Can this Israeli guy pass in Spain?

[CrazyDaisy]

I don’t think he can. I think he looks too MENA.

http://www.tribunejuive.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/zilber-1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fz-ijBJNYhg/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f3CtdKqb0CI/hqdefault.jpg
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_Control/235464
https://img.discogs.com/2rLyKhJgJnS1FwTuKPDkKdufevM=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():qualit y(90)/discogs-images/R-9276087-1487572161-8638.jpeg.jpg
https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0003/570/MI0003570649.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

[CrazyDaisy]

http://vudejerusalem.20minutes-blogs.fr/media/00/01/1890699362.jpg

[CrazyDaisy]

https://img.discogs.com/qfAX_Z5iICR5W1h4k845fmmaUyM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():qualit y(40)/discogs-images/R-12351899-1533500423-2111.jpeg.jpg
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[Cristiano viejo]

No, although you wish it, mestiza :thumb001:

[CrazyDaisy]

No, although you wish it, mestiza :thumb001:

I already said he probably can’t pass in Spain.

[Cristiano viejo]

I already said he probably can’t pass in Spain.

Then what for do you ask?

[CrazyDaisy]

Then what for do you ask?

Someone told me can pass on Spain, but I thought he was full of shit.

[Cleitus]

Mizrahi Jew?

[CrazyDaisy]

Mizrahi Jew?

He looks like one, but his last name is Zilber.

[Cleitus]

He looks like one, but his last name is Zilber.

Probably mixed then, he could pass as a atypical south Italian I think.

[CrazyDaisy]

https://www.makorrishon.co.il/nrg/images/archive/300x225/352/413.jpg

[CrazyDaisy]

A younger photo.
http://buyart.co.il/pictures/26/732541.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

Absolutely not. He doesn't look European native, then he could not pass as Spanish.

[Zroota]

As a Moroccan immigrant.

[Stratagos]

no

[Kamal900]

Fuck no. He looks very Jewish.

[Papastratosels26]

Nope

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[CrazyDaisy]

As a Moroccan immigrant.
:lol:

Fuck no. He looks very Jewish.

Ashkenazi?

[Kamal900]

:lol:


Ashkenazi?

More closer to the Mizrahim in my opinion.

[CrazyDaisy]

More closer to the Mizrahim in my opinion.

That’s what I thought. He looks very middle eastern to me.

[Joso]

Very armenoid, of course he would not. Maybe as very atypical

[Cristiano viejo]

Very armenoid, of course he would not. Maybe as very atypical

Some example of any atypical Spanish similar to him? :rolleyes:

[Joso]

Some example of any atypical Spanish similar to him? :rolleyes:

I said "maybe" because i don't know

[Valedictorian]

Some example of any atypical Spanish similar to him? :rolleyes:

There are quite a few. One of them;
Alvaro Zazo
http://i42.tinypic.com/34orad5.jpg
http://estaticos01.marca.com/imagenes/2010/02/22/futbol/equipos/cordoba/1266874901_0.jpg

Armenoid as fuck. Borderline Arabid. Those phenotypes are atypical, of course. But they do exist.

[Cristiano viejo]

There are quite a few. One of them;
Alvaro Zazo


Not similar at all.
Also you posted the darkest photo you could find
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAOMwoiWsAAuClY.jpg

[KuriousKatKommittee]

I don’t think he can.
Very atypical, indeed, maybe only as a Spanish Gitano. He could do a "How do you do, fellow Sicilians" with this one, lmao:

https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_Control/235464

[Latinus]

Probably mixed then, he could pass as a atypical south Italian I think.

If he can pass as atypical South Italian, why not as an atypical Spaniard?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

If he can pass as atypical South Italian, why not as an atypical Spaniard?CV rant in 3 2 1....

[Aida]

Maybe there would be guys like him before 1492 in Spain.

[MysteriousWays]

He doesn't pass in Spain except in a troll thread.

[LawrenceMartinez]

He looks a bit like Gaddafi, I think he can only pass in North Africa and Middle East

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe there would be guys like him before 1492 in Spain.

hehehehehe

[Cleitus]

If he can pass as atypical South Italian, why not as an atypical Spaniard?

I don't know any Spaniards nor can I recall to have met any, so I can't say what sort of phenotypical variation exists among them. And Cristiano would attack me verbally, so i keep myself neutral in this case :p

[Latinus]

I don't know any Spaniards nor can I recall to have met any, so I can't say what sort of phenotypical variation exists among them. And Cristiano would attack me verbally, so i keep myself neutral in this case :p

Ok, lol.

[Cristiano viejo]

I don't know any Spaniards nor can I recall to have met any, so I can't say what sort of phenotypical variation exists among them. And Cristiano would attack me verbally, so i keep myself neutral in this case :p

Saying stupidities as that this guy could pass in Spain is free, so no problem.

[alnortedelsur]

He could only pass as gypsy or immigrant.

[CrazyDaisy]

He could only pass as gypsy or immigrant.

Is it just because he’s heavily tanned?

[aherne]

Resembles Ghadaffi. Probably descendant of North African Jews... His look is very atypical to levant

[CrazyDaisy]

Resembles Ghadaffi. Probably descendant of North African Jews... His look is very atypical to levant

He looks brown, but I don’t see the resemblance to Gadaffi.

[Aspirin]

Looks Gypsy.

[Valedictorian]

He looks brown, but I don’t see the resemblance to Gadaffi.

Neither do I. Actually he looks like a jewish version of Giancarlo Esposito.

[CrazyDaisy]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H31Oj5xrE90/hqdefault.jpg

[lonewolfcypriot]

He looks very Jewish, He will most likely not pass in Spain.

[CrazyDaisy]

https://www.makorrishon.co.il/nrg/images/archive/300x225/366/314.jpg

[The Lawspeaker]

Are you trolling ? Taking the piss ? He doesn't look remotely European.

[CrazyDaisy]

Are you trolling ? Taking the piss ? He doesn't look remotely European.

Peterski said he could pass in Spain.

[The Lawspeaker]

Peterski said he could pass in Spain.

Peterski has clearly never travelled to the flipside of the Czech border - let alone Southern Europe.

[Peterski]

Peterski said he could pass in Spain.

There is a million of Gitanos in Spain (they are not genetically Spanish):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitanos

But there are also ethnically Spanish people who can pass in Tunisia etc.:

https://i.imgur.com/NVeWENT.png

[Rouxinol]

So ugly. He would pass easier in Italy though.

[Cristiano viejo]

There is a million of Gitanos in Spain (they are not genetically Spanish):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitanos

But there are also ethnically Spanish people who can pass in Tunisia etc.:

https://i.imgur.com/NVeWENT.png

Passing in Tunisia does not make to that Israeli to pass in Spain, stupid Polacko.

This Polacko also passes in Tunisia
https://as01.epimg.net/baloncesto/imagenes/2014/07/02/nba/1404287753_774457_1404287835_noticia_grande.jpg

Does that mean that Israeli passes in Polackolandia, dumbfuck??

[CommonSense]

He could pass for a Gypsy

[Cristiano viejo]

He could pass for a Gypsy

Not even as a Gypsy. He looks what he is, as always: a Middle Eastern man.

[CrazyDaisy]

Not even as a Gypsy. He looks what he is, as always: a Middle Eastern man.
:lol:

[Dna8]

I don't think so.. maybe as an extremely atypical Southern Italian

[Smeagol]

No, he wouldn't even pass for a European Jew.

[alnortedelsur]

I wonder what the weird looking white Canadian laughs about? :rolleyes:

[Dna8]

alnortedelsur, your gif is the best sig in Apricity

[alnortedelsur]

alnortedelsur, your gif is the best sig in Apricity

hehehe... thanks :)

[CrazyDaisy]

I wonder what the weird looking white Canadian laughs about? :rolleyes:

Just the way he worded it.

[ModernMaskil]

No, he wouldn't even pass for a European Jew.

Yes, he would. Atypical, but I've seen people more Middle Eastern looking than him.

[Sp_loa]

More closer to the Mizrahim in my opinion.

He is half yemenite Jewish, Half Ashkenazi (Latvian Jewish).

[Sp_loa]

Yes, he would. Atypical, but I've seen people more Middle Eastern looking than him.

He can't pass as Ashkenazi Jew. Never seen such a dark Ashkenazi. He is half yemenite Jewish and it's obvious- the curly hair, the darker skin, the facial features.

[ModernMaskil]

He can't pass as Ashkenazi Jew. Never seen such a dark Ashkenazi. He is half yemenite Jewish and it's obvious- the curly hair, the darker skin, the facial features.

The curly hair and facial features were literally Ashkenazi stereotypes in Europe. I know full Ashkenazis with the same features. As for the skin tone, I've seen Zilber irl (albeit he's old now), he really is not particularly dark. Darker than the average Ashkenazi sure, but I have half Ashkenazi half Yemenite cousins and they are about the same shade - between Type 3 to Type 4 maybe.

[CrazyDaisy]

The curly hair and facial features were literally Ashkenazi stereotypes in Europe. I know full Ashkenazis with the same features. As for the skin tone, I've seen Zilber irl (albeit he's old now), he really is not particularly dark. Darker than the average Ashkenazi sure, but I have half Ashkenazi half Yemenite cousins and they are about the same shade - between Type 3 to Type 4 maybe.

Why did you see him irl?

[ModernMaskil]

Why did you see him irl?

Completely randomly, and very recently. I was in Ariel a few weeks ago (first time I'd ever been to a West Bank settlement, visiting a friend of my dad's) and I literally just saw him walking in a shopping mall. 90% sure it was him, the guy fit the bill. I'm not very immersed in Israeli popular culture but I still recognized him immediately, unlike seemingly everyone else. Biggest "celebrity" I've ever met, besides Gareth Bale.

[CrazyDaisy]

Completely randomly, and very recently. I was in Ariel a few weeks ago (first time I'd ever been to a West Bank settlement, visiting a friend of my dad's) and I literally just saw him walking in a shopping mall. 90% sure it was him, the guy fit the bill. I'm not very immersed in Israeli popular culture but I still recognized him immediately, unlike seemingly everyone else. Biggest "celebrity" I've ever met, besides Gareth Bale.
Maybe I confused people by posting a few heavily tanned photos. It seems like people forget brown people can tan as well. If someone meets my dad when he has a tan they’re often confused when they see his untanned skin later on.

[ModernMaskil]

Maybe I confused people by posting a few heavily tanned photos. It seems like people forget brown people can tan as well. If someone meets my dad when he has a tan they’re often confused when they see his untanned skin later on.

Nah, other than the one where he's playing the piano they're mostly representative.

[Peterski]

https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_Control/235464

^^^
In this picture he looks like Robert De Niro:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/59/da/cf59da31c74cac6cedf2839f5fcda1ff.png

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5f/c6/d4/5fc6d406abe77a099f15fdfdee18111a--night-on-the-towns-classic-hollywood.jpg

[Westbrook]

Oh wow

[Cristiano viejo]

I wonder what the weird looking white Canadian laughs about? :rolleyes:

Stop calling that super-mestiza looking Ecuadorian girl "white". She is not and she does not look like one not even remotely.

[CrazyDaisy]

Stop calling that super-mestiza looking Ecuadorian girl "white". She is not and she does not look like one not even remotely.

I bet I look whiter than the Israeli guy I posted.

[alnortedelsur]

Stop calling that super-mestiza looking Ecuadorian girl "white". She is not and she does not look like one not even remotely.

I call her "weird looking white Canadian" just for fun.

[alnortedelsur]

I bet I look whiter than the Israeli guy I posted.

Who doesn't look remotely Spanish.

[CrazyDaisy]

Who doesn't look remotely Spanish.

I agree with you. But some idiot says he can pass in Spain. I posted this thread to prove how idiotic he is.

[Zuh]

I call her "weird looking white Canadian" just for fun.

Bulling people is wrong when ironically millions of your balanced triracial pardos countrymen look less white than her.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQd-BcLLn2GXlpZa-kN55EtDhz0m2VvlJN5YPjdy1HNrRADtYui

[Zuh]

DP

[Peterski]

Peterski said he could pass in Spain.

I don't remember saying that. When and where did I say that? Or are you just trolling me?

I don't even know who this guy is.

[Tellerin]

He can pass in Yemen

[nazarian2]

I think he can totally pass in spain without the beard and an appropriate haircut.

[Cristiano viejo]

I think he can totally pass in spain without the beard and an appropriate haircut.

hahahaha

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

He looks brazilian

[CrazyDaisy]

An interesting quote from him.

In France I realized for the first time that there is depth and meaning to being a Jew. This was in 5727. Many more years would pass until I did t’shuva but if I think back over the years about when it all began, it was in France that I took the first step.

“I felt that the gentiles hate us. On one of their holidays, I was a guest of gentiles in a pastoral village on one of the beautiful beaches of France. In the middle of the family meal, the father asked me, ‘Where do you come from?’ I proudly told him that I am Jewish and come from Eretz Yisroel. ‘You’re from Israel?’ he shrieked. ‘Get out of here! I don’t want you here!’

[Dna8]

He looks like an older, Armenoid version of Andy Samberg.

[CrazyDaisy]

Would you say he looks more like an average Ashkenazi Jew or an average Middle Easterner?

[Dna8]

Would you say he looks more like an average Ashkenazi Jew or an average Middle Easterner?

He looks more Middle Eastern than Ashkenazi, to my eye..

[CrazyDaisy]

He looks more Middle Eastern than Ashkenazi, to my eye..

Same with me. His last name puzzles me.

[Dna8]

Same with me. His last name puzzles me.

Zilber?

Ashkenazi surname I assumed.. maybe incorrectly..

[CrazyDaisy]

Zilber?

Ashkenazi surname I assumed.. maybe incorrectly..
Yeah. It’s of German/Yiddish origin.

[Sandy Vento]

How does one determine if someone can "pass" in a nation?
What is the bar?
Are we really so infantile and closed minded that we think that there isn't a massive and broad spectrum of Caucasian phenotypes in both the middle east and Europe?
Why is this ignorance so prevalent?
I will use Tom Ellis as an example, can this native Englishman, with some Welsh and Cornish, "pass" in England?
Could he also "pass" in or Iran or Syria?
http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AES-131800-Tom-Ellis.jpg

[Dna8]

Are Ashkenazi Jews not half MENA? They plot with South Italians and Greeks, but it is rather due to having the same mix of ancestries, not due to being descended from Sicilian converts to Judaism.

Anyway, here are two Sicilians that look vastly different despite being of the same ethnicity (and you will observe similar variation in phenotypes among Ashkenazi Jews):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?274443-Guess-ethnic-origins-of-two-guys

https://i.imgur.com/mylbL8W.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/tI4IACx.jpg

Agreed.. Ashkenazim and MENA have points of similarity..

Even so, by my reckoning, OP subject looks more like a ME/NA average, than how I imagine the Ashkenazi average..

[CrazyDaisy]

His mom. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracha_Zefira) says she’s of Yemeni origin. She doesn’t look super MENA-ish based on some photos I found.
http://www.sephardicmusic.org/artists/Zefira,Bracha/Pictures/Zefira,Bracha2.jpg

But she does here.
http://v.mzemer.com/uploads/thumbs/348f965d6-1.jpg

[Dna8]

His mom. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracha_Zefira) says she’s of Yemeni origin. She doesn’t look super MENA-ish based on some photos I found.
http://www.sephardicmusic.org/artists/Zefira,Bracha/Pictures/Zefira,Bracha2.jpg

But she does here.
http://v.mzemer.com/uploads/thumbs/348f965d6-1.jpg

Mom looks like a Med. in my opinion..

[Dna8]

How does one determine if someone can "pass" in a nation?
What is the bar?
Are we really so infantile and closed minded that we think that there isn't a massive and broad spectrum of Caucasian phenotypes in both the middle east and Europe?
Why is this ignorance so prevalent?
I will use Tom Ellis as an example, can this native Englishman, with some Welsh and Cornish, "pass" in England?
Could he also "pass" in or Iran or Syria?
http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AES-131800-Tom-Ellis.jpg

I understand your post, I'd like to think..

Many of us would just be "human appearance enthusiasts".. at the heart of it..

In that sense the spectrums you referenced increase the intellectual satisfaction of enthusiasts' discussions..

[guyinsf]

If I saw him in Spain I would think he's a foreigner.

[CrazyDaisy]

Mom looks like a Med. in my opinion..

How does she look less MENA than him? I don’t know what his dad looks like, but he has a very Ashkenazi name.

[Joso]

yes

[Phenix]

Very Jewy, not passable anywhere in Europe, even Maghrebi Jews are more Europid than him, how does he have an Ashkenazi name?

[CrazyDaisy]

Very Jewy, not passable anywhere in Europe, even Maghrebi Jews are more Europid than him, how does he have an Ashkenazi name?

His mom is Yemeni. I was asking the exact same question.

[Phenix]

His mom is Yemeni. I was asking the exact same question.

This explains a lot, because he can not pass neither as Maghrebi Jew since they are majority Sephardim, nor a Maghrebi Arab-Berber, thank you.