My G25 coordiniates have arrived!

[Kamal900]

Can anyone help me run them to nMonite or something? I really want to see my results!

PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12 ,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22 ,PC23,PC24,PC25
Moody_scaled,0.067156,0.132019,-0.05242,-0.068153,-0.011694,-0.023427,-0.00094,-0.008538,0.004295,0.004738,-0.000974,-0.005845,0.013528,-0.003028,0.00095,0.002519,-0.002347,-0.004054,-0.003645,-0.002001,0.004866,-0.000124,0.004807,0.00012,-0.001197

PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12 ,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22 ,PC23,PC24,PC25
Moody,0.0059,0.013,-0.0139,-0.0211,-0.0038,-0.0084,-0.0004,-0.0037,0.0021,0.0026,-0.0006,-0.0039,0.0091,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0019,-0.0018,-0.0032,-0.0029,-0.0016,0.0039,-0.0001,0.0039,0.0001,-0.001

Thank you.

[Ayetooey]

I see you struggled with the DIY program Davidski provided as well. I got my co-ordinates yesterday :p.

While you wait here are some online programs you can use. 1st one has custom calcs you can compare, 2nd is just populations, but you can run your data with up to 4 pops in the 2nd.

http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html
http://185.144.156.77:3000/

[Ayetooey]

Iron age world 19.

SWAsian: 58.33
Caucasian: 21.67
Med: 6.67
IndoAyran: 5.83
NAfrican: 3.33
Europe: 2.5
SSA: 0.83
EAfrica: 0.83.

[Kamal900]

Here are my results. These are scaled of penalty between 0 to 0.01:

https://i.ibb.co/dKn00fb/scaled-0.png
https://i.ibb.co/1n6qsQG/scaled-0-01.png

Phew. Looks like I'm shifted to Armenia while having Arabian and Egyptian and Canaanite ancestries. What do you guys think?

[FinalFlash]

Here are my results. These are scaled of penalty between 0 to 0.01:

https://i.ibb.co/dKn00fb/scaled-0.png
https://i.ibb.co/1n6qsQG/scaled-0-01.png

Phew. Looks like I'm shifted to Armenia while having Arabian and Egyptian and Canaanite ancestries. What do you guys think?

Show us your Oracle

[Kamal900]

Show us your Oracle

Sure. Which calculator?

[FinalFlash]

Sure. Which calculator?

The G25 nMonte that you're using. I'm not sure how to access its calculator tbh but they have maps

[Sikeliot]

Phew. Looks like I'm shifted to Armenia while having Arabian and Egyptian and Canaanite ancestries. What do you guys think?

This is what I said when I compared you to the Palestinian Christian GEDmatch result.

[Kamal900]

This is what I said when I compared you to the Palestinian Christian GEDmatch result.

What is Armenia EBA?

[FinalFlash]

What is Armenia EBA?

Early Bronze Age

[Kamal900]

The G25 nMonte that you're using. I'm not sure how to access its calculator tbh but they have maps

Yeah. Hold on.

[Kamal900]

The G25 nMonte that you're using. I'm not sure how to access its calculator tbh but they have maps

Here you go, brah:
https://i.ibb.co/mSM8N9B/2.png
https://i.ibb.co/5T1tmH1/3.png

What do you think?

[Kamal900]

This is what I said when I compared you to the Palestinian Christian GEDmatch result.

But why is that? I mean, do you think I have recent Armenian ancestry or something? I know on the fact that I'm part bedouin and egyptian but..

[Haider]

How can I get my coordinates and run them on my phone?

[Kamal900]

How can I get my coordinates and run them on my phone?

You need to go to Eurogenes and ask the guy to do it for you for 12 USD. Here's his email: eurogenesblog@gmail.com

[nittionia]

What's the difference between scaled and not scaled coordinates?

[Kamal900]

How can I get my coordinates and run them on my phone?

Also, what do you think of my results, bro:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?271698-My-G25-coordiniates-have-arrived!&p=5676872&viewfull=1#post5676872

[Kamal900]

What's the difference between scaled and not scaled coordinates?

Not scaled doesn't seem to be remotly accurate. The distance was over 12% which is really bad. I used scaled for me results.

[FinalFlash]

Here you go, brah:
https://i.ibb.co/mSM8N9B/2.png
https://i.ibb.co/5T1tmH1/3.png

What do you think?

I think this online version is limited in its functions. You can still move your mouse over on those dots on the maps to see which populations are at what distance. Give that a go on the modern map and see if it lines up with what Gedmatch tells you. Are there differences in the results here?

[Kamal900]

I think this online version is limited in its functions. You can still move your mouse over on those dots on the maps to see which populations are at what distance. Give that a go on the modern map and see if it lines up with what Gedmatch tells you. Are there differences in the results here?

Did it. Not really no. Looks like I cluster the closest to Syrian Jews and Northern Levantines including those from Hatay..the more the reason that the land should be given back to us Semites, rofl. Btw, why do I have such high Armenian EBA ancestry than other Levantines? Could it be that I have recent Armenian ancestry or something?

[Sikeliot]

I think there was a wave of CHG-heavy migration that didn't affect the more isolated Levantine groups as much as the general population, which is why you differed from Samaritans and Palestinian Christians. Similarly, the Mozabite affinity could signify part of the genome of Egyptians, as I believe Muslim Palestinians have some degree of Egyptian ancestry. Egyptians are a mixture of Maghrebi, Arabian, Ethiopian and Levantine-like elements.

[Kamal900]

I think there was a wave of CHG-heavy migration that didn't affect the more isolated Levantine groups as much as the general population, which is why you differed from Samaritans and Palestinian Christians. Similarly, the Mozabite affinity could signify part of the genome of Egyptians, as I believe Muslim Palestinians have some degree of Egyptian ancestry. Egyptians are a mixture of Maghrebi, Arabian, Ethiopian and Levantine-like elements.

Thanks brah.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

<thead>

Model
Sample
Details
Fit
Map
Egyptian
Greek
Iranian Fars
Levant BA North

</thead><tbody>
1
Egyptian +Greek +Iranian_Fars +Levant_BA_North
Custom:Moody_scaled

1.1002
Open Map (http://185.144.156.77:3000/maps?datasheet_selected=%5B%22global25%22%5D&add_groups=%5B%22Egyptian%22%2C%22Greek%22%2C%22Ir anian_Fars%22%2C%22Levant_BA_North%22%5D&add_groups_weights=16.67%2C10.83%2C28.33%2C44.17&add_individuals=%5B%5D&add_individuals_weights=)
16.67
10.83
28.33
44.17

</tbody>

[Kamal900]

<thead>

Model
Sample
Details
Fit
Map
Egyptian
Greek
Iranian Fars
Levant BA North

</thead><tbody>
1
Egyptian +Greek +Iranian_Fars +Levant_BA_North
Custom:Moody_scaled

1.1002
Open Map (http://185.144.156.77:3000/maps?datasheet_selected=%5B%22global25%22%5D&add_groups=%5B%22Egyptian%22%2C%22Greek%22%2C%22Ir anian_Fars%22%2C%22Levant_BA_North%22%5D&add_groups_weights=16.67%2C10.83%2C28.33%2C44.17&add_individuals=%5B%5D&add_individuals_weights=)
16.67
10.83
28.33
44.17

</tbody>

Makes a lot of sense. I'm part Greek from my paternal ancestry. I was wondering when it will show up. Looks like what Sikeliot said was right. I do have direct Egyptian ancestry. Thanks brother.

[Haider]

Also, what do you think of my results, bro:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?271698-My-G25-coordiniates-have-arrived!&p=5676872&viewfull=1#post5676872

I think they are consistent with your known Palestinian, Aramean, Lebanese, Egyptian, Greek and Bedouin ancestries.

[Kamal900]

I think they are consistent with your known Palestinian, Aramean, Lebanese, Egyptian, Greek and Bedouin ancestries.

Yup. Can't wait to see yours, rofl.

[FinalFlash]

Did it. Not really no. Looks like I cluster the closest to Syrian Jews and Northern Levantines including those from Hatay..the more the reason that the land should be given back to us Semites, rofl. Btw, why do I have such high Armenian EBA ancestry than other Levantines? Could it be that I have recent Armenian ancestry or something?

Not quite sure. Try to mix yourself with modern-day populations.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Makes a lot of sense. I'm part Greek from my paternal ancestry. I was wondering when it will show up. Looks like what Sikeliot said was right. I do have direct Egyptian ancestry. Thanks brother.

Where are you from?

[Sikeliot]

Makes a lot of sense. I'm part Greek from my paternal ancestry. I was wondering when it will show up. Looks like what Sikeliot said was right. I do have direct Egyptian ancestry. Thanks brother.

Was this Greek ancestor a Muslim Cretan?

[Haider]

Did it. Not really no. Looks like I cluster the closest to Syrian Jews and Northern Levantines including those from Hatay..the more the reason that the land should be given back to us Semites, rofl. Btw, why do I have such high Armenian EBA ancestry than other Levantines? Could it be that I have recent Armenian ancestry or something?

Most likely from this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Maps_of_the_Armenian_Empire_of_Tigranes.gif

[Kamal900]

Where are you from?

Palestinian. My family are Muslims. From Acre.

[Kamal900]

Was this Greek ancestor a Muslim Cretan?

Nope. She was a Macedonian Greek.

[Sikeliot]

Nope. She was a Macedonian Greek.

How the hell did they end up in Palestine? :lol:

[Kamal900]

Not quite sure. Try to mix yourself with modern-day populations.

My italian friend already did it for me:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?271698-My-G25-coordiniates-have-arrived!&p=5676960&viewfull=1#post5676960

[Kamal900]

How the hell did they end up in Palestine? :lol:

My great great grand father was a Ottoman soldier, and he married her when he was in Egypt. That's what my dad told me.

[Sikeliot]

My great great grand father was a Ottoman soldier, and he married her when he was in Egypt. That's what my dad told me.

So was she on vacation in Egypt?

[Kamal900]

So was she on vacation in Egypt?

Her family migrated to Egypt.

[StonyArabia]

Cool results they make sense

[Kamal900]

Cool results they make sense

What do you make of this? I mean, your analysis.

[StonyArabia]

What do you make of this? I mean, your analysis.

The base is Levantine with Arabian, Egyptian and Greek influence

[Smeagol]

Interesting, you seem northern shifted for a Palestinian. Didn't you say you had some Greek ancestry?

[Kamal900]

Interesting, you seems northern shifted for a Palestinian. Didn't you say you had some Greek ancestry?

Yup, bro. It seems that I have good Egyptian ancestry as well, lol. The average Mozabite admixture among Palestinians is 5% while I get over 15%.

[Selurong]

Your ancestors are all over the place bro!

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[Kamal900]

Your ancestors are all over the place bro!

Sent from my CHM-U01 using Tapatalk

Yup. You can say that I'm Levantine with significant amount of Egyptian, Arabian, and Greek ancestries.

[Selurong]

Yup. You can say that I'm Levantine with significant amount of Egyptian, Arabian, and Greek ancestries.What ancestry do you identity with the most?

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[Kamal900]

What ancestry do you identity with the most?

Sent from my CHM-U01 using Tapatalk

I'm Palestinian but I cherish all of my ancestries and heritage to the fullest.

[Lemgrant]

nMonte3, pen=0.001

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Lebanese_Muslim Lebanese_Druze Druze Palestinian
2.264557 2.739260 3.149982 3.339445
Syrian_Jew Lebanese_Christian Iraqi_Jew Libyan_Jew
3.356333 3.520259 4.056145 4.203270

[1] "distance%=1.3902"

Moody_scaled

Lebanese_Muslim,9.4
Lebanese_Druze,8.8
Syrian_Jew,4.8
Palestinian,4.6
Druze,3.6
Iraqi_Jew,3.4
Levant_BA_North,3.4
Libyan_Jew,2.8
Lebanese_Christian,2.6
Samaritan,2.4
Assyrian,2.2
England_Roman_o,2
BedouinA,1.8
Iranian_Jew,1.8
Seh_Gabi_ChL,1.8
Romaniote_Jew,1.6
Georgian_Jew,1.4
Hajji_Firuz_ChL,1.4
Levant_BA_South,1.4
Moroccan_Jew,1.2
Tunisian_Jew,1.2
Anatolia_EBA,1
Egyptian,1
Jordanian,1
Levant_ChL,1
Levant_N,1
Libyan,1
Yemenite_Al_Jawf,1
Yemenite_Jew,1
Azeri,0.8
Georgian_Laz,0.8
Saudi,0.8
Turkish_Adana,0.8
Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.8
Yemenite_Amran,0.8
Yemenite_Mahra,0.8
Anatolia_ChL,0.6
Armenian,0.6
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,0.6
Cypriot,0.6
Greek_Trabzon,0.6
Iranian_Mazandarani,0.6
Tunisian,0.6
Turkish_Trabzon,0.6
Wezmeh_Cave_N,0.6
Algerian,0.4
Armenia_EBA,0.4
BedouinB,0.4
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.4
Greek_Crete,0.4
Iranian_Lor,0.4
Iranian_Persian,0.4
Italian_Jew,0.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,0.4
Kumyk,0.4
Kurdish,0.4
Moroccan,0.4
Natufian,0.4
Parkhai_MBA,0.4
Tanzania_Luxmanda_3000BP,0.4
Turkish_Kayseri,0.4
Adygei,0.2
Anatolia_IA,0.2
Anatolia_MLBA,0.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.2
Azeri_Dagestan,0.2
Balkar,0.2
Balochi,0.2
Beaker_Hungary_o,0.2
Beaker_Northern_Italy_no_steppe,0.2
Bustan_BA,0.2
Butkara_IA,0.2
CHG,0.2
Datog,0.2
Dzharkutan2_BA,0.2
English_Cornwall,0.2
Ethiopia_4500BP,0.2
Ethiopian_Oromo,0.2
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Gonur1_BA,0.2
Gupta,0.2
Hazara_Afghanistan,0.2
Iberomaurusian,0.2
Iran_recent,0.2
Iranian_Bandari,0.2
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.2
Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
Italian_South,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
Kshatriya,0.2
Makrani,0.2
Malawi_Hora_Holocene,0.2
Maltese,0.2
Minoan_Lasithi,0.2
Mozabite,0.2
Namazga_Eneolithic,0.2
North_Ossetian,0.2
Parkhai_Eneolithic,0.2
Parkhai_LBA,0.2
Parkhai_LBA_o,0.2
Pashtun,0.2
Peloponnese_N_o,0.2
Sephardic_Jew,0.2
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.2
Somali,0.2
South_Africa_2000BP,0.2
Spanish_Aragon,0.2
Spanish_Canarias,0.2
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.2
Spanish_Cataluna,0.2
Spanish_Extremadura,0.2
Spanish_Murcia,0.2
Tepe_Anau_Eneolithic,0.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,0.2
Yemenite_Dhamar,0.2
Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.2

individual references, pen=0.001

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121 Lebanese_Druze:1247
2.614749 2.741848
Lebanese_Druze:799 Druze:GS000016135
2.751388 2.754127
Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewSY06 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127
2.933266 2.940027
Lebanese_Druze:1271 Lebanese_Druze:1056
3.038163 3.039707



[1] "distance%=1.2251"

Moody_scaled

Lebanese_Druze,22.8
Druze,9
Lebanese_Muslim,9
Palestinian,7.4
Syrian_Jew,6
Iraqi_Jew,3
Lebanese_Christian,3
Libyan_Jew,2
Assyrian,1.8
BedouinB,1.6
Iranian_Zoroastrian,1.4
Romaniote_Jew,1.4
Samaritan,1.4
Yemenite_Mahra,1.4
Greek_Trabzon,1.2
Iranian_Persian,1.2
Levant_BA_North,1.2
Armenian,1
BedouinA,1
Hajji_Firuz_ChL,0.8
Levant_ChL,0.8
Tunisian_Jew,0.8
Azeri_Iran,0.6
Cypriot,0.6
Egyptian,0.6
Libyan,0.6
Moroccan_Jew,0.6
Mozabite,0.6
Sappali_Tepe_BA,0.6
Tunisian,0.6
Turkish_Trabzon,0.6
Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.6
Adygei,0.4
Anatolia_BA,0.4
Azeri,0.4
Chechen,0.4
Georgian_Laz,0.4
Iranian_Jew,0.4
Iranian_Lor,0.4
Iranian_Mazandarani,0.4
Italian_Jew,0.4
Kabardin,0.4
Makrani,0.4
Moroccan,0.4
Saudi,0.4
Sephardic_Jew,0.4
Tarkalani,0.4
Turkish_Kayseri,0.4
Yemenite_Amran,0.4
Yemenite_Dhamar,0.4
Yemenite_Jew,0.4
Abkhasian,0.2
Algerian,0.2
Anatolia_MLBA,0.2
Armenia_EBA,0.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.2
Balochi,0.2
Bantu_S.W.,0.2
Brahui,0.2
Datog,0.2
Dzharkutan1_BA,0.2
Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith,0.2
Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator,0.2
Georgian_Jew,0.2
Globular_Amphora,0.2
Hadza,0.2
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,0.2
Iberia_MN,0.2
Iranian_Bandari,0.2
Iranian_Fars,0.2
Irish,0.2
Jordanian,0.2
Kalash,0.2
Kohistani,0.2
Kumyk,0.2
Kurdish,0.2
Levant_BA_South,0.2
Masai,0.2
Natufian,0.2
Portuguese,0.2
Roma,0.2
Saharawi,0.2
San,0.2
Spanish_Murcia,0.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,0.2
Turkish_Adana,0.2
Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.2

result with pen=0

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)

[1] "distance%=0.807"

Moody_scaled

England_Roman_o,23.8
Georgian_Jew,14.8
Yemenite_Jew,7
Anatolia_ChL,6.4
Parkhai_MBA,6.4
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,5
Germany_Medieval_o,4.8
Moroccan_Jew,4.8
Levant_BA_North,4.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o2,3.4
Iraqi_Jew,3.2
Jordanian,2.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,1.8
Iberomaurusian,1.6
Levant_N,1.4
Seh_Gabi_LN,1.4
Shetlandic,1.4
Saharawi,1.2
Barikot_IA,1
Arkotkila_IA,0.6
Algerian,0.4
Armenia_EBA,0.4
Biaka,0.4
CHG,0.4
Mbuti,0.4
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD,0.2
Papuan,0.2
Sappali_Tepe_BA,0.2
She,0.2
Tujia,0.2


getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
[1] "distance%=0.336"

Moody_scaled

Levant_BA_North,11.4
Iraqi_Jew,9
Georgian_Imer,7
Armenian,6.6
Yemenite_Jew,6.6
Egyptian,4.6
Iranian_Mazandarani,4.4
Levant_ChL,4.2
Abkhasian,3.2
Palestinian,3.2
Iranian_Jew,2.8
Yemenite_Amran,2.8
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,2.6
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,2.4
Gonur1_BA,2
Yemenite_Mahra,2
Belgian,1.8
Iberomaurusian,1.8
Iberia_Central_CA,1.6
Chechen,1.4
Saharawi,1.4
Irish,1.2
Libyan_Jew,1.2
Sappali_Tepe_BA,1.2
Balkans_N,1
Peloponnese_N,1
Algerian,0.8
Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
Levant_N,0.6
Mbuti,0.6
Minoan_Lasithi,0.6
Moroccan,0.6
Moroccan_Jew,0.6
Seh_Gabi_ChL,0.6
Tujia,0.6
Assyrian,0.4
Georgian_Jew,0.4
Germany_Medieval_o,0.4
Greek_Crete,0.4
Gujarati,0.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.4
Lebanese_Druze,0.4
Mentese_N,0.4
Mozabite,0.4
Anatolia_ChL,0.2
BedouinB,0.2
Brahmin_Gujarat,0.2
Cimmerian_Moldova,0.2
Dutch,0.2
England_Roman_o,0.2
Ethiopian_Jew,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
LBK_N_Austria,0.2
Lebanese_Christian,0.2
Turkish_Istanbul,0.2
Turkish_Trabzon,0.2

Ancient

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790733 LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790732
4.789017 4.833605
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790730 LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790731
5.111293 5.588090
ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2210 ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2212
6.206077 6.236825
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790729 ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2213
6.259783 6.400707

[1] "distance%=2.1893"

Moody_scaled

LEVANT,72.6
BACTRIA-MARGIANA,12.8
BEAKERS-CENTRAL-EUROPEAN,5.2
ARMENIA-EBA,2.2
ANATOLIA_EBA,2
CENTRAL-ASIA,1
NO-STEPPE-CENTRAL-EUROPEANS,1
BEAKERS-HUNGARY,0.6
BRITAIN-CA-EBA,0.6
BEAKERS-BRITAIN,0.4
BEAKERS-IBERIA-ITALY,0.4
HUNS,0.4
IBEROMAURUSIAN,0.4
PRE-STEPPE-IBERIA,0.2
URAL-SIBERIA,0.2


Michal K50 calculator

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Levant European_Jewish Armenian_Assyrian Azeri
2.487677 4.798964 5.615392 7.461601
Sicilian_Maltese Northeast_African Iranian West_Turkish
7.609801 7.931001 8.876619 9.404682

[1] "distance%=1.4792"

Moody_scaled

Levant,52.4
Northeast_African,9.2
Armenian_Assyrian,8.4
European_Jewish,8.2
Yemenite_Arab,5.6
Abkhasian_Georgian,5
Iranian,3.4
Azeri,2.6
Northwest_African,2
Amharic,0.8
Iberian,0.4
Pashtun,0.4
Circassian,0.2
Dardic,0.2
Malawi_San,0.2
Pallar_Maratha,0.2
Somali_Oromo,0.2
South_Indian,0.2
Tajik,0.2
West_Turkish,0.2

[MsSPF]

Bsa7tek khey, welcome to the tribe ;-)

For your Mozabite ancestries, it could be also an unknown Maghrebi ancestor ? Few Algerians migrated to Palestine in the 19th century. They fled Algeria because of the colonization and most of them went to Northern Palestine especially Gallilee and Damascus, Syria.

[Kamal900]

Bsa7tek khey, welcome to the tribe ;-)

For your Mozabite ancestries, it could be also an unknown Maghrebi ancestor ? Few Algerians migrated to Palestine in the 19th century. They fled Algeria because of the colonization and most of them went to Northern Palestine especially Gallilee and Damascus, Syria.

Really? Hmm, didn't know that. Could be. I mean, the fact that I score more than 17% Mozabite speaks for itself. It could also brought by Egyptian settlers from Egypt during the reign of Muhammed Ali Pasha since Egyptian Muslims score more than 20% Mozabite on average.

[Kamal900]

nMonte3, pen=0.001

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Lebanese_Muslim Lebanese_Druze Druze Palestinian
2.264557 2.739260 3.149982 3.339445
Syrian_Jew Lebanese_Christian Iraqi_Jew Libyan_Jew
3.356333 3.520259 4.056145 4.203270

[1] "distance%=1.3902"

Moody_scaled

Lebanese_Muslim,9.4
Lebanese_Druze,8.8
Syrian_Jew,4.8
Palestinian,4.6
Druze,3.6
Iraqi_Jew,3.4
Levant_BA_North,3.4
Libyan_Jew,2.8
Lebanese_Christian,2.6
Samaritan,2.4
Assyrian,2.2
England_Roman_o,2
BedouinA,1.8
Iranian_Jew,1.8
Seh_Gabi_ChL,1.8
Romaniote_Jew,1.6
Georgian_Jew,1.4
Hajji_Firuz_ChL,1.4
Levant_BA_South,1.4
Moroccan_Jew,1.2
Tunisian_Jew,1.2
Anatolia_EBA,1
Egyptian,1
Jordanian,1
Levant_ChL,1
Levant_N,1
Libyan,1
Yemenite_Al_Jawf,1
Yemenite_Jew,1
Azeri,0.8
Georgian_Laz,0.8
Saudi,0.8
Turkish_Adana,0.8
Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.8
Yemenite_Amran,0.8
Yemenite_Mahra,0.8
Anatolia_ChL,0.6
Armenian,0.6
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,0.6
Cypriot,0.6
Greek_Trabzon,0.6
Iranian_Mazandarani,0.6
Tunisian,0.6
Turkish_Trabzon,0.6
Wezmeh_Cave_N,0.6
Algerian,0.4
Armenia_EBA,0.4
BedouinB,0.4
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.4
Greek_Crete,0.4
Iranian_Lor,0.4
Iranian_Persian,0.4
Italian_Jew,0.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,0.4
Kumyk,0.4
Kurdish,0.4
Moroccan,0.4
Natufian,0.4
Parkhai_MBA,0.4
Tanzania_Luxmanda_3000BP,0.4
Turkish_Kayseri,0.4
Adygei,0.2
Anatolia_IA,0.2
Anatolia_MLBA,0.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.2
Azeri_Dagestan,0.2
Balkar,0.2
Balochi,0.2
Beaker_Hungary_o,0.2
Beaker_Northern_Italy_no_steppe,0.2
Bustan_BA,0.2
Butkara_IA,0.2
CHG,0.2
Datog,0.2
Dzharkutan2_BA,0.2
English_Cornwall,0.2
Ethiopia_4500BP,0.2
Ethiopian_Oromo,0.2
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Gonur1_BA,0.2
Gupta,0.2
Hazara_Afghanistan,0.2
Iberomaurusian,0.2
Iran_recent,0.2
Iranian_Bandari,0.2
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.2
Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
Italian_South,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
Kshatriya,0.2
Makrani,0.2
Malawi_Hora_Holocene,0.2
Maltese,0.2
Minoan_Lasithi,0.2
Mozabite,0.2
Namazga_Eneolithic,0.2
North_Ossetian,0.2
Parkhai_Eneolithic,0.2
Parkhai_LBA,0.2
Parkhai_LBA_o,0.2
Pashtun,0.2
Peloponnese_N_o,0.2
Sephardic_Jew,0.2
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.2
Somali,0.2
South_Africa_2000BP,0.2
Spanish_Aragon,0.2
Spanish_Canarias,0.2
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.2
Spanish_Cataluna,0.2
Spanish_Extremadura,0.2
Spanish_Murcia,0.2
Tepe_Anau_Eneolithic,0.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,0.2
Yemenite_Dhamar,0.2
Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.2

individual references, pen=0.001

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt')

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121 Lebanese_Druze:1247
2.614749 2.741848
Lebanese_Druze:799 Druze:GS000016135
2.751388 2.754127
Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewSY06 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127
2.933266 2.940027
Lebanese_Druze:1271 Lebanese_Druze:1056
3.038163 3.039707



[1] "distance%=1.2251"

Moody_scaled

Lebanese_Druze,22.8
Druze,9
Lebanese_Muslim,9
Palestinian,7.4
Syrian_Jew,6
Iraqi_Jew,3
Lebanese_Christian,3
Libyan_Jew,2
Assyrian,1.8
BedouinB,1.6
Iranian_Zoroastrian,1.4
Romaniote_Jew,1.4
Samaritan,1.4
Yemenite_Mahra,1.4
Greek_Trabzon,1.2
Iranian_Persian,1.2
Levant_BA_North,1.2
Armenian,1
BedouinA,1
Hajji_Firuz_ChL,0.8
Levant_ChL,0.8
Tunisian_Jew,0.8
Azeri_Iran,0.6
Cypriot,0.6
Egyptian,0.6
Libyan,0.6
Moroccan_Jew,0.6
Mozabite,0.6
Sappali_Tepe_BA,0.6
Tunisian,0.6
Turkish_Trabzon,0.6
Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.6
Adygei,0.4
Anatolia_BA,0.4
Azeri,0.4
Chechen,0.4
Georgian_Laz,0.4
Iranian_Jew,0.4
Iranian_Lor,0.4
Iranian_Mazandarani,0.4
Italian_Jew,0.4
Kabardin,0.4
Makrani,0.4
Moroccan,0.4
Saudi,0.4
Sephardic_Jew,0.4
Tarkalani,0.4
Turkish_Kayseri,0.4
Yemenite_Amran,0.4
Yemenite_Dhamar,0.4
Yemenite_Jew,0.4
Abkhasian,0.2
Algerian,0.2
Anatolia_MLBA,0.2
Armenia_EBA,0.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,0.2
Balochi,0.2
Bantu_S.W.,0.2
Brahui,0.2
Datog,0.2
Dzharkutan1_BA,0.2
Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith,0.2
Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator,0.2
Georgian_Jew,0.2
Globular_Amphora,0.2
Hadza,0.2
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,0.2
Iberia_MN,0.2
Iranian_Bandari,0.2
Iranian_Fars,0.2
Irish,0.2
Jordanian,0.2
Kalash,0.2
Kohistani,0.2
Kumyk,0.2
Kurdish,0.2
Levant_BA_South,0.2
Masai,0.2
Natufian,0.2
Portuguese,0.2
Roma,0.2
Saharawi,0.2
San,0.2
Spanish_Murcia,0.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,0.2
Turkish_Adana,0.2
Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.2

result with pen=0

getMonte('Global_25_PCA_pop_averages_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)

[1] "distance%=0.807"

Moody_scaled

England_Roman_o,23.8
Georgian_Jew,14.8
Yemenite_Jew,7
Anatolia_ChL,6.4
Parkhai_MBA,6.4
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,5
Germany_Medieval_o,4.8
Moroccan_Jew,4.8
Levant_BA_North,4.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o2,3.4
Iraqi_Jew,3.2
Jordanian,2.2
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,1.8
Iberomaurusian,1.6
Levant_N,1.4
Seh_Gabi_LN,1.4
Shetlandic,1.4
Saharawi,1.2
Barikot_IA,1
Arkotkila_IA,0.6
Algerian,0.4
Armenia_EBA,0.4
Biaka,0.4
CHG,0.4
Mbuti,0.4
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD,0.2
Papuan,0.2
Sappali_Tepe_BA,0.2
She,0.2
Tujia,0.2


getMonte('Global_25_PCA_scaled.txt', 'target.txt', pen=0)
[1] "distance%=0.336"

Moody_scaled

Levant_BA_North,11.4
Iraqi_Jew,9
Georgian_Imer,7
Armenian,6.6
Yemenite_Jew,6.6
Egyptian,4.6
Iranian_Mazandarani,4.4
Levant_ChL,4.2
Abkhasian,3.2
Palestinian,3.2
Iranian_Jew,2.8
Yemenite_Amran,2.8
Tepe_Hissar_ChL,2.6
Beaker_Sicily_no_steppe,2.4
Gonur1_BA,2
Yemenite_Mahra,2
Belgian,1.8
Iberomaurusian,1.8
Iberia_Central_CA,1.6
Chechen,1.4
Saharawi,1.4
Irish,1.2
Libyan_Jew,1.2
Sappali_Tepe_BA,1.2
Balkans_N,1
Peloponnese_N,1
Algerian,0.8
Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
Levant_N,0.6
Mbuti,0.6
Minoan_Lasithi,0.6
Moroccan,0.6
Moroccan_Jew,0.6
Seh_Gabi_ChL,0.6
Tujia,0.6
Assyrian,0.4
Georgian_Jew,0.4
Germany_Medieval_o,0.4
Greek_Crete,0.4
Gujarati,0.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.4
Lebanese_Druze,0.4
Mentese_N,0.4
Mozabite,0.4
Anatolia_ChL,0.2
BedouinB,0.2
Brahmin_Gujarat,0.2
Cimmerian_Moldova,0.2
Dutch,0.2
England_Roman_o,0.2
Ethiopian_Jew,0.2
Krepost_N,0.2
LBK_N_Austria,0.2
Lebanese_Christian,0.2
Turkish_Istanbul,0.2
Turkish_Trabzon,0.2

Ancient

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790733 LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790732
4.789017 4.833605
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790730 LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790731
5.111293 5.588090
ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2210 ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2212
6.206077 6.236825
LEVANT:Levant_BA_North_ERS1790729 ANATOLIA_EBA:Anatolia_EBA_MA2213
6.259783 6.400707

[1] "distance%=2.1893"

Moody_scaled

LEVANT,72.6
BACTRIA-MARGIANA,12.8
BEAKERS-CENTRAL-EUROPEAN,5.2
ARMENIA-EBA,2.2
ANATOLIA_EBA,2
CENTRAL-ASIA,1
NO-STEPPE-CENTRAL-EUROPEANS,1
BEAKERS-HUNGARY,0.6
BRITAIN-CA-EBA,0.6
BEAKERS-BRITAIN,0.4
BEAKERS-IBERIA-ITALY,0.4
HUNS,0.4
IBEROMAURUSIAN,0.4
PRE-STEPPE-IBERIA,0.2
URAL-SIBERIA,0.2


Michal K50 calculator

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Levant European_Jewish Armenian_Assyrian Azeri
2.487677 4.798964 5.615392 7.461601
Sicilian_Maltese Northeast_African Iranian West_Turkish
7.609801 7.931001 8.876619 9.404682

[1] "distance%=1.4792"

Moody_scaled

Levant,52.4
Northeast_African,9.2
Armenian_Assyrian,8.4
European_Jewish,8.2
Yemenite_Arab,5.6
Abkhasian_Georgian,5
Iranian,3.4
Azeri,2.6
Northwest_African,2
Amharic,0.8
Iberian,0.4
Pashtun,0.4
Circassian,0.2
Dardic,0.2
Malawi_San,0.2
Pallar_Maratha,0.2
Somali_Oromo,0.2
South_Indian,0.2
Tajik,0.2
West_Turkish,0.2


Thank you so very much!

[MsSPF]

Really? Hmm, didn't know that. Could be. I mean, the fact that I score more than 17% Mozabite speaks for itself. It could also brought by Egyptian settlers from Egypt during the reign of Muhammed Ali Pasha since Egyptian Muslims score more than 20% Mozabite on average.

Yup, most of them were Kabyles by the way from Tizi Ouzou or Bejaia. I have a Syrian friend who has himself a Syrian friend with an Algerian ancestor. A former Syrian politician also has Algerian backgrounds.

A Palestinian diplomat, Majed Bamya, claimed also to have Algerian backgrounds from that period.


This allowed for the rural population to increase the amount of land they influencedand expand into it. After 1948, with the creation of the State of Israel and the concurrent upheavals of war and population movements, these processes continued inparts of the country, including in the West Bank and the Negev. To a lesser degree,they continued in Galilee and throughout the State of Israel, leading to the growth ofvillages such as Hamama and Kammana in the Galilee and Ein Rafa near Jerusalem.
This research shows that a significant number of Muslim residents of the areasthat became Israel in 1948 were living in newly established settlements. Some of theseMuslims were Egyptian and Algerian immigrants who came to Palestine in the firsthalf of the nineteenth century from foreign lands. There were also Algerians, Bos-nians, and Circassians, who came in the second half of the nineteenth century, butmost were from within the borders of Palestine.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264379810_The_Muslim_Settlement_of_Late_Ottoman_an d_Mandatory_Palestine_Comparison_with_Jewish_Settl ement_Patterns

[Kamal900]

Yup, most of them were Kabyles by the way from Tizi Ouzou or Bejaia. I have a Syrian friend who has himself a Syrian friend with an Algerian ancestor. A former Syrian politician also has Algerian backgrounds.

A Palestinian diplomat, Majed Bamya, claimed also to have Algerian backgrounds from that period.



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264379810_The_Muslim_Settlement_of_Late_Ottoman_an d_Mandatory_Palestine_Comparison_with_Jewish_Settl ement_Patterns

WOOW! So, I have Algerian ancestry? Noice! I love Algerians and other Berbers. Makes a lot of sense considering that Egyptian migrants are mostly concentrated up in Gaza and some in thr WB. I came from the Galilee. Khalas, 7abiby, I'm now a Berber, lol.

[Selurong]

WOOW! So, I have Algerian ancestry? Noice! I love Algerians and other Berbers. Makes a lot of sense considering that Egyptian migrants are mostly concentrated up in Gaza and some in thr WB. I came from the Galilee. Khalas, 7abiby, I'm now a Berber, lol.Lol that's a surprise.

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[MsSPF]

WOOW! So, I have Algerian ancestry? Noice! I love Algerians and other Berbers. Makes a lot of sense considering that Egyptian migrants are mostly concentrated up in Gaza and some in thr WB. I came from the Galilee. Khalas, 7abiby, I'm now a Berber, lol.

Azul fellawen! :P time to learn tamazight haha
I don't know if you really have Algerian backgrounds but this is an hypothesis to explore, yes! You should check your genealogy. I think Algerians were having surnames like "el Jazairi" (ofc lol) and probably others... It could be Egyptian also, it would make sense too but I don't know if Egyptians really score Mozabite ancestries ?

[Kamal900]

Azul fellawen! :P time to learn tamazight haha
I don't know if you really have Algerian backgrounds but this is an hypothesis to explore, yes! You should check your genealogy. I think Algerians were having surnames like "el Jazairi" (ofc lol) and probably others... It could be Egyptian also, it would make sense too but I don't know if Egyptians really score Mozabite ancestries ?

Egyptians score 20% Mozabite on average, but at the same time, it could be Algerian as you said. Very interesting find. Again, I came from the very north of the country, so it makes sense for me to score this high Berber ancestry.

[Kamal900]

Lol that's a surprise.

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Indeed, brother.

[MsSPF]

Egyptians score 20% Mozabite on average, but at the same time, it could be Algerian as you said. Very interesting find. Again, I came from the very north of the country, so it makes sense for me to score this high Berber ancestry.

If you are from extreme northern part, it could totally be Algerian, indeed as most Algerians settled in Northern Palestine. Another investigation to lead :P

[Kamal900]

If you are from extreme northern part, it could totally be Algerian, indeed as most Algerians settled in Northern Palestine. Another investigation to lead :P

I asked my mom, and she told me something really interesting. We don't have Egyptians living in the North, but at the same time, she told me that my great grandmother knew a Moroccan and Algerian Berbers living in our village of Az-Zeeb. I asked my dad, and he told me that we have had plenty of Algerians in the Galilee. Wow. That's really cool. It's seems that my ancestors had mixed with either Moroccans or Algerians. This is fucking sweet.

[MsSPF]

I asked my mom, and she told me something really interesting. We don't have Egyptians living in the North, but at the same time, she told me that my great grandmother knew a Moroccan and Algerian Berbers living in our village of Az-Zeeb. I asked my dad, and he told me that we have had plenty of Algerians in the Galilee. Wow. That's really cool. It's seems that my ancestors had mixed with either Moroccans or Algerians. This is fucking sweet.

Mabrook, you see, I'm not lying :P you probably have distant Algerian ancestors that you were aware of ! I knew about Moroccans too but they were really a minority compared to Algerians. I can tell you that most of these Algerians were Kabyles too. That's really cool!

Also I just found the name of the Syrian vice president with Algerian backgrounds, it's Farouk al Sharaa.

https://img.lemde.fr/2007/03/02/2/0/1648/1099/688/0/60/0/ill_878076_gamma_791820_10.jpg

Looks 100% Algerian.

[Kamal900]

Mabrook, you see, I'm not lying :P you probably have distant Algerian ancestors that you were aware of ! I knew about Moroccans too but they were really a minority compared to Algerians. I can tell you that most of these Algerians were Kabyles too. That's really cool!

Also I just found the name of the Syrian vice president with Algerian backgrounds, it's Farouk al Sharaa.

https://img.lemde.fr/2007/03/02/2/0/1648/1099/688/0/60/0/ill_878076_gamma_791820_10.jpg

Looks 100% Algerian.

What a time to be alive, lol. I know a Palestinian also who scored 19.3% Mozabite as well, and he's also from the Galilee. Indeed. I just didn't know that we had Berbers in the Levant. It's awesome to say the least.

[Kamal900]

My results by Token:

[1] "distance%=2.3369"
Moody_scaled

EEF,32.4
Natufian,26.6
Iran_N,22.2
CHG,12.4
Yamnaya,5.6
SSA,0.8

Looks weird. I score high Iran_N and EEF.

[Selurong]

Indeed, brother.Do you also have Muladi ancestry? Many Spanish Muslims of Al Andalus settled in North Africa after the Reconquista.

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[Kamal900]

Do you also have Muladi ancestry? Many Spanish Muslims of Al Andalus settled in North Africa after the Reconquista.

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I don't think so, nope. I have Southern European ancestry though. Fro Greece.

[Tauromachos]

I don't think so, nope. I have Southern European ancestry though. Fro Greece.


lol even 5,6 Yamnaya

[Selurong]

I don't think so, nope. I have Southern European ancestry though. Fro Greece.I was hoping we could be "primos" via a Hispanic connection. Lels.

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[Kamal900]

lol even 5,6 Yamnaya

I'm part steppenigger, lol.

[Kamal900]

I was hoping we could be "primos" via a Hispanic connection. Lels.

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If you have had Berber ancestry we could have been blood kin, lol.

[Gründig]

Not scaled doesn't seem to be remotly accurate. The distance was over 12% which is really bad. I used scaled for me results.

Scaled is recommended.

[Kamal900]

Scaled is recommended.

Yup. It's much more accurate. Non-scaled is a load of crap.

[Sp_loa]

Mostly levantine with some Greek (we already knew it), some Arabian (makes sense) and Berber (surprisingly).
I think you also have distant Assyrian ancestry- maybe from Samaritans with Assyrian shift ancestry (Samaritans mixed a bit with Assyrians that came to the levant after the destruction of the kingdom of Israel in 722 BCE).

Great results.

[happycow]

Cool results!

How do I go about doing this? I am a curious what mine would look like as my gedmatch results left me with a lot of questions....

[Dick]

Iron Age calc



"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
SWAsian:ERS1790732 SWAsian:ERS1790733 SWAsian:ERS1790731 SWAsian:ERS1790730
2.022276 2.294973 2.485578 2.665014
Caucasian:MA2198 SWAsian:ERS1790729 Caucasian:F38 SWAsian:I1730
3.093558 3.349627 3.678383 3.778346

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"

[1] "distance%=0.4368"

Moody

SWAsian,61.2
Caucasian,16.6
IndoAryan,8.6
Turkic,3.2
NAfrican,3
WMed,2.6
EMed,2.2
SAtlantic,1.4
EAfrican,1.2

[Kamal900]

Cool results!

How do I go about doing this? I am a curious what mine would look like as my gedmatch results left me with a lot of questions....

You need to pay 12 US dollars to eurogenesblog@gmail.com via paypal and send your autosomal raw data via hotmail or any email. He'll give the results within a day or two. So..what do you think of my results? I mean, do you find it weird that I score more Mozabite than the average Palestinian which is 5%?

[Kamal900]

Turkic,3.2

https://media.tenor.com/images/0d0b0b7cf120ba394bfcf732d4fa4e65/tenor.gif

[Kelmendasi]

My results by Token:

[1] "distance%=2.3369"
Moody_scaled

EEF,32.4
Natufian,26.6
Iran_N,22.2
CHG,12.4
Yamnaya,5.6
SSA,0.8

Looks weird. I score high Iran_N and EEF.
The west Eurasian datasheet in my opinion is one of the best in terms of determining ancient admixture in west Eurasians.

Palestinian average:
Natufian - 32
EEF - 27.73
IranNeo - 18.48
CHG - 9.26
Yamnaya - 5.55
SSA - 4.4
HG - 1.5
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_jr6EMoG_1eFm1x8hltNHW2bE5A0lW9N7XDjCU_jO_k/edit#gid=0

So overall you score higher EEF and IranNeo than the average, you also have a lot less SSA admix and slightly higher CHG

[happycow]

You need to pay 12 US dollars to eurogenesblog@gmail.com via paypal and send your autosomal raw data via hotmail or any email. He'll give the results within a day or two. So..what do you think of my results? I mean, do you find it weird that I score more Mozabite than the average Palestinian which is 5%?

Ok I will do that. I find it very interesting for sure. I'm curious how much Mozabite I will get as I get Moroccan, Tunisian, Algerian Libyan in my gedmatch oracles. It will be interesting to compare our results for sure.

[Kamal900]

The west Eurasian datasheet in my opinion is one of the best in terms of determining ancient admixture in west Eurasians.

Palestinian average:
Natufian - 32
EEF - 27.73
IranNeo - 18.48
CHG - 9.26
Yamnaya - 5.55
SSA - 4.4
HG - 1.5
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_jr6EMoG_1eFm1x8hltNHW2bE5A0lW9N7XDjCU_jO_k/edit#gid=0

So overall you score higher EEF and IranNeo than the average, you also have a lot less SSA admix and slightly higher CHG

Very accurate..um, what is EEF btw, and is the genetic component relates to neolithic farmers or something?

[Kelmendasi]

Very accurate..um, what is EEF btw, and is the genetic component relates to neolithic farmers or something?
It stands for Early European Farmers, basically it is a mix of early farmers from the near east and WHG peoples from Europe. Your results don't seem too off from the average Palestinian, apart from reduced SSA and increased EEF, IranNeo, and CHG. You also have Euro ancestry.

[Kamal900]

It stands for Early European Farmers, basically it is a mix of early farmers from the near east and WHG peoples from Europe.

Do you know why I get higher EEF, Iran_N and Caucasus than the average Palestinian? It seems a bit mysterious to me.

[Ayetooey]

Iron Age calc



"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
SWAsian:ERS1790732 SWAsian:ERS1790733 SWAsian:ERS1790731 SWAsian:ERS1790730
2.022276 2.294973 2.485578 2.665014
Caucasian:MA2198 SWAsian:ERS1790729 Caucasian:F38 SWAsian:I1730
3.093558 3.349627 3.678383 3.778346

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"

[1] "distance%=0.4368"

Moody

SWAsian,61.2
Caucasian,16.6
IndoAryan,8.6
Turkic,3.2
NAfrican,3
WMed,2.6
EMed,2.2
SAtlantic,1.4
EAfrican,1.2

Sorry to derail, mind doing this calc with my coordinates and pming it me or posting it on my thread! :thumb001:

[happycow]

@Toppo900 Sent money and data. Says I should have my coordinates in a day

[Kelmendasi]

Do you know why I get higher EEF, Iran_N and Caucasus than the average Palestinian? It seems a bit mysterious to me.
Well you do have European ancestry, this probably plays a large part in why you score reduced SSA and Natufian and increased EEF and Yamnaya. The CHG and IranNeo could be from west Asian groups that migrated into the Levant region from around eastern Anatolia and Mesopotamia, some time around the Calcolithic, they are what spread J1 into the Levant and Afro-Asiatic speakers. Though it could just be genetic variation and that you just have more CHG and IranNeo

[Kamal900]

@Toppo900 Sent money and data. Says I should have my coordinates in a day

Congrats bro. Can't wait to see your results soon. Post your coordinates once they come, okay?

[happycow]

Congrats bro. Can't wait to see your results soon. Post your coordinates once they come, okay?

Will do!

[Kamal900]

Well you do have European ancestry, this probably plays a large part in why you score reduced SSA and Natufian and increased EEF and Yamnaya. The CHG and IranNeo could be from west Asian groups that migrated into the Levant region from around eastern Anatolia and Mesopotamia, some time around the Calcolithic, they are what spread J1 into the Levant and Afro-Asiatic speakers. Though it could just be genetic variation and that you just have more CHG and IranNeo

Awesome, bro. Can you also run nMonite for me but with more references rather than just 4? I can't seem to run the program on my computer.

[Kamal900]

Mostly levantine with some Greek (we already knew it), some Arabian (makes sense) and Berber (surprisingly).
I think you also have distant Assyrian ancestry- maybe from Samaritans with Assyrian shift ancestry (Samaritans mixed a bit with Assyrians that came to the levant after the destruction of the kingdom of Israel in 722 BCE).

Great results.

Thanks bro.

[Kamal900]

Here's my genetic ancestry:
https://i.ibb.co/tp6Fkhh/Capture.png

[Kelmendasi]

Awesome, bro. Can you also run nMonite for me but with more references rather than just 4? I can't seem to run the program on my computer.
Unfortunately I don't know how to run nMonte on the R program. Somebody really needs to make a video tutorial on that lol

[Kamal900]

Unfortunately I don't know how to run nMonte on the R program. Somebody really needs to make a video tutorial on that lol

I managed to run it..do you think it's accurate?
https://i.ibb.co/tp6Fkhh/Capture.png

[Kelmendasi]

I managed to run it..do you think it's accurate?
[img]https://i.ibb.co/tp6Fkhh/Capture.png[/ig]
Oh I thought you were talking about the nMonte on the R program. I think it is alright, the fit is pretty low so that's good

[happycow]

I got the coordinates but have no clue how to run the program lol

[Kamal900]

I got the coordinates but have no clue how to run the program lol

Create the thread and copy the coordinates there, bro. I'll run them for you. You can PM the coordinates and I'll create the thread of your results.

[happycow]

Create the thread and copy the coordinates there, bro. I'll run them for you. You can PM the coordinates and I'll create the thread of your results.

Thanks I sent you a PM :)

[Kamal900]

Anyone else would like to contribute?

[Kamal900]

bump

[lonewolfcypriot]

What is it exactly? A PCA or something?

[Kamal900]

What is it exactly? A PCA or something?

It is. It helps in defining your ancestries.

[lonewolfcypriot]

Lets see it then

[Gangrel]

The fuck is this

[Kamal900]

The fuck is this

Here's my ancestry:
https://i.ibb.co/dKn00fb/scaled-0.png

I do have high Arabian and Berber ancestries. My base ancestry is Levantine though.

[lonewolfcypriot]

aren't you going to open the map?

[Lemgrant]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272521-0-1000-BCE-(Iron-Age)-G25-Fun-Calculator

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
LEVANTINE NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN GREEK
6.454854 7.964302 9.590842
ANATOLIAN ALANIC MACEDONIAN
10.307526 11.270743 11.298194
ILLYRIAN PONTIC
13.837350 14.787573

[1] "distance%=1.8897"

Moody_scaled

LEVANTINE,49
NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN,27
GREEK,7.4
ANATOLIAN,5
ALANIC,3.4
MACEDONIAN,3.2
IBEROMAURUSIAN,1.4
DRAVIDIAN,0.6
CIMMERIAN,0.4
EASTERN-IRANIAN,0.4
IBERIAN,0.4
ILLYRIAN,0.4
SOUTHEAST-AFRICA,0.4
CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN,0.2
PANNONIAN-PONTIC,0.2
SOUTH-AFRICA,0.2
STEPPE-NOMADS,0.2
SWAT-VALLEY,0.2

with pen=0:

[1] "distance%=1.6596"

Moody_scaled

LEVANTINE,48.6
NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN,23.4
GREEK,16.4
SWAT-VALLEY,5.8
ALANIC,3.6
IBEROMAURUSIAN,1
EAST-HUNNIC-MONGOLIAN,0.6
SOUTHEAST-AFRICA,0.6

[Kamal900]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272521-0-1000-BCE-(Iron-Age)-G25-Fun-Calculator

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
LEVANTINE NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN GREEK
6.454854 7.964302 9.590842
ANATOLIAN ALANIC MACEDONIAN
10.307526 11.270743 11.298194
ILLYRIAN PONTIC
13.837350 14.787573

[1] "distance%=1.8897"

Moody_scaled

LEVANTINE,49
NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN,27
GREEK,7.4
ANATOLIAN,5
ALANIC,3.4
MACEDONIAN,3.2
IBEROMAURUSIAN,1.4
DRAVIDIAN,0.6
CIMMERIAN,0.4
EASTERN-IRANIAN,0.4
IBERIAN,0.4
ILLYRIAN,0.4
SOUTHEAST-AFRICA,0.4
CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN,0.2
PANNONIAN-PONTIC,0.2
SOUTH-AFRICA,0.2
STEPPE-NOMADS,0.2
SWAT-VALLEY,0.2

with pen=0:

[1] "distance%=1.6596"

Moody_scaled

LEVANTINE,48.6
NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN,23.4
GREEK,16.4
SWAT-VALLEY,5.8
ALANIC,3.6
IBEROMAURUSIAN,1
EAST-HUNNIC-MONGOLIAN,0.6
SOUTHEAST-AFRICA,0.6

Thanks brah!
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