.5
Central-Euro K7 7.5
NE-Euro K7 0.83

capitalis modern europe k16
Fit 3.0296
Italian South And Sicilian K18 43.33
Albanian-Greek K18 24.17
Askhenazi Jewish K18 16.67
Bosnian Montenegrin Serbian Romanian Bulgarian K18 7.5
Saami K18 7.5
Finnish 0.83

dorkymon balkans k4
Fit 3.2585
Pre-Slavic Thracian World K4 40.83
Pre-Slavic Greek World K4 30.83
Slavic Migration 24.17
Mongols Et Al. 4.17

Kaspias's Balkans K5
Fit 1.8746
Balkanic-Aegean K5 52.5
Eastern Balkans K5 23.33
Turkic K5 15.83
Caucasian K5 7.5
Western Balkans K5 0.83

michal ancient k9
Fit 3.7748
Armenia ChL K9 44.17
Beaker Iberia K9 17.5
Levant N K9 14.17
Baltic BA K9 9.17
Anc Saami K9 9.17
Iran N K9 5
East Asia K9 0.83

randwulf iron age world k19
Fit 1.9414
Caucasian 35.83
Med 34.17
Europe 17.5
SW Asian 7.5
Central Asian 1.67
Siberian 1.67
Uralic 0.83
Indo Aryan 0.83

randwulf siberian averages k10
Fit 3.8463
LBK EN K10 40.83
Yamnaya Samara K10 38.33
BedouinB K10 16.67
Onge K10 3.33
Han K10 0.83

ph2ter K35 calculator
[1] "distance%=2.731"

karakartal_scaled

Balkan,43.2
Assyrian,26
South_East_European,20.8
North_Central_Asian,2.8
South_Caucasian,2.8
Turkic_Mongolic,2.2
Uralic,1
North_Caucasian,0.6
Papuan,0.6

LTG European K8
[1] "distance%=1.9954"

karakartal_scaled

East_Mediterranean,60.6
North_Sea,18.4
Baltic,16.4
Siberia,4.6

Mykhailo European K10
karakartal @ 1.8362

36.6 Anatolian Pontic
32 Balkan
8.2 South Balkan
8.2 Mediterranean Islander
6.8 Central Asian
6.6 Bessarabian
0.8 Iberian and Italian Peninsulas
0.8 North African

[Lemgrant]

some of my results

capitalis_modern_europe_K16
Fit 1.366

Polish Belarusian Ukrainian
65.83

Estonian Latvian Lithuanian
14.17

German Czech Austrian K18
9.17

Finnish
5.83

Bosnian Montenegrin Serbian Romanian Bulgarian K18
4.17

Saami
0.83
__________________________________________________ _
capitalis_modern_northern_europe_K7
Fit 1.3771

Polish Belarusian Ukrainian K7
68.33

Estonian Latvian Lithuanian K7
11.67

German Czech Austrian K7
10.83

Finnish K7
7.5

French Belgian K7
1.67
_____________________________________________

michal_ancient_K9
Fit 3.5316

Baltic BA
58.33

Beaker Iberia
19.17

Armenia ChL
9.17

Anc Saami
8.33

Levant N
4.17

Iran N
0.83
________________________________________
michal_modern_world_K35
Fit 2.9104

Balto Slavic
67.5

Finnic
13.33

Central European
11.67

Balkan
7.5
_____________________________________________

anglesqueville_euro_only_K7
Fit 2.9

Central-Euro K7
45

NE-Euro
45

Uralic
5

South-Atlantic
3.33

South-Euro
1.67
__________________________________________________ _____
LTG_european_K8
Fit 2.06

Baltic
70

North Sea
27.5

East Mediterranean
1.67

Siberia
0.83

[FilhoV]

Some of my runs

Using the whole spreadsheet

[1] "distance%=0.9593 / distance=0.009593"

FilhoV_scaled

Ukraine_N_o 18.60
Wales_CA_EBA 13.80
Spanish_Andalucia 10.75
Wales_N 10.30
Petrovka_MLBA 9.85
Vucedol 7.50
Maros 6.45
Spanish_Canarias 5.60
Tisza_LN 4.50
CHG 3.60
Comb_Ceramic 2.65
Iberomaurusian 2.35


Using selected populations

[1] "distance%=2.1837 / distance=0.021837"

FilhoV_scaled

Basque_Spanish 46.5
Italian_Abruzzo 33.2
Moroccan 12.3
Germany_Medieval 8.0


[1] "distance%=3.1325"

FilhoV_scaled

EEF,53.2
Yamnaya,27
Moroccan,10.4
WHG,8.8
SSA,0.6


[1] "distance%=2.3858 / distance=0.023858"

FilhoV_scaled

Hallstatt_Bylany 43.0
Portugal_MBA 24.2
Anatolia_BA 21.0
Moroccan 11.8


"distance%=2.197"

FilhoV_scaled

Spanish_Extremadura,55
Spanish_Canarias,36
Portuguese,9


distance%=2.9898"

FilhoV_scaled

LBK_N,57.6
Yamnaya_Samara,30.4
Iberomaurusian,6.8
WHG,5.2


"distance%=2.0901"

FilhoV_scaled

Italian_Tuscan,42.4
Iberia_BA,28.6
England_Roman,15.6
Mozabite,13.4




[1] "distance%=3.0677 / distance=0.030677"

FilhoV_scaled

Barcin_N 53.55
Yamnaya_Samara 27.60
Saharawi 9.15
WHG 8.70
Yoruba 1.00

Pen=0.001
[1] "distance%=2.2611"

FilhoV_scaled

Iberian+Basques,75.8
Greek+Albanian,7.2
Maltese+European_Jewish,7
Neolithic_Farmers,3.4
Arabic,3.2
Ethiopian+Somali+Iberomaurusian,1.4
Semitic,1.2
African,0.2
Caucasian,0.2
Central_European,0.2
Yamnaya+Afanasievo+EHG,0.2

Pen=0
[1] "distance%=1.9044"

FilhoV_scaled

Iberian+Basques,58.4
Maltese+European_Jewish,14.6
NW_European+Beakers,12.2
Neolithic_Farmers,11.2
African,2.2
Ethiopian+Somali+Iberomaurusian,1.4



Using French and Basques in place of Iberian populations alongside North African groups


[1] "distance%=3.1518 / distance=0.031518"

FilhoV_scaled

French 81.3
Mozabite 18.7

[1] "distance%=3.7131 / distance=0.037131"

FilhoV_scaled

Spanish_Pais_Vasco 83
Saharawi 17

[lonewolfcypriot]

I can't find this calculator on GEDmatch

[Kaspias]

I can't find this calculator on GEDmatch

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html

[Kaspias]

LTG's recent calculator is one of the best ones among G25 calculators.

[1] "distance%=2.5857"

Kaspias_scaled

East_Mediterranean,47
North_Sea,43
Siberia,7
Baltic,3


I will share my other runs too if i can find some time.

[Lemgrant]

nMonte3
getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
Latvian,29.6
Hungarian,13.2
Polish,12.4
Russian_Tver,9.2
Belarusian,8.6
Ukrainian,6
Czech,3.8
Baltic_BA,2.2
Romanian,2.2
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA,2.2
German,1.4
Croatian,1.2
Krasnoyarsk_MLBA,1.2
TDLN,1.2
Austrian,0.6
Mordovian,0.6
Chuvash,0.4
Darra_i_kur,0.4
Hungary_LCA,0.4
Naxi,0.4
Yemenite_Mahra,0.4
Baltic_IA,0.2
Bolivian_LaPaz,0.2
Brahmin_Manipuri,0.2
Cossack_Kuban,0.2
Korean,0.2
Levant_BA_South,0.2
Levant_N,0.2
Lithuanian,0.2
Macedonian,0.2
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP,0.2
Russian_Orel,0.2
Sweden_Viking_Age,0.2


nMonte3
getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
Cossack_Kuban,36.4
Latvian,35
Golden_Horde_European,10
Mentese_N,6.6
Yamnaya_Karagash,3.8
Darra_i_kur,2.6
Slovakian,2.2
Sweden_MN,1.8
England_IA,1.2
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP,0.2
Petrovka_MLBA,0.2

[Lemgrant]

here is the Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FSzKKknFGcOgfyA76q9PD7B-n-MJs7L8/view

and here is the Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bPt1Xqy0HwXpJFcug3vaC3MBqFTMvj5A/view

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/02/unleash-power-global-25-test-drive.html

[Lemgrant]

this is by using the nMonte2 script: interesting

Latvian:latvian54A2 6.00
Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 5.70
Polish: Polish21 5.25
Hungarian:NA15207 5.20
Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 5.15
Latvian:latvian54F2 4.95
Belarusian:Belarusian7 4.65
Ukrainian:Ukrainian3 3.75
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns25 3.40
Czech:Czech_Republic2 3.10
Croatian:Croatia_Cro26 2.95
Polish: Polish1 2.55
Polish: Polish5 2.55
Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179 2.50
Austrian:Austria13 2.25
Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 2.20
German:German71 2.15
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns209 2.10
Baltic_IA: DA171 2.00
Macedonian:Macedonian7 1.85
Krasnoyarsk_MLBA:I3392 1.75
Lithuanian:LithuanianF1 1.70
Polish: Polish4 1.55
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb005 1.55
Polish: Polish23 1.25
Kairan_MLBA:I4567 1.15
Mordovian:Mordovian10 1.15
Ukrainian:Ukrainian22 1.10
Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6 0.90
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns222 0.80
Estonian:S_Estonian-2 0.80
German:German73 0.80
Polish: Polish35 0.80
Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 0.80
Bosnian:Bosnian_14 0.75
Golden_Horde_European: DA29 0.60
Lithuanian:LithuanianE2 0.60
Romanian:A325 0.60
TDLN:I1899 0.60
Russian_Kostroma:Russia_Kostr138 0.55
German:German8 0.50
Karelian:Karelia10 0.50
Korean:ND19394 0.50
Mordovian:Mordovian8 0.50
Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol34 0.45
Russian_Smolensk:Russia_Smol304 0.35
Karelian:karelia3 0.30
Polish: Polish25 0.30
Darra_i_kur: Darra_i_kur 0.25
Mordovian:Mordovian1 0.25
Mordovian:Mordovian18 0.25
Ukrainian:Ukrainian15 0.25
Ukrainian:Ukrainian18 0.25
German:German62 0.20
Hungarian:NA15200 0.20
Karelian:karelia1 0.20
Levant_BA_South:I1705 0.20
Naxi:HGDP01344 0.20
Polish: Polish28 0.20
Polish: Polish29 0.20
Beaker_Central_Europe:I3600 0.15
Belarusian:Belarusian10 0.15
French:French10 0.15
Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo20 0.15
Moldovan:748_R02C01 0.15
Polish: Polish27 0.15
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5 0.15
Austrian:Austria7 0.10
Bolivian_LaPaz:Bolivian39 0.10
Croatian:Croatia_Cro141 0.10
Czech:NA15725 0.10
French:French62 0.10
French:French8 0.10
German:German48 0.10
Hungary_LCA:I5117 0.10
Miao:S_Miao-2 0.10
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP:I2261 0.10
Polish: Polish26 0.10
Surui:HGDP00832 0.10
Austrian:Austria16 0.05
Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2 0.05
Beaker_Britain:I2568 0.05
Belarusian:Belarusian14 0.05
Belarusian:Belarusian4 0.05
Belgian:Belgium8 0.05
Chuvash:544_R02C02 0.05
Chuvash:559_R02C01 0.05
Czech:NA15733 0.05
Dutch:Netherlands22 0.05
Estonian:Est372 0.05
Estonian:Est397 0.05
Finnish:HG00173 0.05
French:French47 0.05
German:German12 0.05
German:German23 0.05
German:German4 0.05
German:German67 0.05
German_East:German_East3 0.05
Germany_Medieval:AED_106 0.05
Levant_BA_South:I1706 0.05
Lithuanian:LithuanianD1 0.05
Maitan_MLBA_Alakul:I6794 0.05
Mentese_N:I0723 0.05
Mordovian:Mordovian12 0.05
Mordovian:Mordovian5 0.05
Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA:I3861 0.05
Russian_Kostroma:Russia_Kostr128 0.05
Russian_Voronez:RussianVoron105 0.05
Scythian_Ukraine:scy009 0.05
Slovakian:Slovakia85 0.05
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb009 0.05
Vepsian:vepsa34 0.05

[Lemgrant]

nMonte2 and Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt:

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

Cossack_Kuban 32.30
Latvian 21.05
Golden_Horde_European 16.20
Slovakian 8.15
Mentese_N 5.25
Russian_Tver 3.30
Darra_i_kur 2.65
Baltic_IA 2.60
Yamnaya_Karagash 2.55
Petrovka_MLBA 1.35
Sweden_MN 1.00
England_IA 0.75
Lithuanian 0.75
Khvalynsk_Eneolithic 0.40
Halberstadt_LBA 0.35
Beaker_Central_Europe_no_steppe 0.25
Cossack_Ukrainian 0.25
Koros_HG 0.25
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP 0.20
Iberia_Central_CA 0.15
Poltavka_o 0.10
England_LBA 0.05
Montenegrin 0.05
Unknown_MLBA 0.05

[celticdragongod]

My results:

nMonte3

Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
1.700078 1.720436 1.810836 1.871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
1.885360 1.905197 1.919219 2.037917


"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.2916"

English_Cornwall,48.2
Shetlandic,30.2
Nordic_IA,13.8
Varna_o,5.8
West_Siberia_N_low_res,1
Gupta,0.2
Irish,0.2
Mentese_N,0.2
Vucedol,0.2
Welsh,0.2

nMonte2

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
0.01700078 0.01720436 0.01810836 0.01871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
0.01885360 0.01905197 0.01919219 0.02037917

"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.3321 / distance=0.013321"

English_Cornwall 28.30
Shetlandic 24.55
Nordic_IA 16.65
Irish 9.25
Varna_o 6.05
Welsh 4.75
Scottish 3.55
England_Anglo-Saxon 1.90
Vucedol 1.05
West_Siberia_N_low_res 0.85
English 0.80
Ukraine_N_o 0.75
Icelandic 0.60
Netherlands_BA 0.30
Gupta 0.10
Mentese_N 0.10
Orcadian 0.10
Remedello_BA 0.10
Swedish 0.10
England_Roman 0.05
Scotland_LBA 0.05
Spanish_Aragon 0.05

"3. RESTRICTED nMONTE"

English_Cornwall 39.8
Shetlandic 38.2
Nordic_IA 16.7
Varna_o 3.9
Vucedol 1.4

[Lemgrant]

My results:

nMonte3

Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
1.700078 1.720436 1.810836 1.871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
1.885360 1.905197 1.919219 2.037917


"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.2916"

English_Cornwall,48.2
Shetlandic,30.2
Nordic_IA,13.8
Varna_o,5.8
West_Siberia_N_low_res,1
Gupta,0.2
Irish,0.2
Mentese_N,0.2
Vucedol,0.2
Welsh,0.2

nMonte2

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
0.01700078 0.01720436 0.01810836 0.01871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
0.01885360 0.01905197 0.01919219 0.02037917

"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.3321 / distance=0.013321"

English_Cornwall 28.30
Shetlandic 24.55
Nordic_IA 16.65
Irish 9.25
Varna_o 6.05
Welsh 4.75
Scottish 3.55
England_Anglo-Saxon 1.90
Vucedol 1.05
West_Siberia_N_low_res 0.85
English 0.80
Ukraine_N_o 0.75
Icelandic 0.60
Netherlands_BA 0.30
Gupta 0.10
Mentese_N 0.10
Orcadian 0.10
Remedello_BA 0.10
Swedish 0.10
England_Roman 0.05
Scotland_LBA 0.05
Spanish_Aragon 0.05

"3. RESTRICTED nMONTE"

English_Cornwall 39.8
Shetlandic 38.2
Nordic_IA 16.7
Varna_o 3.9
Vucedol 1.4

can you post your results by using the Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt?

[onetwopunch]

Is this on gedmatch too?

[karakartal]

Is this on gedmatch too?

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html?m=1

[onetwopunch]

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-powerful-global-25-now-available.html?m=1

What is special about this? I don’t see anything more fancy compared to the other tests that are free.

[Lemgrant]

My results:

nMonte3

Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
1.700078 1.720436 1.810836 1.871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
1.885360 1.905197 1.919219 2.037917


"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.2916"

English_Cornwall,48.2
Shetlandic,30.2
Nordic_IA,13.8
Varna_o,5.8
West_Siberia_N_low_res,1
Gupta,0.2
Irish,0.2
Mentese_N,0.2
Vucedol,0.2
Welsh,0.2

nMonte2

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
0.01700078 0.01720436 0.01810836 0.01871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
0.01885360 0.01905197 0.01919219 0.02037917

"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.3321 / distance=0.013321"

English_Cornwall 28.30
Shetlandic 24.55
Nordic_IA 16.65
Irish 9.25
Varna_o 6.05
Welsh 4.75
Scottish 3.55
England_Anglo-Saxon 1.90
Vucedol 1.05
West_Siberia_N_low_res 0.85
English 0.80
Ukraine_N_o 0.75
Icelandic 0.60
Netherlands_BA 0.30
Gupta 0.10
Mentese_N 0.10
Orcadian 0.10
Remedello_BA 0.10
Swedish 0.10
England_Roman 0.05
Scotland_LBA 0.05
Spanish_Aragon 0.05

"3. RESTRICTED nMONTE"

English_Cornwall 39.8
Shetlandic 38.2
Nordic_IA 16.7
Varna_o 3.9
Vucedol 1.4

you:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 English_Cornwall:HG00160
1.774129 1.845902
English_Cornwall:HG00259 Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146
2.004115 2.017530
English:English2 Swedish:Sweden4
2.085269 2.139760
Scottish:Scottish9 Norwegian:NOR108
2.242359 2.263252

Irish,26.2
Dutch,25
German,9
Shetlandic,8.2
Scottish,7.2
Italy_Medieval_Collegno,6.2
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA,3.8
Sweden_Viking_Age,3.2
Germany_Medieval,2.8
Levanluhta_IA_o,2.2
Tisza_LN,2.2
Scythian_Moldova,1
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,0.8
CWC_Baltic_early,0.6
Afanasievo,0.4
English_Cornwall,0.4
Icelandic,0.4
Tiszapolgar_ECA,0.4
_____________________________
nMonte2

Dutch:Netherlands36 6.40
Irish:Irish1 6.00
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 5.90
Irish:Irish8 5.45
Irish:Irish63 4.35
Scottish:Scottish20 4.10
Dutch:Netherlands54 3.40
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146 3.40
Irish:Irish42 3.20
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb002 3.20
German:German6 3.05
Sweden_Viking_Age:Sigtuna_grt036 2.75
Dutch:Netherlands64 2.45
Dutch:Netherlands58 2.40
German:German21 2.40
Irish:Irish23 2.10
Tisza_LN:I2358 2.10
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15 2.05
Dutch:Netherlands8 2.00
Germany_Medieval:NW_255 2.00
Dutch:Netherlands12 1.90
Irish:Irish65 1.75
Scottish:Scottish9 1.50
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL151 1.45
Scottish:Scottish28 1.30
German:German31 1.25
Scottish:Scottish8 1.20
Levanluhta_IA_o:JK2065 1.15
Dutch:Netherlands7 1.10
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145 1.05
Dutch:Netherlands1 1.00
English_Cornwall:HG00253 1.00
Icelandic:NA15766 0.95
English_Cornwall:HG00252 0.90
Irish:Irish40 0.70
Scottish:Scottish11 0.70
English:English3 0.65
Swedish:Sweden5 0.65
Dutch:Netherlands29 0.60
English_Cornwall:HG00232 0.50
German:German35 0.50
Norwegian:NOR108 0.50
Dutch:Netherlands59 0.45
Irish:Irish46 0.45
Afanasievo:I6711 0.40
Dutch:Netherlands17 0.40
England_MBA:I7579 0.40
German:German45 0.40
Scythian_Moldova:scy311 0.40
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:mur004 0.40
French:French61 0.35
Belgian:Belgium23 0.30
CWC_Baltic_early:I4629 0.30
Dutch:Netherlands22 0.30
Irish:Irish59 0.30
Swedish:Sweden4 0.30
Dutch:Netherlands42 0.25
English:England8 0.25
English_Cornwall:HG00160 0.25
English_Cornwall:HG00261 0.25
England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773 0.20
Irish:Irish43 0.20
Swedish:Sweden22 0.20
Tiszapolgar_ECA:I2354 0.20
English_Cornwall:HG00239 0.15
German:German24 0.15
Irish:Irish49 0.15
Irish:Irish5 0.15
Welsh:WAL003 0.15
Belgian:Belgium9 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands14 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands18 0.10
French:French11 0.10
German:German25 0.10
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9 0.10
Irish:Irish4 0.10
Nordic_IA:RISE174 0.10
Varna_o:ANI163 0.10
Beaker_Britain:I5512 0.05
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ30 0.05
Irish:Irish38 0.05
Irish:Irish55 0.05
Orcadian:HGDP00799 0.05
Scottish:Scottish4 0.05
Swedish:Sweden20 0.05
Swedish:Sweden6 0.05

[celticdragongod]

you:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 English_Cornwall:HG00160
1.774129 1.845902
English_Cornwall:HG00259 Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146
2.004115 2.017530
English:English2 Swedish:Sweden4
2.085269 2.139760
Scottish:Scottish9 Norwegian:NOR108
2.242359 2.263252

Irish,26.2
Dutch,25
German,9
Shetlandic,8.2
Scottish,7.2
Italy_Medieval_Collegno,6.2
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA,3.8
Sweden_Viking_Age,3.2
Germany_Medieval,2.8
Levanluhta_IA_o,2.2
Tisza_LN,2.2
Scythian_Moldova,1
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,0.8
CWC_Baltic_early,0.6
Afanasievo,0.4
English_Cornwall,0.4
Icelandic,0.4
Tiszapolgar_ECA,0.4
_____________________________
nMonte2

Dutch:Netherlands36 6.40
Irish:Irish1 6.00
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 5.90
Irish:Irish8 5.45
Irish:Irish63 4.35
Scottish:Scottish20 4.10
Dutch:Netherlands54 3.40
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146 3.40
Irish:Irish42 3.20
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb002 3.20
German:German6 3.05
Sweden_Viking_Age:Sigtuna_grt036 2.75
Dutch:Netherlands64 2.45
Dutch:Netherlands58 2.40
German:German21 2.40
Irish:Irish23 2.10
Tisza_LN:I2358 2.10
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15 2.05
Dutch:Netherlands8 2.00
Germany_Medieval:NW_255 2.00
Dutch:Netherlands12 1.90
Irish:Irish65 1.75
Scottish:Scottish9 1.50
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL151 1.45
Scottish:Scottish28 1.30
German:German31 1.25
Scottish:Scottish8 1.20
Levanluhta_IA_o:JK2065 1.15
Dutch:Netherlands7 1.10
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145 1.05
Dutch:Netherlands1 1.00
English_Cornwall:HG00253 1.00
Icelandic:NA15766 0.95
English_Cornwall:HG00252 0.90
Irish:Irish40 0.70
Scottish:Scottish11 0.70
English:English3 0.65
Swedish:Sweden5 0.65
Dutch:Netherlands29 0.60
English_Cornwall:HG00232 0.50
German:German35 0.50
Norwegian:NOR108 0.50
Dutch:Netherlands59 0.45
Irish:Irish46 0.45
Afanasievo:I6711 0.40
Dutch:Netherlands17 0.40
England_MBA:I7579 0.40
German:German45 0.40
Scythian_Moldova:scy311 0.40
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:mur004 0.40
French:French61 0.35
Belgian:Belgium23 0.30
CWC_Baltic_early:I4629 0.30
Dutch:Netherlands22 0.30
Irish:Irish59 0.30
Swedish:Sweden4 0.30
Dutch:Netherlands42 0.25
English:England8 0.25
English_Cornwall:HG00160 0.25
English_Cornwall:HG00261 0.25
England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773 0.20
Irish:Irish43 0.20
Swedish:Sweden22 0.20
Tiszapolgar_ECA:I2354 0.20
English_Cornwall:HG00239 0.15
German:German24 0.15
Irish:Irish49 0.15
Irish:Irish5 0.15
Welsh:WAL003 0.15
Belgian:Belgium9 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands14 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands18 0.10
French:French11 0.10
German:German25 0.10
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9 0.10
Irish:Irish4 0.10
Nordic_IA:RISE174 0.10
Varna_o:ANI163 0.10
Beaker_Britain:I5512 0.05
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ30 0.05
Irish:Irish38 0.05
Irish:Irish55 0.05
Orcadian:HGDP00799 0.05
Scottish:Scottish4 0.05
Swedish:Sweden20 0.05
Swedish:Sweden6 0.05

You did this using the Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt? Cool, thanks!

[Rgvgjhvv]

Is there a difference between this and the nMonte Lukasz does on his reports?

[celticdragongod]

Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt

nMonte3

distance%=0.5163

Irish,26.4
Dutch,24.2
German,8.6
Shetlandic,8.6
Scottish,8
Italy_Medieval_Collegno,5.6
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA,3.8
Sweden_Viking_Age,3.2
Germany_Medieval,2.8
Tisza_LN,2.4
Levanluhta_IA_o,2.2
Scythian_Moldova,1
Icelandic,0.8
English_Cornwall,0.6
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,0.6
Afanasievo,0.4
CWC_Baltic_early,0.4
Norwegian,0.2
Swedish,0.2

nMonte2

2. FULL TABLE nMONTE

distance%=0.582 / distance=0.00582

Irish:Irish1 7.05
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 5.65
Irish:Irish8 5.50
Irish:Irish42 4.70
Dutch:Netherlands36 4.30
Scottish:Scottish20 4.30
Irish:Irish63 3.55
Sweden_Viking_Age:Sigtuna_grt036 3.40
Dutch:Netherlands64 3.05
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb002 2.90
Germany_Medieval:NW_255 2.85
German:German6 2.80
Scottish:Scottish9 2.75
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146 2.65
Dutch:Netherlands54 2.60
German:German21 2.35
Irish:Irish23 2.30
Dutch:Netherlands58 2.25
Tisza_LN:I2358 2.20
German:German31 1.75
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15 1.60
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL151 1.60
Dutch:Netherlands12 1.50
Dutch:Netherlands8 1.35
Scottish:Scottish28 1.35
Irish:Irish65 1.30
Icelandic:NA15766 1.25
Dutch:Netherlands59 1.20
Levanluhta_IA_o:JK2065 1.20
Dutch:Netherlands1 1.05
Afanasievo:I6711 0.85
Dutch:Netherlands29 0.80
Dutch:Netherlands7 0.80
Scottish:Scottish8 0.80
English:England8 0.75
German:German45 0.75
German:German35 0.70
Norwegian:NOR108 0.70
Swedish:Sweden5 0.70
Scottish:Scottish11 0.65
English_Cornwall:HG00232 0.60
Irish:Irish40 0.60
Irish:Irish46 0.55
English:English3 0.50
English_Cornwall:HG00252 0.50
Swedish:Sweden4 0.50
CWC_Baltic_early:I4629 0.45
English_Cornwall:HG00160 0.40
English_Cornwall:HG00261 0.40
Swedish:Sweden22 0.40
English_Cornwall:HG00253 0.35
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145 0.35
Dutch:Netherlands17 0.30
Scythian_Moldova:scy311 0.30
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:mur004 0.25
Tiszapolgar_ECA:I2354 0.25
Dutch:Netherlands42 0.20
German:German24 0.20
Irish:Irish4 0.20
Irish:Irish59 0.20
Irish:Irish61 0.20
Welsh:WAL003 0.20
Belgian:Belgium23 0.15
Irish:Irish38 0.15
Beaker_Britain:I2450 0.10
Beaker_Central_Europe:I5529 0.10
Belgian:Belgium9 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands14 0.10
Dutch:Netherlands22 0.10
England_MBA:I7579 0.10
French:French17 0.10
German:German27 0.10
Iberia_N:mur 0.10
Irish:Irish20 0.10
Irish:Irish34 0.10
Irish:Irish49 0.10
Scottish:Scottish4 0.10
Balkans_ChL:I0781 0.05
Dutch:Netherlands18 0.05
Dutch:Netherlands32 0.05
England_Roman:6DT3 0.05
French:French15 0.05
French:French20 0.05
French:French61 0.05
German:German26 0.05
German:German58 0.05
Ireland_EBA:Rathlin1 0.05
Irish:Irish33 0.05
Nordic_IA:RISE174 0.05
Orcadian:S_Orcadian-2 0.05
Swedish:Sweden17 0.05


3. RESTRICTED nMONTE

distance%=0.5097 / distance=0.005097

Dutch:Netherlands36 16.70
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL151 10.20
Shetlandic:Shetlands3 7.15
Irish:Irish1 6.40
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb002 6.10
Dutch:Netherlands54 6.00
Dutch:Netherlands12 5.75
Scottish:Scottish20 5.55
Irish:Irish65 5.05
German:German21 4.95
Irish:Irish63 4.75
Irish:Irish8 4.50
Tisza_LN:I2358 3.55
Dutch:Netherlands64 3.30
Sweden_Viking_Age:Sigtuna_grt036 2.75
Germany_Medieval:NW_255 2.60
Irish:Irish42 2.50
Levanluhta_IA_o:JK2065 1.10
German:German6 1.00
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15 0.10


nMonte

2. FULL TABLE nMONTE

distance%=0.5109

Dutch:Netherlands36,13
Shetlandic:Shetlands3,8.4
Scottish:Scottish20,7.6
Irish:Irish63,6.7
Irish:Irish8,6.7
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL151,6.2
Irish:Irish1,5.4
Dutch:Netherlands54,5.2
Dutch:Netherlands64,4.9
German:German21,4.2
Irish:Irish42,3.9
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb002,3.5
Dutch:Netherlands12,3.1
Sweden_Viking_Age:Sigtuna_grt036,2.8
Tisza_LN:I2358,2.8
German:German6,2.7
Irish:Irish65,2.5
Levanluhta_IA_o:JK2065,2.1
Germany_Medieval:NW_255,2
Scythian_Moldova:scy311,1
CWC_Baltic_early:I4629,0.9
Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL146,0.8
German:German35,0.7
Scottish:Scottish9,0.5
Afanasievo:I6711,0.4
Dutch:Netherlands58,0.4
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15,0.3
Icelandic:NA15766,0.3
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:mur004,0.3
Dutch:Netherlands59,0.2
Scottish:Scottish28,0.2
Dutch:Netherlands8,0.1
Irish:Irish23,0.1
Scottish:Scottish11,0.1

[celticdragongod]

My results:

nMonte3

Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
1.700078 1.720436 1.810836 1.871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
1.885360 1.905197 1.919219 2.037917


"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.2916"

English_Cornwall,48.2
Shetlandic,30.2
Nordic_IA,13.8
Varna_o,5.8
West_Siberia_N_low_res,1
Gupta,0.2
Irish,0.2
Mentese_N,0.2
Vucedol,0.2
Welsh,0.2

nMonte2

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Scottish Shetlandic English_Cornwall Irish
0.01700078 0.01720436 0.01810836 0.01871562
Orcadian English Dutch Welsh
0.01885360 0.01905197 0.01919219 0.02037917

"2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"

"distance%=1.3321 / distance=0.013321"

English_Cornwall 28.30
Shetlandic 24.55
Nordic_IA 16.65
Irish 9.25
Varna_o 6.05
Welsh 4.75
Scottish 3.55
England_Anglo-Saxon 1.90
Vucedol 1.05
West_Siberia_N_low_res 0.85
English 0.80
Ukraine_N_o 0.75
Icelandic 0.60
Netherlands_BA 0.30
Gupta 0.10
Mentese_N 0.10
Orcadian 0.10
Remedello_BA 0.10
Swedish 0.10
England_Roman 0.05
Scotland_LBA 0.05
Spanish_Aragon 0.05

"3. RESTRICTED nMONTE"

English_Cornwall 39.8
Shetlandic 38.2
Nordic_IA 16.7
Varna_o 3.9
Vucedol 1.4

nMonte

2. FULL TABLE nMONTE

distance%=1.2914

English_Cornwall,48.5
Shetlandic,29.7
Nordic_IA,13.7
Varna_o,5.9
West_Siberia_N_low_res,1.1
Vucedol,0.5
Welsh,0.3
Gupta,0.1
Irish,0.1
Mentese_N,0.1

[karakartal]

Is there a difference between this and the nMonte Lukasz does on his reports?

Lukasz use Eurogenes K36 results and have a different spreadsheet. Global 25 use your raw data coordinates and have a different spreadsheet.

[Kaspias]

G25 is Davidski's work, K36 is Lukasz's work. They have different methods and different spreadsheet.

[Lemgrant]

Comparing my results from different DNA testing services with Davidski's approach:

This is my result from AncestryDNA: https://i.imgur.com/9z8P449.png

This is my result from MyHeritage (with AncestryDNA raw data file): https://i.imgur.com/ODNYxs6.png

This is my result from DNA.Land: https://i.imgur.com/OdiJYwp.png

My result from GenePlaza K29 calculator: 45% Baltic, 44% Slavic (South+East), Greek-Albanian 2.5%, Tatar 8%, 0.5% Native American (Pima)

This is my result from WeGene: https://i.imgur.com/DsDhDfh.png

Davidski's quote:

It's an unfortunate reality that most commercial genetic ancestry tests out there are rather lame. They're not wrong per se, but that's probably the best that can be said about them. And let's be honest, that's no longer enough considering how far this area of science has come in recent years.

To try and remedy this problem, I'll be offering a wide range of highly accurate and unique, but low cost, ancestry tests here, in my makeshift online store, based on analyses on my other blog (see here). These tests will focus on either recent or ancient ancestry, or both, using the latest reference samples from scientific literature whenever possible. To make a purchase, send your request, autosomal genotype data (from AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA, MyHeritage or 23andMe) and money (via PayPal) to eurogenesblog at gmail dot com

My results with Global 25 coordinates, nMonte and Davidski's spreadsheets:

nMonte3

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
Latvian,29.6
Hungarian,13.2
Polish,12.4
Russian_Tver,9.2
Belarusian,8.6
Ukrainian,6
Czech,3.8
Baltic_BA,2.2
Romanian,2.2
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA,2.2
German,1.4
Croatian,1.2
Krasnoyarsk_MLBA,1.2
TDLN,1.2
Austrian,0.6
Mordovian,0.6
Chuvash,0.4
Darra_i_kur,0.4
Hungary_LCA,0.4
Naxi,0.4
Yemenite_Mahra,0.4
Baltic_IA,0.2
Bolivian_LaPaz,0.2
Brahmin_Manipuri,0.2
Cossack_Kuban,0.2
Korean,0.2
Levant_BA_South,0.2
Levant_N,0.2
Lithuanian,0.2
Macedonian,0.2
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP,0.2
Russian_Orel,0.2
Sweden_Viking_Age,0.2


nMonte3

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
Cossack_Kuban,36.4
Latvian,35
Golden_Horde_European,10
Mentese_N,6.6
Yamnaya_Karagash,3.8
Darra_i_kur,2.6
Slovakian,2.2
Sweden_MN,1.8
England_IA,1.2
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP,0.2
Petrovka_MLBA,0.2
__________________________________________________ _________

nMonte2 and Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt (individual references)

Latvian:latvian54A2 6.00
Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 5.70
Polish: Polish21 5.25
Hungarian:NA15207 5.20
Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 5.15
Latvian:latvian54F2 4.95
Belarusian:Belarusian7 4.65
Ukrainian:Ukrainian3 3.75
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns25 3.40
Czech:Czech_Republic2 3.10
Croatian:Croatia_Cro26 2.95
Polish: Polish1 2.55
Polish: Polish5 2.55
Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179 2.50
Austrian:Austria13 2.25
Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 2.20
German:German71 2.15
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns209 2.10
Baltic_IA: DA171 2.00
Macedonian:Macedonian7 1.85
Krasnoyarsk_MLBA:I3392 1.75
Lithuanian:LithuanianF1 1.70
Polish: Polish4 1.55
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb005 1.55
Polish: Polish23 1.25
Kairan_MLBA:I4567 1.15
Mordovian:Mordovian10 1.15
Ukrainian:Ukrainian22 1.10
Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6 0.90
Baltic_BA:Kivutkalns222 0.80
Estonian:S_Estonian-2 0.80
German:German73 0.80
Polish: Polish35 0.80
Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 0.80
Bosnian:Bosnian_14 0.75
Golden_Horde_European: DA29 0.60
Lithuanian:LithuanianE2 0.60
Romanian:A325 0.60
TDLN:I1899 0.60
Russian_Kostroma:Russia_Kostr138 0.55
German:German8 0.50
Karelian:Karelia10 0.50
Korean:ND19394 0.50
Mordovian:Mordovian8 0.50
Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol34 0.45
Russian_Smolensk:Russia_Smol304 0.35
Karelian:karelia3 0.30
Polish: Polish25 0.30
Darra_i_kur: Darra_i_kur 0.25
Mordovian:Mordovian1 0.25
Mordovian:Mordovian18 0.25
Ukrainian:Ukrainian15 0.25
Ukrainian:Ukrainian18 0.25
German:German62 0.20
Hungarian:NA15200 0.20
Karelian:karelia1 0.20
Levant_BA_South:I1705 0.20
Naxi:HGDP01344 0.20
Polish: Polish28 0.20
Polish: Polish29 0.20
Beaker_Central_Europe:I3600 0.15
Belarusian:Belarusian10 0.15
French:French10 0.15
Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo20 0.15
Moldovan:748_R02C01 0.15
Polish: Polish27 0.15
Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5 0.15
Austrian:Austria7 0.10
Bolivian_LaPaz:Bolivian39 0.10
Croatian:Croatia_Cro141 0.10
Czech:NA15725 0.10
French:French62 0.10
French:French8 0.10
German:German48 0.10
Hungary_LCA:I5117 0.10
Miao:S_Miao-2 0.10
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP:I2261 0.10
Polish: Polish26 0.10
Surui:HGDP00832 0.10
Austrian:Austria16 0.05
Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2 0.05
Beaker_Britain:I2568 0.05
Belarusian:Belarusian14 0.05
Belarusian:Belarusian4 0.05
Belgian:Belgium8 0.05
Chuvash:544_R02C02 0.05
Chuvash:559_R02C01 0.05
Czech:NA15733 0.05
Dutch:Netherlands22 0.05
Estonian:Est372 0.05
Estonian:Est397 0.05
Finnish:HG00173 0.05
French:French47 0.05
German:German12 0.05
German:German23 0.05
German:German4 0.05
German:German67 0.05
German_East:German_East3 0.05
Germany_Medieval:AED_106 0.05
Levant_BA_South:I1706 0.05
Lithuanian:LithuanianD1 0.05
Maitan_MLBA_Alakul:I6794 0.05
Mentese_N:I0723 0.05
Mordovian:Mordovian12 0.05
Mordovian:Mordovian5 0.05
Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA:I3861 0.05
Russian_Kostroma:Russia_Kostr128 0.05
Russian_Voronez:RussianVoron105 0.05
Scythian_Ukraine:scy009 0.05
Slovakian:Slovakia85 0.05
Srubnaya-Alakulskaya_MLBA:kzb009 0.05
Vepsian:vepsa34 0.05

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nMonte2 and Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt:

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

Cossack_Kuban 32.30
Latvian 21.05
Golden_Horde_European 16.20
Slovakian 8.15
Mentese_N 5.25
Russian_Tver 3.30
Darra_i_kur 2.65
Baltic_IA 2.60
Yamnaya_Karagash 2.55
Petrovka_MLBA 1.35
Sweden_MN 1.00
England_IA 0.75
Lithuanian 0.75
Khvalynsk_Eneolithic 0.40
Halberstadt_LBA 0.35
Beaker_Central_Europe_no_steppe 0.25
Cossack_Ukrainian 0.25
Koros_HG 0.25
Peru_LaGalgada_4100BP 0.20
Iberia_Central_CA 0.15
Poltavka_o 0.10
England_LBA 0.05
Montenegrin 0.05
Unknown_MLBA 0.05

[FilhoV]

nMonte w ith penalization=0 function, rather speculative or showing deeper ancestry "distance%=9.1217"

Asturia,73.8
Romanian_Jew,7.8
TUN_Gabes,7
ALG_Kabylie,4.2
Sephardi_Portugal_Belmonte,3
Andalusia,2
La_Rioja,1
Hadza,0.8
Pl_Central,0.4

[Lemgrant]

nMonte w ith penalization=0 function, rather speculative or showing deeper ancestry "distance%=9.1217"

Asturia,73.8
Romanian_Jew,7.8
TUN_Gabes,7
ALG_Kabylie,4.2
Sephardi_Portugal_Belmonte,3
Andalusia,2
La_Rioja,1
Hadza,0.8
Pl_Central,0.4

I don't think this is from global 25 coordinates. Looks like K36 report from LM genetics

[Vasconcelos]

A distance of 9 is worthless aswell

[FilhoV]

A distance of 9 is worthless aswell

Absolutely my kit is the only one that I’ve seen with some crazy distances on this particular test

[Vasconcelos]

Absolutely my kit is the only one that I’ve seen with some crazy distances on this particular test

I suggest you don't pay any attention to it then, and instead focus on models that seem actually decent. Even the ones in your sig have a very "meh" distance. I suppose that's K36 Admix4 oracle, mine were a bit rubbish aswell particularly with LSM (Gaussian wasn't as bad - 4% fits). nMonte3 models seemed better

[Lucas]

I suggest you don't pay any attention to it then, and instead focus on models that seem actually decent. Even the ones in your sig have a very "meh" distance. I suppose that's K36 Admix4 oracle, mine were a bit rubbish aswell particularly with LSM (Gaussian wasn't as bad - 4% fits). nMonte3 models seemed better

Admix4 oracle has about ten 10 times higher distance in K36 comparing to nMonte. It is simply question of it. Everyone has distances about 3, 4 or 5 or 9, which are counterpart of 0.3, 0.4, 0.5 or 0.9. I can't change it by myself in code but I really want.

I'm not sure what about Filhov nMonte distance. I think it could be also 0.9. Maybe I did report for him with older nMonte version by accident.

[Vasconcelos]

Btw Lukasz what happened to you back in Anthrogenica?

[FilhoV]

Btw Lukasz what happened to you back in Anthrogenica?

Banned for no reason such as myself

[FilhoV]

Admix4 oracle has about ten 10 times higher distance in K36 comparing to nMonte. It is simply question of it. Everyone has distances about 3, 4 or 5 or 9, which are counterpart of 0.3, 0.4, 0.5 or 0.9. I can't change it by myself in code but I really want.

I'm not sure what about Filhov nMonte distance. I think it could be also 0.9. Maybe I did report for him with older nMonte version by accident.

I got the older version my wife has the newer

[FinalFlash]

Global25 or k36? Which is better for you guys? I like the Global25

[Leto]

Banned for no reason such as myself
AG is run by a bunch of assholes.

[Vasconcelos]

AG is run by a bunch of assholes.

Not at all, but they are strick with rules and it makes the place a lot smoother and troll free when compared to...other places



Banned for no reason such as myself
You actually got banned because of multiple accounts, I asked the admins directly because I found it odd

[Gründig]

Here's a modern run:

1.1305

German,58.33
Dutch,20.83
French,20.83

[Kaspias]

Absolutely my kit is the only one that I’ve seen with some crazy distances on this particular test

I got 7.

[Mingle]

G25 is Davidski's work, K36 is Lukasz's work. They have different methods and different spreadsheet.

Which is more accurate in your opinion?

[Kaspias]

Lukasz's report was mora accurate for me because he has more population in the spreadsheet. On the other hand G25 is using more recent(supposed to be more accurate) method. If you are interesting with your ancient roots i would recommend to G25 because it is flexible, have ancient pops too, you can use everytime as long as G25 method improves. Otherwise, K36 report would be better option for now.

[Leto]

Not at all, but they are strick with rules and it makes the place a lot smoother and troll free when compared to...other places



You actually got banned because of multiple accounts, I asked the admins directly because I found it odd
If they didn't hesitate to ban Lukasz, one of the most knowledgeable and prominent members, a guy who actually creates calculators, then it speaks volumes to me.

[Lucas]

Not at all, but they are strick with rules and it makes the place a lot smoother and troll free when compared to...other places
d

So me and Kurd (he is well-known creator of Gedmatch and Geneplaza calculators), we are trolls? He was banned in the same time as me. And don't trust what admin tells you they simply banned us because of our commercial activity. It is true but hidden reason. Kurd was a troll or had sockpuppets, laughable... Only mysterious thing to me if one of the admins was jealous (not all, some I know and were cool guys), or maybe we must look who isn't banned and who do similar things like two of us...

First I got one-week suspension for bumping thread (one, in DNA.LAND section). Then I didn't know what happened and I asked someone whom I know if I can login from his account to make PM to admins. They banned it and they told me it was my second account.
LOL it is this account "vasyl". It has nothing to do with me, check his posts. https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3527-Post-your-Eurogenes-V2-K15-results&p=344768&viewfull=1#post344768
They can't find another "my account" because there are simply no such ones.

For this I had another three months suspension (only becasuse I wanted to ask what happened, much later I received email from admins). So after few days I proposed him that I can make donation (100 USD) and they could remove this laughable suspension for nothing. So they banned me because I wanted "to bribe" them. Hilarious, I wrote clearly in email it is for server security reasons as you know they have serious problems in last months with it.

But it was something going on since few weeks.
First they "accidentally" deleted my K36 thread (biggest thread on this forum btw).
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?15918-Why-my-probably-longest-thread-on-this-forum-was-deleted-today
Maybe they wanted check my reaction, to have reason to ban.

Then few days later they told me my account LukaszM should be changed to LM Genetics because I use forum for commercial reasons. They also suggested that I started too many threads about my reports when as you know I only post in K36 Unoficial Thread about it.
Then I answered that ok I have no choice, change it to LM Genetics.

Few days later they attacked me with one week suspension for bumping (details above) and they told after one week I will obtain login to LM Genetic account (new) and LukaszM will stay inactive (with about 5000 posts history). What was after, it is above.

So even without ban I would be forced to use new account, with different name, with no posts. And I would be much less credible for users. Everything tells us it was becasue someone wants to fight with me using dirty methods... But I'm not so easy to defeat:)

[Vasconcelos]

I'm not going to judge what happened, nor whether they did the right thing or not as it is not my place to do it. I just said they are strict - which they are. And it's also factual that the place has very little trolls as a consequence of their strict policy. When I was a moderator here I was pretty much the same, but naturally it was pointless so I quit and left TA. Now I'm just here to check calculator results and whatnot

[Lucas]

I'm not going to judge what happened, nor whether they did the right thing or not as it is not my place to do it. I just said they are strict - which they are. And it's also factual that the place has very little trolls as a consequence of their strict policy. When I was a moderator here I was pretty much the same, but naturally it was pointless so I quit and left TA. Now I'm just here to check calculator results and whatnot

I'm also proponent of banning REAL trolls who fight with others for no reason, derail threads or write obscene and aggresive posts. If I'm such person? Or Kurd?
But me and Kurd are members whose threads bring them new users and traffic (and still there are).
My K36 thread has 366 000 views. No one on anthrogenica is better.
So it is irrelvant if they are strict about trolls. In our cases different things were in use. It is like comparing apples to oranges.

I will repeat


Few days later they attacked me with one week suspension for bumping (details above) and they told after one week I will obtain login to LM Genetic account (new) and LukaszM will stay inactive (with about 5000 posts history). What was after, it is above.

So even without ban I would be forced to use new account, with different name, with no posts. And I would be much less credible for users. Everything tells us it was becasue someone wants to fight with me using dirty methods...

[Lemgrant]

my result:
https://i.imgur.com/RBnMvNR.png
Cossacks include both Russians and Ukrainians, this is the best fit I could achieve by trying different components

[FilhoV]

Filhov_

Iberia_North_IA 57.6%
Anatolia EBA Isparta 21.6%
Guanche_Canary Islands 13%
Iberia Northeast Empuries 7.8%

Distance 2.1156%

[Vasconcelos]

Filhov_

Iberia_North_IA 57.6%
Anatolia EBA Isparta 21.6%
Guanche_Canary Islands 13%
Iberia Northeast Empuries 7.8%

Distance 2.1156%

Anatolia EBA is an odd choice for an IA model, there are options that make more sense.
Here's another one with all samples from Olalde papaer, and the new Guanche ones included on the dataset. The IA Iberian samples were merged under one label (Iberia_IA) too

[1] "distance%=0.8619"

FilhoV

Iberia_IA,66.6
Roman_Imperial_proxy,26.2
Guanche_Canary_Islands,7.2



Same as before, but with the four Visigoths included. The fit improves slightly, so there must be some truth to it, although I'm skeptical of the value in itself.

[1] "distance%=0.815"

FilhoV

Iberia_IA,56.6
Roman_Imperial_proxy,19.8
Visigothic,16.6
Guanche_Canary_Islands,7

[FilhoV]

Anatolia EBA is an odd choice for an IA model, there are options that make more sense.
Here's another one with all samples from Olalde papaer, and the new Guanche ones included on the dataset. The IA Iberian samples were merged under one label (Iberia_IA) too

[1] "distance%=0.8619"

FilhoV

Iberia_IA,66.6
Roman_Imperial_proxy,26.2
Guanche_Canary_Islands,7.2



Same as before, but with the four Visigoths included. The fit improves slightly, so there must be some truth to it, although I'm skeptical of the value in itself.

[1] "distance%=0.815"

FilhoV

Iberia_IA,56.6
Roman_Imperial_proxy,19.8
Visigothic,16.6
Guanche_Canary_Islands,7

I agree thanks mate