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Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 06:24 PM
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50040/1000797016/original/young-barbra-streisand-with-checkered-messenger-hat-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J9irhzKwEbg/maxresdefault.jpg
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/barbra-streisand-long-nails-typing.jpg
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Smeagol
12-20-2018, 06:27 PM
Italy.

Hulu
12-20-2018, 06:27 PM
Barbra Streisand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhtcU4-xAM

Hulu
12-20-2018, 06:30 PM
Why in personal taxonomy? She's pretty famous

Seth MacFarlane
12-20-2018, 06:30 PM
Italy , Greece , Balkans . Between Nordic and dinaric

Hulu
12-20-2018, 06:32 PM
Italy , Greece , Balkans .

Absolutely not, she can only pass in some slavic countries, Poland, Slovakia, Czech, Croatia.

Seth MacFarlane
12-20-2018, 06:36 PM
Absolutely not, she can only pass in some slavic countries, Poland, Slovakia, Czech, Croatia.

Those also

Avgvstvs
12-20-2018, 06:51 PM
Most probably Central Europe,Italy and France imo

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Tauromachos
12-20-2018, 07:05 PM
Yes she can

Where she doesn't pass is Levant

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 07:08 PM
Yes she can

Where she doesn't pass is Levant

She looks like a mixture of North Italian and Levantine to me, leaning toward Italic.

Tooting Carmen
12-20-2018, 07:11 PM
Looks like a French-Armenian mix. Think Cher only blonder and fairer and without the Cherokee element.

nafz
12-20-2018, 07:20 PM
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50040/1000797016/original/young-barbra-streisand-with-checkered-messenger-hat-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J9irhzKwEbg/maxresdefault.jpg
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/barbra-streisand-long-nails-typing.jpg
https://www.grammy.com/sites/com/files/styles/news_detail_header/public/gettyimages-846199196.jpg?itok=95vZEnqO


Italy , Greece , Balkans . Between Nordic and dinaric

To me she looks like the female version of Ringo Starr (North Atlantid & Armenoid aka Littorid) . This combination is rarely found if at all in Greece and the Balkans.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2010/01/500x_ringo.jpg

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 07:21 PM
To me she looks like the female version of Ringo Starr (North Atlantid & Armenoid aka Littorid) . This combination is rarely found if at all in Greece and the Balkans.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2010/01/500x_ringo.jpg

Can she pass in Sicily or south Italy at all to you?

nafz
12-20-2018, 07:24 PM
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50040/1000797016/original/young-barbra-streisand-with-checkered-messenger-hat-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J9irhzKwEbg/maxresdefault.jpg
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/barbra-streisand-long-nails-typing.jpg
https://www.grammy.com/sites/com/files/styles/news_detail_header/public/gettyimages-846199196.jpg?itok=95vZEnqO


Can she pass in Sicily or south Italy at all to you?

Very atypically, the few light Sicilians Ive seen don't look like her.

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 07:28 PM
Very atypically, the few light Sicilians Ive seen don't look like her.

Her features look closer to some darker Sicilians, but light. See woman on right, if she was depigmented she'd look like Streisand.

However most light pigmented Sicilians look more like north Italians or something.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46065707_1927920143922759_4300832499044450304_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fbed1-2.fna&oh=7f4282c7cda514dfeac1e19c5394ae53&oe=5C9A9D26

Tauromachos
12-20-2018, 07:34 PM
:picard2: Man simply give it up she doesn't look Sicilian
no one would think she is Sicilian if she would walk through the streets somewhere

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 07:36 PM
:picard2: Man simply give it up she doesn't look Sicilian
no one would think she is Sicilian if she would walk through the streets somewhere

If they didn't recognize her as Jewish, people would look at her coloring and think something Nordic before Sicilian because people are stupid and only go by coloring. I am just saying her facial features look like the woman in that photo.

Tauromachos
12-20-2018, 07:38 PM
If they didn't recognize her as Jewish, people would look at her coloring and think something Nordic before Sicilian because people are stupid and only go by coloring. I am just saying her facial features look like the woman in that photo.

No one would think she is Sicilian and she doesn't pass in Cyprus or Dodecanese.

Joliemome
12-20-2018, 07:42 PM
LOOOL Barbra Streisand has nothing to do with Sicily and doesn't look Sicilian at all

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 07:43 PM
LOOOL Barbra Streisand has nothing to do with Sicily and doesn't look Sicilian at all

She is genetically close to them, Ashkenazi Jews are genetically close to southern Italians. Where have you been all these years that you do not know this?

Avgvstvs
12-20-2018, 07:45 PM
Her features look closer to some darker Sicilians, but light. See woman on right, if she was depigmented she'd look like Streisand.

However most light pigmented Sicilians look more like north Italians or something.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46065707_1927920143922759_4300832499044450304_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fbed1-2.fna&oh=7f4282c7cda514dfeac1e19c5394ae53&oe=5C9A9D26I think that when it comes to Italians we should all consider not only phenotype but a sort of "vibe".....i know it might sound weird but there are a lot of phenotypes that are panitalian and that we all share but let me explain it with an example: i saw several Dinaromed southerners who could exclusively pass as south Italians....as a counterpart there are Northern Dinaromeds who don't look southern at all......Matteo Salvini is a good example of that,since he is Dinaromed,dark haired and eyed but looks strongly North Italian and wouldn't be mistaken for a southerner in my honest opinion....i don't really know how to explain this vibe thing but there is.

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nafz
12-20-2018, 07:46 PM
If they didn't recognize her as Jewish, people would look at her coloring and think something Nordic before Sicilian because people are stupid and only go by coloring. I am just saying her facial features look like the woman in that photo.


I dont think she looks much like the woman in the night club.


I think she has a much better chance to pass as an exotic or unusual West European (English, French etc) than as a Sicilian or Greek.

Compare her features to this Northern French actor:

http://www.aveleyman.com/Gallery/2017/P/105658.jpg

http://edc.stardist.org/edc/part/carton_jc/rim/Galerie_PPDE_fichiers/Andre%2520Penvern.jpg

Joliemome
12-20-2018, 07:51 PM
She is genetically close to them, Ashkenazi Jews are genetically close to southern Italians. Where have you been all these years that you do not know this?

1) Being genetically close doesn't mean being the same people.

2) I am a Southern Italian, I live in Southern Italy, all my friends are Southern Italians and I know my people very well. And Barbra Streisand is not Sicilian and doesn't look Sicilian at all.

Tauromachos
12-20-2018, 07:53 PM
LOOOL Barbra Streisand has nothing to do with Sicily and doesn't look Sicilian at all

This^

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 08:01 PM
1) Being genetically close doesn't mean being the same people.

2) I am a Southern Italian, I live in Southern Italy, all my friends are Southern Italians and I know my people very well. And Barbra Streisand is not Sicilian and doesn't look Sicilian at all.

We can have our own separate opinions. I disagree with yours. I never said she would be typical, though. And she could probably also pass in some other European regions, too.

Sikeliot
12-20-2018, 09:16 PM
bump

MysteriousWays
12-20-2018, 11:56 PM
Something like Norid to Nordo-Med range. She doesn't strike me as typical in any one European country, but she looks a bit like someone I know who is half Ashkenazi, half Lombardian.

Xacal
07-02-2022, 05:41 PM
Depigmented Armenoid. Can pass in Malta, maybe

TTRS
07-02-2022, 05:46 PM
Pass in every place of Italy

Xacal
07-02-2022, 05:47 PM
Pass in every place of Italy

Only in the South