Incredible variation in Lebanese Muslims

[Aren]

For such a small country, it seems to be big variation with different pulls. They seem to have mixed with basically every Muslim group in the MENA region and beyond.

First one is a Shia Lebanese, notice the ratio of the Caucasus/Armenian components to the South Central Asian, often absent in Levantine Christians. Clearly strong Iranian pull. But interestingly enough he's still scoring rather high African.

Amerindian -
Arabian 7.40
Armenian 7.02
Basque 0.28
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.72
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 20.18
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 5.90
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.12
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 23.73
North_African 5.12
North_Atlantic 2.66
North_Caucasian 5.35
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 3.55
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 7.02
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 0.24
West_Caucasian 1.39
West_Med 1.31

Another Shia, but this time a totally different shift towards Egyptians and Bedouins with over 7% African. Plots with Jordanians.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.78
2 West_Asian 21.65
3 Red_Sea 14.86
4 West_Med 12.22
5 Northeast_African 6.37
6 Baltic 1.12
7 Sub-Saharan 1.04
8 East_Asian 0.95
9 North_Atlantic 0.74
10 South_Asian 0.59
11 Oceanian 0.45
12 Siberian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanian 4.04
2 Syrian 5.61
3 Palestinian 6.66
4 Lebanese_Muslim 7.29
5 Samaritan 8.33
6 Bedouin 9.29
7 Lebanese_Christian 9.62
8 Kurdish_Jewish 11.39
9 Lebanese_Druze 11.84
10 Iranian_Jewish 12.03
11 Cyprian 12.41
12 Assyrian 13.71
13 Libyan_Jewish 14.68
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.93
15 Egyptian 15.17
16 Georgian_Jewish 16.11
17 Turkish 18.2
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.42
19 Algerian_Jewish 19.22
20 Armenian 19.42

This is a Sunni Arab with a strong Azeri/Turkish shift. Very high West Asian in addition to a clear Siberian admixture.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.86
2 West_Asian 28.18
3 West_Med 10.41
4 Red_Sea 9.87
5 North_Atlantic 5.24
6 South_Asian 3.57
7 Northeast_African 2.75
8 East_Asian 2.06
9 Baltic 1.25
10 Siberian 0.55
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Sub-Saharan 0.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 36.2% Azeri @ 2.81
2 68.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.2% Kurdish @ 2.95
3 55.7% Azeri + 44.3% Samaritan @ 3.13
4 55.1% Azeri + 44.9% Palestinian @ 3.19
5 69.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.1% Iranian @ 3.37
6 59.9% Syrian + 40.1% Azeri @ 3.37
7 50.3% Palestinian + 49.7% Kurdish @ 3.38
8 65.1% Syrian + 34.9% Kurdish @ 3.39
9 65% Palestinian + 35% Georgian @ 3.49
10 67.4% Palestinian + 32.6% Ossetian @ 3.53

[FinalFlash]

Post their global25

[Aren]

Post their global25

Hehe you know, barely anyone has coordinates for Davids Global 25 spreadsheet, it's not like Gedmatch.

[Profileid]

The difference between Lebanese Muslims and Christians is almost nonexistent

[FinalFlash]

Hehe you know, barely anyone has coordinates for Davids Global 25 spreadsheet, it's not like Gedmatch.

Word is that Gedmatch is obsolete. Go on post some individuals and their oracles. Lol

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/02/unleash-power-global-25-test-drive.html?m=1

[Aren]

The difference between Lebanese Muslims and Christians is almost nonexistent

Indeed I bet you can find Lebanese Christians scoring like this :laugh:

[Aren]

Word is that Gedmatch is obsolete. Go on post some individuals and their oracles. Lol

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/02/unleash-power-global-25-test-drive.html?m=1

I don't understand how you can for real think that random people who have uploaded onto Gedmatch are aware of Davids blog and his little project. Ofc they don't have coordinates for his spreadsheet.

[Haider]

The 'Shia' result is clearly adulterated. Never seen one score less than 44/45% East Med. They tend to score among the highest East Med in the region alongside Druze.

[FinalFlash]

I don't understand how you can for real think that random people who have uploaded onto Gedmatch are aware of Davids blog and his little project. Ofc they don't have coordinates for his spreadsheet.

I know the sample sizes are very very limited but there are some coordinates there that you can use. Maybe "obsolete" wasnt the right choice of word.

[FinalFlash]

I don't understand how you can for real think that random people who have uploaded onto Gedmatch are aware of Davids blog and his little project. Ofc they don't have coordinates for his spreadsheet.

Deleted.

[Aren]

I know the sample sizes are very very limited but there are some coordinates there that you can use. Maybe "obsolete" wasnt the right choice of word.

I'm not really understanding what you are trying to say. In order to be able to use Davids spredsheet to model yourself you need to send him your raw data and then he will give you coordinates once you pay pay him.

[FinalFlash]

I'm not really understanding what you are trying to say. In order to be able to use Davids spredsheet to model yourself you need to send him your raw data and then he will give you coordinates once you pay pay him.

That link I showed you has individual coordinates of random populations you can run using nMonte. Lebanese have some you can use. I'm not talking about any one specific person here.

[Aren]

Another Shia

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.3
2 West_Asian 21.98
3 West_Med 13.43
4 Red_Sea 11.93
5 North_Atlantic 4.17
6 Baltic 2.96
7 Northeast_African 2.85
8 Sub-Saharan 1.85
9 East_Asian 1.1
10 South_Asian 0.26
11 Oceanian 0.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Egyptian @ 2.72
2 86.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.8% Bedouin @ 2.73
3 78.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.8% Jordanian @ 2.8
4 94.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.8% Tunisian @ 2.97
5 83.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.6% Palestinian @ 2.97
6 94.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.4% Algerian @ 2.99
7 98% Lebanese_Muslim + 2% Maasai @ 3
8 97.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.6% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3
9 94.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.6% Saudi @ 3
10 95.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 3
11 97.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.01
12 98% Lebanese_Muslim + 2% Sandawe @ 3.01
13 95.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.9% Moroccan @ 3.01
14 98.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.6% San @ 3.04
15 97.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.1% Somali @ 3.04
16 97.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.04
17 98.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.04
18 98.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.05
19 98.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.4% Luhya @ 3.05
20 98.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 1.6% Sudanese @ 3.06

And a mixed Sunni-Shia with a strong Iranian shift

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.62
2 West_Asian 27.17
3 Red_Sea 11.12
4 West_Med 9.88
5 North_Atlantic 3.11
6 South_Asian 2.94
7 Baltic 2.77
8 Sub-Saharan 2.38
9 Northeast_African 1.87
10 Oceanian 0.13
11 East_Asian 0.01

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.62
2 West_Asian 27.17
3 Red_Sea 11.12
4 West_Med 9.88
5 North_Atlantic 3.11
6 South_Asian 2.94
7 Baltic 2.77
8 Sub-Saharan 2.38
9 Northeast_African 1.87
10 Oceanian 0.13
11 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.79
2 Iranian_Jewish 5.96
3 Kurdish_Jewish 5.99
4 Syrian 6.67
5 Assyrian 7.03
6 Georgian_Jewish 9.34
7 Jordanian 10.51
8 Lebanese_Druze 10.82
9 Lebanese_Christian 11.44
10 Palestinian 11.92
11 Cyprian 12.06
12 Samaritan 12.26
13 Turkish 12.46
14 Armenian 12.86
15 Azeri 14.06
16 Iranian 15.51
17 Bedouin 15.62
18 Kurdish 15.96
19 Tunisian_Jewish 17.53
20 Libyan_Jewish 18.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.5% Georgian_Jewish + 43.5% Palestinian @ 2.85
2 77.3% Assyrian + 22.7% Egyptian @ 3.01
3 53.2% Georgian_Jewish + 46.8% Jordanian @ 3.03
4 71% Georgian_Jewish + 29% Egyptian @ 3.05
5 70.8% Assyrian + 29.2% Bedouin @ 3.06
6 60% Syrian + 40% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.2
7 57.7% Palestinian + 42.3% Kurdish @ 3.22
8 75.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 24.1% Iranian @ 3.23
9 71.3% Palestinian + 28.7% Abhkasian @ 3.31
10 51.7% Syrian + 48.3% Assyrian @ 3.32
11 61.7% Assyrian + 38.3% Jordanian @ 3.33
12 87% Iranian_Jewish + 13% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.36
13 56.2% Samaritan + 43.8% Iranian @ 3.39
14 86.5% Iranian_Jewish + 13.5% Algerian @ 3.4
15 70.3% Palestinian + 29.7% Georgian @ 3.43
16 86% Iranian_Jewish + 14% Tunisian @ 3.48
17 52% Palestinian + 48% Armenian @ 3.48
18 87.3% Iranian_Jewish + 12.7% Moroccan @ 3.51
19 54.1% Iranian_Jewish + 45.9% Syrian @ 3.55
20 86.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 13.3% Algerian @ 3.59

[Aren]

That link I showed you has individual coordinates of random populations you can run using nMonte. Lebanese have some you can use. I'm not talking about any one specific person here.

Ah alright. But the sample base is very limited.

[FinalFlash]

Ah alright. But the sample base is very limited.

Yes lol!! The hell do you think I've been saying!?!!?

[Haider]

These are typical Shia results with verified genealogy


1.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 44.52
2 West_Asian 18.33
3 West_Med 15.06
4 Red_Sea 9.82
5 North_Atlantic 6.36
6 South_Asian 2.23
7 Northeast_African 2
8 Baltic 1.26
9 Siberian 0.4
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

2.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.21
2 West_Asian 20.89
3 West_Med 14.63
4 Red_Sea 9.46
5 North_Atlantic 5.85
6 South_Asian 1.35
7 Northeast_African 1.12
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 Baltic 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.3
11 East_Asian 0.08


3.
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 46.72
2 West_Asian 19.65
3 West_Med 15.19
4 Red_Sea 9.24
5 North_Atlantic 4.36
6 South_Asian 1.92
7 Northeast_African 1.58
8 Baltic 1.13
9 Siberian 0.2
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

[Aren]

Yes lol!! The hell do you think I've been saying!?!!?

Well you asked first if he had coordinates for Davids spreadsheet, which is pretty werid thing to ask so I was kinda confused.

[FinalFlash]

Well you asked first if he had coordinates for Davids spreadsheet, which is pretty werid thing to ask so I was kinda confused.

No man I gave you the link to post random individual Lebanese results from global25.

[Aren]

A lot of Shia Lebanese who have gotten tested apparently. Here are some more interesting cases, and again the variation is quite big.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.92
2 West_Asian 23.58
3 West_Med 14.59
4 Red_Sea 10.55
5 North_Atlantic 6.02
6 Northeast_African 4.64
7 South_Asian 2.06
8 Baltic 1.53
9 Oceanian 0.09

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.28
2 West_Asian 19.29
3 West_Med 11.13
4 Red_Sea 10.93
5 North_Atlantic 6.81
6 Northeast_African 4.54
7 Sub-Saharan 2.12
8 East_Asian 1.11
9 South_Asian 1.05
10 Baltic 0.94
11 Oceanian 0.79

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.38
2 West_Asian 24.64
3 West_Med 15.4
4 Red_Sea 10.59
5 Northeast_African 2.66
6 South_Asian 2.59
7 North_Atlantic 1.35
8 Oceanian 0.71
9 Sub-Saharan 0.69

[Haider]

The difference between Lebanese Muslims and Christians is almost nonexistent

OP is a borderline who takes heavy anti-depression medication and I just learned he has had several socks that were banned.

Now he has been following me around and harassing me for MONTHS, from sending me offensive pm and rep comments to abusively using thumbs down against me. He's obsessed with me for some reason and wants my attention. Weirdly enough, he has demonstrated the same behaviour against other users like Stormy Arabia and Tippo900.

[Aren]

OP is a borderline who takes heavy anti-depression medication and I just learned he has had several socks that were banned.

Now he has been following me around and harassing me for MONTHS, from sending me offensive pm and rep comments to abusively using thumbs down against me. He's obsessed with me for some reason and wants my attention. Weirdly enough, he has demonstrated the same behaviour against other users like Stormy Arabia and Tippo900.

:confused: :confused:

You need help?

[Profileid]

OP is a borderline who takes heavy anti-depression medication and I just learned he has had several socks that were banned.

Now he has been following me around and harassing me for MONTHS, from sending me offensive pm and rep comments to abusively using thumbs down against me. He's obsessed with me for some reason and wants my attention. Weirdly enough, he has demonstrated the same behaviour against other users like Stormy Arabia and Tippo900.

I'm sorry to hear that

[Profileid]

Indeed I bet you can find Lebanese Christians scoring like this :laugh:

Interesting in light of your pro-Jewish comments. The divide and conquer tactic seems to be popular for MENA Christians in Sweden

[Aren]

Some more Lebanese Muslims

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.84
2 West_Asian 20.39
3 West_Med 13.87
4 Red_Sea 11.96
5 Northeast_African 5.85
6 North_Atlantic 4.62
7 South_Asian 2.14
8 Baltic 1.98
9 Sub-Saharan 0.64
10 Siberian 0.56
11 Oceanian 0.16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.54
2 West_Asian 20.26
3 Red_Sea 12.88
4 West_Med 11.93
5 North_Atlantic 3.57
6 Baltic 2.89
7 South_Asian 2.38
8 Northeast_African 2.01
9 Siberian 1.2
10 Sub-Saharan 0.71
11 Amerindian 0.37
12 Oceanian 0.26

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.65
2 West_Asian 19.44
3 West_Med 14.46
4 Red_Sea 12.6
5 Northeast_African 6.67
6 North_Atlantic 4.19
7 Sub-Saharan 2.31
8 South_Asian 1.33
9 Siberian 1.13
10 Oceanian 0.23

[Aren]

Interesting in light of your pro-Jewish comments. The divide and conquer tactic seems to be popular for MENA Christians in Sweden

Interesting that someone who believes US is the reason Assyrians are leaving the Mideast actually think that she has any valuable comments to make at all.

What does your fierce anti-Semitism have to do with this thread btw?

[Haider]

I'm sorry to hear that

And you know why he created this thread with fake results?
Just because I made a thread about some elderly actress of Kurdish and Assyrian descent. Because according to him Assyrians 'don't mix', so he felt the need to retaliate me. Weird right?

Now he must think I'm some sort of Hadouken or something that I'm complexed about my appearance and genetic results. I've posted both and that's what matters, so I could careless. I've actually never understood why some people are so obsessed wirh their people's 'purity' or appearances, it's like they wanna prove something and 90% of the times they are the ones with complex issues and are usually the outliers and 'exotic' ones in their group.

[Aren]

And you know why he created this thread with fake results?
Just because I made a thread about some elderly actress of Kurdish and Assyrian descent. Because according to him Assyrians 'don't mix', so he felt the need to retaliate me. Weird right?

Now he must think I'm some sort of Hadouken or something that I'm complexed about my appearance and genetic results. I've posted both and that's what matters, so I could careless. I've actually never understood why some people are so obsessed wirh their people's 'purity' or appearances, it's like they wanna prove something and 90% of the times they are the ones with complex issues and are usually the outliers and 'exotic' ones in their group.

The fact that you see this as some kind of "retaliation" is just sick. Very unfortunate that you view genetic variation as some kind of bad thing. Seek help.

These results are not fake, you should stop lying btw.

[Nazarene]

And you know why he created this thread with fake results?
Just because I made a thread about some elderly actress of Kurdish and Assyrian descent. Because according to him Assyrians 'don't mix', so he felt the need to retaliate me. Weird right?

Now he must think I'm some sort of Hadouken or something that I'm complexed about my appearance and genetic results. I've posted both and that's what matters, so I could careless. I've actually never understood why some people are so obsessed wirh their people's 'purity' or appearances, it's like they wanna prove something and 90% of the times they are the ones with complex issues and are usually the outliers and 'exotic' ones in their group.

Lmao you're right about Hadouken, dude was kind of a mess. But it's just a fact that Assyrians didn't mix much with other groups, unlike Lebanese Muslims (and Muslims in general) who have greater ingroup variation. You're an allg dude but why are you accusing someone who disagrees with you to be mentally ill? I think you're overreacting.

[Profileid]

Interesting that someone who believes US is the reason Assyrians are leaving the Mideast actually think that she has any valuable comments to make at all.

What does your fierce anti-Semitism have to do with this thread btw?

I explained my rationale for that pretty clearly in my post.

[Babak]

OP is a borderline who takes heavy anti-depression medication and I just learned he has had several socks that were banned.

Now he has been following me around and harassing me for MONTHS, from sending me offensive pm and rep comments to abusively using thumbs down against me. He's obsessed with me for some reason and wants my attention. Weirdly enough, he has demonstrated the same behaviour against other users like Stormy Arabia and Tippo900.

Wtf lol

[archangel]

guys do not take these tests so seriously and in the end who gives a fuck ?