View Full Version : Your Haplogroups Compared to your known Ancestry, Do they align or not?
Hello all, I apologize if there is already a thread about this, however I couldn't find one.
My Paternal Haplogroup is G-Z7953
My Maternal Haplogroup is K1b2b
My known ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German and The Netherlands with a bit of French.. My oldest known Paternal line ancestor is Edmund Moodye from England. This particular line is known to have haplogroup G. This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.
To me it seems as my ancestry doesn't actually line up with my haplogroups because most people I've seen of Northern and Northwestern European descent have haplogroups R or I..
Any ideas? Has this occurred with anyone else?
JM
Your subclade is from bell beaker celts nothing odd
Ayetooey
12-22-2018, 03:46 PM
I2a1b=I2yrian/Proto European=Yup
J2b1= Neolithic western farmers=Yup
0% Ayran? Priceless.
Your subclade is from bell beaker celts nothing odd
Ok, Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty new to this stuff and am only trying to learn. I am not really sure how to differentiate from the G itself apparently being of Anatolian or Caucasus designation and the subclade. I guess I need to think of the G in terms of ancient migration and the subclade in terms of a more recent mutation formed in Europe?
Creoda
12-22-2018, 04:05 PM
This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.
Otzi the Ice-Hermaphrodite?
N-M2783 in Hungary, unusual.
H1e1a in Weastern Europe, normal.
I just sent off my sample to YSEQ this week, find out a more detailed Subclade for my N haplo.
Lol, maybe so.. I guess I should have specified, 23 and me says that Otzi also carried the same maternal haplogroup that I do.. not that it necessarily was passed down by him. Sorry.
Ok, Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty new to this stuff and am only trying to learn. I am not really sure how to differentiate from the G itself apparently being of Anatolian or Caucasus designation and the subclade. I guess I need to think of the G in terms of ancient migration and the subclade in terms of a more recent mutation formed in Europe?
Correct
Kamal900
12-22-2018, 04:12 PM
I2a1b=I2yrian/Proto European=Yup
J2b1= Neolithic western farmers=Yup
0% Ayran? Priceless.
Slavs are far more closer to the original Indo-Iranians genetically, yes.
happycow
12-23-2018, 07:53 PM
Cool I share my maternal and paternal line with Otzi as well. I was told my paternal haplogroup is quite rare in the Middle east. How it ended up there is a mystery but according to this link my paternal haplogroup was found in England, Italy and Sardinia.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hW2SxSLFSJS3r_MIdw9zxsS8NXo_4PG0_fFFeXGwEyc/htmlview
G2a2b2a1a1c1a1b2 - Z6032
England, Italy, Sardinian Italy
Cool I share my maternal and paternal line with Otzi as well. I was told my paternal haplogroup is quite rare in the Middle east. How it ended up there is a mystery but according to this link my paternal haplogroup was found in England, Italy and Sardinia.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hW2SxSLFSJS3r_MIdw9zxsS8NXo_4PG0_fFFeXGwEyc/htmlview
G2a2b2a1a1c1a1b2 - Z6032
England, Italy, Sardinian Italy
Apparently Otzi has descendants(or from some other men with the same subclade), probably more since this article is from 2013.
Living Relatives of Ötzi the Iceman Mummy Found in Austria.
Ötzi and his long-lost relatives fall into a rare European haplogroup and sub category (known as G-L91).
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/10/16/living-relatives-of-otzi-the-iceman-mummy-found-in-austria/#.XB__tPlKjcs
nittionia
12-23-2018, 08:41 PM
J2b2 ydna (my dad)
K2a5 mtdna
idk if they align but i like them
Kaspias
12-23-2018, 08:46 PM
Y-DNA: Q-L330
Known Paternal Ancestry: Balkan Turk
I wouldn't expect Q, i wouldn't expect Hunnic subclade of Q. Most of Balkan Turks get typical Balkan haplgroups such as I, E, R. But i have about ~10% Siberian although i'm just half Turk. Balkan Turk average is ~3. So it makes sense when we look my autosomal.
Y-DNA: Q-L330
Known Paternal Ancestry: Balkan Turk
I wouldn't expect Q, i wouldn't expect Hunnic subclade of Q. Most of Balkan Turks get typical Balkan haplgroups such as I, E, R. But i have about ~10% Siberian although i'm just half Turk. Balkan Turk average is ~3. So it makes sense when we look my autosomal.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/
Carpatz
12-23-2018, 08:56 PM
Known ancestry - Romanian
y-dna - R1a-CTS3402
mtdna - H5
nothing unusual I guess
jingorex
12-23-2018, 09:01 PM
Hello all, I apologize if there is already a thread about this, however I couldn't find one.
My Paternal Haplogroup is G-Z7953
My Maternal Haplogroup is K1b2b
My known ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German and The Netherlands with a bit of French.. My oldest known Paternal line ancestor is Edmund Moodye from England. This particular line is known to have haplogroup G. This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.
To me it seems as my ancestry doesn't actually line up with my haplogroups because most people I've seen of Northern and Northwestern European descent have haplogroups R or I..
Any ideas? Has this occurred with anyone else?
JM
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Welcome brother!!! :loveheart::loveheart::loveheart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MyUGq7pgs
Carpatz
12-23-2018, 09:02 PM
https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/
https://i.imgur.com/d3q59BW.png
a kurva anyatok
Qamari
12-23-2018, 09:05 PM
I think mine are coherent
Kaspias
12-23-2018, 09:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/d3q59BW.png
a kurva anyatok
şiba mayki
Bosniensis
12-23-2018, 09:20 PM
Hello all, I apologize if there is already a thread about this, however I couldn't find one.
My Paternal Haplogroup is G-Z7953
My Maternal Haplogroup is K1b2b
My known ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German and The Netherlands with a bit of French.. My oldest known Paternal line ancestor is Edmund Moodye from England. This particular line is known to have haplogroup G. This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.
To me it seems as my ancestry doesn't actually line up with my haplogroups because most people I've seen of Northern and Northwestern European descent have haplogroups R or I..
Any ideas? Has this occurred with anyone else?
JM
In Roman and Ottoman Empire anything goes xD
You name it... All Haplogroups are welcome.
fully confirmed ancestry: east english (which makes up 80%+), south scottish, orkney, east irish, ashkenazi jewish, south german, french huguenot
paternal haplogroup: R-U152
maternal haplogroup: U4c1
Both are uncommon but U4c1 is most common among uralic siberian peoples, kets and the kalash - which is puzzling to me. R-U152 is more common in switzerland, northern italy, southern france, those sorts of areas. I don't know an explanation for either.
Vyacheslav
12-08-2021, 03:34 PM
Hello all, I apologize if there is already a thread about this, however I couldn't find one.
My Paternal Haplogroup is G-Z7953
My Maternal Haplogroup is K1b2b
My known ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German and The Netherlands with a bit of French.. My oldest known Paternal line ancestor is Edmund Moodye from England. This particular line is known to have haplogroup G. This seems weird to me since both my Y line and Maternal haplogroup descend from Otzi the Iceman, according to 23andMe.
To me it seems as my ancestry doesn't actually line up with my haplogroups because most people I've seen of Northern and Northwestern European descent have haplogroups R or I..
Any ideas? Has this occurred with anyone else?
JM
Hello! We have the same mitogroup K1b2b https://www.yfull.com/mtree/K1b2b/
Our ancestors are not from Otzi, our ancestors are farmers from the Middle East, they came with the male haplogroup G, then they spread throughout Europe with the Celts
Our ancestors are from Northern Russia, we do not know how our mitogroup got to us
J1a - Common among Sephardic jews.
H2a2a1 - Not so common among Andalusians as far as I know.
Vyacheslav
12-08-2021, 04:01 PM
J1a - Common among Sephardic jews.
H2a2a1 - Not so common among Andalusians as far as I know.
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2a2a1/
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2a2a1/
It seems there are some spaniards there, although I also see a lot of danish too.
Tongio
12-08-2021, 04:11 PM
J1a - Common among Sephardic jews.
H2a2a1 - Not so common among Andalusians as far as I know.
Foi o jameslick que te mostrou esse resultado(mtdna)?Tú testou com o genera né?
Foi o jameslick que te mostrou esse resultado(mtdna)?Tú testou com o genera né?
Precisamente.
Tongio
12-08-2021, 04:32 PM
Precisamente.
É que eu obtive o mesmo resultado , apesar de meu mtdna ser H3c (sei graças a parentes que testaram com o FTDNA).Analisando meu resultado no jameslick vi que tinha nocalls já no H basal ,o que quer dizer que o genera só testou até o H .Dá uma olhada depois , acho que então H2a2 seria o resultado padronizado?
É que eu obtive o mesmo resultado , apesar de meu mtdna ser H3c (sei graças a parentes que testaram com o FTDNA).Analisando meu resultado no jameslick vi que tinha nocalls já no H basal ,o que quer dizer que o genera só testou até o H .Dá uma olhada depois , acho que então H2a2 seria o resultado padronizado?
No meu resultado disseram que havia calls extra que confirmam ser H2a2a1.
Tongio
12-08-2021, 04:40 PM
No meu resultado disseram que havia calls extra que confirmam ser H2a2a1.
Interessante ,então a se pá foi a Genera que cagou pra minha análise.
Interessante ,então a se pá foi a Genera que cagou pra minha análise.
O que outras análises com seu raw data dão? Digo, outros websites que analisam o mtDNA.
Tongio
12-08-2021, 04:58 PM
O que outras análises com seu raw data dão? Digo, outros websites que analisam o mtDNA.
Cara o geneanet me deu meu y dna direitinho J-L283
Assim como o yseq e morleysdna me deram o mesmo.Mas o geneanet nao conseguiu me informar meu mtdna e só colocou como"unknown".O que é bem estranho pois pelo menos o H deveria aparecer.Nao sei de mais nenhum outro site fora o geneanet e jameslick que informa o mtdna.
Cara o geneanet me deu meu y dna direitinho J-L283
Assim como o yseq e morleysdna me deram o mesmo.Mas o geneanet nao conseguiu me informar meu mtdna e só colocou como"unknown".O que é bem estranho pois pelo menos o H deveria aparecer.Nao sei de mais nenhum outro site fora o geneanet e jameslick que informa o mtdna.
Entendo, no meu caso a ferramenta do Morley atribuiu o J1a, assim como o MyTrueAncestry e outras ferramentas que usei.
Gallop
12-08-2021, 05:43 PM
I am one hundred percent Spanish, specifically Andalusian (ambos padres, abuelos, bisabuelos, tatarabuelos y trastarabuelos) Do not get your hopes up, the two Spanish flags are my father and me., but my Y dna lineage seems not to be local, in Spain it represents 0.9%, so it is possible that in my case it was brought to Spain by another European country, which one? I don't know, we will see.
In the case of the mitochondrial lineage, it does appear to be a subclade with a foundation in Spain.
DNA YE-FT155550
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
DNA mt J1c5c1a
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/J1c5c1/
Cybele
12-08-2021, 05:59 PM
I didn't take a full sequence test but as far as I could find, I have T1a1b1 mtDNA. According to a recent study it was found in some ancient samples from Xinjiang (China). I assume it must have been carried in my geographical area by Indo-European invasions or some other later invasions, idk.
Vyacheslav
12-08-2021, 08:51 PM
The mitogroup was passed on to us from relatives by the name Okulovski, the surname has been known in our area since the 17th century, is there a suspicion that it is not Polish? In this case, through the Poles or Czechs, it could be transmitted from the Celtic tribe of Boyev
https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Okulowski?fbclid=IwAR3alFELoNNVwQzjjBBz9Y_92mdDdvz 3FfYG_cG8kkG6FrFoL1-LhAaLzWE
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