My LM Genetics Admix4 Oracle

[karakartal]

I have a question for you. Maybe you can help.
82973

I don't have a any Ukranian ancestry. Why my Admix4 Oracle shows Ukraine_Zhytomyr?

What do you think about it?

[karakartal]

Also here is my Gaussian method in LM Genetics report;
83002

[Kaspias]

We got similar.

1 50% Cyprus +25% Pommern +25% Udmurts @

2 50% Cyprus +25% Oberland_western_Ost_Preussen +25% Udmurts @ 5,821739

1 50% GR_Macedonia +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,729791
2 50% GR_Thessaly +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,785307
3 50% GR_Andros +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,787662
4 50% GR_Crete +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,81332
5 50% GR_Andros +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,837698
6 50% GR_Macedonia +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,843086

[karakartal]

We got similar.

1 50% Cyprus +25% Pommern +25% Udmurts @

2 50% Cyprus +25% Oberland_western_Ost_Preussen +25% Udmurts @ 5,821739

1 50% GR_Macedonia +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,729791
2 50% GR_Thessaly +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,785307
3 50% GR_Andros +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,787662
4 50% GR_Crete +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,81332
5 50% GR_Andros +25% Udmurts +25% Azeri @ 4,837698
6 50% GR_Macedonia +25% Komi +25% Azeri @ 4,843086

What do you think? Why our admixture oracles have a Ukranian or Russian population?

[Thracian]

You are half Anatolian Turk and half South Slavic.

South Slavs modelled as Balkan Native(Greek or Albanian) + Slavs (Ukrainian, Russian or Polish). That's why you have some Ukrainian.

[karakartal]

You are half Anatolian Turk and half South Slavic.

South Slavs modelled as Balkan Native(Greek or Albanian) + Slavs (Ukrainian, Russian or Polish). That's why you have some Ukrainian.

Seems logical. Because my correlation map Ukraine doesn't close. Just Crimea region distance close to me.

[Kaspias]

What do you think? Why our admixture oracles have a Ukranian or Russian population?

It doesn't point out our direct ancestry, just about genetic similarity. I got 50% Cyprian+ 50% Ukrainian in Eurogenes too. You should look these oracles as meta-ethnicity. Like:

Greek: Greek or Balkan
Cyprus: East med
Ukraine: Slav
Lezgin: Caucasia etc.

GR points out your balkan or greek ancestry, in my case it's balkan. In your case it is probably greek ancestry. Ukraine is Slav. Lezgin is Caucasian. A mix of those 4 ethnic giving similar results to Balkan Turks.

[karakartal]

Yeah it's seems logical i think. Thank you for your explain. I look your LM Genetics results; your ancestry so mixed.
I think you have a some Kipchak ancestry.

[Kaspias]

Yeah it's seems logical i think. Thank you for your explain. I look your LM Genetics results; your ancestry so mixed.
I think you have a some Kipchak ancestry.

Who knows :D

[Slavic Italian]

You guys need to have Davidski do a IBD run. It's well worth it.

[Lucas]

It doesn't point out our direct ancestry, just about genetic similarity. I got 50% Cyprian+ 50% Ukrainian in Eurogenes too. You should look these oracles as meta-ethnicity. Like:

Greek: Greek or Balkan
Cyprus: East med
Ukraine: Slav
Lezgin: Caucasia etc.

GR points out your balkan or greek ancestry, in my case it's balkan. In your case it is probably greek ancestry. Ukraine is Slav. Lezgin is Caucasian. A mix of those 4 ethnic giving similar results to Balkan Turks.

As Kapsian said. Ukrainian for Balkanites or part Balkanites like you is proxy for Slav ancestry. Only in Admix4 because it is working in the sam way as Gedmatch oracles. Showing more ancient admixtures than nMonte.

[Lucas]

You guys need to have Davidski do a IBD run. It's well worth it.

If somebody is interested in more deep analysis. Recently someone asked me to make K36 Ancestral Report with nMonte runs for all chromosomes separately. And also include them on PCA.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vg2t8y9W0wuJgi6ama0aGUZGDM3Wf7jl/view

Bear in mind that first chromosomes (1-10) are bigger and have more "weight" than rest. So it isn't simple 1+2..+21+22 /22 when we talk about average result presented in Gedmatch

[FilhoV]

The distances on mine are very high


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Asturia+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 9,53256
2 Andalusia+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 9,60195
3 Andalusia+Andalusia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 9,814095
4 Cantabria+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 9,894069
5 Asturia+Asturia+Asturia+TUN_Bizerta @ 9,937851
6 Asturia+Asturia+Asturia+TUN_Siliana @ 9,966651
7 Extremadura+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 10,01205
8 Castilla+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 10,017112
9 Andalusia+Asturia+Asturia+TUN_Bizerta @ 10,027525
10 Andalusia+Cantabria+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 10,038654 11 Aragón+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 10,049091
12 Portugal+Asturia+Asturia+TUIN_Sousse @ 10,062857

[Gründig]

If somebody is interested in more deep analysis. Recently someone asked me to make K36 Ancestral Report with nMonte runs for all chromosomes separately. And also include them on PCA.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vg2t8y9W0wuJgi6ama0aGUZGDM3Wf7jl/view

Bear in mind that first chromosomes (1-10) are bigger and have more "weight" than rest. So it isn't simple 1+2..+21+22 /22 when we talk about average result presented in Gedmatch

I'm interested, how much?

[Lucas]

I'm interested, how much?

Ok update for former customers 5,5 Euro (22 nMonte runs and PCA for all of them). It is simply matter of time to run it step by step (and copying results, formatting them to single item distance table etc).


Report with whole chromosomes analysis would be 15 (8,5 + 6,5) for new customers. But for you update is relevant.



Generally it is good option to have targeted PCA. We could see how our genome is averaged sometimes. In case of guy form example we see that his Slavic ancestry predominates. He is West Prussian.

[Kaspias]

Ok update for former customers 5,5 Euro (22 nMonte runs and PCA for all of them). It is simply matter of time to run it step by step (and copying results, formatting them to single item distance table etc).


Report with whole chromosomes analysis would be 15 (8,5 + 6,5) for new customers. But for you update is relevant.



Generally it is good option to have targeted PCA. We could see how our genome is averaged sometimes. In case of guy form example we see that his Slavic ancestry predominates. He is West Prussian.

Well if i will get same report with this sample i'm interesting with this. I have some problems about my results(all companies, all tools) in general. I think i already said something to you about it before i purchase classic report. I will need your thoughts after the get this new report which is seems like good for mixed people.

Well if i will get same report with this sample then i'm interesting with this. I have some problems about my results(all companies, all tools) in general. I think i already said something to you about it before i purchase classic report. I will need your thoughts after the get this new report which is seems like good for mixed people.