Venezuela & Syria: An American Intervention

[Sacrificed Ram]

Currently we are watching the retirement of american troops from Syria, showing americans has none interest to use direct force to free syrian people from Assad's dictatorship. Transporting this scenario to South America, would be plausible a direct american military intervention in Venezuela to free venezuelan people of Maduro's dictatorship, if they didn't do it in Syria? Russia is installing military bases in Venezuela, USA is reinforcing their presence in Colombia and will do progress with new USA aligned government in Brazil. Will USA use proxy war against Venezuela? Will americans act directly in Venezuela even with russian (even China) presence there? Venezuela isn't american problem?

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[Fantomas]

If Venezuelan people start the reovolution against regime, why not. But not under Trump presidency surely, this coward prefers to ceding ground

[Catarinense1998]

I really hate Maduro's dictatorship, but I would not like to see americans putting their hands on a south american country's destiny. If the venezuelans do want their Freedon, they will need tô fight for it. Long live Bolivar, San Martin, O Higgins.

[KMack]

Better if Venezuelan people revolts against Maduro themselves. The Army Generals there are probably corrupt and take money from Maduro.
I think a General in Chile led a coup against the Socialist President there around 1980 or so, and was successful. Any Coup led by other countries would be a joint effort like Brazil/Colombia/USA all communicating and planning. IMHO you need 2 things,
1) Replacement leadership in place
2) Intelligence agencies find the Billions that Chavez/Maduro stole and are hiding in come Caribbean bank accounts. If the banks don't
hand the money over maybe a couple of Bankers have some unfortunate accidents in which they die. Those guys stole a lot of money from
American and Euro companies that had operations in Venezuela also.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Maybe the scenario will be underground and black ops, but not a direct declared military invasion of Venezuela by foreign countries.

[KMack]

Maybe the scenario will be underground and black ops, but not a direct declared military invasion of Venezuela by foreign countries.

Yeah no foreign military on the soil that looks bad.

[Westbrook]

Now that we're withdrawing troops from all over, people act like they want us to freedomize other countries?

[Westbrook]

2 different Presidents have been elected after promising to withdraw from the middle east, and this one is finally doing it. God forbid our own leader actually does what we want rather than what goons in the Pentagon, energy companies, or people in foreign countries want. Taking a couple thousand troops out of Syria is not going to cause it to fall to the terrists, and it's never been our responsibility to overthrow Assad.
If Venezuelan people start the reovolution against regime, why not. But not under Trump presidency surely, this coward prefers to ceding ground

[Fantomas]

2 different Presidents have been elected after promising to withdraw from the middle east, and this one is finally doing it. God forbid our own leader actually does what we want rather than what goons in the Pentagon, energy companies, or people in foreign countries want. Taking a couple thousand troops out of Syria is not going to cause it to fall to the terrists, and it's never been our responsibility to overthrow Assad.
This leads to new war escalation, strengthening of anti-US forces, flow of refugees increasing, declining of US position as a global player etc. etc. That's exactly what Assad, ISIS, Putin, Iran, Taliban, Hezbollah and another friends of America wanted from Trump.

[Thorns]

This leads to new war escalation, strengthening of anti-US forces, flow of refugees increasing, declining of US position as a global player etc. etc. That's exactly what Assad, ISIS, Putin, Iran, Taliban, Hezbollah and another friends of America wanted from Trump.

I don't give two squirts of duck shit what they want or don't want from Trump.

[Westbrook]

It does? Did you hear that on CNN or BBC? Should we be running our country and military based on what Assad and ISIS don't want? Does that mean we should attack and invade everyone on that list? Should we just make it official and annex Afghanistan?

Do you even know the real reasons the occupation of Afghanistan is still going or why this mess in Syria was originally started? For almost 20 years now the entire world has screeched about the US acting like world police and our "illegal wars", now people are still screeching because we're trying to scale it back?

This leads to new war escalation, strengthening of anti-US forces, flow of refugees increasing, declining of US position as a global player etc. etc. That's exactly what Assad, ISIS, Putin, Iran, Taliban, Hezbollah and another friends of America wanted from Trump.

[Borealis]

I would love to see a full on invasion of a South American country it would be something new. Very interesting unlike being stuck in the desert for decades at a time.

[Fantomas]

I don't give two squirts of duck shit what they want or don't want from Trump.
Apoliticism of Americans is welcomed by "friends" as well


It does? Did you hear that on CNN or BBC? Should we be running our country and military based on what Assad and ISIS don't want? Does that mean we should attack and invade everyone on that list? Should we just make it official and annex Afghanistan?

Do you even know the real reasons the occupation of Afghanistan is still going or why this mess in Syria was originally started? For almost 20 years now the entire world has screeched about the US acting like world police and our "illegal wars", now people are still screeching because we're trying to scale it back?
Sorry, but that cross of the lonely world super power is very heavy and too heavy for pacifist Trump. Let's make USA isolationalist again, say good bye US as a global player and the role of super power, flower children in 1960's said the same

[Ruggery]

Better if Venezuelan people revolts against Maduro themselves. The Army Generals there are probably corrupt and take money from Maduro.
I think a General in Chile led a coup against the Socialist President there around 1980 or so, and was successful. Any Coup led by other countries would be a joint effort like Brazil/Colombia/USA all communicating and planning. IMHO you need 2 things,
1) Replacement leadership in place
2) Intelligence agencies find the Billions that Chavez/Maduro stole and are hiding in come Caribbean bank accounts. If the banks don't
hand the money over maybe a couple of Bankers have some unfortunate accidents in which they die. Those guys stole a lot of money from
American and Euro companies that had operations in Venezuela also.

If you get to confirm about the Russian military bases in Venezuela do you think Donald Trump would allow the Russians to have bases so close to your country?

[Ruggery]

Now that we're withdrawing troops from all over, people act like they want us to freedomize other countries?

That you are impressed, if the United States believes itself to be the police of the world.

[Thorns]

Apoliticism of Americans is welcomed by "friends" as well

Thanks you for participating.

[Westbrook]

Oh wow, I can't believe it took me so long to realize what this is, it's the FOX News junkie neocon war hawk position. Classic.
Apoliticism of Americans is welcomed by "friends" as well


Sorry, but that cross of the lonely world super power is very heavy and too heavy for pacifist Trump. Let's make USA isolationalist again, say good bye US as a global player and the role of super power, flower children in 1960's said the same

[KMack]

Apoliticism of Americans is welcomed by "friends" as well


Sorry, but that cross of the lonely world super power is very heavy and too heavy for pacifist Trump. Let's make USA isolationalist again, say good bye US as a global player and the role of super power, flower children in 1960's said the same

Withdrawing 2,000 Troops from Syria is hardly isolationist. LOL.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Withdrawing 2,000 Troops from Syria is hardly isolationist. LOL.

The question isn't the retirement of 2000 troops, but USA to leave syrian people under Assad's dictatorship, what excuse will americans use to intervene in Venezuela?

[KMack]

The question isn't the retirement of 2000 troops, but USA to leave syrian people under Assad's dictatorship, what excuse will americans use to intervene in Venezuela?

It is Assad's country and Iran/Russia to a lesser extent. Why would the USA want to get rid of him? Venezuela we discusses that yesterday, why did you bring it up again?

[Westbrook]

Venezuela will collapse on it's own without intervention, and we don't need their oil anymore. Nobody cares about Assad's dictatorship either. Only reason for trying to overthrow him by supporting rebellions and terrorists was to make it easier for the Gulf Arabs to run a natural gas pipeline through Syria to the Med. and Europe.
The question isn't the retirement of 2000 troops, but USA to leave syrian people under Assad's dictatorship, what excuse will americans use to intervene in Venezuela?

[Thorns]

The question isn't the retirement of 2000 troops, but USA to leave syrian people under Assad's dictatorship, what excuse will americans use to intervene in Venezuela?
To put an end to illegal butt injections.

[KMack]

If you get to confirm about the Russian military bases in Venezuela do you think Donald Trump would allow the Russians to have bases so close to your country?
Russia has been parking TU 160 bombers in Venezuela for years, and they send ships there also. Technically Venezuelan law does not allow for foreign military base on it's soil but they could do it on Orchila Island. Looks deserted. Would cost a lot of $$$ though. The USA has USNS Comfort parked right off of Venezuela treating sick Venezuelans.
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There is virtually no medical care in Venezuela, hospitals have no supplies.

[KMack]

To put an end to illegal butt injections.

LOL

[Ruggery]

Russia has been parking TU 160 bombers in Venezuela for years, and they send ships there also. Technically Venezuelan law does not allow for foreign military base on it's soil but they could do it on Orchila Island. Looks deserted. Would cost a lot of $$$ though. The USA has USNS Comfort parked right off of Venezuela treating sick Venezuelans.
https://d2pggiv3o55wnc.cloudfront.net/oann/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/AP18331813550376.jpg
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/militarynews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/de/0deba7f8-f702-11e8-b8b8-ff2c0846d483/5c053497dffa6.image.jpg

There is virtually no medical care in Venezuela, hospitals have no supplies.
That American ship passes near Venezuela very often?

Does the United States have a base near Venezuela?

[luc2112]

Worse, see the statements the Maduro that Brazil is coming together to USA, trying attack "terrorist" against his life.

[KMack]

That American ship passes near Venezuela very often?

Does the United States have a base near Venezuela?

Comfort overwhelmingly operates in that region. They attend to sick and injured from Hurricanes, Earthquakes, disasters, and wherever it can help.
Jamaica, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Venezuela etc., been to all of these places.

USA has multiple bases near Venezuela.

[Westbrook]

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Puerto Rico is only about 800km from Venezuela and US has access to bases all over Colombia
That American ship passes near Venezuela very often?

Does the United States have a base near Venezuela?

[Sacrificed Ram]

Russia has been parking TU 160 bombers in Venezuela for years, and they send ships there also. Technically Venezuelan law does not allow for foreign military base on it's soil but they could do it on Orchila Island. Looks deserted. Would cost a lot of $$$ though. The USA has USNS Comfort parked right off of Venezuela treating sick Venezuelans.
https://d2pggiv3o55wnc.cloudfront.net/oann/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/AP18331813550376.jpg
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/militarynews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/de/0deba7f8-f702-11e8-b8b8-ff2c0846d483/5c053497dffa6.image.jpg

There is virtually no medical care in Venezuela, hospitals have no supplies.

On my first post of this thread I said USA have strong presence in Colombia, they do a lot of actions together, including attacks against narco-guerrillas. This ship was anchored in Colombia, as there are a lot of venezuelans refugees in Colombia, they also received this aid too.

And Venezuela is a dictatorship, any moment they can change law in obscure manners.

[Ruggery]

http://atlas-caraibe.certic.unicaen.fr/en/image-101.jpg

Puerto Rico is only about 800km from Venezuela and US has access to bases all over Colombia


Comfort overwhelmingly operates in that region. They attend to sick and injured from Hurricanes, Earthquakes, disasters, and wherever it can help.
Jamaica, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Venezuela etc., been to all of these places.

USA has multiple bases near Venezuela.

Then, in the event that the United States wants to intervene militarily in Venezuela, would it send its troops through Colombia or the Caribbean Sea?

[Incal]

I'd love to see a US intervention in Venezuela and Maduro being shot in the head. But not yet, in a year or 2 so we can get some more Veneca hotties.

[KMack]

I'd love to see a US intervention in Venezuela and Maduro being shot in the head. But not yet, in a year or 2 so we can get some more Veneca hotties.

"Cancer"

[Odin]

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