Classify Karelian beauties

[meiliren]

Karelians (Karelian: karjalaižet) are a Baltic-Finnic ethnic group.

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https://sun9-20.userapi.com/VOVjto95Twr5bgeJyXWdr16PVTUML4Ipq40iZQ/tDRq4zh62EU.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/W85XampqtFDOGeysZGiIcufqWhmaILWwTUpgiA/Wa5NWp_CEjA.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c319829/v319829559/a508/OMRec-ejpuk.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c301807/v301807559/362b4/EAZ7gPtav7M.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10727/v10727139/4a28/Ire2z9H5o-k.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/HvtpyHPAFZVMyepSDd2nKsRVB-v1_x5q-TsfjQ/0o1c_0xFOQE.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/BZ0wutive1K_1G98LKhSO3aDfcnrk4hfODuZ7Q/kzuzvv50h6c.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c6105/v6105331/61c9/j0UDnO-GJJc.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/4kDZeeaa_XrErBMrvERvp9uhFad9sMukNYRKUQ/tLeYfwD_J7g.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/8BaO-BhG9Sf2R2Rzlgh1asRUuSyo41u_4SGoPw/VWdSiw3FsG8.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10482/v10482365/5db/WmjbW2fplaU.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Lappid

[meiliren]

Bump.

[meiliren]

Bump.

[Impaler]

Baltid-Ladogan mix.

[Crimean]

Baltid+East Nordid+minor Uralic. The proportions are different for each of them, of course). Good looking overall.

[Harkonnen]

Baltid+East Nordid+minor Uralic. The proportions are different for each of them, of course). Good looking overall.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2q03eo4.jpg

There was some other thread here, where all sorts of women were posted as Karelians. I think these might actually be Karelians.

Picture I posted, proves Karelian is the real Uralic look.

[Joso]

Baltid+east nordid+ladogan

[Nayalar]

Baltid+East Nordid+minor Uralic. The proportions are different for each of them, of course). Good looking overall.

This.

[meiliren]

Baltid+East Nordid+minor Uralic.


Baltid+east nordid+ladogan

I agreed with that.


They are mix of Nordic, Baltic and the old Ladogan racial type.


Typical NE look.

[Harkonnen]

This.

Nope. Kylälahtic.

[Harkonnen]

I agreed with that.


They are mix of Nordic, Baltic and the old Ladogan racial type.


Typical NE look.

Not a mixed look.

[Harkonnen]

I agreed with that.


They are mix of Nordic, Baltic and the old Ladogan racial type.


Typical NE look.

Not a typical NE look.

[Nayalar]

Nope. Kylälahtic.

Go fight some muslims to protect your women and leave alone.

[meiliren]

Not a mixed look.

Do you think they look pure Ladogan?

[Harkonnen]

Do you think they look pure Ladogan?

Kylälahtic https://www.academia.edu/764235/New_craniometric_evidence_on_the_origin_of_the_Kar elians_the_Kylalahti_Kalmistomaki_burial_ground_

[meiliren]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2q03eo4.jpg

There was some other thread here, where all sorts of women were posted as Karelians. I think these might actually be Karelians.




They are from Republic of Karelia where 82,2 % of population is Russian and 7,4 % is Karelian.


But I think many Russian are assimilated Karelians.

[Harkonnen]

They are from Republic of Karelia where 82,2 % of population is Russian and 7,4 % is Karelian.


But I think many Russian are assimilated Karelians.

Nope they are not assimilated Karelians. Also there are very very few pure Karelians in Russia. Number is close to zero.

[meiliren]

Nope they are not assimilated Karelians. Also there are very very few pure Karelians in Russia. Number is close to zero.

The population of Karelians in different years.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/timeline/1d43eeaabb8302b615e310bd42846ffe.png

[Harkonnen]

The population of Karelians in different years.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/timeline/1d43eeaabb8302b615e310bd42846ffe.png

Whaa
Population in where?

[meiliren]

Whaa
Population in where?

In Russia.

[Harkonnen]

In Russia.

Ah ok. Looks nonsense to me.

[meiliren]

Ah ok. Looks nonsense to me.

I don't know what you mean but anyway they are good looking women.

Especially first one.


She looks very Northern.

[Harkonnen]

Go fight some muslims to protect your women and leave alone.

Facts are bitch

http://i67.tinypic.com/123qk9c.jpg

[Harkonnen]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2q03eo4.jpg


Modern and recent groups compared with Kylalahti Kalmistomäki are Karelians, Ingrians (Izhorians), Finns, Estonians, Komi Zyrians, Kola Sami, northern and northwestern Russians, Letts, Swedes of Finland and of Ruhnu Island, Estonia. The loadings of traits on the canonical variates are given in Table 4, and Fig. 2 shows the position of groups on canonical variates I and II, which jointly account for 56.8 % of the total variance. Traits with the highest positive loadings on CV I(32 % of variance) are cranial height and nasal protrusion angle, implying that on the between group level, groups with high vaults tend to display sharply protruding noses. As seen from Fig. 2, Karelians, Komi Zyrians, Ingrians as well as the Kylalahti Kalmistomäki group cluster on the positive extreme of CV I. The opposite extreme is taken by Sami groups, which demonstrate maximal gracility, low vault, and relatively weakly protruding noses. The Karelian series from Kompakovo falls in the center and is isolated from other Karelian groups due to a combination of medium high vault, mesobrachycrany, and a face that is flat by Karelian standards. Apparently, this group differs from other Karelians by origin (Khartanovich, 1986). Also intermediate between the Karelian and Finnish groups is a recent series from Kurkijoki, which was shown to be admixed (Khartanovich, 1990). Nevertheless, it is closer to Karelians and KomiZyrians than to Finns.

This means the more right you move (towards Kylälahti) in the pic above, the higher your skull is and more sharp the nose is. Simple.


CV II demonstrates that a lesser nasal protrusion angle co-occurs with a shorter braincase and a higher simotic index. The Sami living in the central parts of the Kola Peninsula in relative isolation from others score highest on CV II due to brachycrany and small nasal protrusion angle combined with the convex nasal bridge.Coastal Sami from Jokanga, and to a lesser degree those from Varzino, deviate from others and show a “Finnish”tendency probably because of a late northern Caucasoid admixture (Khartanovich, 1991b, 2004a). Certain groups of (Finland)Swedes and Letts score lowest on CV II. Generally, as seen from Fig. 2, Finnish, Estonian, Lettish, and Russian groups form no distinct clusters and display a high between-group variation, possibly because of their complex population history.Results of the multivariate analysis suggest that the Kylalahti Kalmistomäki group exhibits a distinctly Karelian trait combination, being closest to Karelians from Chiksha and Turha who retain the morphological specificity of ancient groups with their robust and very high braincase, a broad face, which is slightly flattened on the upper level and sharply profiled at the middle level, and a sharply protruding nose.


The more south you move on the pic above:


- skull gets longer
- nasal protrution angle grows
- zygomata gets weaker

[Finnish Swede]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2q03eo4.jpg



This means the more right you move (towards Kylälahti) in the pic above, the higher your skull is and more sharp the nose is. Simple.




The more south you move on the pic above:


- skull gets longer
- nasal protrution angle grows
- zygomata gets weaker

Nice picture Harkonnen...you was good drawing at school? LOL.

[Crimean]

Not a mixed look.
I agree with this statement. This phenotype is quite old and stabilized, which makes it possible to refer to the "non-mixed" one.
Now no one says that MENAs are obvious hybrids of Whites, Dravidians and a little bit of SSA;). Everybody counts them as pure.

[Harkonnen]

Nice picture Harkonnen...you was good drawing at school? LOL.

I was good at drawing trees and abstract stuff, but not much anything else.

[Harkonnen]

I agree with this statement. This phenotype is quite old and stabilized, which makes it possible to refer to the "non-mixed" one.
Now no one says that MENAs are obvious hybrids of Whites, Dravidians and a little bit of SSA;). Everybody counts them as pure.

I was going with different philosophy but nevermind :coffee:

[Crimean]

I was going with different philosophy but nevermind :coffee:
Because genetics and anthropology are ordinary pseudoscience, there are no standards, but each has its own "theory" and philosophy. Truth is somewhere else.
Therefore, disputes will continue until the shit out:eek:.

[meiliren]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2q03eo4.jpg



This means the more right you move (towards Kylälahti) in the pic above, the higher your skull is and more sharp the nose is. Simple.




The more south you move on the pic above:


- skull gets longer
- nasal protrution angle grows
- zygomata gets weaker


Thanks.

Very interesting information.

Are you ethnic Karelian?

[Finnish Swede]

Harkonnen: Would you keep her so called ''Karelian''? Or just a normal Finn?

She is ex. Miss Finland ... one who came from the most Eastern corner of Finland (North Karelia).
In any cases, she doesn't have any ''Russian vibe'' on her for sure.

http://lempimissit.suntuubi.com/datafiles/userfiles//000AAATARJASMU.jpg
https://is.mediadelivery.fi/img/some/default/88eba1daa15847a6aa32819bfd85c36a.jpg
https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/16384309/890full-tarja-smura.jpg
https://im.mtv.fi/image/1176200/landscape16_9/1024/576/584bf28d4aa775281a384ef18347ee5b/rs/1133150.jpg

[meiliren]

Harkonnen: Would you keep her so called ''Karelian''? Or just a normal Finn?

She is ex. Miss Finland ... one who came from the most Eastern corner of Finland (North Karelia).
In any cases, she doesn't have any ''Russian vibe'' on her for sure.

http://lempimissit.suntuubi.com/datafiles/userfiles//000AAATARJASMU.jpg
https://is.mediadelivery.fi/img/some/default/88eba1daa15847a6aa32819bfd85c36a.jpg
https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/16384309/890full-tarja-smura.jpg
https://im.mtv.fi/image/1176200/landscape16_9/1024/576/584bf28d4aa775281a384ef18347ee5b/rs/1133150.jpg

Looks Slavic.

[Dandelion]

Unlike Miss Suomi 2018, who only won for similar reasons as Miss Helsinki 2017 that Karelian woman won deservingly.

[Finnish Swede]

Looks Slavic.

Not a slavic Russian for sure...

[meiliren]

Not a slavic Russian for sure...

I meant Russian.


She doesn't look typical Finnish woman.

Rather Russian look than Finnish.

[Dandelion]

It's true that Russians are the result of Slavs assimilating Uralic peoples, but they still look very different.

[Finnish Swede]

I meant Russian.


She doesn't look typical Finnish woman.

Rather Russian look than Finnish.


HALOO!!!...knock knock ...Is there anybody home?

To whom you are trying to convince that?! Me?! LOL.

[Dandelion]

Miss Suomi won because of having a Russian name. Any Russian who assimilates into Finnish culture gets brownie points, as it's 'unusual'.

It reminds me of how Flemish Eurosong sent a Walloon to represent Belgium, despite his song being boring and didn't do well at all. They did it because they saw a nice Walloon living in Antwerp struggling learning Dutch and the idea that 'it'd be hilarious for us Flemish to send a Walloon'. ;)

It's human psychology, I think.

[Crimean]

Harkonnen: Would you keep her so called ''Karelian''? Or just a normal Finn?

She is ex. Miss Finland ... one who came from the most Eastern corner of Finland (North Karelia).
In any cases, she doesn't have any ''Russian vibe'' on her for sure.

http://lempimissit.suntuubi.com/datafiles/userfiles//000AAATARJASMU.jpg
I agree that she does not look either Russian or Finnish.
More Central European vibe in her (Austian-Croatian or so).

[VirilLignac]

Karelians (Karelian: karjalaižet) are a Baltic-Finnic ethnic group.

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https://img.playbuzz.com/image/upload/c_crop/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy,w_640,c_limit/v1531830675/yrix6kdul5ilzih8almj.png
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https://sun9-20.userapi.com/VOVjto95Twr5bgeJyXWdr16PVTUML4Ipq40iZQ/tDRq4zh62EU.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/W85XampqtFDOGeysZGiIcufqWhmaILWwTUpgiA/Wa5NWp_CEjA.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c319829/v319829559/a508/OMRec-ejpuk.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c301807/v301807559/362b4/EAZ7gPtav7M.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10727/v10727139/4a28/Ire2z9H5o-k.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/HvtpyHPAFZVMyepSDd2nKsRVB-v1_x5q-TsfjQ/0o1c_0xFOQE.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c6105/v6105331/61c9/j0UDnO-GJJc.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/4kDZeeaa_XrErBMrvERvp9uhFad9sMukNYRKUQ/tLeYfwD_J7g.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/8BaO-BhG9Sf2R2Rzlgh1asRUuSyo41u_4SGoPw/VWdSiw3FsG8.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10482/v10482365/5db/WmjbW2fplaU.jpg

East Baltid
they look like Finns/Estonians.

[Komintasavalta]

I don't know what you mean but anyway they are good looking women.

Especially first one.


She looks very Northern.

Yeah that one looks like she could be half Khanty.

The last one has wog UEE and the kind of bad orbit shape that is associated with too high UEE. Some people can have high orbits but low UEE, but they usually have a different orbit shape than this.

https://i.imgur.com/5i0dBEQ.jpg

[Ahana]

bella

[travv]

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https://pp.userapi.com/HvtpyHPAFZVMyepSDd2nKsRVB-v1_x5q-TsfjQ/0o1c_0xFOQE.jpg


This is the best looking to me because she looks very Mari.


https://i.imgur.com/WJ1HJXq.png

[VirilLignac]

Karelians (Karelian: karjalaižet) are a Baltic-Finnic ethnic group.

1.
https://img.playbuzz.com/image/upload/c_crop/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy,w_640,c_limit/v1531830675/yrix6kdul5ilzih8almj.png
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https://sun9-20.userapi.com/VOVjto95Twr5bgeJyXWdr16PVTUML4Ipq40iZQ/tDRq4zh62EU.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/W85XampqtFDOGeysZGiIcufqWhmaILWwTUpgiA/Wa5NWp_CEjA.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c319829/v319829559/a508/OMRec-ejpuk.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c301807/v301807559/362b4/EAZ7gPtav7M.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10727/v10727139/4a28/Ire2z9H5o-k.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/HvtpyHPAFZVMyepSDd2nKsRVB-v1_x5q-TsfjQ/0o1c_0xFOQE.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/BZ0wutive1K_1G98LKhSO3aDfcnrk4hfODuZ7Q/kzuzvv50h6c.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c6105/v6105331/61c9/j0UDnO-GJJc.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/4kDZeeaa_XrErBMrvERvp9uhFad9sMukNYRKUQ/tLeYfwD_J7g.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/8BaO-BhG9Sf2R2Rzlgh1asRUuSyo41u_4SGoPw/VWdSiw3FsG8.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c10482/v10482365/5db/WmjbW2fplaU.jpg

Most of them look like Estonians, they look like Mena Suvari.
Probably the Balto-Finnic version of Uralid/Baltid race.