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Mortimer
12-15-2018, 04:50 AM
Gypsies are seen as highly exotic race and people are surprised about their results and they are seen as pure indian phenotypes. And one jew on facebook who also used to post here said to me that I am 50% southasian and that my results are wrong. But I think with the results pure brown gypsies get sometimes it does make sense that they look like they do. It is possible.

Only 9% Eastern European and 4% Baltic (which would have really a significant lightening effect on the phenotype) close to 50% southasian and rest is oriental/northafrican/jewish/greek (those ethnicities are lighter then southasians and gypsies but still not significantly light) and considering that she is close to 50% southasian it is possible that they look like they do (with dark brown skin colour etc.). Do you agree or you think the results are wrong and they should be 80% southasian like african-americans are black?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWUphFYpQaQ

My results (20% southasian and seems like half of that bosnian gypsy since i also have significant recent european ancestry on my paternal side)

https://i.postimg.cc/Ss2frzWC/Myheritage.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/mg8Vg9Gs/Family.jpg

Tauromachos
12-15-2018, 04:58 AM
The traditional stereotype of Gypsies is as being people with very dark skin color who look somehow foreing and mysterious

Though going by phenotypes of actual Gypsy people there is quite alot of variation depending on the group and some
Gypsy groups look like they mixed with Europeans

Yet people would still be surprised because there is also a stereotype that Gypsies were living in very closed clan based communities and never mixed
or intermarried with others

But yet it seems they did by both phenotype and genotype

StevenTylerAerosmith
12-16-2018, 03:26 AM
everything makes sense with ur results except for the central american

FilhoV
12-16-2018, 03:21 PM
Andalusian Gypsy from Seville


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29
2 West_Med 23.1
3 East_Med 18.66
4 South_Asian 11.44
5 Baltic 7.56
6 West_Asian 7.14
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 East_Asian 0.79
9 Sub-Saharan 0.76
10 Oceanian 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 11.38
2 Tuscan 12.39
3 Spanish_Extremadura 14.79
4 Spanish_Andalucia 15.14
5 Portuguese 15.16
6 Spanish_Murcia 15.62
7 Spanish_Galicia 15.67
8 Spanish_Valencia 15.68
9 West_Sicilian 15.72
10 Spanish_Cataluna 16.34
11 Italian_Abruzzo 16.37
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.82
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 16.89
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.9
15 Spanish_Cantabria 18.49
16 Spanish_Aragon 19.04
17 Central_Greek 19.35
18 French 19.35
19 East_Sicilian 19.45
20 Romanian 19.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.9% North_Italian + 14.1% Chenchu @ 4.35
2 86.7% North_Italian + 13.3% Sakilli @ 4.35
3 86.7% North_Italian + 13.3% Chamar @ 4.37
4 86.6% North_Italian + 13.4% Piramalai @ 4.41
5 85.8% North_Italian + 14.2% Kol @ 4.52
6 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Dusadh @ 4.52
7 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Kurumba @ 4.6
8 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Velamas @ 4.63
9 85.6% North_Italian + 14.4% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.64
10 86.3% North_Italian + 13.7% North_Kannadi @ 4.68
11 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% Dharkar @ 4.89
12 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Kanjar @ 4.95
13 84.6% North_Italian + 15.4% Bangladeshi @ 5.28
14 87.2% North_Italian + 12.8% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 5.41
15 84.8% North_Italian + 15.2% Kshatriya @ 5.5
16 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Brahmin_UP @ 5.65
17 85.1% North_Italian + 14.9% Gujarati @ 5.74
18 82.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 17.3% Velamas @ 6.93
19 82% Spanish_Valencia + 18% Velamas @ 6.95
20 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% Sindhi @ 7.03

Rgvgjhvv
06-07-2020, 07:35 PM
How much South Asian % do "full gypsies" have on K13? What's the range like?

Chris596
06-07-2020, 07:47 PM
It's possible that you actually have more. I have a Romani/Gypsy friend and I want him to take a test like this one. Sadly, I can't take Myheritage too seriously and I have to agree with the others who said that the ancestry report is not too accurate (in some cases). In my case, Myheritage is pretty retarded and I can only believe in GEDmatch and AdmixtureStudio results which tell me a whole different story.

What do you think? I know you said that I'm 100% European but I kindly disagree with you, it has turned out that Myheritage doesn't really work for me. (I know that my ancestry is 80-90% from the Balkans but the rest is always weird and GEDmatch really tells me other things as well)

Adamm
06-07-2020, 07:51 PM
You are 80% European, some people claimed it was less here on the forum.