Thessaly Greek GEDmatch result with very low East Med

[Sikeliot]

This is one of the academic samples. it is very far north shifted even compared to the average.

Eurogenes K13:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.99
2 West_Med 20.86
3 East_Med 19.51
4 Baltic 16.74
5 West_Asian 13.04
6 Red_Sea 1.7
7 East_Asian 1.48
8 Amerindian 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.07
2 Romanian 8.21
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35
4 Tuscan 9.18
5 North_Italian 9.63
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.05
7 Serbian 11.51
8 West_Sicilian 12.83
9 Central_Greek 13.41
10 East_Sicilian 14.75
11 Portuguese 16.51
12 South_Italian 16.92
13 Spanish_Extremadura 16.98
14 Spanish_Galicia 17.44
15 Ashkenazi 17.8
16 Spanish_Cataluna 17.89
17 French 17.98
18 Moldavian 18.02
19 Spanish_Murcia 18.07
20 Spanish_Andalucia 18.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% South_Italian + 46.3% Austrian @ 3.45
2 56.7% South_Italian + 43.3% East_German @ 3.47
3 67.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.6% East_German @ 3.57
4 55.3% Bulgarian + 44.7% North_Italian @ 3.65
5 59.8% Central_Greek + 40.2% Austrian @ 3.65
6 53.4% Romanian + 46.6% Tuscan @ 3.68
7 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Southwest_English @ 3.69
8 60.3% Central_Greek + 39.7% West_German @ 3.72
9 61.9% Central_Greek + 38.1% South_Dutch @ 3.79
10 80% Greek_Thessaly + 20% Irish @ 3.79
11 64.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.1% Austrian @ 3.79
12 62.7% Central_Greek + 37.3% East_German @ 3.8
13 73.9% Greek_Thessaly + 26.1% South_Dutch @ 3.85
14 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% West_Scottish @ 3.85
15 70.3% Central_Greek + 29.7% Swedish @ 3.86
16 72.6% Greek_Thessaly + 27.4% West_German @ 3.88
17 70.5% Central_Greek + 29.5% Norwegian @ 3.91
18 79.7% Greek_Thessaly + 20.3% Orcadian @ 3.93
19 78.5% Greek_Thessaly + 21.5% Southeast_English @ 3.96
20 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% French @ 3.98


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 21.57
2 East_Med 18.37
3 West_Med 17.26
4 Atlantic 12.56
5 West_Asian 11.39
6 Baltic 9.32
7 Eastern_Euro 6.76
8 Red_Sea 1.64
9 Southeast_Asian 1.04
10 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 8.15
2 Romanian 10.42
3 Tuscan 10.84
4 Bulgarian 10.99
5 Serbian 11.58
6 North_Italian 12.27
7 Greek 12.29
8 Italian_Abruzzo 12.67
9 Central_Greek 13.66
10 Ashkenazi 14.34
11 East_Sicilian 14.49
12 West_Sicilian 14.75
13 Spanish_Galicia 16.61
14 South_Italian 16.8
15 Portuguese 17.03
16 Moldavian 17.12
17 Hungarian 17.32
18 French 17.34
19 Spanish_Extremadura 18.18
20 Spanish_Cataluna 18.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Greek_Thessaly + 28.1% West_German @ 4.08
2 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% West_Norwegian @ 4.25
3 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% Orcadian @ 4.49
4 79.7% Greek_Thessaly + 20.3% Norwegian @ 4.5
5 78.4% Greek_Thessaly + 21.6% Southwest_English @ 4.71
6 79.6% Greek_Thessaly + 20.4% North_Dutch @ 4.75
7 80.2% Greek_Thessaly + 19.8% Swedish @ 4.77
8 79.8% Greek_Thessaly + 20.2% Danish @ 4.86
9 79.3% Greek_Thessaly + 20.7% Southeast_English @ 4.88
10 80.8% Greek_Thessaly + 19.2% West_Scottish @ 4.93
11 80.8% Greek_Thessaly + 19.2% Irish @ 5.08
12 75.4% Greek_Thessaly + 24.6% South_Dutch @ 5.09
13 58.4% Central_Greek + 41.6% West_German @ 5.1
14 80.9% Greek_Thessaly + 19.1% North_Swedish @ 5.12
15 72.3% Greek_Thessaly + 27.7% French @ 5.13
16 79.2% Greek_Thessaly + 20.8% North_German @ 5.29
17 69.1% Central_Greek + 30.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.36
18 67.9% Central_Greek + 32.1% Norwegian @ 5.38
19 68% Central_Greek + 32% Swedish @ 5.53
20 68.4% Central_Greek + 31.6% North_Swedish @ 5.82


MDLP K23:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.88
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.70
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.49
4 South_Central_Asian 5.26
5 Near_East 4.80
6 North_African 2.84
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.58
8 Melano_Polynesian 1.23


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Northwest_ @ 3.880945
2 Kosovar_ @ 3.968817
3 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.647462
4 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 5.789657
5 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.830175
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 6.592833
7 Italian_North_ @ 7.863638
8 Bulgarian_ @ 8.011504
9 Central_Greek_ @ 8.626500
10 Gagauz_ @ 9.898585
11 Macedonian_ @ 10.038211
12 Romanian_ @ 10.281513
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 11.457248
14 Greek_ @ 11.728579
15 Montenegrian_ @ 11.730124
16 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.732523
17 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 12.121048
18 Ashkenazi_ @ 12.288445
19 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 12.518086
20 Greek_Athens_ @ 12.602946

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaloniki_ +50% Italian_North_ @ 2.517629


Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 29.3
2 North_European 28.98
3 Caucasus 27.74
4 Southwest_Asian 5.93
5 Gedrosia 5.64
6 Northwest_African 1.22
7 Southeast_Asian 0.74
8 Siberian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.03
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.15
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.32
4 Romanians (Behar) 8.42
5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.65
6 Greek (Dodecad) 12.67
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.79
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.9
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.02
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.82
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.65
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.72
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.59
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.79
15 Hungarians (Behar) 20.93
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 23.22
17 French (HGDP) 23.61
18 French (Dodecad) 23.66
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 23.9
20 German (Dodecad) 24.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.93
2 51.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.99
3 66% Greek (Dodecad) + 34% German (Dodecad) @ 2.06
4 75.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.11
5 83.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.12
6 73.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.18
7 75.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.19
8 83.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.25
9 81.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.29
10 73.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.36
11 74.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.37
12 50.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.42
13 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
14 62% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.47
15 73% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 27% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.48
16 83% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.53
17 52.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.54
18 84.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.55
19 75.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.56
20 78.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.5% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.57


PuntDNA-L K13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 36.41
2 NE_Europe 31.69
3 West_Asia 18.26
4 SW_Asia 9.61
5 SE_Asia 2.19
6 Siberia 0.94
7 Americas 0.38
8 Oceania 0.35
9 South_Africa 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian 3.32
2 Bulgarian 3.67
3 Kosovar 5.03
4 Montenegrin 5.63
5 Albanian 5.68
6 Romanian 5.97
7 Greek_Thessaly 6.48
8 Italian_Tuscan 6.49
9 Serbian 7.5
10 Italian_Bergamo 8.94
11 Bosnian 11.31
12 Greek_Central 11.5
13 Italian_Abruzzo 12.13
14 Croatian 12.96
15 Moldavian 13.56
16 Spaniard 13.57
17 French 14.11
18 Hungarian 15.63
19 German_South 15.81
20 Ashkenazy_Jew 16.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.3% Macedonian + 2.7% Igorot @ 1.9
2 97% Macedonian + 3% Murut @ 1.98
3 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Dusun @ 2
4 96.7% Macedonian + 3.3% Visayan @ 2
5 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Filipino @ 2.04
6 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Luzon @ 2.07
7 96.7% Macedonian + 3.3% Malayan @ 2.13
8 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Cambodian @ 2.34
9 52.9% Ashkenazy_Jew + 47.1% English @ 2.43
10 61.6% Greek_Central + 38.4% English @ 2.45
11 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Thai @ 2.48
12 64.6% French + 35.4% Turkish @ 2.49
13 97.3% Macedonian + 2.7% Dai @ 2.5
14 55.4% Ashkenazy_Jew + 44.6% Irish @ 2.53
15 84.9% Albanian + 15.1% Belarusian @ 2.55
16 97.4% Macedonian + 2.6% Vietnamese @ 2.57
17 86.6% Albanian + 13.4% Russian @ 2.57
18 60.9% Ashkenazy_Jew + 39.1% Norwegian @ 2.57
19 54.2% Ashkenazy_Jew + 45.8% Scottish @ 2.57
20 55% Ashkenazy_Jew + 45% Orcadian @ 2.58

[xripkan]

Do you know from which part of Thessaly he is? I guess the Western one. He has Vlach ancestry.

[Sikeliot]

Do you know from which part of Thessaly he is? I guess the Western one. He has Vlach ancestry.

I do not, I know it is an academic sample though.

[xripkan]

I do not, I know it is an academic sample though.

I was interested in seeing a Greek Vlach result and he definitely is. Do you find his Baltic relatively low for such a north shifted individual or not?

[wvwvw]

Such big distances to both Greek Thessaly and Bulgarian averages indicate mixed origin, not fully Greek.

Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.07
2 Romanian 8.21
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35

[Bosniensis]

Such big distances to both Greek Thessaly and Bulgarian averages indicate mixed origin, not fully Greek.

Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.07
2 Romanian 8.21
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35

Thracian ancestry, Romanized Thracian aka Byzantine Greek, nothing unusual.

There is plenty of those down there, Greeks mixed with us.

[Sikeliot]

I was interested in seeing a Greek Vlach result and he definitely is. Do you find his Baltic relatively low for such a north shifted individual or not?

Not sure how he could be Vlach when he is shifting NW, no NE. He almost looks partially Celtic.

[xripkan]

Not sure how he could be Vlach when he is shifting NW, no NE. He almost looks partially Celtic.

He looks mostly Paleo-Balkanic shifted somewhat NW. I think the Vlachians mixed with germanic populations during the early middle-ages. Some of these populations migrated to Spain and North Italy. This may explain the small genetic similarity.

[wvwvw]

He looks mostly Paleo-Balkanic with a little NW admixture. I think the Vlachians mixed with germanic populations during the early middle-ages. Some of these populations migrated to Spain and North Italy. This may explain the small genetic similarity.

This sample is not your average Thessalian sample, look at the distance it has from the average Thessalian.

[wvwvw]

Thracian ancestry, Romanized Thracian aka Byzantine Greek, nothing unusual.

There is plenty of those down there, Greeks mixed with us.

No you South Slavs mixed with Thracians.

Greeks have been interacting with Thracians thousand of years before you showed up.

[catgeorge]

Thats a Vlach

1 Bulgarian 8.07
2 Romanian 8.21
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35
4 Tuscan 9.18
5 North_Italian 9.63

1 53.7% South_Italian + 46.3% Austrian @ 3.45

[xripkan]

This sample is not your average Thessalian sample, look at the distance it has from the average Thessalian.

Yes, this is why I assumed Vlach ancestry. The average Thessalian is not Vlach, this group is a minority.

[catgeorge]

This is NW Greek forsure

1 Greek_Northwest_ @ 3.880945
2 Kosovar_ @ 3.968817
3 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.647462
4 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 5.789657
5 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.830175
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 6.592833
7 Italian_North_ @ 7.863638
8 Bulgarian_ @ 8.011504
9 Central_Greek_ @ 8.626500
10 Gagauz_ @ 9.898585

1 50% Greek_Thessaloniki_ +50% Italian_North_ @ 2.517629

Eastern shifted Albanian or Eastern shifted Vlach

1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.03
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.15
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.32
4 Romanians (Behar) 8.42

2 51.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.99

This is not a Greek but a Balkan immigrant past 20 years

1 Macedonian 3.32
2 Bulgarian 3.67
3 Kosovar 5.03
4 Montenegrin 5.63
5 Albanian 5.68
6 Romanian 5.97
7 Greek_Thessaly 6.48
8 Italian_Tuscan 6.49
9 Serbian 7.5
10 Italian_Bergamo 8.94

9 52.9% Ashkenazy_Jew + 47.1% English @ 2.43

[Rgvgjhvv]

Such big distances to both Greek Thessaly and Bulgarian averages indicate mixed origin, not fully Greek.

Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.07
2 Romanian 8.21
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35

Surprise, just like you

[wvwvw]

Surprise, just like you

Who’s talking to you cunt?

[Rgvgjhvv]

Who’s talking to you cunt?

Hahaha, you're learning

[wvwvw]

Yes, this is why I assumed Vlach ancestry. The average Thessalian is not Vlach, this group is a minority.

Vlachs are natives, except those in the northernmost part of Greece who have arrived from Bulgaria or Romania.

[paradox]

This is NW Greek forsure

1 Greek_Northwest_ @ 3.880945
2 Kosovar_ @ 3.968817
3 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 5.647462
4 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 5.789657
5 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 5.830175
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 6.592833
7 Italian_North_ @ 7.863638
8 Bulgarian_ @ 8.011504
9 Central_Greek_ @ 8.626500
10 Gagauz_ @ 9.898585

1 50% Greek_Thessaloniki_ +50% Italian_North_ @ 2.517629

Eastern shifted Albanian or Eastern shifted Vlach

1O_Italian (Dodecad)8.03
2Bulgarian (Dodecad)8.15
3Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)8.32
4Romanians (Behar)8.42

251.3%O_Italian (Dodecad)+48.7%Romanians (Behar)@1.99

This is not a Greek but a Balkan immigrant past 20 years

1Macedonian3.32
2Bulgarian3.67
3Kosovar5.03
4Montenegrin5.63
5Albanian5.68
6Romanian5.97
7Greek_Thessaly6.48
8Italian_Tuscan6.49
9Serbian7.5
10Italian_Bergamo8.94

952.9%Ashkenazy_Jew+47.1%English@2.43I doubt that they are a recent balkan immigrant given that they're used as an academic sample.

[Bosniensis]

Vlachs are natives, except those in the northernmost part of Greece who have arrived from Bulgaria or Romania.


But I wonder, why wouldn't be Galerius or Trajan regarded as native in Greece? Daco-Romans and Romans in general should be regarded native on mediterranean.

[paradox]

Not sure how he could be Vlach when he is shifting NW, no NE. He almost looks partially Celtic.These are my and my dad's mdlp16 mixed mode results. We have Vlach ancestry.

Mine
Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance

1 71.1%Greek (Greece)+28.9%Irish (Cork_Kerry)@1.99

2 83.8%Greek (Macedonia)+16.2%French (France)@2.08

3 73.9%Greek (Greece)+26.1%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.08

4 73.5%Greek (Greece)+26.5%Scottish (Argyll_bute)@2.1

5 81.9%Greek (Macedonia)+18.1%German (Germany)@2.11

6 71.3%Greek (Greece)+28.7%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.18

7 71.3%Greek (Greece)+28.7%Irish (Connacht)@2.21

8 75.1%Greek (Greece)+24.9%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.31

9 90%Greek (Macedonia)+10%Spanish (Pais_Vasco)@2.32

10 84.3%Greek (Macedonia)+15.7%English (England)@2.32

11 84.3%Greek (Macedonia)+15.7%Scottish (Grampian)@2.35

12 85%Greek (Macedonia)+15%Irish (Connacht)@2.36

13 86.7%Kosovar (Kosovo)+13.3%Chechen (Chechnya)@2.37

14 56.4%German (Germany)+43.6%Armenian (Lebanon)@2.37

15 74.6%Greek (Greece)+25.4%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.38

16 91.5%Greek (Macedonia)+8.5%Basque (France)@2.39

17 74.1%Greek (Athens)+25.9%Hungarian (WestUkraine)@2.39

18 87.2%Greek (Macedonia)+12.8%Spanish (Aragon)@2.41

19 84.8%Greek (Macedonia)+15.2%Scottish (Borders)@2.41

20 85.2%Greek (Macedonia)+14.8%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.41

My father's

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance

1 52.8%Greek (Greece)+47.2%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.03

2 58%Greek (Athens)+42%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.18

3 57.2%Greek (Athens)+42.8%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.23

4 52.1%Irish (Connacht)+47.9%Greek (Greece)@2.24

5 51.9%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)+48.1%Greek (Greece)@2.29

6 68.5%Greek (Greece)+31.5%Scottish (Argyll_bute)@2.34

7 69.1%Greek (Greece)+30.9%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.38

8 57.1%Greek (Macedonia)+42.9%Irish (Connacht)@2.4

9 58.9%Greek (Macedonia)+41.1%English (Cornwall)@2.42

10 50.1%German (Germany)+49.9%Greek (Macedonia)@2.43

11 54.8%Greek (Greece)+45.2%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.47

12 55.6%Greek (Macedonia)+44.4%French (WestFrance)@2.49

13 76.5%German (Germany)+23.5%Armenian (Armenia)@2.51

14 70.8%Greek (Greece)+29.2%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.52

15 70.1%Greek (Greece)+29.9%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.53

16 62.2%Greek (Greece)+37.8%Dutch (Netherlands)@2.54

17 52.4%Hungarian (WestUkraine)+47.6%Greek (Athens)@2.55

18 53.7%English (England)+46.3%Greek (Greece)@2.55

19 57.4%Greek (Macedonia)+42.6%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.57

20 55.7%Greek (Macedonia)+44.3%French (France)@2.58






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[xripkan]

Vlachs are natives, except those in the northernmost part of Greece who have arrived from Bulgaria or Romania.

They are mostly latinized Paleo-Balkanic populations. I know the theory about latinized Greeks but there is not a strong proof that Greek were latinized during the Roman period, maybe a very limited number. To the contrary we know about latinized Dacians and Thracians who moved to the south during the middle-ages. This academic sample indicates such an ancestry.

[xripkan]

These are my and my dad's mdlp16 mixed mode results. We have Vlach ancestry.

Mine
Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance

1 71.1%Greek (Greece)+28.9%Irish (Cork_Kerry)@1.99

2 83.8%Greek (Macedonia)+16.2%French (France)@2.08

3 73.9%Greek (Greece)+26.1%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.08

4 73.5%Greek (Greece)+26.5%Scottish (Argyll_bute)@2.1

5 81.9%Greek (Macedonia)+18.1%German (Germany)@2.11

6 71.3%Greek (Greece)+28.7%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.18

7 71.3%Greek (Greece)+28.7%Irish (Connacht)@2.21

8 75.1%Greek (Greece)+24.9%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.31

9 90%Greek (Macedonia)+10%Spanish (Pais_Vasco)@2.32

10 84.3%Greek (Macedonia)+15.7%English (England)@2.32

11 84.3%Greek (Macedonia)+15.7%Scottish (Grampian)@2.35

12 85%Greek (Macedonia)+15%Irish (Connacht)@2.36

13 86.7%Kosovar (Kosovo)+13.3%Chechen (Chechnya)@2.37

14 56.4%German (Germany)+43.6%Armenian (Lebanon)@2.37

15 74.6%Greek (Greece)+25.4%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.38

16 91.5%Greek (Macedonia)+8.5%Basque (France)@2.39

17 74.1%Greek (Athens)+25.9%Hungarian (WestUkraine)@2.39

18 87.2%Greek (Macedonia)+12.8%Spanish (Aragon)@2.41

19 84.8%Greek (Macedonia)+15.2%Scottish (Borders)@2.41

20 85.2%Greek (Macedonia)+14.8%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.41

My father's

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance

1 52.8%Greek (Greece)+47.2%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.03

2 58%Greek (Athens)+42%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.18

3 57.2%Greek (Athens)+42.8%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.23

4 52.1%Irish (Connacht)+47.9%Greek (Greece)@2.24

5 51.9%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)+48.1%Greek (Greece)@2.29

6 68.5%Greek (Greece)+31.5%Scottish (Argyll_bute)@2.34

7 69.1%Greek (Greece)+30.9%Orcadian (Orkney_Islands)@2.38

8 57.1%Greek (Macedonia)+42.9%Irish (Connacht)@2.4

9 58.9%Greek (Macedonia)+41.1%English (Cornwall)@2.42

10 50.1%German (Germany)+49.9%Greek (Macedonia)@2.43

11 54.8%Greek (Greece)+45.2%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.47

12 55.6%Greek (Macedonia)+44.4%French (WestFrance)@2.49

13 76.5%German (Germany)+23.5%Armenian (Armenia)@2.51

14 70.8%Greek (Greece)+29.2%Icelandic (Iceland)@2.52

15 70.1%Greek (Greece)+29.9%Norwegian (Norwegia)@2.53

16 62.2%Greek (Greece)+37.8%Dutch (Netherlands)@2.54

17 52.4%Hungarian (WestUkraine)+47.6%Greek (Athens)@2.55

18 53.7%English (England)+46.3%Greek (Greece)@2.55

19 57.4%Greek (Macedonia)+42.6%Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands)@2.57

20 55.7%Greek (Macedonia)+44.3%French (France)@2.58






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Which place is your father from?

[Aren]

These Academic samples seem to have a horrible quality on Gedmatch.

[paradox]

Which place is your father from?Drama, Northern Greece

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[Rgvgjhvv]

Drama, Northern Greece

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The results make it seem that Vlachs may have Celtic origins

[nightrider+]

Many baseless assumptions itt. Who said he's a vlach? The fact that he's so north shifted and yet still equidistant to Bulgaria/Romania and Tuscany is telling.

[Freeroostah]

He has a lot of North European but his Baltic is low
Could be of Celtic/Germanic origins? lol

[Coolguy1]

People here are putting too much faith in these calculators. Its unlikely that THIS individual has Celtic origins and the rest of Thessaly doesnt. He shifts both north and west, showing a drift toward Albania. The northern shift can easily be attributed to Slavs and the western shift attributed to more Anatolian Farmer ancestry that I believe was more present in northern Greece than in southern Greece from ancient time. Remember, the migration that was responsible for the Minoans shifted Greece EAST from the original neolithic farmers.

[nightrider+]

People here are putting too much faith in these calculators. Its unlikely that THIS individual has Celtic origins and the rest of Thessaly doesnt. He shifts both north and west, showing a drift toward Albania. The northern shift can easily be attributed to Slavs and the western shift attributed to more Anatolian Farmer ancestry that I believe was more present in northern Greece than in southern Greece from ancient time. Remember, the migration that was responsible for the Minoans shifted Greece EAST from the original neolithic farmers.Not exactly east, more like northeast towards Caucasus. Greek farmers were already eastern shifted compared to EEF and very close to Anatolian farmers. Peloponnese neolithic even more so.