Classify Ukrainian TV presenter

[meiliren]

I classified her as Pontic Mediterranean with strong Baltic input that give her unmistakable Slavic vibe.

And what do you think? How would you classify her?

https://pp.userapi.com/ayivEEaCpYqQraixYdOBuSbb_BrGniCGZQRTfw/y1-3aNtcytI.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/0AWWYGCMpfyv5q09TzmZl203HTeTZmhrwu5jgw/oduA6n69YUE.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/dOgJtOHgfuO9GNkJThZv6GkNE9Jl838-hWeS3g/YruKXpx0oO0.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c308630/v308630591/2d20/RYT4yH6qGH4.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/RaBMiqnCcp7VyGGAmsrnBDGBuivNH6-eYwd5vg/tY9U-dnRDso.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/s0wLkvI7JoMJWPfrXOM2rKIERlGz4DPLdaLG5g/t5HV0I4Z97Y.jpg

[Davy Jones's Locker]

I classified her as Pontic Mediterranean

That is essentially my opinion.

[The Blade]

North Pontid facial sctructure:
https://pp.userapi.com/dOgJtOHgfuO9GNkJThZv6GkNE9Jl838-hWeS3g/YruKXpx0oO0.jpg
Bizygomatic breadth greater, gonial angles more pronounced and lower part of face broader than Pontid proper - all of this due to Corded input.

[meiliren]

North Pontid facial sctructure:
https://pp.userapi.com/dOgJtOHgfuO9GNkJThZv6GkNE9Jl838-hWeS3g/YruKXpx0oO0.jpg
Bizygomatic breadth greater, gonial angles more pronounced and lower part of face broader than Pontid proper - all of this due to Corded input.

Isn't "North Pontid" Baltic and Med mix?

[meiliren]

She has pronounced cheekbones, heavy Baltic bone structure and Baltic shape of eyes.

[The Blade]

Isn't "North Pontid" Baltic and Med mix?
Nothing Baltic about it. It's a Pontic Med-Corded mix.
Baltids don't have such well-pronounced gonial angles, nor do they have squarish cheekbones, despite their heavy facial structure:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5803&stc=1&d=1284918943
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T2iJgU9kOnc/hqdefault.jpg

[meiliren]

Nothing Baltic about it. It's a Pontic Med-Corded mix.
Baltids don't have such well-pronounced gonial angles, nor do they have squarish cheekbones, despite their heavy facial structure:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5803&stc=1&d=1284918943
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T2iJgU9kOnc/hqdefault.jpg

They look atypical.

Isn't Baltic variable type?


These women was classified on this forum as Baltic.
https://jetsetter.ua/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DIF_2018-03-13-15.36.47_novyj-razmer.jpg
https://maincream.com/uploads/2018/News/AC1A8943.jpg

[cyberlorian]

North Pontid.

[The Blade]

They look atypical.

Isn't Baltic variable type?


These women was classified on this forum as Baltic.
https://jetsetter.ua/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DIF_2018-03-13-15.36.47_novyj-razmer.jpg
https://maincream.com/uploads/2018/News/AC1A8943.jpg
First one is Dalofaelid.
Second is North Pontid.
The proper Baltid type of Central Europe looks like those I posted.
The East Baltic category deals with Uralid/Nordic/CM mixes (possible additional baltization).
West Baltid is mainly a CM (Phalian or East Cromagnid depending on the case) type partly reduced by Central Euro brachycephals (Baltoid, Alpinoid).

By the way, first woman has a familiar look. What's her name?

[meiliren]

First one is Dalofaelid.
Second is North Pontid.
The proper Baltid type of Central Europe looks like those I posted.
The East Baltic category deals with Uralid/Nordic/CM mixes (possible additional baltization).
West Baltid is mainly a CM (Phalian or East Cromagnid depending on the case) type partly reduced by Central Euro brachycephals (Baltoid, Alpinoid).

By the way, first woman has a familiar look. What's her name?

Both are Ukrainians.
First one was classified as Baltic + Pontic Med on the Russian forums.

What is "Dalofaelid'?

Is this term internet invention?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270639-Classify-Julia-Sanina
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270664-How-many-Mongoloid-is-this-Ukrainian-woman

[The Blade]

Both are Ukrainians.
First one was classified as Baltic + Pontic Med on the Russian forums.

What is "Dalofaelid'?

Is this term internet invention?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270639-Classify-Julia-Sanina
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270664-How-many-Mongoloid-is-this-Ukrainian-woman
Dalofaelid/Faelid/Dalische rasse/Dalsrasse are terms relating to a certain Cro-Magnon type. It was first described by Fritz Paudler in Dalarna, Sweden (from there the "Dal" part in the name). The Faelid/Phalian part comes from Westphalia, Germany, another one of the regions it is common.
Dalsrasse examples from Swedish anthropologists:
http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1110/87/8da8e7c81230.jpg
More information:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-dalofalid.htm
The Dalofaelid type is most common in Northwestern Europe (The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany) but also exists in other regions of the continent (France, North Slavic countries, Balkans, Iberian peninsula, Britain/Ireland, etc.) due to Upper Paleolithic and later Germanic migrations, as well as because of countries borders changing throughout history.

[TheMaestro]

Her eyes are not baltid, imo non-Euro influence, the rest looks European.

[meiliren]

The East Baltic category deals with Uralid/Nordic/CM mixes (possible additional baltization).
West Baltid is mainly a CM (Phalian or East Cromagnid depending on the case) type partly reduced by Central Euro brachycephals (Baltoid, Alpinoid).



Coon.



The term East Baltic is properly applicable to a racial type of composite nature, found chiefly in northeastern Germany, Poland, the Baltic States, and Finland, although it also occurs sporadically in Sweden and elsewhere. It is a partially reduced Borreby derivative, with Ladogan and Nordic admixture.


I don't see any "Uralid" or "CM".


I think Baltic(East Baltic) phenotype can be very different.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe071.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe072.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe073.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe074.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe075.jpg



A Finn from Tampere, Tavastehus. This man seems to show more evidence of Nordic influence than the others. As these pictures show, the East Baltic is not a stable or a basic racial type, but a variable blend.

[meiliren]

West Baltid is mainly a CM (Phalian or East Cromagnid depending on the case) type partly reduced by Central Euro brachycephals (Baltoid, Alpinoid).



Are West Baltid, CM and East Cromagnid internet invention?


Or do you have any source?

[Bogdan]

Pred. Pontid.

[meiliren]

Pred. Pontid.

What is "Pred"?



I see many people use that term.

[Bogdan]

What is "Pred"?



I see many people use that term.

“Predominantly”

[meiliren]

“Predominantly”

Thanks.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Pontic type.

[Kivan]

North-Pontid.

[McCloskey]

Pontic Mediterranean.

[meiliren]

More information:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-dalofalid.htm
The Dalofaelid type is most common in Northwestern Europe (The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany) but also exists in other regions of the continent (France, North Slavic countries, Balkans, Iberian peninsula, Britain/Ireland, etc.) due to Upper Paleolithic and later Germanic migrations, as well as because of countries borders changing throughout history.



This woman looks typical White Australian to me.

I don't think she can pass in Slavic countries,Balkans or Iberia.



https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/CTS.jpg

And this Ukrainian woman looks unmistakable Slavic.

I don't think they are similar.

http://poradnykzhinky.com/sites/poradnyk/files/images/2018/11/danil-kaistro-2018_05.jpg
https://vdp.mycdn.me/getImage?id=422298258095&idx=1&thumbType=32

[meiliren]

Pontic type.

Thanks.



Do you think she can pass in Iberia?

[meiliren]

North-Pontid.

Thanks.



Do you think she can pass in Slovenia?

[Kivan]

Thanks.

Do you think she can pass in Slovenia?

I don't live in Slovenia, but yes, i think she does.

[Zroota]

I've seen West Asian women with this look, if not as robust featured. She's some sort of Atlanto-Med & CM.

She's too dark for "north" pontid and baltid, and robust for pontid IMO.

[meiliren]

I've seen West Asian women with this look, if not as robust featured. She's some sort of Atlanto-Med & CM.

She's too dark for "north" pontid and baltid, and robust for pontid IMO.

Thanks


But I don't think she is Atlanto-Mediterranean.


Atlanto-Mediterranean is Iberian phenotype.


She does not look Western at all she looks unmistakable Eastern.

She looks Pontic Mediterranean as fuck.



I think she can pass better in Greece or in Turkey than in Iberia. IMO.

[The Blade]

Are West Baltid, CM and East Cromagnid internet invention?


Or do you have any source?
Cro-Magnon (Upper Paleolithic) is a category used by various anthropologists, including Coon, Deniker and Czekanowski:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate04.htm
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate05.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Deniker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Czekanowski
Faelids are also UP people, as you can see from plate posted (they are defined as CM subtype).
West Baltid I already explained. Coon also saw such influence in the so-called Aisto-Nordid/Baltic Tronder type common in Baltic region (said to be particularly common in Estonia) - Corded, CM and Baltid elements (Corded + West Baltid, in other words). Latvian from Kurland he used as plate:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe323a.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe323b.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe323c.jpg
However, pure Tronders (Corded-CM) are also not rare among people of the Baltic region.
East Cromagnid is a legit type, just rarer nowadays.
Examples I posted on page 6 in this thread pointing out this and other inaccuracies of Cosmoo and his cherrypicked info:
http://www.nauchensviat.eu/images/anthropology/%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D 0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%B4%D1% 80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%20%D0%BD%D0 %B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8/Scythians_2.JPG
http://www.nauchensviat.eu/images/anthropology/%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D 0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%B4%D1% 80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%20%D0%BD%D0 %B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8/Schytians.JPG
http://www.nauchensviat.eu/images/anthropology/%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D 0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%B4%D1% 80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%20%D0%BD%D0 %B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8/Scythians_8.JPG
http://www.nauchensviat.eu/images/anthropology/obshta%20antropologia%202%20/Anthro_10.JPG
My actual post:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?202075-Racial-classification-within-the-White-Family-a-list-of-non-existant-phenotypes/page6
You are obviously not very familiar with terminology - no offense. Borreby is a CM subtype by Coon and Ladogan is used as a synonym to Uralid.
Very different is a stretch - there are the typical East Baltids like:
This Hungarian
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/tipumagyar_small.jpg
and this Swedish
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/eastbaltlund001.jpg
and also the more Nordid admixed Neo-Danubians:
http://i.imgur.com/WGrB2Q3.jpg
Paul von Hindenburg you posted is nothing but a Phalian Cro-Magnon (nothing Nordid or Uralid about him) and was in fact used as Phalian example by Hans Günther.

[The Blade]

This woman looks typical White Australian to me.

I don't think she can pass in Slavic countries,Balkans or Iberia.



https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/CTS.jpg

And this Ukrainian woman looks unmistakable Slavic.

I don't think they are similar.

http://poradnykzhinky.com/sites/poradnyk/files/images/2018/11/danil-kaistro-2018_05.jpg
https://vdp.mycdn.me/getImage?id=422298258095&idx=1&thumbType=32
You can think whatever you want, this doesn't make what I said any less legit.
Judging by your classification based on ethnicity and subjective perceptions, I would ask are you another frdfgcg sock account?
Sorry if you are not but gotta ask. Also, Courtney Thorne-Smith you are talking about passes in all places I mentioned (including Balkans and Iberia) despite her type being typically Northwestern. The other woman you are talking about fits fine in NW Europe, too.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Thanks.



Do you think she can pass in Iberia?

She passes, unlike most Ucranians.