Do rich British children or rich Colombian children pass better in Argentina/Uruguay/South Brazil?

[Tooting Carmen]

This is a serious, non-trollish thread. I would hypothesise that, in Latin America's comparatively White European axis of Argentina-Uruguay-Southern Brazil, Colombians - at least those who are either White or relatively light-skinned Mestizo - would still pass more easily than Brits would.

Rich British children
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[Tooting Carmen]

Rich Colombian children
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[Tooting Carmen]

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THE PHOTOS ARE NOW READY.

[Argentano]

rich Colombians pass better here. Argentines rarely look northern euro

[Tooting Carmen]

rich Colombians pass better here. Argentines rarely look northern euro

Surely 'rarely' is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? After all, I thought Argentina had quite substantial populations of Brits, Irish, French, Germans, Poles and Ukrainians, quite apart from the fact that a notable minority of Italians and Spaniards can look (pseudo) Northern Euro themselves.

[KMack]

"Do rich British children or rich Colombian"

Turbo trollish clickbait. All of these schools take in poor trash to educate them.

[Tooting Carmen]

"Do rich British children or rich Colombian"

Turbo trollish clickbait. All of these schools take in poor trash to educate them.

A few get in with a scholarship, but otherwise not really.

[Ruggery]

rich Colombians pass better here. Argentines rarely look northern euro

It is not very rare either.

[Ruggery]

Surely 'rarely' is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? After all, I thought Argentina had quite substantial populations of Brits, Irish, French, Germans, Poles and Ukrainians, quite apart from the fact that a notable minority of Italians and Spaniards can look (pseudo) Northern Euro themselves.

In Argentina there are barely British, the northern look in the Argentines comes mostly from Germans, Russians, Ukrainians, Baltics, Poles, Austrians and Scandinavians (would also include Italians from the north but few Germanic and northern look).

[Ruggery]

I would say closer to the Colombian children, although I also see many Colombians in the photos that have aspects that would be very atypical in Argentina.

[cyberlorian]

Rich Colombians pass better because both Rich Colombians and Argentinians have higher Iberian admixture, lower British admixture. Among Brits, it is contrary.

[Tooting Carmen]

I would say closer to the Colombian children, although I also see many Colombians in the photos that have aspects that would be very atypical in Argentina.

Yes, even among the supposedly uber-White upper-middle-classes, there are still more than a few with strongly Amerindian features who would look unusual even among more Mestizo Argentinians. But in answer to your other point: Chubut has the largest Welsh population anywhere outside the British Isles, while BA itself has quite a lot of English descendants who run their own schools and sports clubs and even have their own newspaper.

[Marinus]

The Rich Colombians, the more European ones look very similar to Southern Cone/Brazil whites, the mestizos can look quite different to S. Brazil's pardos though.

[Tooting Carmen]

The Rich Colombians, the more European ones look very similar to Southern Cone/Brazil whites, the mestizos can look quite different to S. Brazil's pardos though.

How do Pardos in Southern Brazil differ?

[Marinus]

How do Pardos in Southern Brazil differ?

Stronger black features than native in general.

[Annie999]

The Colombian admix of british?, iberian plus some native and SSA would blend better here than kids who are 100% brits. There is little british input in this region.

[Tooting Carmen]

Stronger black features than native in general.

The kids I posted are mostly from Bogota and nearby areas. If they were from Cartagena, Barranquilla or Cali they would look more Black-admixed (in some cases).

[Universe]

The british kids look very uniquely british. I wouldn't think they're American. It could be their attire, idk.

[Tooting Carmen]

The british kids look very uniquely british. I wouldn't think they're American. It could be their attire, idk.

Yeah, surely as individuals they'd fit fine as White American 'preppy' types, but I agree they look different as a group. Combination of attire and also certain facial features I think.

[Marinus]

The kids I posted are mostly from Bogota and nearby areas. If they were from Cartagena, Barranquilla or Cali they would look more Black-admixed (in some cases).

Similar to this?

http://files.paranahandebol.webnode.com/200084107-4556e474d2/Alto%20Paran%C3%A1%20PR.jpg

This is pretty much what the pados look like in the region, all the way from dark black skin, to beige with brown hair.

Though most pardos in Paraná are a lot lighter, but you can still see the black influence, in the other southern states it's similar.

These girls look more native admixed because most of their parents com from the northern Amazon region, that's the only place where native admix is stronger than black.

[Tooting Carmen]

Similar to this?

http://files.paranahandebol.webnode.com/200084107-4556e474d2/Alto%20Paran%C3%A1%20PR.jpg

This is pretty much what the pados look like in the region, all the way from dark black skin, to beige with brown hair.

Though most pardos in Paraná are a lot lighter, but you can still see the black influence, in the other southern states it's similar.

These girls look more native admixed because most of their parents com from the northern Amazon region, that's the only place where native admix is stronger than black.

Not too different, although the girl third from left in the back row looks pseudo-South Asian, while the girl on the far right in the front row also looks a bit odd for Colombia somehow.

[Valedictorian]

Well I don't know about "rich" Colombian kids as a whole, but at least in the school where I studied we looked as if we studied in Hogwarts. Because of the British-style uniforms we had to wear, and also quite a few of my classmates shared a similar ethnic background to mine, so there's also that. I'm not quite knowledgeable regarding the South Cone folks, so that's all I can say.

[Joso]

The both would pass but mainly in very rural cities with recent immigration

[Ruggery]

Well I don't know about "rich" Colombian kids as a whole, but at least in the school where I studied we looked as if we studied in Hogwarts. Because of the British-style uniforms we had to wear, and also quite a few of my classmates shared a similar ethnic background to mine, so there's also that. I'm not quite knowledgeable regarding the South Cone folks, so that's all I can say.

LoL Hogwarts :blink:

[Valedictorian]

LoL Hogwarts :blink:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/harrypotter/images/7/75/Uniform.jpeg

[Ruggery]

Yes, even among the supposedly uber-White upper-middle-classes, there are still more than a few with strongly Amerindian features who would look unusual even among more Mestizo Argentinians. But in answer to your other point: Chubut has the largest Welsh population anywhere outside the British Isles, while BA itself has quite a lot of English descendants who run their own schools and sports clubs and even have their own newspaper.

If there are some descendants of Welsh, English even Irish, but that percentage is very low among white Argentines, I have also seen English schools in Argentina, but only those institutions would be closer to British schools, within those schools there are also students of non-British origin, as I said, there are more whites of German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Scandinavian, French, Ukrainian than British origin in Argentina.

[Ruggery]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/harrypotter/images/7/75/Uniform.jpeg

Cual es el Hogwarts colombiano?

[Valedictorian]

Cual es el Hogwarts colombiano?

Colegio Anglo-Colombiano, Deutsche Schule, Colegio Helvetica, y el Liceo Frances Louis Pasteur son los primeros que se me vienen a la mente.

[Smaug]

Rich Colombians, I’d say.

[aherne]

British kids look incredibly American. Surprisingly robust also. No way in hell even a hundred of them not to pass completely unnoticed as Mormons or in Southern US. There is very strong Anglo-Saxon influence (Corded-Brunn) in many if not most...

Columbian kids look pred. White mixed race. In Argentina/Uruguay/S Brazil these are the dominant types, so they pass without a problem (as far as pictures of locals tell)...

[Tooting Carmen]

British kids look incredibly American. Surprisingly robust also. No way in hell even a hundred of them not to pass completely unnoticed as Mormons or in Southern US. There is very strong Anglo-Saxon influence (Corded-Brunn) in many if not most...

Columbian kids look pred. White mixed race. In Argentina/Uruguay/S Brazil these are the dominant types, so they pass without a problem (as far as pictures of locals tell)...

Which is actually not entirely unlike what I am claiming - even Argentinians, Uruguayans and Southern Brazilians still as a whole look closer to other Latin Americans (or rather, those who are not that strongly indigenous or Black in appearance) than they do to many Europeans.

[Token]

These British kids would stand out like a sore thumb in Southern Brazil.

[Tooting Carmen]

These British kids would stand out like a sore thumb in Southern Brazil.

Even in the German villages in Parana and Santa Catarina? xD

[Token]

Even in the German villages in Parana and Santa Catarina? xD

Yes, Brits have a very distinctive look.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes, Brits have a very distinctive look.

Yes, I suppose that there are more KNs and Atlantids and fewer Alpines, Tronders and Faelids compared to Germans.

[Token]

Yes, I suppose that there are more KNs and Atlantids and fewer Alpines, Tronders and Faelids compared to Germans.

That is how German-Brazilian children look like:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BeOywpgMQGs/UDZsbX2MxDI/AAAAAAAAF4o/mi8MtKAM6zw/s1600/Pneus+usados+viram+cisternas+para+abrigar+%C3%A1gu a+da+chuva+-+Escola+Municipal+Alfredo+Schneider,+em+Teutonia,+ construiu+e+utiliza+uma+cisterna+ecol%C3%B3gica,+f eita+com+pneus+usados.jpg

http://www.cicvaledotaquari.com.br/wp-content/uploads/concurso-lingua-alema1.jpg

http://www.rocasales-rs.com.br/noticias-historico/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/IMG_8466.jpg

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Rich Colombian children pass better, but children with strong SSA admixture are rarer than children with northwestern european admixture.

[Tooting Carmen]

Rich Colombian children pass better, but children with strong SSA admixture are rarer than children with northwestern european admixture.

Most of these kids are from Bogota, where the Black population is not that large (among any social class). If I were to post kids from Cali, Cartagena or Barranquilla (yes, even the rich ones) then that would be very different.

[Valedictorian]

Most of these kids are from Bogota, where the Black population is not that large (among any social class). If I were to post kids from Cali, Cartagena or Barranquilla (yes, even the rich ones) then that would be very different.

It isn't native either. By the time my paternal grandparents were raising my dad and his siblings (in Cajica), there weren't any black folks at all.

[Tooting Carmen]

It isn't native either. By the time my paternal grandparents were raising my dad and his siblings (in Cajica), there weren't any black folks at all.

The Council of Cajica. Many look Amerindian-influenced (more markedly than I'd say is the average in Bogota, in fact), but none look (overtly) part-Black: http://www.concejo-cajica-cundinamarca.gov.co/tema/directorio-de-funcionarios

[Sebastianus Rex]

Neither, rich britos look far too gringo, and rich columbian are way too mestizo.

They look closer to rich Portuguese kids imo.

https://www.colegiomirario.pt/ficheiros/dinamicos/multimedia/imagem/sliders/homepage/__fmhidden__bd63fad4cfd93ad52defb3993cf1aed8/1cde121c5ecb35507d8aefbb875f0460.jpg

https://ciencias.ulisboa.pt/sites/default/files/714Bimagem-corpo-noticiazdfg%20cghf_0.jpg

https://fd.lisboa.ucp.pt/sites/default/files/styles/landscape_16_9/public/assets/images/cvda.jpg?itok=pVjkJYdC

https://jornaleconomico.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Alunos-FCH-UCP.jpg

https://www.clsbe.lisboa.ucp.pt/sites/default/files/assets/images/catolica-business-set-16-34_0.jpg

https://fd.lisboa.ucp.pt/sites/default/files/styles/landscape_16_9/public/assets/images/mentoria18-19.jpg?itok=Oq77ce5W

https://nobelalgarve.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Nobel-National-Section-12-ano-Small.jpg

[Ruggery]

Neither, rich britos look far too gringo, and rich columbian are way too mestizo.

They look closer to rich Portuguese kids imo.


Colombias or British?

[Tooting Carmen]

Colombias or British?

He means that Argentinians, Uruguayans and Southern Brazilians look closer to the Portuguese than to either of my original options.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Colombias or British?

I was saying rich Portuguese kids (in the pics I posted) resemble way more to similar kids in Argentina, Uruguay and South Brazil than rich Brit and Colombian kids do.

Rich brits look far too gringo and rich colombians are too mestizo.

[Ruggery]

He means that Argentinians, Uruguayans and Southern Brazilians look closer to the Portuguese than to either of my original options.

Of course, Argentine / Uruguayan / South Brazilian students are on average more similar to Portuguese, Spanish and even Italian students than the poll groups.

[Ruggery]

I was saying rich Portuguese kids (in the pics I posted) resemble way more to similar kids in Argentina, Uruguay and South Brazil than rich Brit and Colombian kids do.

Rich brits look far too gringo and rich colombians are too mestizo.

You're right, the British are more from northern Europe and the Colombians are more mestizos.
Some gringos may seem Argentine and vice versa, but in group and average they are seen from the northwest of Europe.

Some Argentine and Portuguese students also see themselves from central Europe.