Why do Cretans and Pontic Greeks look alike?

[Voskos]

Discuss.

[Tauromachos]

Do Sphakiots and Pontic Greeks also look alike

or is it just the rest of Cretans?

[Voskos]

First of all it should be reminded that Crete was liberated from Arabs by a Byzantine emperor of Armenian ethnic background, namely Nikiphoros Phokas. It is said that Phokas , after chasing 200k arabs out of the island, settled Pontic Greeks, Armenians and Bulgarians on it.

[Voskos]

Do Sphakiots and Pontic Greeks also look alike

or is it just the rest of Cretans?

imo all of us look like a mix of pontics and (southern)mainland Greeks,possibly with some additional mena admixture.

[Tauromachos]

First of all it should be reminded that Crete was liberated from Arabs by a Byzantine emperor of Armenian ethnic background, namely Nikiphoros Phokas. It is said that Phokas , after chasing 200k arabs out of the island, settled Pontic Greeks, Armenians and Bulgarians on it.

Cretan's DNA is still very similar to Minoans

[Sikeliot]

Cretans have slightly elevated Caucasus admixture compared to other Greeks (more than many other islands, and more than mainlanders) but they are genetically much closer to mainland Greeks than to Pontics.

[Voskos]

Cretans have slightly elevated Caucasus admixture compared to other Greeks (more than many other islands, and more than mainlanders) but they are genetically much closer to mainland Greeks than to Pontics.

genetically they are indeed closer to the mainland but they do show a caucasus pull. here's my grandfather's oracle, he's fully cretan.

1 Cretan_ @ 5.539093
2 Greek_ @ 5.719306
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.243247
4 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.344801
5 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.466509
6 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 6.648370
7 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.721122
8 Italian_South_ @ 7.021358
9 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.236943
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.432107
11 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.118495
12 Central_Greek_ @ 8.413404
13 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.565229
14 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.638451
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.091157
16 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.786330
17 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.868872
18 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 9.966640
19 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.067574
20 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.068285

[Tauromachos]

genetically they are indeed closer to the mainland but they do show a caucasus pull. here's my grandfather's oracle, he's fully cretan.

1 Cretan_ @ 5.539093
2 Greek_ @ 5.719306
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.243247
4 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.344801
5 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.466509
6 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 6.648370
7 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.721122
8 Italian_South_ @ 7.021358
9 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.236943
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.432107
11 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.118495
12 Central_Greek_ @ 8.413404
13 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.565229
14 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.638451
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.091157
16 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.786330
17 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.868872
18 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 9.966640
19 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.067574
20 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.068285

But there is no Chechen in his top 20 also no Dag,Ingush or Abkazian

[Sikeliot]

genetically they are indeed closer to the mainland but they do show a caucasus pull. here's my grandfather's oracle, he's fully cretan.

1 Cretan_ @ 5.539093
2 Greek_ @ 5.719306
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.243247
4 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.344801
5 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.466509
6 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 6.648370
7 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.721122
8 Italian_South_ @ 7.021358
9 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.236943
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.432107
11 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.118495
12 Central_Greek_ @ 8.413404
13 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.565229
14 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.638451
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.091157
16 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.786330
17 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.868872
18 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 9.966640
19 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.067574
20 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.068285



Can you show me his result on Dodecad K12b, PuntDNA-L K13, and Eurogenes K13/K15?

[Rgvgjhvv]

genetically they are indeed closer to the mainland but they do show a caucasus pull. here's my grandfather's oracle, he's fully cretan.

1 Cretan_ @ 5.539093
2 Greek_ @ 5.719306
3 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.243247
4 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.344801
5 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.466509
6 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 6.648370
7 Greek_Athens_ @ 6.721122
8 Italian_South_ @ 7.021358
9 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.236943
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.432107
11 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.118495
12 Central_Greek_ @ 8.413404
13 Sicilian_West_ @ 8.565229
14 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.638451
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.091157
16 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.786330
17 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.868872
18 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 9.966640
19 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 10.067574
20 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.068285

Plenty of Greeks get all of those results you highlighted.

[nightrider+]

imo all of us look like a mix of pontics and mainland Greeks

Well most Pontic Greeks nowadays are the same, so there's your answer.

[Joso]

because they are similar